Ways to apply to jobs in Australia

freelancer_babe · August 2012

seek.com.au lang ba ang website na pwedeng tignan kung may opening?

Puro online application ba kapag nag-a-apply sa Australia?

Kasi sinubukan kong maghanap ng work sa seek.com.au. Medyo nalungkot ako sa nakita ko kasi halos senior level or puro very specialized skill ang nakita ko doon sa website.

Kung sakaling maapprove pala ang VISA ko at doon sa Australia na lang maghahanap ng trabaho, mahirap pala? Pero di ko rin maimagine kung paano nakakahanap ang new graduates, kasi wala rin akong makitang opening rin para sa kanila.

Unless siguro na may iba pang mga paraan para maghanap ng jobs like yung lumang style na newspaper ads at walk-ins?

Robbie1977 · August 2012

try mo careerone.com.au

mga ng-susuggest din kc dito s forum...submit klng then interview by agency after nun company interview kung ok ang feedback ng agent sau...di k nman mgbbyad s agency,company mgbbyad s agency.

mgnda kc sana bgo k pumunta me kumuha n sau, me mga advantage sau free accomodation k ng 2weeks, free airfare then sure n trabaho n ang pgpunta mo at nktipid kp.

me option din nman n punta kdun,personal apply and interview nkkpamili k at laki ng chance mo dhil andun kn.

goodluck sau freelancer_babe.

freelancer_babe · August 2012

Reply to @Robbie1977: thanks! i didn't see that suggestion, kahit ang dami ko nang nabasang threads dito. mas marami akong nakikitang suggestion to go to oz first tapos doon na maghanap ng job kasi daw mas favorable daw sa employers.

but another group of people tells also na hindi rin daw madaling makahanap kahit nandoon na.

so halos walang bayad pag sa agency dito right? mabilis ba kung coursed sa agency or mas mabilis pa rin ang kung lilipat pa rin sa oz?

Sushigurl · August 2012

Reply to @freelancer_babe: Depende sa course, so far ang rinig ko e mga IT yung iba nakakakuha ng work na via internet interview lang. In general to sis a but not applicable to all. Swertehan ba, In my case, accounting, mahirap ngayon. Kakilala kong mga engineers na hirapan rin. Kahit ano jobs muna just to pay the bills.

freelancer_babe · August 2012

Reply to @Sushigurl: oo nga ang weird eh.

Marami ngang opening pero halos puro specialized talaga ang skills - yung tipong di pwede sa mga konti ang experience. At least doon sa nakita ko sa seek.com.au.

Hmm.. so madali pala sa mga IT. Kausap ko lang kanina ang isang kaibigan ko na nasa IT. Nakakuha siya ng work after 2 weeks lang pagkarating sa Melbourne.

LokiJr · August 2012

As long as may granted visa ka na, effective yang seek.com.au

Kung wala kayo mahanap, mag part time na lang muna kayo sa Australia then habang nagppart time, saka kayo kusa maghanap ng full time na babagay sa credentials niyo

freelancer_babe · August 2012

Reply to @LokiJr: yun din ang nagpapa-complicate rin ng things.

oh wait, pwede ang temporary visa rin sa paghahanap ng work?

Metaform · August 2012

Nung March may nag-reply sa akin ng offer na agency na in-applyan ko sa seek.com (sinubukan ko lang naman magpasa sa ilang openings). Nung sinabi ko na magsa-submit pa lang ako ng visa application, hindi na sila nag-reply. I guess that answers the question kung madali bang makakuha ng employer na magi-sponsor papunta doon.

freelancer_babe · August 2012

Reply to @Metaform: ugali ata ang di magreply no? yun ang medyo di ko nagustuhan sa mga Aussies. Di mo agad alam ang status.

ellah · August 2012

hi sinu na po na interview ng agency dito ? pa share naman po ng tips ty

redsin87 · August 2012

check out this site kinukuha lahat ng avail. jobs sa iba't ibang job websites.

employment.byron.com.au/

i haven't really got to an interview as i can see they'll need police clearance(need mo nbi clearance mo to apply) and driver's license(i think P1 would suffice)

downzhift · August 2012

From time to time, I am submitting online application sa seek.com.au and I get few calls already but nothing solid yet. I have not started lodging my ACS assessment since kulang pa COE ko so try try lang baka maka-tsamba

By the way, I am from the VoIP/Telco industry.

maanrb · August 2012

Hi @LokiJr. I have a PR visa and arrived in Melbourne about a month ago. This is exactly my "action plan" before I got here. I'm applying in Seek.com.au and while waiting for interviews na in line with my field of work (IT), I'm also trying to get a part time job. Kaya lang, it's not that easy as well.

Can anyone give tips on how a person without experience apply part time / odd jobs in AU? Uso ba ang walk-in dito?

paris_hipon · August 2012

Ok yang seek.com I tried applying there online last year and I was overwhelmed by the responses. Some replied just after 2 hours I sent my resume and some requesting me for interview. Its just too bad last year wala pakong visa nun, and they said gusto nila me visa kana cuz they dont sponsor since it takes long time and too costly for them.

Now di kopa natrtry mag apply uli sa seek, still need to update my cv. Ill start applying by next week siguro, ill inform u guys if ever I can get a job offer dun hopefully. [-O<

maanrb · August 2012

Hi @ellah. I had a number of interviews with some agencies over the phone. Ang tip na nakuha ko from my friends who's been here a long time is to try to sell yourself kahit na let's say yung experience na hinahanap is not really your forte. Usually kasi di ba ang dami nilang nilalagay na requirements. kung nasa IT ka parang super programmer ang hanap which is bihira naman ang meron lahat nong skillset na specified nila. Our goal is to get past the initial interview from the agencies and get to the client interview na.

donking · August 2012

Reply to @paris_hipon: Hi paris, what is your occupation?

LokiJr · August 2012

@maanrb I think yung part time puwede walk in basta may naka-post sa establishment...yung sa full time, unless online, I heard from many forumers in Australia na malaking tulong ang mga agents or headhunters

mcris · August 2012

hi, newbie po ako dito sa site...i am frm sg. we are a family of 5, PR dito except the youngest son who's 10mos old lng. my hubby's senior EA sa isang multinational manufacturing company dito. im just wondering if theres a positive chance for us kun mag apply kami for migration? ive contacted 1 agent and positive nman ang reply nila (di kaya dhil sa potential fee nila?) which will be costly. we are willing to take the risk nman ang worry lng ni husband, un chance nya sa application palang ba ng visa ngayon? inputs nman please. nakita ko rin sa ibang site, kelangan nya rin ng assessment frm engineering at pwede sya khit nga sa EA, tama ba. he is not an engr grad, but computer science pero almost 7yrs of experience nya na etong sa manufacturing...wala nman prob sa amin if we will start all over again sa ibang bansa nman kc...

thanks in advance sa reply...

LokiJr · August 2012

@mcris, yes, all agents will give you some good news para maengganyo kayo kumuha ng serbisyo nila hehe...but some of them are really good though, so it might be worth the cost.

Dun po sa tanong niyo, importante po talaga makuha yung skills assessment...Yun ang unang hakbang sa visa application. Di naman siya ganun kamahal so you can just give it a try

You should have a more concrete plan once you have the results

Bryann · August 2012

Halos lahat po ng member ng site nakakuha visa without availing the services of an agent. Pero kung may budget for that why not. Hehe. Kailangan lang magbigay ng oras sa pagbabasa and backread lang dito sa forum. Really big help for me.

TinaR · August 2012

To all,

Don't lose hope in applying for a job. The reason why you guys are having a hard time is because the employment rate here is quite low and the Brit, Europeans and Americans are coming all at the same time. You need to understand how Aussies construct their CVs and indeed it is not easy to get a job because employers and agencies prefer to get someone on board who has a "local work experience."

Kaya nga mainam na una pag nag-aapply na kayo para mag migrate and likewise nag hihintay mag start na rin kayong alamin ano ba ang culture dito when it comes to job hunting. Pangalawa mag-apply ng mag-aapply then add more prayers because meron din yan for sure. Do not limit yourself sa kung ano lang ang current job title nyo. Wag mawawalan ng pag asa dahil ganyan talaga pag nagmimigrate unless sobrang galing nyo or sila ang nagpapamigrate sa inyo dahil sa special skills nyo (may mga nakakasuwerte sa ganun).

This sounds so silly pero have a look at yung hinahanapan na agency ng mga OFW dahil you will get an idea saan ang influx ng work.

When you apply for a job in Australia and you are outside less ang chance mo talaga. When an agent sends you an email be happy about it because you fit the requirements but the problem is you are not here in Australia so how can you prove whatever is in your CV. Now, if the agent calls you then you start selling your skills dahil it means willing sila na ihear out ka dahil tinawagan ka pa overseas, malamang walang makuha na iba. Ang chance mo dyan is how good your communication skills because the agent might pull some strings para magawaan ng paraan na mapunta ka sa next step i.e. meeting the resoure manager - client ng agent so hindi ka pa tanggap pag sinabi ng agent na tatawagan kita, it means pumasa ka pa lang sa agent. Now kung sakaling ayos ka pwede kang padalhan ng work visa but you need to tell them para maentice yung agent and client nila na talagang pa Australia ka by mentioning to them na nakalodge na or waiting ka na lang sa PR nyo.

Kakaunti lang ang nabibigyan ng mga ganyang chance and I will be honest sa forum na ito para walang sugar coating or false hopes. Usually people from IT and when I say people from IT these are the experts like gurus ng Oracle, SAP, Cognos etc. Even accountants natin neither mga doctors hindi binibigyan ng chance parehas ng mga IT gurus dahil nag-aaral pa ulit sila dito. Ang patok at walang 2 tanong tanong e mga fork lifter, machinist, midwife, caregiver, truck drivers, miners, blue collar jobs dahil yan ang kulang dito plus yan ang magaganda sahod plus benefits. SOme of you might say WHAT SILA???? Yes, sila na maliliit ang tingin ng Pinoy e malalaki ang tingin sa kanila sa mga bansa tulad ng Austalia in terms of sahod.

Anyway, maraming pwedeng hanapan like www.seek.com.au, www.careerone.com.au, www.mycareer.com.au, www.indeed.com.au, www.jobserve.com.au, www.jobsearch.com.au, www.alljobs.com.au

You can browse din directly sa mga following recruitment agencies www.michaelpage.com.au, www.finite.com.au, www.hays.com.au, www.aurec.com.au, www.robertwalters.com.au, www.peoplebank.com.au, www.citirecruitment.com.au and many others.....

Whatever you see in seek e nirerepublish lang sa ibang jobsites din pero you might as well go direct dun sa website ng mga recruiters dahil minsan sa kanila nagbibigay ng sponsorships kahit nakalodge ka pa ng PR mo. These two are different types of visas and hindi sila masama magkaroon ng sabay dahil mabilis ang work visa kesa PR.

Anyway, google nyo paano ba sumulat ng isang CV na pang Aussie, ano ba talaga hinahanap nila at papaano ba sumagot ng cover letter.

Again, wag mawawalan ng pag asa dahil normal yan sa nagmimigrate. Ang pagmimigrate e hindi continuity ng buhay nyo sa Pinas. Only few can do that. Pero wag mawawalan ng pag asa dahil madali magadapt mga Pinoy sa bansang pupuntahan.

Good luck.

Ta.

TinaR · August 2012

To all,

Magagalit sa akin mga migration agents nito but if you guys can understand plain english e bakit pa kayo magmimigration agent? Middleman nyo lang yan dahil yung point system nila o ginagawang scoring e available naman online. Lahat ng questions nyo masasagot ng isang booklet yun nga lang babasa kayo pero plain english lang.

Sorry po sa mga migration agents but they are not employed by immigation ng Australia ha. Sila po ay mga nagtatrabaho din na ang offer e services na they would make it sound na parang pag dumaan ka sa migation agent pasok ka na. Just imagine ilang migration agents nagsasabi na mag student visa ka para madali kang makakapasok e kasi yun naman talaga ang madaling paraan. Coordinator nyo lang ang migration agent. Pero kung nag IELTS naman kayo and you know how to communicate and mataas ang comprehension skills nyo please ipunin nyo na lang pera nyo kesa ibayad sa kanila. Spend a day or two or kahit 1 week or 1 months pa basahin nyo guidelines, yung booklet na readily available sa immi website. People here won't say WOW nag migration agent sya ....Honey, lahat yan nakasulat sa simpleng english na salita it is just a matter or reading it and comprehending. Mapapatawa pa karamihan dahil wasted money yun dahil walang power ang migration agent para sabihan ang immigration dito at pakiusapan.

The only difference between a regular Juan and an immigration agent is parati nilang binabasa ang mga notices sa immi websites and sila binasa at inarala nila all types of visas pero mapapansin nyo sa dulo puro stundent visa dahil ipapasa nyo lang requirements na kailangan ng school sya naman ipapasa nya naman pinasa nyo tapos sasagot school sa kanya na ipapasa din nya sa inyo. So pass the message ang tawag na sa kanila lately. Sabagay if you have the monies then sige pero hindi ba nakakainsulto yung part na simple english di masundan e hindi naman kakaiba ang sulat sa migration booklet na yan. Sayang ang bayad pang pocket money lang din yan.

Ta.

Metaform · August 2012

Tingin ko naapektuhan din nang matindi ang mga agents sa recent bottleneck that is Skillselect. Yung agent ng friend ko nagtaas ng fee sa initial consultation pa lang dahil marami ang matatakot na sumugal given na by invitation ang system ngayon.

freelancer_babe · August 2012

@Metaform mukhang natatakot nga ang agents nyan, kasi walang kasiguraduhan. maybe it'll put them out of business na rin.

freelancer_babe · August 2012

@TinaR Another person I met in another forum recommended a migration agent. Kasi complicated ang case nya (family migration) so she decided to hire such agents. Mostly rin daw ng mga kakilala nya na walang migration agents are single, so it's easier for them.

So... with that talagang taga pasa sila ng documents? Or could they tell at the start kung may pag-asa ka na sa IELTS at assessing body (VETASSESS, ACS, Engineers Australia, etc) before lodging a visa?

Admin · August 2012

Tingin ko naapektuhan din nang matindi ang mga agents sa recent bottleneck that is Skillselect. Yung agent ng friend ko nagtaas ng fee sa initial consultation pa lang dahil marami ang matatakot na sumugal given na by invitation ang system ngayon.

Totoo yan malaking problema ng Migration Agent tong bagong Skill Select. kasi sa skill select pa lang 50 -50 ang chance then dadagdagan pa ng malaking cash out pag magmimigration agent sila. the only way na kikita sila na nakikita ko e. kung mag sasama sama ang mga migration agent then i propropose nila sa gov ng au na lahat taong dadaan sa migration agent e exempted sa skill select

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-aolee

Admin · August 2012

@Metaform mukhang natatakot nga ang agents nyan, kasi walang kasiguraduhan. maybe it'll put them out of business na rin.

yeah tan din tingin ko.

TinaR · September 2012

@freelancer_babe

Hi, if you have the money go and get an agent but if you dont then learn to read the booklet.

May course dito sa Australia para maging migration agent. Inaaral nila ano ba ang migration laws, some of them register themselves as MARA agents (so for those who are using migration agents check nyo kung registered sila) others don't.

The mere fact that all requirements and steps on how to lodge an applicatio, how to check your "score" and do self-assessment are all in the immi website. It is just a matter of READING WITH COMPREHENSION and understanding that you will be sent to several websites. BUT, migration agenst are not employees of immigration. There so called "CASE OFFICER".

Ano ba ang magagawa ng migration agent sa iyo:
1. Hindi ka na magbabasa kasi may nagbasa na for you at aral pa, consequence bayad ka lang.
2. May taga interpret ka sa way na gusto mo marinig kung ano ang hinihingi pa or decision ng case officer mo, but hindi kayang saklawan ng migration agent mo ang utak o decision ng case officer na hahawak ng application mo dahil hindi empleyado at di uso ang suhulan pagdating sa immigration dito.
3. Kung di ka papasa sa isang klase ng visa ang ibibigay sa iyo e yung usual na binibigay plus of course mga inputs kung papaano ka magwork around sa requirement para makakuha ng student visa.

Many families opted to hire a migration agent perhaps they have the monies but for others - families or individuals sinundan lang ano ang nakasulat sa immi website. I am just wondering dahil kumukuha ng IELTS di ba so what's the fuss with reading the webiste with the booklet in pdf form. Nandun naman lahat plus links. You can even send emails sa mga gusto mong tanungan. Even pag may case officer ka na you can send them an email via sa website na ibibgay sa iyo. So I don't really see the reason why you need to shed thousands of dollars unless marami lang pera.

If you guys think that you will be treated differently here pag may migration agent ka e baka matanong lang kayo ng "why"..."is it hard to read english?"..."is it hard to communicate with several offices?"

Anyway, at the end of the day it is you who will decide and it is your money. I am just stating a fact and no offence to migration agents out there but they know the extent of what they can offer. Migration is a business for some and a dream for others.

READ WITH COMPREHENSION.

TinaR · September 2012

@admin

Not sure if you have settled here in Oz already but do migration agents have a voice in order to change the immi policies? As far as I can recall migration agents follow the monthly minor changes or huge revamp in migration laws with no exemption.

Migration agents read the immi website all the time and would interpret these changes to their prospective and on-going clients.

Main reason why Oz is not as lenient as before is because of population control. Dami na kaya dito 22M++ na tao dito plus parami ng parami dahil sa mga Europeans and other nationalities who can freely enter Australia either to get a job or stay here until the economy of their respective countries improves.

So kung ako si Pinoy, maglodge na kayo at wag na magpatumpik tumpik baka abutan pa kayo ng recession dito sa Australia pagdating nyo nagsi alisan na mga Aussie papunta naman sa China, Singapore, Thailand and elsewhere na malaki ang conversion ng pera. Magulat na lang kayo madami na mga Aussie sa Pinas e ang ganda kaya ng palitan ng dolyares as of this writing.

Ta