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Including partner in your visa application

falconfalcon SydneyPosts: 5Member
edited July 2012 in Employer Sponsored Visas
Hi sa lahat..I'm new in this forum..may question me regarding sa pag include mg partner sa visa application..
Naglodge me ng visa last June under employer sponsored..bale I'm here in Australia for 5yrs now..Pero recently Lang ngpunta un partner ko..bale de-facto ko cya..she's holding a 457 visa under my visa..
Kso married kc Ako s pinas but matagal n kme hiwalay..ngyn hinihingi ng agent nmen un marriage certificate ko from my ex-wife..
Ang question ko e do we really need to provide my marriage cert? And will it affect my partner?

May Alam po ba kyo na ganitong case?
Sana po may mkapag enlighten nman smen..thanks po

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  • falconfalcon Sydney
    Posts: 5Member
    Joined: Jul 10, 2012
    @knight..

    Thanks ha..mejo nabuhayan me dun sa links na binigay mo..Sana nga indi mgka-aberya un application nmen.. :)

    ..actually nkuha ko din nman cya papunta d2 sa oz bilang de-facto..

    Bale 856 ung visa na inapply nmen..but right now e we're still holding a 457 visa..
  • mokona14mokona14 Mandaluyong
    Posts: 89Member
    Joined: Feb 19, 2012
    @falcon,. goodluck po :) hope maging positive po :) ask ko lng po,. ung partner nio po nung inaply nio po nung de facto hiningan po ba xa ng cenomar???
  • falconfalcon Sydney
    Posts: 5Member
    Joined: Jul 10, 2012
    @mokona14..

    Thanks..sana nga mging smooth ang processing ng application nmen..

    Nung kinuha ko cya under my 457 visa e as de-facto na..Indi nman cya hiningan ng cenomar..
    actually dati din e hinihingi ng agent nmen un certificate n tlgang hiwalay n kme ng ex-wife ko..Pero sabi nga nmen e mahirap mkakuha ng annulment s pinas at wala din divorce..kaya nga kako e de-facto ang inapply nmen..

    ayun..naging positive nman..
  • steve211steve211 Perth
    Posts: 19Member
    Joined: Jan 28, 2013
    hi sa mga ka group, mag ask lang ako sa inyo sir, if nagpasa ba kayo ng kopya ng previous nso marriage certificate nyo nung kinuha nyo yung de facto partner nyo kahit di pa kayo legally annulled nagpasa pa rin po ba kayo sa embassy? same problem din kasi sir ako, ako legally married pa kahit 6 years ng hiwalay, kinukuha ako ng partner ko na australian we've been together since 2010 and lived in Australia for total of 1 year nag tourist po kasi ko don and now have applied for a defacto provisional partner visa 309 and yan po yung acknowledgement letter ko eh nagrerequest other than the medical nagrerequest din ng nso birth and if previously married copy of marriage cert with annotation of annulment or divorce which is wala pa nga annulment. Ok lang po ba magpasa ng NSO marriage cert without any annotation for annulment dahil nirerequest nila yung previous marriage cert? thanks po sa pagshare ng ideas.
  • gacoquiagacoquia Balanga
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    hello good day po sa lahat. Im the primary applicant , and I have a kid but im not married to my partner. Ok lang ba isama ko sya, he was married pero hiwalay na sya before kami nagkakilala. WIll it be possible for him to be included in my application? de facto ang idedeclare ko we have been living together for more than 2 years already and our baby just turned one year old. Mejo natatakot kasi ako na magproceed if di ko naman sya maisasama :( thank you po sa mga sasagot. btw im not claiming any points from him.

    Feb 20,2013 Submitted ACS online assesment - System Administrator
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  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    @steve211 - sir basahin nyo po ung start ng thread saka ung link na binigay..
    based po dun mukhang naging okay naman ang result ng visa nila kahit na hindi pa annulled/divorce ang previous marriage..

    mukhang wala pang masyadong naka experience ng case nyo dito sa forum.
    kaya wala pong makapagbigay ng concrete answer..

    i guess kailangan lang po malinaw ang situation nyo sa case officer..
    previously married kayo, pero hindi pa annulled/divorce, kasi nga mahirap talga yan sa pinas..
    at kaya nyong patunayan ang current de-facto relationship nyo.. un ang importante..

    goodluck po..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
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  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    hello good day po sa lahat. Im the primary applicant , and I have a kid but im not married to my partner. Ok lang ba isama ko sya, he was married pero hiwalay na sya before kami nagkakilala. WIll it be possible for him to be included in my application? de facto ang idedeclare ko we have been living together for more than 2 years already and our baby just turned one year old. Mejo natatakot kasi ako na magproceed if di ko naman sya maisasama :( thank you po sa mga sasagot. btw im not claiming any points from him.
    based on your statement, im guessing you are applying for a skilled migrant visa.
    kung oo, then walang problema kung gusto mo isama ang anak mo (from a previous relationship) at ang current partner nyo..

    you can declare your partner as de-facto relationship.. you need to provide some doc/statement to prove your relationship...and of course he has to satisfy other requirements (english, medical, police check).. see this thread.. read from the start..

    http://www.pinoyau.info/discussion/828/adding-secondary-applicants-marriedde-factoengaged/p1

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • gacoquiagacoquia Balanga
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    hi lock_code2004, thanks po sa pag sagot.. the baby is our baby po with my current partner, not from a previous one. and yes po skilled migrant.
    maraming salamat :)

    Feb 20,2013 Submitted ACS online assesment - System Administrator
    Feb 22, 2013 ACS Status - Stage 4

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    hi lock_code2004, thanks po sa pag sagot.. the baby is our baby po with my current partner, not from a previous one. and yes po skilled migrant.
    maraming salamat :)
    haha.. sorry po. medyo nalito lang ako...
    definitely mas lalong wlang problem... if you open the thread i gave you.. may link dun din about de-facto.. na especially kung may anak na kayo.. wala ng kailangan proof ng relationship.. enough na ung anak nyo.. ;)
    goodluck!!

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • gacoquiagacoquia Balanga
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    yey! maraming salamat po lock_code.. im actually still collating my docs yung pinakamahirap na part eh yung documentation eh :D so happy to know this info!

    Feb 20,2013 Submitted ACS online assesment - System Administrator
    Feb 22, 2013 ACS Status - Stage 4

  • Laracroft2860Laracroft2860 Mandaluyong
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    Joined: Aug 16, 2013
    Hi guyz...newbie ako sa forum..ask ko lng po,,ok lng kaya kung di ko na i declare na kasal ako? Never kung ginamit and family name ng ex ko..lahat ng identification ko still gamit ko sa pagkadalaga,,nakapag tourist na rim ako sa partner ko now sa australia at nilagay ko sa application is never been married,,now plan namin mag apply ng de facto visa...concern ko is titingnan kaya nila previous form ko? If ever na i dedelar ko na kasal ako this time..worried aok baka mag ka conflict..or paninindigan ko nalng talga na nver been married me..plez help anyone..much appreciated..god blees
  • quesoboyquesoboy Quezon City
    Posts: 56Member
    Joined: Dec 03, 2013
    edited January 2014
    Hi Guys,

    I have a few questions for when your partner will be sponsored by an employer:

    1. As a dependent, what kind of visa do you get? Will it be a Temporary Work visa (457), or something else? How would this affect you further down the line if you want to apply for residency? Is there any effect?

    2. Would it be better to apply as a Skilled Independent if you have the same job as your partner?

    I'm trying to weigh which of the two would be a more flexible or better option for me and my partner in terms of cost, processing time, and possibility of getting approved.

    Hope you can help.

    Thanks.

    My Timeline:

    28 Mar 2014 - Submitted ACS Skills Assessment
    10 May 2014 - Took IELTS (General)
    26 May 2014 - Received ACS Skills Assessment Result: Suitable
    27 May 2014 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5; R: 9; W: 7; S: 8.5; OBS: 8.5)
    28 May 2014 - Submitted EOI for Visa 189
    23 Jun 2014 - Received Invitation for Visa Application
    26 Jun 2014 - Lodged Visa 189 Application
    15 Sep 2014 - Direct Visa Grant

  • appledeuceappledeuce Sydney
    Posts: 412Member
    Joined: Nov 25, 2013
    Hi Guys,

    I have a few questions for when your partner will be sponsored by an employer:

    1. As a dependent, what kind of visa do you get? Will it be a Temporary Work visa (457), or something else? How would this affect you further down the line if you want to apply for residency? Is there any effect?

    2. Would it be better to apply as a Skilled Independent if you have the same job as your partner?

    I'm trying to weigh which of the two would be a more flexible or better option for me and my partner in terms of cost, processing time, and possibility of getting approved.

    Hope you can help.

    Thanks.
    1. If you are a dependent, you get the same visa as the person who declares you as his/her dependent. There shouldn't be any effect on your subsequent visa applications provided that you abided by the rules of your 457 visa (e.g. didn't overstay etc).

    2. Since 457 is just a temp residency visa, I'd suggest that you apply for a skilled independent visa na lang (and have your partner as your dependent) if you feel that you have enough points to qualify for an invite, para permanent residency na agad. Given how Australia changes its migration policies yearly, if qualified ka na for a PR visa now, go na.

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    07 Jan 2014 - undertook medical exam at NHSI Makati
    16 Jan 2014 - received unconditional offer from VU
    13 Feb 2014 - paid 1st sem tuition fees; received e-COE from VU
    13 Feb 2014 - lodged visa application at PIASI
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    24 Feb 2014 - first day of classes
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    06 Aug 2015 - received Letter of Completion from uni
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    07 Aug 2015 - submitted skills assessment to ACS (261311 - Analyst Programmer)
    12 Aug 2015 - received positive skills assessment result from ACS
    12 Aug 2015 - submitted EOI for 189 (60 points), 190 (NSW-65 points), 489 (state and relative sponsored - 70 points)
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  • AllysondAllysond Sydney
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    Joined: Jun 14, 2013
    hi i have a question po, my husband is working in australia under 457 visa, were planning na sumunod na ako sa kanya which his company allows him and will provide letter as a requirement in lodging my subsequent visa. my question is how long bago magrant yung visa ko, mataga kaya? Thanks.

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  • nfrondanfronda Perth
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    @Allysond..No, it will only take a month.. Mabilis lg pag ok na lahat ng requirements. Kung minsan medical lg ang ngpapatagal.

    06-01-11: Arrived Australia (457 visa dependent on my dad)
    28-05-12: Lodged RSMS 857 visa (seperate from my dad already)
    28-06-12: Done Medical check
    30-10-12: Submit AFP check
    07-11-12: Went home on a bridging visa B for holiday and wedding..:)
    12-01-13: CO allocated and nomination approved
    18-01-13: CO asked documents of my husband to be included on my application as migrating dependent..Thank u LORD!
    15-02-13: Husband completed all requirements (police check, medical, english requirements and joint statement)
    15-02-13: CO issued pre-grant letter instructing hubby to apply tourist visa to enter Australia in order our 857 visa to be granted.
    27-02-13: Hubby applied Subclass 676 tourist visa.
    06-03-13: Hubby's tourist visa approved.
    16-03-13: Hubby arrived Australia.
    18-03-13: Our RSMS 857 visa granted.. (nothing to ask more)

  • AllysondAllysond Sydney
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    Nfronda thanks sa reply,..who will give referral pala for medical? Nglodge n ko ng visa thru online kaso wait ko n lang yung letter from my husband's employer,..

    Plan kasi naman by march 15 flight ko so sana marelase visa before nun,.

    457 visa

  • nfrondanfronda Perth
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    @Allysond..Just wait for your CO, he/she will be the one to give you a referral for medical. As long na complete na lahat ng requirements grant na lg agad yan.

    06-01-11: Arrived Australia (457 visa dependent on my dad)
    28-05-12: Lodged RSMS 857 visa (seperate from my dad already)
    28-06-12: Done Medical check
    30-10-12: Submit AFP check
    07-11-12: Went home on a bridging visa B for holiday and wedding..:)
    12-01-13: CO allocated and nomination approved
    18-01-13: CO asked documents of my husband to be included on my application as migrating dependent..Thank u LORD!
    15-02-13: Husband completed all requirements (police check, medical, english requirements and joint statement)
    15-02-13: CO issued pre-grant letter instructing hubby to apply tourist visa to enter Australia in order our 857 visa to be granted.
    27-02-13: Hubby applied Subclass 676 tourist visa.
    06-03-13: Hubby's tourist visa approved.
    16-03-13: Hubby arrived Australia.
    18-03-13: Our RSMS 857 visa granted.. (nothing to ask more)

  • AllysondAllysond Sydney
    Posts: 87Member
    Joined: Jun 14, 2013
    Thanks ulit,...nasubmit ko n visa application ko then nagenerate ko n din yung referral letter pra sa medical,..tonight i will upload na rin ung mga documents needed,..nareceive ko n din yung letter from my husband's employer kaso mali date of birth ko kaya pinapalitan ko,..

    Thanks h,..Godbless

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  • nfrondanfronda Perth
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    Joined: Mar 19, 2013
    @Allysond..ayan namn pla ehh..so madali na lg yan..do u have kids ba?..or ikw lg?

    06-01-11: Arrived Australia (457 visa dependent on my dad)
    28-05-12: Lodged RSMS 857 visa (seperate from my dad already)
    28-06-12: Done Medical check
    30-10-12: Submit AFP check
    07-11-12: Went home on a bridging visa B for holiday and wedding..:)
    12-01-13: CO allocated and nomination approved
    18-01-13: CO asked documents of my husband to be included on my application as migrating dependent..Thank u LORD!
    15-02-13: Husband completed all requirements (police check, medical, english requirements and joint statement)
    15-02-13: CO issued pre-grant letter instructing hubby to apply tourist visa to enter Australia in order our 857 visa to be granted.
    27-02-13: Hubby applied Subclass 676 tourist visa.
    06-03-13: Hubby's tourist visa approved.
    16-03-13: Hubby arrived Australia.
    18-03-13: Our RSMS 857 visa granted.. (nothing to ask more)

  • AllysondAllysond Sydney
    Posts: 87Member
    Joined: Jun 14, 2013
    Ako lang, the reason kaya ako pupunta e para mkabuo ng baby:),..pero sana makahanap n din ng work at medyo mahal ang cost of living dun,

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  • nfrondanfronda Perth
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    Joined: Mar 19, 2013
    @Allysond, hirap namn kasi malayo sa asawa ehh..so dapt lg talaga na pumunta ka ditto. Yes, mahal ang cost of living. Pero pag dalawa kau ang my wrk at wla pang anak, malaki talga ang ma save mo compare sa Pinas. Sa paghahanap ng work tyaga lg ang kailangan at dapt wag muna maging choosy..

    06-01-11: Arrived Australia (457 visa dependent on my dad)
    28-05-12: Lodged RSMS 857 visa (seperate from my dad already)
    28-06-12: Done Medical check
    30-10-12: Submit AFP check
    07-11-12: Went home on a bridging visa B for holiday and wedding..:)
    12-01-13: CO allocated and nomination approved
    18-01-13: CO asked documents of my husband to be included on my application as migrating dependent..Thank u LORD!
    15-02-13: Husband completed all requirements (police check, medical, english requirements and joint statement)
    15-02-13: CO issued pre-grant letter instructing hubby to apply tourist visa to enter Australia in order our 857 visa to be granted.
    27-02-13: Hubby applied Subclass 676 tourist visa.
    06-03-13: Hubby's tourist visa approved.
    16-03-13: Hubby arrived Australia.
    18-03-13: Our RSMS 857 visa granted.. (nothing to ask more)

  • AllysondAllysond Sydney
    Posts: 87Member
    Joined: Jun 14, 2013
    Yap nakaset na sa mind ko na hindi ako magiging choosy, my plan naman is magsimula sa baba since nasa ibang country ako,..ang usapan kasi ng husband ko if d ako susunod dun e uuwi n siya kaya no choice kundi sumunod dun kasi mas better yung opportunity para s aming dlwa,

    Ikaw anong work mo? Sydney k?

    457 visa

  • nfrondanfronda Perth
    Posts: 816Member
    Joined: Mar 19, 2013
    @Allysond..Yeah, that's right much better ang opportunity nyo ditto. At isipin mo maraming kababayan natin ang ngkakandarapa na mkapunta dito, tapos sau sasayangin mo lg ang chance na mkapunta dito sa medaling paraan. Ung iba ilang libo ang ginastos eh pra lg mkapunta dito. So saying talaga pag indi mo e grab.

    I'm working in an aviation company at dito ako sa Broome WA.

    06-01-11: Arrived Australia (457 visa dependent on my dad)
    28-05-12: Lodged RSMS 857 visa (seperate from my dad already)
    28-06-12: Done Medical check
    30-10-12: Submit AFP check
    07-11-12: Went home on a bridging visa B for holiday and wedding..:)
    12-01-13: CO allocated and nomination approved
    18-01-13: CO asked documents of my husband to be included on my application as migrating dependent..Thank u LORD!
    15-02-13: Husband completed all requirements (police check, medical, english requirements and joint statement)
    15-02-13: CO issued pre-grant letter instructing hubby to apply tourist visa to enter Australia in order our 857 visa to be granted.
    27-02-13: Hubby applied Subclass 676 tourist visa.
    06-03-13: Hubby's tourist visa approved.
    16-03-13: Hubby arrived Australia.
    18-03-13: Our RSMS 857 visa granted.. (nothing to ask more)

  • AllysondAllysond Sydney
    Posts: 87Member
    Joined: Jun 14, 2013
    Nfronda@ tama k naman dun,..kaya nga ito wala ng atrasan lalo n at mkapagbayad n kame, ang taas n pala ng visa ngaun, imagine i paid 1,035aud,..prang last year 400++ lang,..

    457 visa

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