TRA Assessment Form

Megger · October 2015

Oo nga no. Medyo complicated.

paulcasablanca1980 · October 2015

update guys, i had received this morning my skills assessment outcome thru email ( PDF ), and its SUCCESSFULL, tagumpay! thanks to bro @Adamantium for the advise/guidance, just followed it all and Prayed everyday :-)

btw, took only 44 days, so di ko expect na mapapaaga.

Additional info re:

Education - Degree ko from ETEEAP ay inde na assess, only my Tech/Voc Diploma ( 2 yrs )
which is equivalent to Cert III, this would amount to 10pts..
Work Experience - Start ng skilled employment ko sa nominated occupation eh after completion/graduation ng Tech/Voc ( 2 yrs ), bale meet ko yung 8 yrs work experience, so that would be 15pts..

Documents on top of the main requirements i believed na nakatulong:

Education:
TOR Course Description/Syllabus/Curriculum
Special Order ( TESDA requirement para maka graduate )

Work Experience:
SSS Member Contribution ( pinas work experience )
Annual Salary Performance Review ( basta may naka reflect na sweldo )
Old COE and compensation ( naka indicate sweldo/VL/AL, bonus etc )
Incomplete payslip or ITR

hope this helps..

review-review na ulit ng PTE :-)

Megger · October 2015

Congrats Bro. Nakakainspire. Ask ko lang di kasi nabanggit yong job description sa docs mo, nsa COE na ba yon. With all the details like tools used, office hour etc.? Im asking a signature pa for Detailed JD sa previous employr ko. Hopefully I will submit before the end of the month.
Goodluck sa TPE.

paulcasablanca1980 · October 2015

@Megger, i mean on top of the usual primary requirements such as COE, Payslips etc..
Contents ng COE ko ay yung basic info e.g. salary,start/end ng employment, contact number / signature ng HR.. Yung Tools/Instruments used, work hours ay sa Employment Statement ko nilagay.

Basically, some informations from your COE, even if detailed with HR signatories , you still need to have the Employment Statement, which will be signed by your current/former boss/supervisor or anyone higher level position than you na pede mo pa macontact..

vhenzchico · October 2015

@paulcasablanca1980 Wow! Congrats sa good news bro! Sayang, di nakasaman yung ETEEAP degree no? Additional 5pts pa sana. Anyways, galingan mo na lang sa PTE para ma-hit mo yung passmark! Thanks for sharing. Lapit na rin ako magpasa...konting mga docs na lang antay ko..

Cheers!!!

vhenzchico · October 2015

@paulcasablanca1980 Btw, sa semicon ka rin di ba? credited lahat ng years mo? Nga pala, sa payslip, pede ba na at least 2x/ yr ang i-submit?

Adamantium · October 2015

@paulcasablanca1980 congrats brod, tuloy tuloy na yan hanggang visa. Halos lahat ng kailangan mo sa visa nakuha mo na nung nagpaassess ka sa tra. Aral aral na lang sa PTE at malamang swak ka na sa aussie.

@vhenzchico TRA can only assess the maximum of advance diploma and they cant assess degrees. He can get points for his degree if he gets assessed by vetassess. Educational qualifications and skills assessment are independent from each other. You can have a phd in teaching and get points for that in education even if you were assessed as a butcher by tra. As for the years of experience, tra only gives you when you were able to start in the nominated occupation but not the total number of years. They have a separate assessment for that which is totally not needed and expensive, the points test advice. Remember, tra already assessed at least 3 years as relevant in your work experience. If you have all your work evidences clear and complete then just go ahead and let immigration review your total work experience.

Adamantium · October 2015

@vhenzchico if your payslip has all the details the same as a "primary source" as detailed by TRA below then once is enough per year.

TRA will require at least one primary source of evidence or a minimum of two
secondary sources of evidence for each year and each period of employment
being claimed. Additional evidence may also be requested.
Primary sources of evidence may include:

 Tax records that cite the name of the applicant and the employer
 Annual payment summaries/Group certificates that cite the name of the
applicant and the employer
 Pay slips that include the name of the employer, commencement date of the
employment and year to date income information
 Superannuation documents that cite the name of the applicant and the name
of the employer
 Annual/company returns (for self-employed applicants) with an accompanying
accountant statement

Secondary sources of evidence may include:

Department of Education and Training TRA Migration Skills Assessment Applicant Guidelines Page 25
 Pay slips (without details of commencement date or year to date income
information)
 Advice regarding wages paid in an employer statement (in accordance with
Section 2.8.6)
 A certified statement from your registered/certified accountant.
 Letters from taxation offices that do not contain the name of the employer
 Bank statements showing income deposited from employment.

Megger · October 2015

@adamantium pwed bang sabay i launch ang application ng vetasses for the degree and TRA? Would one requires the other? Thanks.

Adamantium · October 2015

@Megger pwede naman, but of course the only reason that you would go this route is because either kulang ka ng points or you want to get invited earlier to apply for the visa. Once a month na lang ngayon ata mag invite kaya kung gusto niyo mauna eh the more points the better.

Megger · October 2015

@adamantium I have a Standard COE and official job description from my previous coy in the Phils. Pina CTC ko dapat ito sa Pinas kaso ang ginawa ng lawyer ay notaryo, and they lost the original copies. So I have only the notarized copy. Is it ok to CTC this notarized copy and send to TRA?

paulcasablanca1980 · October 2015

@vhenzchico, yep semicon lahat exp ko ( total 12 yrs ) Backend to Final Test, pero i claim ko lang eh 8yrs.. Based kasi sa assessment ko, nag start ako mag skilled work from the day i graduated ( Tech/Voc Diploma )

Breakdown ng mga work experience docs/supporting :

Company A ( 3yrs / will not claim )
Updated COE generic
Old COE with compensation
Employment Statement
SSS Member contribution/history
Equipment Trainings
No payslip

Company B ( 4yrs will claim )
Updated COE
Employment Statement
2x ITRs
1x payslip
Performance/ Appraisal Review
Training History
Old Badge ( company ID )

Company B ( 5yrs will claim)
Updated COE
Employment Statement
IRAS ( tax )
IR8A ( company tax record )
Performance / Appraisal Review
Company ID

hope this helps

paulcasablanca1980 · October 2015

@Adamantium , thanks ulit bro , kitakits sa down under :-)

vhenzchico · October 2015

@Adamantium Thanks po for patiently explaining lahat..

At least, may option na ako if ever na di umabot points ko..hehehe...pa-assess ko lang yung degree ko. Pero sana ok na kahit wala, para menos gastos, hehehe... Buti pa si @paulcasablanca1980, nakahinga na. Hehehehe.

Eto po yung docs na balak ko ipasa. Pa-advise nga po kung ok na...

School A- Electronics Eng'g Tech- 3yrs
School B- BSIE- ETEEAP
TOR (2 schools)
Course Syllabus (2 schools)
Diploma (2 schools)

Company A (11 yrs)
Employment statement
ITR (yung ibang yrs wala po, 5yrs ata yung wala)
Payslips (ganun din po, may mga yrs na wala, 5-7 yrs ata wala)
Equipment/ Process Training records
COE for different years (but not all)
ID

Company B (8mos)
Employment statement
Payslips for 8 mos
COE
Employment Contract
Regularization Letter
ID

SSS Contribution & Pag-Ibig contribution for company A & B.

Question po, sufficient na po kaya yung SSS/ Pag-Ibig Contribution ko to support yung mga years na wala akong payslip and ITR?

Thanks po...nakakakaba pala to...kasi very costly magkamali..hehehee..

Adamantium · October 2015

@vhenzchico , mukhang ok naman na sa SSS contribution kasi nakalagay ang company name at monthly contributions mo pero don't take my word for it, the more the merrier ika nga. What you can do is to map out what evidences you have for each year, if you have one "primary source" as what I've linked earlier then that year should be "enough", if you don't you can get bank statements for a particular month of that year which you're missing. Again the key here is to provide as much evidence as possible that they would not have any doubts on your claims, decision ready is what they want. Again, you just have to prove minimum of 3 years so probably make the last 3 years' evidences very clear and complete.

Adamantium · October 2015

@megger , Hindi ko alam pero ang alam ko sa notaryo ay yung original ay pipirmahan in front of a witness which is normally a notary public. A document that has already been signed by the issuer cannot be notarized unless it is signed in the presence of a notary. So a notarized document is actually an original. Magulo ano? kung magulo eh ulitin mo na lang hehe. Ayaw ng TRA ng magulo, ikaw din, sayang ang $1000. Mas mabuti pa na walang notaryo kahit photocopy lang siya ng original tapos xerox mo siya ulit tapos yun ang pa ctc mo.

vhenzchico · October 2015

@Adamantium Thanks again sir. Kuha na lang siguro ako ng bank statements para mas sigurado.

Megger · October 2015

@adamantium,@paulcasablanca1980, ipa ctc pa ba yong statutory declaration na ipadala sa TRA? TIA

Adamantium · October 2015

@megger I didnt go through stat declaration but here is what the MSA guideline says:

"If you are supplying a statutory declaration from outside Australia, statutory
declarations must be signed and stamped by a person with authority to do so as
recognised by the law of the country where the declaration is being made. In all
instances, the statutory declaration must have the declarant’s signature witnessed by
a legal authority in the country where the declaration was made."

It would also be more productive if you read through the guidelines found in the website first to have a general understanding of the whole process. It's difficult to base your whole TRA application from the answers in this forum. Although this forum has been very informative, I had to research all the details and information myself through reading the guidelines and through Mr. google, even the answers I just gave you now. Here's the link: http://www.tradesrecognitionaustralia.gov.au/Programs/Migration/Documents/33. TRA MSA Applicant Guidelines V9.0.pdf

Megger · October 2015

@adamantium, thanks..

vhenzchico · October 2015

@paulcasablanca1980, Ask ko lang po kung ano po ilalagay sa Part 4 ng Application Form: Relevant Vocational Qualification Details--- yung about sa vocational training, ano po ilalagay dun? yes or no? Taz yung qualifications obtained, yung technician course ko po ba ilalagay dun? hindi ko na i-include yung engineering degree?

Salamat po uli,,

paulcasablanca1980 · November 2015

@vhenzchico, yung sakin nilagay ko is Yes, tas yung trade school diploma ko sa part na yan ( Technical Course ). Yung sa Engg Degree nilagay ko sa pinaka-una.

1st : ENGG Degree
2nd : Technical/Vocational Diploma

vhenzchico · November 2015

@paulcasablanca1980 Thanks bro! Musta ang PTE mo? May sked kna ba ng exam?

paulcasablanca1980 · November 2015

@vhenzchico, nov14 pa exam ko :-)

vhenzchico · November 2015

@paulcasablanca1980 Goodluck! Baka by Dec pa ko mag-take. Kayang-kaya mo yan!

azan1989 · November 2015

Hi po sa lahat, I need your advise po to confirm if i'm on the right track of choosing TRA as my assessing body po para sa prefered occupation na pinili ko sa SOL.

First and foremost po, Ang natapos po na course ko ay Bachelors of Electronics Technology (4years), at merun din po akong vocational course sa tesda na Computer Hardware Servicing NCII (6months) , currently I'm employed po as IT-Support dito sa Qatar for about 3 years na din po.

I'm Having doubts on choosing the right assessing body to evaluate my education and skills po if should I choose ACS or TRA. Kindly advice me which is the best po for my situation. Computer Network and Systems Engineer (263111 - ACS) / Electronic Equipment Trades Worker (342313 - TRA) or if merun po kayong mas mabuti maisusugest po na piliin ko.

maraming salamat po sa pagbasa... God Bless po sa inyong lahat....

vhenzchico · November 2015

@azan1989 try to evaluate po yung line of work mo kung san sya mas pasok, kung sa sys engr ba or sa tradesworker. try to compare po kung san yung mas malapit. and kung yung education mo is may mga subjects na closely-related sa qualifications dun sa work na yun. Btw, as far as I know, electronic equipment trades worker is under TRA, but assessment is done by VETASSESS (Offshore Skills Assessment Program). May technical interview sila, thru skype, I think.

Megger · November 2015

@vhenzchico, nag submit ka na ba ng docs? San ba makita address ng TRA for docs submission?

Megger · November 2015

@azan check mo rin yong minimum required number of years kung saan ka pwed. Im not sure with ACS, sa TRA kasi 3 years dun sa trade na napili mo. Check mo rin yong details ng skill kung saan ang pinakamalapit sa ginagawa mo kasi magpoprovide ka ng proof nun. If things matches well then less head ache.