Visa Subclass 189 Refused

lock_code2004 · August 2014

@lock_code2004 meaning po may garantiya na pasado na?

You've been invited based on your claims sa EOi..

After paying the visa application fee, it is then up to you to prove your claims by submitting your supporting docs, medical and character checks..

Only the Case Officer can decide on that..

Betchay · August 2014

@lock_code2004 Thanks a lot

ahmed · September 2014

@johnvangie tnx ..sobrang dami ng info nalilito na ko.. kalingang ko talaga basahin . do you know someone here na accounting un skills nya na i could ask about the process..tnx

netzkeenet · September 2014

@lurker2014 ano balita sayo?nag reply n cla?

islaman · September 2014

@lurker2014 Parehas ata kayo ng situation ni @retake. And visa granted na sya September 22!

http://pinoyau.info/discussion/comment/112435#Comment_112435

Kaya mo yan!

jeorems · September 2014

@sflor88 nagka idea nga ako ulet Na I check Yung ginawa ko nung eoi stage nung ni ask mo ko. Feeling ko sablay. Eto Yung sa ACS ko:
The ff employment after June 2011... Pero yung sa eoi ko na nilagay eh yung start ko na Na assess ni ACS Na June 2007.

Parang ito yung ni ask mo po ba?

So I clarify natin muna bago ang lahat. Ako wLa Na kasi nag bayad Na
Naku @lurker2014, mukhang may mali nga ata sa claim mo. Kung ang tinanggap lang ng ACS ay yung employment mo after june2011, meaning magstart ka pa lang ng count ng work experience after June 2011. At kung ang nilagay mo naman sa EOI mo ay 2007, malaking mali nga yun. Let's just pray na tanggapin ng CO yan.

God bless on your application.

IMHO sir, hindi ata mali ung pag claim ng points for the skills and employment.

Ung ACS is supposed to assessed ung skills mo which is merong requirement na certain years para maging positive.

Ung employment mo would be assess based on the employment certificate na sinubmit mo sa DIBP.

Almost same case kami ng friend ko, we both went for RPL which requires us na magkaroon ng 5 years (pag ICT related ung course) at 6 years (pg non-ICT related course, bale non-ICT ako so I need 6 years work exp which I have more than enough)

Nasa OZ na siya ngayon and I have already submitted most of the documents na kailangan and waiting for result and claiming (by God's grace) na ok ung result.

eto ung pdf kung pano ini-a-assess ng acs ang skills base on relevant working experience. I fall sa last category non-ict related. My gut feel is ACS would assess your skills base on the "Required Relevant Work Experience" and they would not assess ung lahat ng taon na working experience mo. Mukhang DIBP ung mag-assess ng work experience base on the certificate of employment na pinasa mo.

But I maybe wrong as well.

http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/7324/Summary-of-Criteria-2014.pdf

lurker2014 · October 2014

Hello guys,

Update ko pala, a month after ng letter ko na ni send thru DHL sa CO, naka receive po ako ng successful withdrawal ng application ko.

Laking tuwa ko pa na i refund nila yung payment ko. Inde na nga ako nag expect kasi kasalanan ko naman, pero i was happy na ni consider nila. Nung na receive ko ang mail eh nangagatog pa ko sa tuwa

As of today, may EOI invite ako ulit, at nag lodge na din. This time making sure na tama ang lahat na ni claim ko. Lesson learned talaga, pati na din sana sa lahat.

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Hi, may issue ka din ba?

Yung nakita ko lang is 'reply form'
https://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/forms/reply/index.htm

Apart from this, nag send ako letter to them, yung address ko ni use eh yung sa email confirmation ko nung nag lodge ako.

Eto yung sa IMMI acknowledgement ko, didto ako nag send ng mail:

GSM Adelaide
OFFICE: Level 4 55 Currie Street ADELAIDE SA 5000
POSTAL: GPO Box 1638 ADELAIDE SA 5001
PHONE: 131 881 WEBSITE: http://www.immi.gov.au
@lurker2014 nakapagsend kana email?pahinge ako email add ng immi if you have

Wala naman gsuto ko kng mg ff up sa application ko kasi wla pa akong balita 3mos na huhuhu... Update mo kami kng ano result ng sayu ah

lemonsweater · October 2014

kaka backread ko lang po. pacorrect nalang po kung mali pagkakaintindi ko. yung work experience na dapat mo ilagay sa EOI mo nakabase sa assessment ng ACS? akala ko po kasi e regardless sa assessment ng ACS satin. yung work experience idedeclare mo lahat ng nasa COE mo.

RyanJay · October 2014

kaka backread ko lang po. pacorrect nalang po kung mali pagkakaintindi ko. yung work experience na dapat mo ilagay sa EOI mo nakabase sa assessment ng ACS? akala ko po kasi e regardless sa assessment ng ACS satin. yung work experience idedeclare mo lahat ng nasa COE mo.

Yes, you must base the info na ilalagay mo sa EOI from the ACS assessment result. Stick to the date that says you're deemed working as skilled. That way wala kang worries na mali ang claim mo sa years of skilled work experience.

lemonsweater · October 2014

@ryanjay noted sir. thank you

catgon0208 · October 2014

may tanong din po ako about this. sabi sa ACS ko is relevant daw after May 2009. pero sa eoi ang nilagay ko start ng relevant exeprience is May 15 2009. kc ang completion ng 2yrs is May 14, 2009 (para dun sa 2 yrs na binabawas nila) Kahit na po May or june pa ang ilagay ko ganun pa rin ang points 60. siguro naman po eh hindi na issue to? nakakatakot magkamali eh ang mahal po.

thanks.

gernaez · October 2014

@catgon0208 ako po kasi sabi sa acs ko after august 2006 kaya nilagay kong start ng relevant work is sept. 1, 2006...

catgon0208 · October 2014

@gernaez ganun po ba? so pwede po ba pag lodge ko ng Visa ang gawin ko ng start date is June 01, 2009, un nga lang maiiba eto sa EOI na submitted pero ung points ganun pa rin naman 60 points. Ano po ba ang masu suggest ng mga master? Wag na muna ako mag lodge hanggang sa ma expire na ung invitation? or ibahin na lang ung start date

shye428 · November 2014

My explanation naman po qouting the duties and responsibilities stated in my COE and referring it as closely related to anzsco Accounts Clerk rather than Internal Auditor.

hi @cylin, ask ko lang... Accounts Clerk is not included in SOL but Accountant (General)
Did they mean SOL Accountant should be your nominated occupation for your experience in accounting section?

yeshmi · November 2014

Hi all,

newbie here and would like to seek your advise, we are planning to apply for subclass 189, question is: my husband (primary applicant) graduated ECE, working for more than 8 years as IT, do you think he will pass the skills assessment, considering Engineering ang tinapos niya then IT ang line of work? pero full 8 years yun na IT and in one company lang..
Thanks in advance for your inputs! GB

gerardds · November 2014

@yeshmi
in my opinion, ECE i think is still considered as ICT Major (depending on his school curriculum) since may mga subjects naman sya na pang IT right?

but i think may deduction na four years
from page 3 of
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf
"If your degree is assessed as having an ICT major which is NOT closely related to your
nominated occupation, you will require 4 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history to meet the suitability criteria."

I myself had a deduction of four years as my degree is Computer Engineering which is similar to ECE maybe you can try to research pa rin

wizardofOz · November 2014

@yeshmi yung Education is one factor lang ng Skills Assessment, I don't know kung paano mag-assess ang ACS (kung yun man ang assessing authority nyo) pero dapat mas malaking factor yung actual work experience...

Like sa case ko, I'm an ECE, pero mas aligned talaga yung naging work exp ko sa Production/Mfg Engineering kaya yun ang pina-assess ko sa EA rather than Electronics Engineer.

yeshmi · November 2014

I see. may chance pa pala! Maraming salamat @wizardofOz!

yeshmi · November 2014

Thank you sa input @gerardds. By the way may i know kung anong line of work mo?

gerardds · November 2014

@yeshmi analyst programmer

multitasking · November 2014

@yeshmi .. i agree.. may pag-asa naman.. ECE grad din ako..

lurker2014 · November 2014

Agree.

@yeshhmi ECE din po ako, and worked in an IT industry since then. ACS assessed me as ICT Major, then 4 years ang deduction

@yeshmi
in my opinion, ECE i think is still considered as ICT Major (depending on his school curriculum) since may mga subjects naman sya na pang IT right?

but i think may deduction na four years
from page 3 of
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf
"If your degree is assessed as having an ICT major which is NOT closely related to your
nominated occupation, you will require 4 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history to meet the suitability criteria."

I myself had a deduction of four years as my degree is Computer Engineering which is similar to ECE maybe you can try to research pa rin

imketket · February 2017

Hello, ask ko lang kung meron na po dito na-refuse ang visa lately? Pwede pa ba magrequest ng refund after ng decision ng CO? Thank you po sa sasagot.

jmban33 · February 2017

@imketket fee is non refundable

imketket · February 2017

@jmban33 thank you sa reply. Pwede ba na magsubmit ng application for subclass 190 kung refused sa 189? May time limit ba sa pag aapply? May overclaim kasi ako na 5 points, and na-refuse ang application ko. Nanghihinayang din ako na hindi ituloy yung AU plans namin, baka may iba pa akong options na less gastos...

Broken hearted ako ngayon dahil sa refused visa haaays

cliffhanger82 · February 2017

@imketket sayang naman yung application mo. I understand your feelings.

Saan ka ng overclaimed ng 5 points sa EOI, sa anong category? yan lang ba ground ng visa refusal mo? kasi kng may overclaimed ka na 5 points sa EOI dapat at first alam na nang CO mo yan.. Bat nag contact pa sya nang ilang beses pra humingi nang additional documents?

Paki share mo yung experience mo please so we can be aware..

imketket · February 2017

@cliffhanger82 overclaim ako ng 5 points dahil sa Australian Study requirement. Yung naging ground ng refusal ko kasi eh mas mababa yung points assessed by CO than the points indicated in the EOI. Bale 65 pts ako sa EOI, tapos naging 60 pts na lang dahil dyan.

Ang pinagtataka ko nga eh bakit ngayon lang ako ininform na ganun, after all ng requirements at documents na hiningi nila earlier. Two years ago na since I was first contacted by my first CO(nag iba iba yung allocated CO sa kin).

cliffhanger82 · February 2017

@imketket 2 years ago??? grabe ang tagal na pala nang visa application mo and then ngayon lang nila dineclare na may overclaimed points ka.

Anyway may tanong ako sa claim points, for example invited ako for 70 points (w/o overclaim point) and then during the process may na deduct na experience sakin due to missing supporting documents, let's say payslip or contract, tapos ng deduct sila nang 5 points. So ang score ko is 65 points na, so mas mababa sya sa claim 70 points during EOI. Ibig ba sabihin ma deny ung visa application ko? correct me if im wrong.

imketket · February 2017

@cliffhanger82 possibly yes.. eto yung qinoute ng CO regarding my application:

"Schedule 2 to the Regulations sets out, in part, the criteria to be met at time of decision forthe grant of a subclass 189 visa (among other visas).

Specifically clause 189.214 states:189.214(1) The applicant’s score, when assessed in relation to the visa under Subdivision B of Division 3 ofPart 2 of the Act, is not less than the score stated in the invitation to apply for the visa.(2) The applicant’s score, when assessed in relation to the visa under Subdivision B of Division 3 ofPart 2 of the Act, is not less than the qualifying score for that Subdivision.

Pero kung during assessment ni CO eh mas mataas ang naging points mo kesa sa score mo sa EOI, considered qualified yung application mo.

Nagtagal yung application ko kasi na-preggy ako. Hindi agad ako nakapag submit ng x-ray because of pregnancy.

cliffhanger82 · February 2017

@imketket Ganun ba yun. Akala ko kasi na ma approve pa rin ang visa application whether my points deduction as long as hindi bababa sa 60 points ang final score mo after the deductions.

Di ba pede ma appeal yung result, baka pede pa..