MBA in Australia

GoldSeeker · March 2015

Hi, guys!

Still looking for a prospect uni and course program and I have been thinking about getting into an MBA lately.

I hope you can share some experiences about MBA here.

Is it easy to obtain a PR with this program? (I'm a pharmacy graduate btw and currently a med student.)
Manageable ba ang load ng schoolwork?
What are the usual forms of assesment? (Papers, quizzez, reports,etc.)
What uni would be best to take this program (preferably MEL)

Thank you so much po

It will really be a big help!

lock_code2004 · March 2015

just looking at your background.. pharmacy grad.. med student.. then mba..
first concern in getting a student visa is why mba? and proving the "GTE" criteria, Genuine temp entrant.. if you can satisfy this then all good..

your question on will it give you a PR visa.. it depends..
- you can get a 4yr TEMP working visa after finishing either a bachelor/grad studies in AU
- It is now up to you to get a PR after that.. via your own skill, or an employer sponsorship..
- now if you want to apply for your own visa using your own skills, your MBA cannot help you on that.. because assessments are based on bachelor degree/s.
- for employer sponsorship, it really depends on what the job is..

agentKams · March 2015

Hi @GoldSeeker, read through this: http://www.immi.gov.au/Study/Pages/study-work-arrangements.aspx?heading=australian-study-requirement

Getting an MBA in Australia may or may not make you are eligible for PR coz it depends on the skill you are nominating. But in your case Med Student to MBA, why not take a course related to what you are taking now? IMHO.

danyan2001us · March 2015

one critical area to be considered here is on the issue of GTE (genuine temporary entrant) on which presently DIBP is so keen...good luck

GoldSeeker · March 2015

@danyan2001us @lock_code2004 @agentKams Thank you for the advice, guys.

If that's the case, I might opt to go to Nursing instead. But does this mean it will also be hard for me to be admitted there bec of GTE? I am actually planning not to present my credentials as a med student. One year lang naman din yun. And papalitan ko nalang ng work experience instead kasi may pharmacy naman kami dito. Ano po sa tingin niyo?

danyan2001us · March 2015

@danyan2001us @lock_code2004 @agentKams Thank you for the advice, guys.

If that's the case, I might opt to go to Nursing instead. But does this mean it will also be hard for me to be admitted there bec of GTE? I am actually planning not to present my credentials as a med student. One year lang naman din yun. And papalitan ko nalang ng work experience instead kasi may pharmacy naman kami dito. Ano po sa tingin niyo?

ang issue lang naman sa GTE ay ma convince mo sila na ang intention mo dito is really to study and not something else like getting PR or working....if related ang background course mo sa atin sa plano mo na kukunin dito, i don't think that would be an issue with GTE....just remember when you make your GTE statement that you have that genuine intention to go back in pinas after studies....tip ko sa iyo: just make it sure na makapasok ka dito at pag andito ka na, they would not be as strict as in the initial phase of the application....marami kami friends dito na pa ulit ulit na apply ng student visa at wala na problema kasi andito na sila....

Nadine · March 2015

Thanks @lock_code2004 and @danyan2001us for the informative post.

Eto din ang dilemma namin as my sis is LLB satin (Bachelor of Laws) and keen to come. Hindi ko alam what sort of course can prove that "GTE". Suggestions?

To the OP @Goldseeker, matatapos ka na sa medschool? You are not considering applying as doctor instead?

Thanks guys for any input!

GoldSeeker · March 2015

@Nadine I personally think that MBA is a course that you can make use of in the Philippines. So maybe you can say that since the economy of Phil is booming you would want to learn about business blah blah. The consultants from education agencies might also be helpful with regards to this.

Btw, is she done with her LLB program already?

Hindi pa po eh. I'm only in my first year. Nagresearch ako sa pag-aapply as a doctor kaso mukhang tedious din. And my parents want me to obtain the PR asap habang bata pa daw ako. That's why I thought of getting an MBA instead.

Nadine · March 2015

Yep, agree on the doctor pathway. It would probably take 8 years to be specialist consultant, 6 years for GP consultant (and that's being optimistic). I can understand why you would want to re-evaluate your options.

You may be right about MBA. Will look into it. Tapos na sya law degree. Thanks and goodluck mate.

GoldSeeker · March 2015

@Nadine Doctor po pala kayo. Was it hard for you to obtain a visa? Also, do you think Nursing is the best health related program I could take to obtain a PR?

Nadine · March 2015

Mabilis lang naman visa, it was pretty straight-forward via employer sponsorship.

Dun sa tanong mo, if nursing pathway, you still need assessment by ANMAC for skilled migration. If it's a pathway to PR? Absolutely! via 1) employer sponsorship or 2) skilled migration. The nursing degree is just one aspect of that skilled migration assessment though. It's a complex process (and it's not gonna be easy) but madami na nakakuha ng PR with the nursing route.

I'm not a nurse kaya I have limited knowledge but I have dug up the really long thread (but quite informative) regarding the nursing option if you are really keen on going that route.

http://pinoyau.info/discussion/477/what-are-the-options-for-nurses/p2

GoldSeeker · March 2015

I wish I had the luxurious amount of time and money to pursue a medical profession in oz

) I will be taking the nursing degree in oz so hopefully, I'll have a higher chance of obtaining a PR. My sister who is already a PR could also give me 10 points if ever. But thank you po sa advice, doc!

I shall read on this thread during my free time.

Btw, I think ACU offers one of the cheapest MBA programs. It's 23k a year. Goodluck po sa sister niyo

appledeuce · March 2015

^you can also check out Victoria University's MBA programs, which are around 11K/sem.

vhoythoy · March 2015

Gusto ko din mag MBA sa University of melbourne, pero hanggang pangarap nalang

TasBurrfoot · March 2015

Gusto ko din mag MBA sa University of melbourne, pero hanggang pangarap nalang

Yeah, very selective...

As in highly selective!

vhoythoy · March 2015

Gusto ko din mag MBA sa University of melbourne, pero hanggang pangarap nalang
Yeah, very selective...

As in highly selective!

Maliban sa GMAT eto matindi = AU$79,000 haha

Nadine · March 2015

Gusto ko din mag MBA sa University of melbourne, pero hanggang pangarap nalang
Yeah, very selective...

As in highly selective!
Maliban sa GMAT eto matindi = AU$79,000 haha

Pangarap ko din yan! Madami pala tayo hehe. I enquired with them for masters in public health, pero mas mura pa din PR. Kaya ayusin ko muna PR this year, fingers crossed. I believe we have a shot at getting accepted if the current work is related to the course. This is Oz, anything is possible I reckon

vhoythoy · March 2015

Gusto ko din mag MBA sa University of melbourne, pero hanggang pangarap nalang
Yeah, very selective...

As in highly selective!
Maliban sa GMAT eto matindi = AU$79,000 haha
Pangarap ko din yan! Madami pala tayo hehe. I enquired with them for masters in public health, pero mas mura pa din PR. Kaya ayusin ko muna PR this year, fingers crossed. I believe we have a shot at getting accepted if the current work is related to the course. This is Oz, anything is possible I reckon

I am specifically targeting University of Melbourne

"University of Melbourne was ranked 33rd in the world (Second in Australia) behind the Australian National University by QS World University Rankings. Times Higher Education ranks Melbourne as 34th in the world, while the QS World University Rankings places Melbourne 31st in the world"

Malaking bagay kasi ang world ranking particularly with MBA (especially kung sa mga ivy leagues schools ka, it has "premium". Kahit sabihin mo pa na magaling ka. Employers usually starts with your credentials. Sometimes, they favor those who graduated in certain universities/ personal bias. Iba yung kilala university mo in global scale, as you may not sure na sa Australia ka nalang talaga for life.

Plus, the possibility of "NETWORKS". Very good, rich/ famous, influential students studied in prestigious school. You may never know who you will meet and make friends. And ofcourse the other factors such as prestige, alumni, resources, top notch faculties, facilities, employment assistance, etc. So may reasons talga kaya mahal yan. If hindi man ako, i hope sana sa anak ko magawa ko mapagaral jan or sa ibang good schools talga.

I've read that some employers are not really concerned about MBA nowadays, especially if hindi naman magagamit sa jobs. They may even think you are overqualified, and jeopardise your chances to land the job. Some really cares, especially those in investment banks, etc for graduate positions. But those who studying in top notch universities, usually get the internship programs or the start-up positions. Not always the case, pero yan usually nababasa ko like sa mga Analyst forums. Kaya for me either to take MBA in really good schools or not to take it nalang. Unless sagot ng Company, di ok kung saan nia gusto/ pwede but not on my own pocket. Some use MBA for sake of possible permanent/ work visa in the future. Not only in Australia, but also in US, Canada, Nz, etc.

I am not really concerned about the requirements on getting into the program. Big considerations talaga ung gastos. If gastusan ko man sya, will i able to recover the big investment, its uncertain a big question mark especially if you are on your middle career. Sa US typical MBA students are ages 25-30. Those middle managers/ executives usually took Executive MBA program (usually less than a year duration), and usually sagot ng Company as they are groomed for bigger position/ responsibilities. Unless siguro may extra pera talaga ako pero wala hehe. Obvious choice is if i had that amount, i pang down payment ko nlang sa house sa Australia