Australian Computer Society Skills Application

Chad · February 2017

@Superched I highly encourage you to be more specific with date using this format -> DD/MM/YY. Please refer to the below email that I got from ACS when I asked them to re-consider adding the two months that were not considered since my start and end dates were in MM/YYYY format.

"If you wish the experience to be continuous, we require the Start and Finish Dates of Employment in a DD/MM/YY format to prove continuous experience."

greatsoul · February 2017

@Chad yes you can claim 15 points sa Bachelors Degree mo...

regarding sa experience points, i can see may mga gaps sa experience mo,

for example,

08/10 - 09/11 (1yrs 1mths) Senior Software Engineer
10/11-02/13 (1yrs 4mths) Team Lead

bago ka nag Team Lead, may XXX days ka na break bago lumipat. So meaning hindi computed sa total days ng experience mo non.

You can Actually try to create EOI and you can see na hinde ka pa pwede mag claim for 8yrs. Kung makakaantay ka pa siguro ng 1 to 3 months, 8yrs na yan... Pero mataas na rin points mo if ever, sa exp points you can claim for 5 yrs exp.

Chad · February 2017

@greatsoul thanks for the feedback greatsoul. Actually that's continuous employment. Just change in career level. ACS told me that I should reflect the date in DD/MM/YY format to show that it was indeed continuous employment. I can wait but do I need to ask ACS to re-do the assessment to reflect the additional months?

greatsoul · February 2017

@Chad i see continuous pala.. hinde ba indicated sa coe mo na pinasa? kasi pag mag lolodge ka na ng EOI, need yung DD/MM/YY sa paglagay ng mga work experience ...

Superched · February 2017

@Chad hindi ko na kasi matandaan kung nirequired magprovide ng exact start date sa ACS at if ever nirequire man hindi ko din matandaan kugn ano nilagay ko.. balak ko sana imatch sa EOI ko tapos na kasi ako sa ACS assessment

DrAgKurt · February 2017

Hi all. Question lang. Mag papa re-assess kc ako sa ACS. Kso, recently nagpalit ng name ung company namin due to management legal entity transfer. Pero same position parin naman and continue ung tenure ko. Naka indicate din yun sa COE na nirequest ko sa company about the transfer entity. Ang question ko is, madededuct kaya ung years of experience ko dito sa present company ko because of that. Overall work experience ko sa present employer ko started August 28, 2012 tapos nag transfer ng entity last February 15, 2016. Salamat po in advance.

Old company name
Work experience: August 28, 2012 - February 15, 2016

New company name
Work experience: February 15, 2016 - Present

Heprex · February 2017

@greatsoul Confirm ko na din kung tama nilagay ko sa EOI:

Employment after April 2013 ang assessment sakin.

Company A - 01/04/2011 - 30/04/2013 - not related
Company A - 01/05/2013 - 06/03/2015 - related
Company B - 09/03/2015 - (blank) - related

tama no? hahaha

rich88 · February 2017

@Chad Bro, here are my responses:
1. Yes you can claim 15 points for education.

2. As of January 2017, you have 7 years 11 months experience creditted after ACS deduction. You can claim 8 years on February 2017.

3. If you continue your employment with your current company, you don't need to re-apply.

If you transfer to another company and you want the experiences under your new company to be creditted to your experience, then you need to submit a new application to ACS.

HTH.

greatsoul · February 2017

@Heprex yung Company B, kasama sa assessment ng ACS?
Ang naka lagay ba sa assessment mo, is after April 2013 ang related experiences?

greatsoul · February 2017

tama si @rich88 ang pwede lang na maclaim na points is yung mga companies indicated sa assessment ng ACS. otherwise, kelangan mag submit ng new application na nakalink sa previous assessment.

Heprex · February 2017

@greatsoul yup, kasama sa assessment yung company B. And yes, after april 2013 yung related.

greatsoul · February 2017

@Heprex tama yan bro hehehe!

Heprex · February 2017

@greatsoul maraming salamat. Masyado lang ako nag ooverthink. Hahaha normally kase dun lang dahilan ng refusal. Mabuti na ang sigurado. Maraming salamat ulit.

greatsoul · February 2017

@Heprex basta ikaw

chill lang bro haha

Ozlaz · February 2017

Question po. Halimbawa po may work experience ako, 2006 to 2008 tapos yun ang hindi counted, i mean yun ang na deduct ni ACS, pwedeng hindi na ako mag pa kita ng proof para sa work experience na yun? Thanks po.

Chad · February 2017

@rich88

hi Rich, thanks for the feedback. My problem is that the total experience that I can use to claim 15 points is 7 years 9 months based sa calculation made by ACS. I have been continuously working in my current company, but ACS reduced 2 months due to the transition from one career level to another since I reflected just the month. I don't know how to deal with this:

Emailed them about this, but they want me to appeal.

"I would like to request you to kindly consider to update the # of months for these line items:
From:
10/11-02/13 (1yrs 4mths) Team Lead
03/13 - 01/17 (3yrs 10mths) Associate Manager

To:
10/11-02/13 (1yrs 5mths) Team Lead (Since I assumed the Team Lead career level from the 1st of Oct 2011)
03/13 - 01/17 (3yrs 11mths) Associate Manager (Since I assumed the Associate Manager career level from the 1st of March 2013)

rich88 · February 2017

@Chad akala ata nila may 1 month gap ka. I think the issue is in the way you've written your COE. Sana d mo nilagyan ng gap na 1 month if continuous naman. I'm not sure if worth it pa mag re-appeal, 3 months na lang naman makakapag claim ka na ng 15 points.

dutchmilk · February 2017

@Xiaomau82

Software Developer sana ang nominated occupation ni hubby since yun na ang job niya since Feb 2008 and before that was sa callcenter, Technical Support.

dutchmilk · February 2017

@Heprex hi po ulit. dba you mentioned ECE ka din and hindi nag RPL, ano po yung nominated occupation nyo? at ilang years ang binawas sa work experience mo? and bachelors degree din bah yung education mo as per ACS? c hubby ko kasi Software Developer yung nominated occupation nya as that's his job since Feb 2008.

Heprex · February 2017

@dutchmilk Hello, 263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer ang nominated occupation ko, which is related talaga sa ECE. I got the bachelors result tapos 2 years lang deduction. Kung ako mag aassess sa hubby mo, Bachelors degree sya tapos ICT minor, 4 years deduction. Since konti lang units ni ECE na related sa software developer in my point of view. Since section 2 naman yung school nya. May ece license din ba sya?

dutchmilk · February 2017

@Heprex ic. unfortunately wala pong license. may advantage sana if meron?

Heprex · February 2017

@dutchmilk yup, may impact sya lalo na sa mga section 3 school.

dutchmilk · February 2017

@Heprex ic po. sana mag dilang anghel ka na 4yrs lng ang deduction ni hubby.

As of Feb 2017, 8 yrs and 9 months ang total work experience nya na related to his nominated occupation and lets say 4 years deduction, so 4 yrs and 9 months nalang ang matitira. 3 more months nalang sana para pasok sa 5 yrs. what the logic of ACS assessment bah? lets say if we push through with our assessment now and the credited yrs will only be 4 yrs and 9 months as mentioned, does it mean na by May 2017 we can claim 5 yrs of experience?

Heprex · February 2017

you can push through sa assessment, kahit di nyo na antayin yung May.

basta until may, same role, same company.

Pag dating sa EOI, yung latest work nya, just leave it blank lang yung end date, para tuloy tuloy ang pag count ng exp. so in May, mag auto update yun.

@dutchmilk

dutchmilk · February 2017

@Heprex ah ok po. salamat sa mga replies mo. naliwanagan mga tanong namin. wish us luck.

Chad · February 2017

@rich88 rich, iniisip ko baka iconsider sa EOI kasi isang company lang naman. What do you think?

diskartepinay · February 2017

Good Morning po. I just want to check kung tama understanding ko. I can claim 20 pts for my assessment which is 10pts sa experience at 10 pts sa AQF Diploma? Thank you.

Your skills have been assessed to be suitable for migration under 263111 (Computer Network and Systems Engineer) of the ANZSCO Code.

Your qualification has been assessed as follows:
Your Bachelor of Science in Information Technology from XXX completed
May 2006 has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Diploma with a major in computing.

The following employment after May 2014 is considered to equate to work at an appropriately skilled level and relevant to 263111 (Computer Network and Systems Engineer) of the ANZSCO Code.

Dates: 04/08 - 11/11 (3yrs 7mths)
Position: Enterprise Management Systems Analyst
Employer: XXX
Country: PHILIPPINES
Dates: 12/11 - 06/14 (2yrs 6mths)
Position: Network Operation Center Engineer
Employer: XXX
Country: PHILIPPINES
Dates: 03/15 - 07/16 (1yrs 4mths)
Position: Senior Technology Support Engineer
Employer: XXX
Country: PHILIPPINES

Heprex · February 2017

@diskartepinay Nope.

related skilled employment is after may 2014, dun pa lang mag count exp mo for points.

Educ - 10
work - 0 (mag 3 years ka sa may 2017, mag kaka 5 points ka)

diskartepinay · February 2017

Salamat ng marami Sir @Heprex. Makaka earn po ba ko ng 5 points sa may kahit na assessed as "Not Closely Related to the Nominated ANZSCO" yung current job post ko? Salamat po ulit ng marami.

The following employment has been assessed as not suitable.

Dates: 02/06 - 04/08 (0yrs 0mths)
Position: Technical Support Professional - Not Professional ICT Level Experience

Dates: 07/16 - 01/17 (0yrs 0mths)
Position: Support Engineer - Not Closely Related to the Nominated ANZSCO

Heprex · February 2017

@diskartepinay nope, yung total employment mo is from Feb 2006 to January 2017 right?

Total dapat ng exp mo is 11 years?

Pag AQF diploma ang assessment sayo, normally deduction ka ng 5 years. So dapat may natitira kang 6 years.

Kaso may not related ka pala na total na 4 years halos.

So tama may remaining kang 2 years, at magging 3 years this may.

And to answer, hindi kasama sa count mo ng claiming points yung not related.

I suggest, submit a review of application for those "not related" experience. sayang eh.
better collect a new set of COE that will match the code.