Australian Computer Society Skills Application

jandm · December 2015

@mgt21 hello! as per EOI may note pala sa end date nakalagay "If you are currently still with this employer you can leave the "date to" (end date of employment) field blank. If your circumstances change you must update your details." kaya inupdate ko ulit ung EOI with blank end date..thanks to @tiggeroo for this helpful info!

mgt21 · December 2015

@jandm, checked yung pdf ng EOI, ganun nga ginawa ko.

medyo lito kasi sa mga forms.

tiggeroo · December 2015

hi again @jandm, share ko lang din tong tracker galing sa kabilang forum sayo at sa ibang 2613-ers here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wpxz_YSkxwGIDU4jaok7MkApZRJbyB8BdETAJG3eboA/edit#gid=0
Based on this, nakakakuha na ng invitations ang 60 pointers nung last round, and based din sa skillselect bumaba na ung ceiling back to 60. Ang mga 65 pointers naman ay cleared up to Dec 4, so mukhang walang backlog. So at your 65 points, I don't think mahirapan ka ma-invite sa 189.
Sorry dami kong sinabi, mejo ganito din kasi naging dilemma ko before, at naisip ko mag 190 para sureball mataas sa points, pero the drawback would be limited ka sa state although maganda naman sa NSW or if doon mo talaga goal pumunta

oksoks · December 2015

Hi, I've been reading this thread for a while. I just want to confirm something with regards to my application. Should I apply for a "review" (Sayang yung 3 years)? I submitted a statutory declaration from my Asst. Manager.

The following employment has been assessed as not suitable.
Dates: 03/12 - 12/15 (0yrs 0mths)
Position: Software Engineer - Not Assessable due to Insufficient Detail
Employer: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Country: SINGAPORE

jandm · December 2015

@oksoks bakit daw insufficient detail? di ka ba nagsubmit or hinanapan ng payslip/HR letter/termination letter before sila nagbigay syo ng final assessment result letter?

All third party Statutory Declarations or Affidavits must include only one of the following:
•Certified copy of Payslips – preferably first & last payslip
•Certified copy of Human Resource statement or Service Certificate
•Certified copy of Termination Letter with corresponding dates

pwede ka naman mag apply for review/appeal kaso may additional fee ulit na $395..dapat within 60 days from the day na nareceive mo yung result letter..

ilang yrs yung naassess syo na relevant skilled level?

oksoks · December 2015

@jandm Salamat sa reply. Statutory lang nabigay ko that time. Pero weird na hindi nila ako hiningan ng additional docs sa stage 2. Mag submit na lang ako ng payslips/contracts/letter/ID. Sana enough na yun. I need that extra 5 points unless maka 8 ako sa IELTS. I guess, wala akong choice. Lunok na lang.

Out of 13 yrs, 4 years lang na credit. Related lahat sa software development ang trabaho ko pero ibang designation. Yung SE pa yung hindi na credit. I followed din lahat ng format. Nabasa ko dito na baka sa dahil "AQF Diploma" lang ang AMA Computer College kaya malaki deductions. Case to case basis talaga.

Xiaomau82 · December 2015

Hi, I've been reading this thread for a while. I just want to confirm something with regards to my application. Should I apply for a "review" (Sayang yung 3 years)? I submitted a statutory declaration from my Asst. Manager.

The following employment has been assessed as not suitable.
Dates: 03/12 - 12/15 (0yrs 0mths)
Position: Software Engineer - Not Assessable due to Insufficient Detail
Employer: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Country: SINGAPORE

yes, pwede ka apply for review. mke sure u submit complete requirements.

oksoks · December 2015

@Xiaomau82 Thank you sa reply.

poochini · December 2015

hello, ask ko lang po if pwede ipa notarize ung docs ko from Singapore sa pinas? meaning ung mga COE/Employment reference ko from SG Company e sa Pinas ko ipapa notarize sana. thanks po in advance sa mga sasagot

God Bless!

gerardds · December 2015

@poochini i think ok naman yun, i did the same thing, nagpanotarize akong ng docs from philippines to Malaysia and wala namng problem

mgt21 · December 2015

@poochini, yes alam ko pwede to.

jfermalansmc · December 2015

Hi am been in the IT Education teaching programming and networking for 15years, am also Microsoft Certified Professional, pwede po ba ako mag pasa rin po sa ACS? hindi ko rin po alam kung pasok sa SOL ung skilled ko, pa help naman , thanks

appledeuce · December 2015

Hi am been in the IT Education teaching programming and networking for 15years, am also Microsoft Certified Professional, pwede po ba ako mag pasa rin po sa ACS? hindi ko rin po alam kung pasok sa SOL ung skilled ko, pa help naman , thanks

I think your occupation would be ICT Trainer. wala po siya sa SOL pero nasa CSOL. It looks like SA and NT are the states providing sponsorship for this ANZSCO code. Good luck po!

http://deltaimmigration.com.au/ICT-Trainer/223211.htm

coachella9 · December 2015

Hello Forumers,

Good Day! Ask ko lang po kung anong pinag kaiba ng ANZSCO code na 261111 - ICT Business Analysts versus 261112 - Systems Analysts. It seems na closely parehas. I am an SAP Finance and Consulting Functinal Consultant, both doing production system support and SAP Implementation. I hope somebody here could help me kung ano yung tamang ANZSCO Code or has a similar job role with me. Thanks and more power po sa inyo.

Below information is from the ACS' ANZSCO Description 2015:

261111 - ICT Business Analysts
Identifies and communicates with users to formulate and produce a requirements specification to create system and software solutions.
Description of Employment Duties:
 working with users to formulate and document business requirements
 identifying, investigating, and analyzing business processes, procedures and work practices
 identifying and evaluating inefficiencies and recommending optimal business practices, and system functionality and behavior
 using project management methodologies, principles and techniques to develop project plans and to cost, resource and manage projects
 taking responsibility for deploying functional solutions, such as creating, adopting and implementing system test plans, which ensure acceptable quality and integrity of the system
 creating user and training documentation, and conducting formal training classes
 developing functional specifications for use by system developers
 using data and process modeling techniques to create clear system specifications for the design and development of system software
 acting as a central reference and information source, providing guidance and assistance in the system project decision making process

261112 - Systems Analysts
Evaluates processes and methods used in existing ICT systems, proposes modifications, additional system components or new systems to meet user needs as expressed in specifications and other documentation.
Description of Employment Duties:
 working with users to formulate and document business requirements
 identifying, investigating, and analyzing business processes, procedures and work practices
 identifying and evaluating inefficiencies and recommending optimal business practices, and system functionality and behavior
 using project management methodologies, principles and techniques to develop project plans and to cost, resource and manage projects
 taking responsibility for deploying functional solutions, such as creating, adopting and implementing system test plans, which ensure acceptable quality and integrity of the system
 creating user and training documentation, and conducting formal training classes
 developing functional specifications for use by system developers
 using data and process modeling techniques to create clear system specifications for the design and development of system software
 acting as a central reference and information source, providing guidance and assistance in the system project decision making process

mariem · December 2015

@coachella9 if you noticed magkapareho ng description of employment duties but different in function. Ikaw ang makakapagsabi which code will best match your experience according to your actual work function.

coachella9 · January 2016

@mariem salamat. After carefully reviewing my jd's, i think i'll go for the system analyst.

mariem · January 2016

@coachella9 Yung mga COE mo should also match the duties to system analyst para ma credit sya for your nominated skill mo

God Bless.

mavert · January 2016

Hello po sa lahat. Salamat ky lord at nakita ko forum na ito makakatulong sa amin ng malaki ito lalo na po na we decided ng husband ko na wag na mag agent kase medyo mahal din. Una ko pong tanong ano po ba dapat namin gawin kase yung husband ko po ay BS Industrial Engineering pero ang work po nya ay Software Tester since September 2006? Thank you in advance po.

VinMagzie28 · January 2016

@mariem saan po na asses yung 4 yrs deduction from sa signature nyo po?

mgt21 · January 2016

@mavert, since tester si husband, i think need nya mag-pa-access sa ACS din. so ang unang steps is to gather docs. - COE (with detailed job description from all previous employers) or if hindi available, statutory declaration. back read/search forum ka lang makikita mo yung mga information needed sa COE at yung format ng statutory. also need ng Transcript at Diploma. have them all notarized. then submit mo na ACS para maaccess nila.
Aside from that review narin for PTE or IELTS para mabilis ang usad ng requirements.

Good luck.

mariem · January 2016

@VinMagzie28 my hubby had his assessment by Australian Computer Society (ACS)

mavert · January 2016

@mgt21, thank you po sa help nyo po. naghahanap na nga po ng review center yung husband ko para maka start na po sya ng review for IELTS. ano po ba dapat mauna mag exam po sya or mag skills assessment? Thank you po! God Bless and Good luck din po.

mariem · January 2016

@mavert you may also want to consider PTe Academic instead of IELTS.

mgt21 · January 2016

@mavert sabi nga nila mas madali ang PTE though mas mahal ata. not sure wait natin yung ibang nakapag-exam on both.

Depende sis kung anung mas magandang unahin. pero kasi yung IELTS/PTE need ng preparation specially if you are rooting for a higher score. Ako kasi initially may IELTS na nung 2014 kaya dire-direcho yung pag process (you can refer to my timeline). I suggest review/practice as early as now, gather documents for assessment then submit na pag-complete na.

wala namang issue kung anung mas mauuna.

kittykitkat18 · January 2016

@mavert mas ok po is unahin muna skills assessment. Pag favorable results then saka ka mag IELTS or PTE..i suggest PTE..mas malaki ang chance to get 20 pts..mabilis pa results

Xiaomau82 · January 2016

Hello po sa lahat. Salamat ky lord at nakita ko forum na ito makakatulong sa amin ng malaki ito lalo na po na we decided ng husband ko na wag na mag agent kase medyo mahal din. Una ko pong tanong ano po ba dapat namin gawin kase yung husband ko po ay BS Industrial Engineering pero ang work po nya ay Software Tester since September 2006? Thank you in advance po.

sister ko Tester din, but we had her assessed as Systems Analyst since Tester kasi is on CSOL which requires state nomination. I think, first step is to check which nominated occupation best fit your husbands occupation. you can check http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/CSOL as much as possible try to find an occupation na nasa SOL instead of CSOL.

mavert · January 2016

@Xiaomau82, ito po ba yun "261112 - Systems Analysts
Evaluates processes and methods used in existing ICT systems, proposes modifications, additional system components
or new systems to meet user needs as expressed in specifications and other documentation."
THank you po sabihin ko po to sa husband ko. Maraming salamat po talaga sa mga help nyo. God Bless po!!!

@kittykitkat18, Sabihin ko po yan sa husband ko. Nabasa ko rin po kase na pag hindi related yung course don sa job na pinapaassess mag RPL dw. THank you po and God Bless!!!

@mgt21, Thank you po talaga. Sabihin ko sa husband ko na mag research din sya about PTE.
As of now po nag request na sya ng COE sa previous company nya. Thank you po talaga sa mga help nyo. God Bless po!!!

@mariem, mas madali po ba yung PTE and how much po? Thank you po!!!God bless!!!

kittykitkat18 · January 2016

@mavert yup most likely na mag RPL hubby mo kng hndi related ung qualification sa work experience. Not sure kng 5 or 6 yrs deduction ng ACS yan

mariem · January 2016

@mavert so far kasi according to my research mas favor ako sa PTE kaya si hubby PTE ang pinakuha ko instead of IELTS. Yung written sa PTE, you will just type it sa computer unlike sa IELTS na magsusulat ka talaga manually. Maraming info about PTE that you can read here sa forum.

psalms5110 · January 2016

Hello mga kabayan! Tanong lang sana kung paano magpapareassess sa ACS! mali ung date ng employment ko dun sa dati kong employer and short ako ng 3months para makakuha ng 5points for experience. My fault din kasi nd ko nadouble check ung dates. Paano po magpareassess kung isang documents lang ung ipaparecheck? same price ba ulit?

TIA