According to study Overqualified migrants suffer depression

aolee · August 2012

Hi Guys,

Just something to read for you.

pamatay oras

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/overqualified-migrants-suffer-depression/story-fn3dxiwe-1226444995310

LokiJr · August 2012

Masakit talaga kung under-employed...pero it's a matter of perspective e...

Puwede namang magtrabaho ka muna ng kahit ano sa Australia tapos pag may ipon na, saka maghanap ng trabaho na gusto mo talaga...para iwas depression hehe

faye · August 2012

Kkalungkot nman ang news na ito. Nakakaba tuloy

stolich18 · August 2012

Hindi lang un, kahit hindi ka overqualified pde rin na, hindi mo preferred company ung mapuntahan mo. Let's say working ka na sa isang ok na company here sa pinas. hehehe Actually eto ung case ko ngayon.. May offer na ako after a job interview (na hindi ko alam na job interview na pla, kaya pala pinagpawisan ako sagutin ang mga technical questions nila heheh)... Di ko tuloy alam if kukunin ko or hindi kase dapat within 4 weeks andon na ako.. Tska yung company kase parang di ata maganda ang reputation sa AU. hehehehe Kaya pinagiisipan ko pa rin tlga.. Waah need inputs from those already working in AU..

stolich18 · August 2012

Reply to @jaero:
Sent you a PM na po. Thanks!

lock_code2004 · August 2012

i guess we can generalized based on this study... not just if you are a migrant... but also kahit nasa sarili kang bansa...

naturally if your job is not related to your skills/educational qualification, eh talagang madedepress ka at some point.... sana lang eh hindi matagalan ang pagrecover..

my favorite quote of all time:

If you CAN do something about it... why worry?
If you CAN'T do something about it... why worry?

Bryan · August 2012

oo same din ito dito sa atin, marami namang hindi sa linya ang mga work. pero masasanay din tayo basta gusto natin, matututo naman tayo. tulad ko electronics engr pero working as a mechanical engineer since my first job. nakaka lungkot minsan na hindi sa linya ko ang work ko pero i see to it that i enjoy my new field para makalimutan ko ang stress. basta ok yung trabaho bakit hindi natin itry.. wag lang ako maging janitor, ma-iistress na talaga ako nito.

Bryan · August 2012

sa office din namin, may Mechanical design Engineer na consultant na, pero yung course nya electronics engineer.

JClem · August 2012

Depende talaga sa tao. If masaya ka naman sa nakuha mong work and enjoy ka sa ginagawa mo kahit di align sa skills mo or previous work experience mo, ok lang. Pero if di ka naman masaya, bakit naman patatagalin ng 3 taon hangan sa ma-depress na. Just make it as a stepping stone but be diligent enough to search for a job that fits you. I'm pretty sure there's always one meant for us.

Sushigurl · August 2012

Reply to @stolich18: Depends on your visa, if working visa-il say dont take it. If PR visa-as long as bayaran ka ng maigi why not.. Even if pangit ang reputation nila, do your job properly and utilize it as a stepping stone. At least magkaka working experience ka na agad, unlike the rest of us who have to agonize for several months due to lack of local experience.

Metaform · August 2012

It's normal to feel uneasy when you have to start from the ground up, especially when you're already at a senior level. Personally, I like my profession but I'd rather do something else. Tapos na yung pagpupursigi ko na maka-ipon ng experience points sa field ko if ever I get the visa. I'd rather draw for comic books or write stories. There are people lucky enough to be doing what they love.

Going back to the topic, my uncle was holding an executive position in a government agency in Manila before they moved to Sydney 20-ish years ago. When they got to oz, he started working as a ticket seller at the train station while studying at night. He did that until he got back to doing the same thing he was doing in Manila. His story never fails to inspire me whenever I think about it.

adelaide_boi · August 2012

I guess this alarming news is not applicable to many Filipinos who migrated from 2009 onwards. In fact, most of us (not 100% though), have had secured job in a span of three months or less, in line with our professions. Filipinos are often madiskarte and are really survivors in a foreign land where competition is really tough. Our qualifications and work experiences are not fake, compared to other nationalities where even IELTS are being questioned by the Australian immigration because of the negative issues in their homeland. There was an i*dian guy here with a doctorate degree in Finance who ended up as a janitor. According to him, his overseas qualification and work experience did not recognize here in Australia. Why? Oh why??? He can’t even compete with a Filipino bachelor-degree accountant. Honestly, before you “rock n roll”in the workplace, you will sign a waiver that you authorize the company/agency to conduct third party privacy disclosure/investigation to your qualification and work experience overseas. So far wala pa naman akong nababalitaang pinoy na peke ang papeles nang pumunta dito. Pero sa ibang nationalities? Sobrang dami.

To our fellow pinoys who aspire for Australian dream, we are very much welcome here. Masisipag daw at matityaga ang mga pinoy. We gained high respect and credibility at Australian workplace over time.

freelancer_babe · August 2012

Reply to @adelaide_boi: That's sooo good to know.

I've been reading around, here, on blogs and on other forums, and I have that impression that most Filipinos who want to go abroad wouldn't really dare fake their qualifications. We actually discourage each other to do such things.

aolee · August 2012

it's true... this study is in general. whatever race wherever you are... it applies to all but all i can say is nasasaatin parin how we cope with this depression thing.

just my opinion, kaibahan nating mga pinoy is.. that most of us are believer of God, we believe there's a supreme being watching over us.

we are know how to endure hardship in life plus we believe everything will turn out positive in the end

sabi nga sa bible, all thing work together for good to those who love God ad are called according to His purpose

All things there means good AND bad.

A good example is what happened to our fellow forumer Mariya.

They experienced a something hard but in the end, God is indeed good and managed to demonstrate his awesomeness!

Never lose hope guys!

Sushigurl · August 2012

Reply to @adelaide_boi: Sad to say, it was difficult finding a job from last year to date.
So far lahat ng kakilala ko, it took us 3 months or more to find a job. May paisa-isa na sinuwerte. and its not that type of job that we wanted, ika nga payroll job lang. Hopefully, this would get better.

adelaide_boi · August 2012

Reply to @Sushigurl: still fortunate, they were able to find job 3 months or more, kahit paisa isa lang. Waiting period is still "months". The study says 3 yrs of being unemployed or underemployed?

Sushigurl · August 2012

Reply to @adelaide_boi: Just to clarify, its 3 years of being underemployed to the principal visa holder (yes, this is reality) while 3 years or less of being unemployed to the dependent (such as wife, partners). Hard to believe, but its happening.
Competition is very tough.

faye · August 2012

Reply to @jaero: Thanks sa encouragement.
Godbless!

faye · August 2012

Reply to @Sushigurl: Ano po ba line of work mo?

simple_sabbey · August 2012

Reply to @Sushigurl: Ano po naging line of work mo? Same here, pinag-dadaanan ko dn yan ngaun. Mahirap talaga maghanap ng work, that's the reality here. I got a job pero good for 2 days Lang.. Pang-add up lang sa previous expenses ko. Pagkatapos ng 2 days, wala na naman ulit. =(

Sushigurl · August 2012

Reply to @simple_sabbey: Im a accountant. I think it would be a good advice to our fellow kababayan to check the Australian job market before you arrive. timing rin kasi e. In my case, bagsak ang stock market nun, but no choice. I arrived here a week before expiry of my initial entry. Mahirap ang panahon nun, hindi raw ma extend ang initial entry, its take it or leave it.. 6 months before expiry of my initial entry e nagta-try nako maghanap ng work at seek etc. wala tlg... Same with my peers at that period. And just to clarify, someone might not have said it directly but original po mga papers namin, minalas lang kami. pustahan pa kung gusto mo? Adelaide_boi :P and pray na hindi mo ma experience ang pinagdaanan namin. Some things are easier said than done. Just because maganda yung panahon ng arrival nyo and our situation is the exact opposite, doesnt mean to say na hindi kami madiskarte or peke ang docs namin. Please do not add insult to injury, as if our situation isnt bad enough.

Sushigurl · August 2012

Reply to @JClem: JClem, the situation now is really bad for most newcomer. As you said, bat patagalin ng 3 years-we keep trying believe me... even now that we got a "kahit na ano jobs", a week never pass by without applying for the same role that we previously have. local experience habol nila....takes time sabi nga ng mga agent. But you are right, God will provide what's meant for us IN his time. Allow me to share someone's experience. Both hubby and wife are Asians as well, not filo tho. Like me, they are also assigned for work outside their country before moving to Aus. Wife being the primary applicant moves to Aus with kids, and it took her 13months to get a job. She was telling us her story of her despair and agony. Luckily, hubby is still working oversea and can afford to send a fair amount of funds. However, after 13months of trying, she landed a Senior accountant's role without doing any entry level/junior role. After working on that job for a few months, hubby resigned from his role in the Middle East and move to Aus to joined them. As a Christian, she advised us to hang on, pray and never stop believing in God's providence. I believed this forum was created for us Filo, to share our experience so others can be aware and learn from it. I also think we should encourage each other and possibly point people to the right direction, instead of criticising.

freelancer_babe · August 2012

Reply to @Sushigurl: I don't think makakalusot ka with fake papers, given na malupit rin ang mga butas na dadaanan before getting the visa approved. Sabi rin nga eh, another person's luck might not be applicable to another.

Which is why I've opened this thread : Ways to apply to jobs in Australia

Noong nagtry akong tumingin ng jobs na fit sa akin (sa planned nominated skill ko) walang nagfi-fit sa akin. I worry kasi baka ganun, magmove ako then spend a lot and such tapos mahihirapan pa pala ako and be unemployed for quite a long time. mahal pa naman dyan.

Sushigurl · August 2012

Reply to @freelancer_babe: Thanks for your kind words.

simple_sabbey · August 2012

Reply to @Sushigurl: kelan ka dumating dito ska san naka-based? so far ngaun nakakuha ka na ng work related to your accounting skills?

Sushigurl · August 2012

Reply to @simple_sabbey: Me and my friends arrived Feb/March last year. took me 3 months to land a payroll job and 6 months after arrival to land an entry level accounting role. I'm Sydney based. how about u? accountant ka rin?

TasBurrfoot · August 2012

Hi Sushigirl,

I am curious, what was your job before prior to migrating to Australia?

Metaform · August 2012

Since you're atlking about the job market, can you tell us if the economy has at least improved in the last three years?

Sushigurl · August 2012

Reply to @psychoboy: I have been working overseas as a financial accountant for a power generation company, for the past five years prior to moving to Aus. I know my situation might sound incredulous to most. All i can say was im open and honest to say it out loud. Maramng kababayan are experiencing the same situation as I am, however they choose to keep it a secret. In the company im currently working with ( a global brand), halos lahat ng pinoy same situation like me. And mga 20+ kaming pinoys dito lang sa location namin, they tell me their story, sabi nga nila swerte pa nga raw ako sa panahon ngayon, that i was able to get a job with a MNC maski junior role, very tough raw kasi. and they knew a lot who have experienced far worst than I did. Bottom line is, the subject line to this topic is very true and I just want my fellow kababayan to be aware and prepare. At least with that awareness, they dont have to suffer the agony and depression as we did. Kasi ganyan rin ang line of thinking ko together with my friends, na since nsa "occupation on demand list" tayo e it would just be a breeze to look for work. Its up to you guys..

TasBurrfoot · August 2012

Reply to @psychoboy: I have been working overseas as a financial accountant for a power generation company, for the past five years prior to moving to Aus. I know my situation might sound incredulous to most. All i can say was im open and honest to say it out loud. Maramng kababayan are experiencing the same situation as I am, however they choose to keep it a secret. In the company im currently working with ( a global brand), halos lahat ng pinoy same situation like me. And mga 20+ kaming pinoys dito lang sa location namin, they tell me their story, sabi nga nila swerte pa nga raw ako sa panahon ngayon, that i was able to get a job with a MNC maski junior role, very tough raw kasi. and they knew a lot who have experienced far worst than I did. Bottom line is, the subject line to this topic is very true and I just want my fellow kababayan to be aware and prepare. At least with that awareness, they dont have to suffer the agony and depression as we did. Kasi ganyan rin ang line of thinking ko together with my friends, na since nsa "occupation on demand list" tayo e it would just be a breeze to look for work. Its up to you guys..

Hmmm, we shall keep you in mind... We are just starting; wife is the primary applicant and she has been an accountant/auditor for the past 8++ yrs. 4 of those were gotten here in Singapore.

All the best to you!

LokiJr · August 2012

In terms of employment, Australia is doing so much better than other developed countries...so I like to believe Australia is still an ideal place to land your dream job...It's just that andami rin kasing competition kaya nagiging mahirap...But don't lose hope

If we break the job market into segments, maganda pa naman ang chances makakuha ng trabaho kung galing ka ng finance industry...pinaka in demand pa rin ang mining, construction at engineering dahil sa mining boom...Ang mga galing retail at manufacturing ang taghirap dun ayon sa na-research ko