Australian Computer Society Skills Application

psalms5110 · May 2016

pasok ang developer programmer jan. But pataasan mo score mo kasi maraming demand, pero marami ding supply jan

catt · May 2016

Hello po hihingi lng ng advice sa mga matagal na po dito. I am planning to apply for visa 189 or maybe 190. Below are my credentials:

- BSIT degree from Mapua Institute of Technology Makati. As per checking, section 2 etong school na to.
- Total working experience is 4yrs 8 months.
- Started and still working at Accenture as Software Engineering Team Lead (from software engineering associate and so on)

Eto po mga questions ko:
1.Advisable or pwede na ba na magpaassess na ko sa ACS? Planning to choose Software Engineer as NOC ko. If everything works fine with the assessment meaning assessed as Bachelors degree and -2 yrs deduction lng. Or better ba na hintayin ko na lng mag August 25 for me to gain 5 yrs total working experience then saka magpaassess, para na din sa 5 extra points for 3yrs total skilled employment if ever ok ang assessment. Iniisip ko kasi kung di sya maassess as suitable dahil kulang ako sa working experience.

2. May chances ba na kahit section 2 ang school mo and IT ang degree mo naaassess sya as equivalent to diploma lng? Although I would say align naman yung job role ko ngayon with the description ng Software Engineer sa ANZCO site.

3. Regarding sa COE, may mga nabasa na ko na si Accenture ay di nagbibigay ng detailed jd sa COE although di ko pa natatanong to from HR. Pwede po ba makahingi ng sample format ng statutory declaration? Or kung may mga galing accenture dyan any advice pano ginawa nyo sa step na to?

This forum is a big help sa mga aspirants tulad ko. Thank you!

Xiaomau82 · May 2016

Hello po hihingi lng ng advice sa mga matagal na po dito. I am planning to apply for visa 189 or maybe 190. Below are my credentials:

- BSIT degree from Mapua Institute of Technology Makati. As per checking, section 2 etong school na to.
- Total working experience is 4yrs 8 months.
- Started and still working at Accenture as Software Engineering Team Lead (from software engineering associate and so on)

Eto po mga questions ko:
1.Advisable or pwede na ba na magpaassess na ko sa ACS? Planning to choose Software Engineer as NOC ko. If everything works fine with the assessment meaning assessed as Bachelors degree and -2 yrs deduction lng. Or better ba na hintayin ko na lng mag August 25 for me to gain 5 yrs total working experience then saka magpaassess, para na din sa 5 extra points for 3yrs total skilled employment if ever ok ang assessment. Iniisip ko kasi kung di sya maassess as suitable dahil kulang ako sa working experience.

2. May chances ba na kahit section 2 ang school mo and IT ang degree mo naaassess sya as equivalent to diploma lng? Although I would say align naman yung job role ko ngayon with the description ng Software Engineer sa ANZCO site.

3. Regarding sa COE, may mga nabasa na ko na si Accenture ay di nagbibigay ng detailed jd sa COE although di ko pa natatanong to from HR. Pwede po ba makahingi ng sample format ng statutory declaration? Or kung may mga galing accenture dyan any advice pano ginawa nyo sa step na to?

This forum is a big help sa mga aspirants tulad ko. Thank you!

1) Safe to wait until you have accumulated 5 years of work experience.
2) Since your 4 year degree is from a Sec 2 school, then it is assessed on a case by case basis. There is a chance that it may be assessed as equivalent to Diploma and not Bachelor’s degree. Technically, ACS will be checking if your grades meet he required Average grade of 1.00 to 2.00, (A to B, or more than 85%). But that would highly depend on the case officer
3) San country based yung magsign ng statutory declaration? PH?

catt · May 2016

@Xiaomau82 Okay sir/mam.
1. So while waiting for August, would you recommend to review then take IELTS/PTE in advance?
2. Ah i see. Yung pag miminus nila sa actual working experience (-2, -4 etc.) nakadepende ba yun sa degree and the actual job description and responsibilities mo? Or kapag naaasess sya as equivalent to Diploma automatic -4 and ibabawas sayo?
3. Dito po sa PH ang magsisign. Ok lng ba na associate manager ang position nya?

Thanks for these info!

guenb · May 2016

@Hunter_08 hello nabasa ko sa guidelines:

Diploma and Vendor Certification
 If your Diploma or Vendor Certification is assessed as having an ICT major which is closely related to your nominated occupation, you will require 5 years relevant work experience completed within the past 10 years or 6 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history (whichever provides the earliest skill date) to meet the suitability criteria.
 If your Diploma or Vendor Certification is assessed as having an ICT major which is NOT closely related to your nominated occupation, you will require 6 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history to meet the suitability criteria.

guenb · May 2016

@emtorno as per ACS guideline:

Bachelor Degree or Higher with an ICT Minor
 If your degree is assessed as having an ICT minor which is closely related to your nominated occupation, you will require 5 years relevant work experience completed in the past 10 years or 6 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history (whichever provides the earliest skill date) to meet the suitability criteria.
 If your degree is assessed as having an ICT minor which is NOT closely related to your nominated occupation, you will require 6 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history to meet the suitability criteria.

guenb · May 2016

@aros as seen on the guideline:

Non ICT Diploma or Higher
 If your qualification is assessed as AQF Diploma or higher and with insufficient ICT content, you will require 6 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history, plus a suitable Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL) application to meet the suitability criteria.

So a minimum of 6 years will be required for you to have a suitable assessment:

4 – Recognition of Prior Learning – (RPL)
The RPL application is for applicants with qualifications with no or insufficient ICT, or applicants having no tertiary qualifications.
6 years of full time professional ICT work experience in a field closely related to the nominated ANZSCO Code is required if you hold a Non ICT or insufficient ICT qualification and 8 years if you do not have any qualifications.

You are required to submit 2 Project Reports within an RPL application - ACS Recognition of Prior Learning Form.

Hunter_08 · May 2016

@guenb tama po ba pagka intindi ko yng "5 years exp completed within 10 years" basta within 10years dpat nka 5years related exp ka or else 6 years ibabawas sayo?

taylorsweet · May 2016

Hi all and @Xiaomau82 tinitingnan pala nila ang grades? Bale kz tumigil ako ng pag aaral, no diploma, madameng nakalagay sa transcript ko na either drop or failed, pano kaya yun? May chance pa kaya ako? 8yrs nako as software dev and architect. Hindi pa kami nagpapasa ng assessment sa ACS because troubled kami sino ang main applicant, much better ang work history ko compared to my husband kaso may diploma sya and better grades, ako wala . TIA!

guenb · May 2016

@Hunter_08 yes 5years pag within 10 or else 6 years anytime

Samantita · May 2016

@back_down 10 points lang bro, better take PTE-A, possible pang maka 20 points.

hello bro,

tanong ko lang po if pwede hingi ng link regarding getting a point sa school?

thanks

pinoycoder · May 2016

@Samantita http://pinoyau.info/plugin/page/accredited-schools

Samantita · May 2016

@pinoycoder : thanks bro. paano po malaman kung ilang pts ito? section2 ang school naman.

thanks po, very helpful ang link...

pinoycoder · May 2016

@Samantita

section 2 - either ma assess as Bachelor or diploma ang degree mo,

section 3- pag my PRC license ka, my chance kang maging Bachelor, pag wala.. automatic ng Diploma.

ganun nangyari sakin. sayang ang fee.

Samantita · May 2016

@pinoycoder : thank bro.

AQF Associate Degree with a major in computing ang assessment sa hubby ko. 262113 (Systems Administrator) ang nominated skills.

Age: 33 = 25pts
either take eilts or pte granted maka 20 pts.

pwede naba mag apply for EOI? in doubt pa kami sa pts bro.

thanks

back_down · May 2016

@pinoycoder tips sa PTE pano ka naka 20pts, kelangan ko din makakuha 20pts
san ka nag exam at self study lang ba?

pinoycoder · May 2016

okay if AQF Associate Deg = 10 points + age (25 points) = 35.

better take PTE-A para makakuha ng 20 points.

if nakakuha na kayo ng 20 points, EOI kayo ng visa 190 para 55 +5 points.

total nyo nun is 60 points.

@Samantita goodluck

pinoycoder · May 2016

@back_down back read lang dun sa PTE-A thread, dami tips dun,

yes self study lang. 20 mins per day.

Important advise siguro na mabibigay ko, familiarize yung pattern ng exam, tapos after nun stock knowledge nalang lahat and gaano ka ka proficient sa english.

patterns lang sya bro.

Samantita · May 2016

okay if AQF Associate Deg = 10 points + age (25 points) = 35.

better take PTE-A para makakuha ng 20 points.

if nakakuha na kayo ng 20 points, EOI kayo ng visa 190 para 55 +5 points.

total nyo nun is 60 points.

@Samantita goodluck

bro, clarification lang:

age 33 = 25pts
AQF Associate Deg = 10pts (school qualification? section 2)
Assessment = 3yrs & 1month = 5pts , tama ba ito?
PTE-A = 20pts ( if granted)
TOTAL = 60 + 5 ( visa 190) = 65 pts

tama po bah?

thanks

emtorno · May 2016

@guenb hi guen! Thanks sa reply.. Factor ba ang grades? Also, if bitin sa ict courses pwede pa din kaya yung 5yrs exp pero magundergo ng RPL?

back_down · May 2016

@back_down back read lang dun sa PTE-A thread, dami tips dun,

yes self study lang. 20 mins per day.

Important advise siguro na mabibigay ko, familiarize yung pattern ng exam, tapos after nun stock knowledge nalang lahat and gaano ka ka proficient sa english.

patterns lang sya bro.

@pinoycoder , salamat bro.. sa dami ng tips nakakalito ano susundin.hehehe..
Problema stock knowledge sa English kelangan magreview at madevelop..hehehe

guenb · May 2016

@emtorno as per guidelines wala nman namention regarding grades, more on from which school you graduated. Sa rpl, minimum 6years experience needed. Post mo yung qualifications dito so others can give input din

Hunter_08 · May 2016

@guenb Thanks you!

emtorno · May 2016

@guenb eto po.. San kaya magfall..

Degree: BS Industrial Engineering batch 2011
Work experience: Software Tester (Functional and Performance) aug 2011 - present

Others can also reply

thanks for the help!

Nica · May 2016

Tanong ko lang po pano kung possible po ako magnominate ng Software Engineer na ANZCO with the following:

1. Education:
BS IT (2004-2008)
University of Asia and the Pacific

2. Work Experience: (1 company lang po ito lahat)
a. Learning and Performance Support Lead (2014 - present)
main role: develops and maintains learning assets for new and existing software applications
b. Quality Lead (2014)
main role: projects' performance monitoring
c. Global Lead (2012-2014)
main role: lead level 1 application support globally
d. Support Team Lead (2011-2012)
main role: lead support team locally
e. Senior Software Engineer (2010-2011)
main role: monitor and resolve incidents, requests and change requests
f. Software Engineer (2008)
main role: SharePoint sites

mav14 · May 2016

@Nica As long as yung duties and responsibilities mo sa Employment Reference/COE aligned sa naka-indicate sa Software Engineer (ANZSCO Description), dapat pwede naman.

261313 - Software Engineer
Designs, develops, modifies, documents, tests, implements, installs and supports software applications and systems.

Description of Employment Duties:
 researching, consulting, analyzing and evaluating system program needs
 identifying technology limitations and deficiencies in existing systems and associated processes, procedures
and methods
 testing, debugging, diagnosing and correcting errors and faults in an applications programming language
within established testing protocols, guidelines and quality standards to ensure programs and applications
perform to specification
 writing and maintaining program code to meet system requirements, system designs and technical
specifications in accordance with quality accredited standards
 writing, updating and maintaining technical program, end user documentation and operational procedures
 providing advice, guidance and expertise in developing proposals and strategies for software design activities
such as financial evaluation and costing for recommending software purchases and upgrades

guenb · May 2016

@emtorno can't be sure but at least I can say na there's a big chance they'll tag you as aqf Bachelor, there's a big chance you'll be assessed as

Bachelor Degree or Higher with an ICT Major
 If your degree is assessed as having an ICT major which is closely related to your nominated occupation, you will require 2 years relevant work experience completed within the past 10 years or 4 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history (whichever provides the earliest skill date) to meet the suitability criteria.
 If your degree is assessed as having an ICT major which is NOT closely related to your nominated occupation, you will require 4 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history to meet the suitability criteria.
Bachelor Degree or Higher with an ICT Minor
 If your degree is assessed as having an ICT minor which is closely related to your nominated occupation, you will require 5 years relevant work experience completed in the past 10 years or 6 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history (whichever provides the earliest skill date) to meet the suitability criteria.
 If your degree is assessed as having an ICT minor which is NOT closely related to your nominated occupation, you will require 6 years relevant work experience completed anytime in your past work history to meet the suitability criteria.

So it's either they'll require you 4 or 6 years.

emtorno · May 2016

@guenb Ok thanks, Guen! Bale if ever magpaassess ako pagtungtong ko ng 5yrs mismo s work ko.. May chance na ok yung result no? Pano ba nagwowork un assessment? Bayad then pagka assess sabihin nila ano pa kulang?

kittykitkat18 · May 2016

Question lng po regarding statutory declaration..pde ba magsign dun ang dting collegue na higher position pro hndi na din nagwowork dun sa company. Thanks

guenb · May 2016

@emtorno read mo yung guideline found here https://www.acs.org.au/migration-skills-assessment/information-for-applicants "Skills Assessment Guidelines for Applicants" listed dian yung requirements. Syempre it's best na you comply with all the requirements before you submit application para in a span of 1 week my result na. Take note though it's still up to ACS if your experience will be suitable or not.