Defacto (same sex) dilemma

markier87 · March 2016

Anyone here who has a student visa and tried getting their partner while studying? Or tinapos nyo muna yung school nyo and applied for your 190/189visa then tsaka nyo pinasunod partner nyo?

Hi!
I'm on a student visa and kasabay ko ang partner ko pagpunta dito last 2014. If you're already here, sana nasali mo si partner sa application mo mismo kahit hindi siya kasabay sa pagpunta mo. As far as I know, dapat nasa record ng application mo na may de facto partner ka na kahit hindi pa siya pupunta dito sa Oz.

Hope that helps.

lucid2010 · May 2016

@lester_lugtu @markier87 mga boss im a newbie here and may mga few questions po ako and yung mga response po ninyo is sobrang helpful sa thread. Please sa iba din po na makakabasa if you can help me with this problem dont hesitate to reply. Although nabasa ko na po ung buong thread and naghahanap ng same situation na andun ako ngaun.

I am in a LDR relationship with my gf. Pareho po kmi nagwork sa KL before pero umuwi sya and then saka lang naging kmi nun umuwi sya pinas. We are 7months now and I believe she is the one kaya meron na kaming joint account sa pinas which is few months old. Meron din kaming condo na binabayaran pero ndi pa nakaturn over. Okay ang relationship namin on my side but not on her family side. Mejo discreet din kami and not everyone knows our relationship. Ang tanong ko po:

Are we valid and what kind of visa po to apply for a de-facto relationship? Nasa oz na po sya ngaun but is having a temporary 457 visa. Can she apply for this kind of visa and ano po ba sa tingin nyo ang magiging complications namin? Kung may masusuggest po kayo na Agent im open po for that.

As I can see i have these options:
1) apply for skilled visa pero ndi ako makapasa pasa sa english exam!
2) Wait for her to get PR pero 2 years pa daw sya pwede maka-apply which is sponsored by company as far as I can read.
3) Dont wait for 2years and apply for PR right away but she will shoulder the 3060AUD visa and then we will apply for de-facto.

Any thoughts please???

markier87 · May 2016

Hi @lucid2010!

To qualify for a de facto relationship, you should have stayed in one address for at least 12 months unless may anak na kayo. Proof of this will be very vital. Sorry but this part was not really clear on your post though.

lucid2010 · May 2016

@markier87 nope. We did not have a chance to stay in one address. its pretty much LDR. can we chat +60102341430 watsap/viber so i can ask for more details? BTW nakita ko ung IELTS mo anggaling mo naman!!!

lester_lugtu · May 2016

@lucid2010,

457 visa defacto din ako. Im the secondary. Pwede yan. Know first all the evidences that you need to submit. Gaya ng sabi ni markier kasama sa evidences ang coexistence in one house for 12months pero kung wala kayo nun ayos lang yun as long as you can explain properly your defacto relationship to them. Just say u havent stayed together. Besides may joint account naman kau very strong financial evidence un.
Gaya ng sabi ko gather first all those evidences u need to give them.

Ps. Kahit wala kaung living in for 12 months sabihin mo din na u bought together a property already and show them the papers indicating both ur names.

Super PS.
You dont need to hire an agent. Kau lang kaya nyo na yan. Basta basa basa lang online.

lucid2010 · May 2016

@lester_lugtu mam taga malolos kau nakita ko sa profile nyo taga sta maria ako un lang hehehe.

Aun nga can you give me insights i know nagbabasa basa din po ako can i give you a private message? para konting help naman how to start up on the requirements and the stat documents please?

markier87 · May 2016

@lucid2010
Hi! Will send you a PM sa viber then.

lucid2010 · May 2016

@markier87 ill appreciate d ping. will w8 for it thanks!

winz · June 2016

@mhej Hello..can you please pm me the agent that helped you? I'm in the same situation with others here. I really need advise. Thank you.

ssanjosee · October 2016

Hello po.

i have few more questions about the de facto relationship (same sex). I met my girlfriend online nung nagaaral pa ko sa UK. When I came back to the Philippines last year, we made the relationship official. To date, we've been together for more than a year living under one roof. Sa loob ng isang taon na yun, twice ako umalis ng Pinas para bumalik ng UK. una para umattend ng graduation ko and second for leisure.

Now, I'm about to lodge my student visa in Australia since kukuha ako ng masters degree which will start on November. sobrang rush na talaga kasi isang buwan na lang meron ako para i-process visa ko. I have no idea kung kelangan ko na ba siya i-declare sa visa application ko even if hindi pa naman siya sasama sakin pagalis - susunod na lang siya.

We can provide proof of relationship such as travel photos, lease agreement, photos with families, and phone call/video calls nung mga panahon na nasa uk ako.

My questions are:
1. Wala kaming joint account. How will I be able to meet the financial evidences?
2. We recently purchased a car nung June. Sakin po nakapangalan ang kotse. Meron kaming notarised affidavit na shared owner kami nung kotse at hati kami sa pagbayad ng monthly amortisation. Pwede po kaya naming gamitin na proof yon?
3. Also, nagsasama po kami sa isang bahay. Alam po ng parents ko san kami nakatira at nagsasama na kami pero I doubt na makapag provide po ako ng statement ng parents ko allowing us to live together kasi medyo hindi parin po sila masyadong open dun sa same sex relationship ko. pano po kaya pwede kong gawin dito?
4. Kelangan ko na po ba siya i-declare sa visa application ko kahit hindi pa siya sasama sakin?
5. Pwede ko po kaya siya i-declare na de facto relationship ko even if my visa application is financially supported by my parents?

Hopefully may makatulong po kayo sakin and if possible pahingi po ng list of documents that we may need once isama ko siya sa visa application ko.

Maraming salamat po!

ssanjosee · October 2016

hello everyone! i truly appreciate this thread. Anyway, i have few more questions about the de facto relationship (same sex). I met my girlfriend online nung nagaaral pa ko sa UK. When I came back to the Philippines last year, we made the relationship official. To date, we've been together for more than a year living under one roof. Sa loob ng isang taon na yun, twice ako umalis ng Pinas para bumalik ng UK. una para umattend ng graduation ko and second for leisure.

Now, I'm about to lodge my student visa in Australia since kukuha ako ng masters degree which will start on November. sobrang rush na talaga kasi isang buwan na lang meron ako para i-process visa ko. I have no idea kung kelangan ko na ba siya i-declare sa visa application ko even if hindi pa naman siya sasama sakin pagalis - susunod na lang siya.

We can provide proof of relationship such as travel photos, lease agreement, photos with families, and phone call/video calls nung mga panahon na nasa uk ako.

My questions are:
1. Wala kaming joint account. How will I be able to meet the financial evidences?
2. We recently purchased a car nung June. Sakin po nakapangalan ang kotse. Meron kaming notarised affidavit na shared owner kami nung kotse at hati kami sa pagbayad ng monthly amortisation. Pwede po kaya naming gamitin na proof yon?
3. Also, nagsasama po kami sa isang bahay. Alam po ng parents ko san kami nakatira at nagsasama na kami pero I doubt na makapag provide po ako ng statement ng parents ko allowing us to live together kasi medyo hindi parin po sila masyadong open dun sa same sex relationship ko. pano po kaya pwede kong gawin dito?
4. Kelangan ko na po ba siya i-declare sa visa application ko kahit hindi pa siya sasama sakin?
5. Pwede ko po kaya siya i-declare na de facto relationship ko even if my visa application is financially supported by my parents?

Hopefully may makatulong po sakin sa mga questions ko. I will appreciate it as well if may makapag pm po sakin ng possible list of documents that we may need once isama ko siya sa visa application ko.

Maraming salamat po!

ssanjosee · October 2016

hello everyone! i truly appreciate this thread. Anyway, i have few more questions about the de facto relationship (same sex). I met my girlfriend online nung nagaaral pa ko sa UK. When I came back to the Philippines last year, we made the relationship official. To date, we've been together for more than a year living under one roof. Sa loob ng isang taon na yun, twice ako umalis ng Pinas para bumalik ng UK. una para umattend ng graduation ko and second for leisure.

Now, I'm about to lodge my student visa in Australia since kukuha ako ng masters degree which will start on November. sobrang rush na talaga kasi isang buwan na lang meron ako para i-process visa ko. I have no idea kung kelangan ko na ba siya i-declare sa visa application ko even if hindi pa naman siya sasama sakin pagalis - susunod na lang siya.

We can provide proof of relationship such as travel photos, lease agreement, photos with families, and phone call/video calls nung mga panahon na nasa uk ako.

My questions are:
1. Wala kaming joint account. How will I be able to meet the financial evidences?
2. We recently purchased a car nung June. Sakin po nakapangalan ang kotse. Meron kaming notarised affidavit na shared owner kami nung kotse at hati kami sa pagbayad ng monthly amortisation. Pwede po kaya naming gamitin na proof yon?
3. Also, nagsasama po kami sa isang bahay. Alam po ng parents ko san kami nakatira at nagsasama na kami pero I doubt na makapag provide po ako ng statement ng parents ko allowing us to live together kasi medyo hindi parin po sila masyadong open dun sa same sex relationship ko. pano po kaya pwede kong gawin dito?
4. Kelangan ko na po ba siya i-declare sa visa application ko kahit hindi pa siya sasama sakin?
5. Pwede ko po kaya siya i-declare na de facto relationship ko even if my visa application is financially supported by my parents?

Hopefully may makatulong po sakin sa mga questions ko. I will appreciate it as well if may makapag pm po sakin ng possible list of documents that we may need once isama ko siya sa visa application ko.

Maraming salamat po!

pidiong09 · February 2017

Hello guys,

Anyone here who applied for Visa 189 with de facto (same sex) dependent? Ano pong mga documents ang nisubmit niyo?

pidiong09 · March 2017

Hello,

For those staying in Singapore, Ask ko lng kung pwede na yun tenancy agreement as proof pero hindi notarized? Wala na kasi sa SG un landlord nun HDB unit nmain so un renewal ng tenancy agreement ay ginawa lng thru email? Then kumuha lng kami ng Duty Stamp sa IRAS for the renewal ng Tenancy agreement? Hindi lng kasi kami ni partner ang tenants sa unit namin may mga iba pang tenants. Bali isang room lng rent tlg nmin. nakalist nman kami ni partner sa tenancy agreement then nakadeclare nman kami sa HDB as tenants. Hunigi ako nun copy from HDB from the landlord. OK lng ba as proof ito?

TIA!

SAP_Melaka · March 2017

@pidiong09 I believe that will be a strong proof. Do you have joint accounts, joint travel (eg. tickets, pictures etc.) then notarized statement from friends? You could include as well

pidiong09 · March 2017

@SAP_Melaka Thanks! Yup kakaopen lng namin ng Joint Account last month which is pahirapan pa. nakailang bank kami na napuntahan before finally nakakuha. Plan to lodge EOI by Nov pa nman para more than year after nmin mag live in. may mga travel din nman kami together at my mga upcoming travels pa. then un billing nmin same address nman. nagstart na kasi ako magcollect ng mga documents para di mahassle.

Un notarized affidavit from friends required pa ba? or pwede pictures with friends na lng(e.g travels with friends, invited from a friend's wedding)

Ang concerned ko lng kasi hindi open ang SG sa same sex relationship di ba? baka magkaproblema pag naggawa ako notarized affidavit? hehehe

pidiong09 · March 2017

@SAP_Melaka May sample tenplate ka affidavit from friends? Thanks!

SAP_Melaka · March 2017

pidiong09 said:
@SAP_Melaka Thanks! Yup kakaopen lng namin ng Joint Account last month which is pahirapan pa. nakailang bank kami na napuntahan before finally nakakuha. Plan to lodge EOI by Nov pa nman para more than year after nmin mag live in. may mga travel din nman kami together at my mga upcoming travels pa. then un billing nmin same address nman. nagstart na kasi ako magcollect ng mga documents para di mahassle.

Un notarized affidavit from friends required pa ba? or pwede pictures with friends na lng(e.g travels with friends, invited from a friend's wedding)

Ang concerned ko lng kasi hindi open ang SG sa same sex relationship di ba? baka magkaproblema pag naggawa ako notarized affidavit? hehehe

@pidiong09 I would not say "required" but "recommended". It's a proof from them to testify the genuineness of your relationship, because false declaration of a notarized document could be held them liable. What I did - include their affidavit, then pictures, then scanned copy of their identification eg. passport.

pidiong09 · March 2017

@SAP_Melaka Saan po kayo ng pa notarized ng affidavit? pwede po ba sa pinas kahit dito kami naka based sa SG? un mga pictures and un IDs po ba nun friends na gumawa ng affidavit need pa ba CTC o ok na kahit hindi?

SAP_Melaka · March 2017

pidiong09 said:
@SAP_Melaka Saan po kayo ng pa notarized ng affidavit? pwede po ba sa pinas kahit dito kami naka based sa SG? un mga pictures and un IDs po ba nun friends na gumawa ng affidavit need pa ba CTC o ok na kahit hindi?

@pidiong09 All are notarized in PH - as most of my friends are PH-based. In my case, I prepared statutory declaration (equiv. of affidavit in PH) as I'm based in Malaysia. IDs and pictures are not CTC-ed.

pidiong09 · March 2017

@SAP_Melaka Sir, Do you have sample template po ng statutory declaration? Pwede po makahingi? Thanks!

SAP_Melaka · March 2017

@pidiong09 I have, but if you are from SG the format would be different. I got mine from the internet, you could also find one

pidiong09 · March 2017

Hello po,

Ask ko lang po, ok lng po ba na Affidavit using PH format ang gamitin at sa PH din ipapanotarize kahit naka based kami ni partner here in SG?

TIA!

KimBokJoo · March 2017

Question naman po, I am in the process of preparing our docs para mainclude ko yung de facto partner ko.. Ayaw ko na sana magbayad sa agent and as per backreading marami naman po naging successful dito ng walang agent.

First question ko po, need ko po ba maglodge ng separate EOI sa skillselect for my partner? Or okay na yung saken?

SAP_Melaka · March 2017

KimBokJoo said:
Question naman po, I am in the process of preparing our docs para mainclude ko yung de facto partner ko.. Ayaw ko na sana magbayad sa agent and as per backreading marami naman po naging successful dito ng walang agent.

First question ko po, need ko po ba maglodge ng separate EOI sa skillselect for my partner? Or okay na yung saken?

Ok na yung sayo as main applicant @KimBokJoo

KimBokJoo · March 2017

Hello po, ask ko na din po, baka meron po kayong sample ng statements from family and friends. Para magkaidea lang po ako.. Kasi yung mga friends ko pag hinihingian ko, ayaw nila nung simpleng 3 questions lang.. mas gusto nila na may sample.. Maraming salamat po..

pidiong09 · March 2017

Hello guys,

Yun written statement ba from both partners need pa rin ba i pa notarize? or yun statutory declaration / affidavit of support from friends and family lang?Salamat po!

SAP_Melaka · March 2017

pidiong09 said:
Hello guys,

Yun written statement ba from both partners need pa rin ba i pa notarize? or yun statutory declaration / affidavit of support from friends and family lang?Salamat po!

@pidiong09 All - as these documents need to be legalized.