For Accountants - how long did it take you to get a job?

muffles127 · October 2014

@rencerencerence online ako ng submit then may checklist na binigay sila sakin. Sa pagkakaalala ko ang andun ay:
1. TOR
2. Identification (this kunin mo pag magpapaassess ka na kse may validity yung pag certify)
3. Syllabus
4. CPA Certificate and Exam results
so i guess pwede ka na magstart dun sa pagkuha ng syllabus and tor mo

pwede mo na din iprepare ying cpa certificate and exam result if applicable sayo

ang nagmamatter naman kse talaga diyan eh yung syllabus

rencerencerence · October 2014

@muffles127 salamaaaat!

rencerencerence · October 2014

@muffles127 di po aku cpa haha fresh grad pa lang po nung napunta dito haha cguro tor syllabus at identification lang mapakita ku, haha

muffles127 · October 2014

@rencerencerence hehe hindi din naman nagmamatter yata yun. So iprepare mo na syllabus mo kse dun din nila nachecheck foundation nung applicant so pag okay yun pwede mo na maskip yung foundation then cpa program ka na

rencerencerence · October 2014

sana pero d dn maxado nageexpect haha!

AussieMom · October 2014

Do you have to take the exam to be a CPA here? I have accounting degree but didn't get the chance to take CPA exams in the Phils before we moved here in Australia ages ago, but I'm working in accounting field. Thanks

vhoythoy · October 2014

Do you have to take the exam to be a CPA here? I have accounting degree but didn't get the chance to take CPA exams in the Phils before we moved here in Australia ages ago, but I'm working in accounting field. Thanks

Yes. But you need to submit documentations first to cpaa/icaa whether you will need to study first/take foundation exams or can directly proceed to professional exams.

rencerencerence · October 2014

@AussieMom same case with you, plano ko na magpaassess, bahala na si batman

SYD_CPA · October 2014

dre,

ako nag passess na sa CPAA. 160 Aud cost

Ang hirap makahanap ng work idol - pero keeping positive.

I got here just this oct 12

kaya yan!

AussieMom · October 2014

Thanks vhoythoy. How difficult are the exams for foundation and professional levels?

rence, ang medyo mahirap i-gather yung syllabus na required nila. I haven't contacted my previous school but I wonder if they have it.

SYD_CPA, good luck. How did you come up with the syllabus? Did you request them from your school or just statutory declaration?

Thanks all

vhoythoy · October 2014

Thanks vhoythoy. How difficult are the exams for foundation and professional levels?

rence, ang medyo mahirap i-gather yung syllabus na required nila. I haven't contacted my previous school but I wonder if they have it.

SYD_CPA, good luck. How did you come up with the syllabus? Did you request them from your school or just statutory declaration?

Thanks all

Kung CPA Aus target mo, usually mag start ka as professional level if CPA ka sa pinas and have relevant accounting experiences na (ideally cguro external audit). But depends pa rin yan sa result ng assessment ng CPAA. I've heard exams are not too difficult though i don't experience it personally. Second hand info lang, kasi i have lots of friends/ ex-colleagues who took/currently taking CPA exams here in SG/ and already CPA Australia. Basta focus and put some time to study kasi makapal ung books for each sections/subjects din. So depende how fast you learned. Difficulty naman mahirap i gauge depende sa bawat tao, but if you passed CPA sa pinas then you knew what it takes na.

Kung CA naman target mo, generally mag aral ka muna ng 2 required subjects Aus Corp Law/ Taxation (unless you're acctg grad in Australia) before you can proceed with the exams/ mentoring and capstone. But ofcourse you need to submit assessment din muna sa ICAA naman.

Syllabus mukhang di naman mahirap makuha kasi may records naman ung University nyan. I've got mine sa PUP sta mesa, batch 1998-2002 (so more than 12 years ago pa) buti naman naitago nila. Kapal nun, pina photocopy ko nalang. Reserved ko lang in the future kasi wala pa naman ako pag gamitan sa ngaun.

rencerencerence · October 2014

plano ko paassess, for sure pare baka foundation level lang ako kc 3 years ago lang ako graduate eh. pero working na ko dito kahit pano, boutique accounting firm, ung syllabus ba ayan din ung parang course outline ba? meron ako kaso not in good condition kc may mga sulat sulat na kc ung mga natapos ko ng subject minamarkahan ko eh haha

vhoythoy · October 2014

plano ko paassess, for sure pare baka foundation level lang ako kc 3 years ago lang ako graduate eh. pero working na ko dito kahit pano, boutique accounting firm, ung syllabus ba ayan din ung parang course outline ba? meron ako kaso not in good condition kc may mga sulat sulat na kc ung mga natapos ko ng subject minamarkahan ko eh haha

bawat subjects/ units around 2-3 pages indicating yung topics at descriptions. iba yung curicullum lang

rencerencerence · October 2014

ay ganun ba, cge pare salamat ask ko mga teacher ko ahaha

AussieMom · October 2014

Thanks vhoythoy for the info. I'm hoping that I could target CPA here. Kung makapal yung books in preparation for the exam yun ang worry ko sa sobrang busy ng schedule everyday. Anyway, will give it a try though sayang yung panahon and opportunities na rin.

vhoythoy · October 2014

Thanks vhoythoy for the info. I'm hoping that I could target CPA here. Kung makapal yung books in preparation for the exam yun ang worry ko sa sobrang busy ng schedule everyday. Anyway, will give it a try though sayang yung panahon and opportunities na rin.

Goodluck. Malaking bagay din kasi ma upgrade natin ung CPA qualifications natin sa pinas. It will open more doors in the future plus self fulfillment na din. I will upgrade din once i landed in Australia early next year.

catajell · October 2014

Hi po! Subject to our migration visa (189), I received a positive migration assessment from ICAA. Now na plan ko po magregister sa CA program, required pa pala ako magstudy ng 2 core subjects na corporation law and taxation. Do you think po mas ok na magpaassess din ako sa CPAA kasi baka dumiretso nako agad sa professional level? If we compare the costs po kasi:

ICAA:
AUD 2,000 (1,000 x 2 subjects- core)
AUD 1,047 (349 membership fee x 3 years)
AUD 6,125 (1,225 x 5 subjects - professional)
TOTAL AUD 9,172

CPAA
AUD 160 (one-time assessment fee)
AUD 930 (310 membership fee x 3 years)
AUD 6,540 (1090 x 6 subjects - professional)
TOTAL AUD 7,630

Mas mababa ang costs sa CPAA provided na di na ako massubject sa foundation exam. Ang kaso lang, kailangan ko na naman halungkatin ang aking mga syllabus para sa assessment.

As for employment po, now, wala pa po ako work pero ang nakikita kong possible na employment ko ay sa audit firms since dun ang experience ko. Pero in the long run, I want to work in private.

Any thoughts/advice po is highly appreciated. TIA

catajell · October 2014

Nung nagpaassess po ba kayo sa CPAA, anong syllabus ang hiningi? Lahat ng subjects sa TOR or yung corresponding lang sa foundation level?

vhoythoy · October 2014

Hi po! Subject to our migration visa (189), I received a positive migration assessment from ICAA. Now na plan ko po magregister sa CA program, required pa pala ako magstudy ng 2 core subjects na corporation law and taxation. Do you think po mas ok na magpaassess din ako sa CPAA kasi baka dumiretso nako agad sa professional level? If we compare the costs po kasi:

ICAA:
AUD 2,000 (1,000 x 2 subjects- core)
AUD 1,047 (349 membership fee x 3 years)
AUD 6,125 (1,225 x 5 subjects - professional)
TOTAL AUD 9,172

CPAA
AUD 160 (one-time assessment fee)
AUD 930 (310 membership fee x 3 years)
AUD 6,540 (1090 x 6 subjects - professional)
TOTAL AUD 7,630

Mas mababa ang costs sa CPAA provided na di na ako massubject sa foundation exam. Ang kaso lang, kailangan ko na naman halungkatin ang aking mga syllabus para sa assessment.

As for employment po, now, wala pa po ako work pero ang nakikita kong possible na employment ko ay sa audit firms since dun ang experience ko. Pero in the long run, I want to work in private.

Any thoughts/advice po is highly appreciated. TIA

Hi, it depends on your long term goals. Most likely kapag CPA Aus ang route mo professional level ka na. Most (if not all) of my excolleagues and junior staff in previous audit firm here in Singapore, and who worked previously in mid tier firm in Ph with around 3 years exp sa audit eh pumasa naman sa assessment ng CPAA and got the ASA (Associate membership), on which they are currently completing CPA exams na/ some already completed na.

Employers/ recruiters indicate naman CA/CPA sa mga jobsites so parang walang differences in terms of qualifications, besides its just a qualifications it is still you who can make difference in your career/ jobs and not your qualifications though it will open more doors/opportunities. Some of my friends/ex-colleagues proceed with CPA australia as it much easier route. Meaning, you can proceed with professional exams na agad. They have limited time kasi and doesn't need qualifications nman talaga to boost their career as they have years of experiences na din (public practice/commercial) and some were already managers. CPA Australia also have lots of members globally and good marketing/branding plus tie up with different organisations. While in CA, you need to study, took exams, the mentoring stage (i am not sure whether they will acknowledge my 9 years exp in audit firms as what CA/CPA canada did), there capstone thing. Pero both might take you 3-4 years din talaga to complete depends.

For me i will proceed with CA Australia route, but its my personal choice and self fulfillment na rin. I am not expecting too much impact sa career ko kahit makuha ko yung qualifications because its a different thing. I also sent my assessment (Oseas qualifications sa ICAA), and yes i need to take/study 2 subjects. Also, i emailed some Uni in Melbourne for the 2 subjects and the cheapest is Melbourne Ins of Technology which cost around 1850 aud per subject (to be completed in 1 trimester roughly 3 months). Some offer cloud/ online study like Deakin pero medyo mahal $3000+ per subject.

I like it mostly because of its alliance with GAA (including the AICPA - CPA US which only recognise CA Aus) and the Graduate Diploma degree. So if ever someday, just in case lang, sa US/Canada pala ang destiny ko eh madali magconvert dahil sa mutual agreement/ ties plus ma upgrade pa ng graduate diploma ung BS Accountancy ko sa PUP. Also, there is perceptions even in forums/ accountants sa Aussie na mas prestigious ang CA but ofcourse it is subjective. In additions, bihira lang ang pinoy na kilala kong CA, so parang gusto ko din yung iba din.

Bottom line, cost is my least concern as parehas lang naman silang mahal. Its for your future plans/ goals. You can work naman in commercial/ public practice whether you are CA or CPA.

Goodluck

catajell · October 2014

Wow! Thanks for the detailed reply @vhoythoy ! You are always a great help po..

You are right, cost is least of my concern talaga dapat. Siguro based sa sinabi nyo, as for me CPAA is ok per for my husband na plan ituloy ang corporate, mas ok ang CA. However, mas ok na sabay kami para mas makareview! Hehe.. We will still think this through and hopefully makaabot sa next sem.

By the way, I read the website of ICAA, magkakaroon na ng Chartered Accountants Foundation (CAF) starting January 2015 wherein you don't need to take the 2 subjects sa universities but sa kanila na lang directly parang sa CPAA. May choice ka either mag-enroll ka which is online lang (AUD 1000) or exam lang as long accredited nila yung employer mo. Mas ok ito kesa sa napakamahal na ibang options dati!

vhoythoy · October 2014

Wow! Thanks for the detailed reply @vhoythoy ! You are always a great help po.. You are right, cost is least of my concern talaga dapat. Siguro based sa sinabi nyo, as for me CPAA is ok per for my husband na plan ituloy ang corporate, mas ok ang CA. However, mas ok na sabay kami para mas makareview! Hehe.. We will still think this through and hopefully makaabot sa next sem.

By the way, I read the website of ICAA, magkakaroon na ng Chartered Accountants Foundation (CAF) starting January 2015 wherein you don't need to take the 2 subjects sa universities but sa kanila na lang directly parang sa CPAA. May choice ka either mag-enroll ka which is online lang (AUD 1000) or exam lang as long accredited nila yung employer mo. Mas ok ito kesa sa napakamahal na ibang options dati!

Yup sa akin either the 2 subjects or do a graduate conversion programs then they gave me 2 years to complete it. Then may send sila list of accredited universities. Tapos recently they merge with CA new zealand so tawag sa kanila is CA Aus & New Zealand na. Di ko pa nababasa yan CAF program pero sana mas maging madali. Plans ko gawin study is weekend kasi gusto ko makapag work din agad as konti lang madadala ko pera.

vhoythoy · November 2014

By the way, I read the website of ICAA, magkakaroon na ng Chartered Accountants Foundation (CAF) starting January 2015 wherein you don't need to take the 2 subjects sa universities but sa kanila na lang directly parang sa CPAA. May choice ka either mag-enroll ka which is online lang (AUD 1000) or exam lang as long accredited nila yung employer mo. Mas ok ito kesa sa napakamahal na ibang options dati!

With regard to this, di pala makukuha yan CAF subjects unless you are holders of "non acctg degrees" na equivalent sa au/nz degree. So need to study tlaga sa university, no choice. ICAA confirmed that via email to me

rencerencerence · November 2014

yung syllabus po ba is, syllabus ng buong course? or major subjects lang na related sa accounting?

TasBurrfoot · November 2014

yung syllabus po ba is, syllabus ng buong course? or major subjects lang na related sa accounting?

Accounting subjects... And prolly some related minors.

rencerencerence · November 2014

thank you pre!!!!

agentKams · November 2014

yung syllabus po ba is, syllabus ng buong course? or major subjects lang na related sa accounting?

Just had mine assessed recently, below are their requirements:

- Syllabus details/subject outlines for all accounting, finance, law, economics, statistics and computer information systems subjects. If an official syllabus cannot be obtained, we will accept a Statutory Declaration stating the reason for its non availability and a personally detailed, typewritten summary of all the subjects studied.

rencerencerence · November 2014

maraming salamat @agentKams

chinky · December 2014

@anneoz08 Hi! thanks for your reply. I think mabilis lang naman ang syllabus, well, depende din sa school mo. Sa amin I remember it took me just a week plus yung pag courier pa..anyways, how much will it cost to get CPAA accreditation? All the best to you!

anneoz08 · December 2014

@anneoz08 Hi! thanks for your reply. I think mabilis lang naman ang syllabus, well, depende din sa school mo. Sa amin I remember it took me just a week plus yung pag courier pa..anyways, how much will it cost to get CPAA accreditation? All the best to you!

Hi, after u pass the assessment u can enroll to the CPA program. U need to pass 6 exams (1,000 AUD each) to be taken 3-6 years. Punta ka s website n to all answers to ur queries are here;) cpaaustralia.com.au