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475 Visa_ Secondary applicant

kellymacatokellymacato PerthPosts: 236Member
edited August 2012 in Employer Sponsored Visas
Hi po pede bong mag tanong kong may case na nauna mag entry ang secondary applicant.
Secondary applicant po kase ko 475 sa Mandurah ang punta nmen.. but sad to say mauuna ako kase separated na kame ng hubby ko (but not yet legally separated) balak ko sanang mauna this Aug or Sept and worry ko lang baka masita ako pag pasok ko kase alone nga ako at secondary lang. Meron bang case na ganito na pedeng pumasok muna ang secondary?
Hope to hear from you guys. Maraming salamat God bless..
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  • sohcsohc Adelaide
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    hmm tiningnan ko yung visa ng wife ko ang nakalagay "permitted to remain in australia for 3 years from date of first entry of the primary applicant".

    Tricky, better send an enquiry to DIAC.

    ACS 262113 / Arrived in Adelaide 19/02/12
    Employment started 19/03/2012
    Enjoying the land down under :)

  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    Reply to @sohc: hmmm eh naka agent kase kame eh.. so di ko alam kng pano ko tatanungin ang agent nmen? heheh hayz ang hirap ng ganito hehe..
  • k_mavsk_mavs Melbourne
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    Reply to @kellymacato: Pwede namansiguro na papasyalin mo muna yung Ex Hubby mo dun sa WA para lang maka enter na kayo agad kung di pwede yung scenario na yung secondary ang mauunang pumunta ng Oz. :)

    “We can make our own plans, but the LORD gives the right answer.”

  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    Reply to @k_mavs: waaaaaaaa AYAW KO! shemay pano ba to? hehehe
  • k_mavsk_mavs Melbourne
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    Reply to @kellymacato: :)) Bayaan mo na muna sya mamasyal dun mga 5 days lang siguro tapos pauwiin mo na. :))

    “We can make our own plans, but the LORD gives the right answer.”

  • sohcsohc Adelaide
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    @kelly sa website ng DIAC may contact us dun. Pwede ka magsend ng enquiry online, sumasagot naman sila agad nasubukan ko na dati.

    Or sana magka ayos pa kayo ng hubby mo especially if you have kids :)

    ACS 262113 / Arrived in Adelaide 19/02/12
    Employment started 19/03/2012
    Enjoying the land down under :)

  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    Reply to @sohc: tlaga meron don? cge nga try ko mag tanong..sana pede..
    sad to say pro di na maayus... hehehe
  • raycelraycel Melbourne
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    Lam ko d pwede mauna ang secondary. Sa akin kc when i was granted may kasama sya na frequently asked question at isa dun kung pwede mauna ang secondary,sagot dun NO. Kc ang visa ng secondary was approved base on the primary applicant.



  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    Reply to @raycel: wow tlaga? hayzzz then no choice kng ganon... kailangan ko nalang check sa agent nmen kng pede.. hayzzz
    maraming samalat...
  • smartbratsmartbrat Brisbane
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    @kellymacato They are right. In our case ako yung main applicant and my husband is the secondary applicant. On our visa grant notice, they specified that one of the conditions in his visa is: 8502- Must not enter Australia before specified person. The holder of the visa must not enter Australia before the entry to Australia of a person specified in the visa.

    I hope this helps.
  • hotshothotshot Sydney
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    @kellymacato : if you don't mind me asking....tanong ko lang po sana bakit mauuna kayo? ibig po bang sabihin e parang hindi na balak pumunta ng husband nyo any time soon sa oz?

    Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    May 21 2012 - lodged visa 176 (NSW) online application
    May 30 2012 - CO allocation
    Jul 16 2012 - Visa Granted! (IED Deadline: May 16, 2013)
    Jan 19 2013 - Arrived in Sydney
    Jan 20 2013 - Started our job hunt
    Mar 11 2013 - Officially became a "HOUSE-BAND" :)
    Apr 22 2013 - End of my "HOUSE-BAND" career :)

  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    Reply to @hotshot: kase po hiwalay na kame...
    well wala nman akong choice kng di sumabay sknya..
    salamat
  • pingpongpingpong perth
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    @ kellymacato.. Hi! i send you pm.. pls reply.. thnx
  • TotoyOZresidentTotoyOZresident Posts: 1,327Member, Moderator
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    @kellymacato ang ganda nyo. hiwalay na kau... ang maganda pag usapan nyo ng maayus about sa entry mo sa australia. Malay mo magkabalikan ulit kau.

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  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    hi tanong ko lang nakapasok na kse ung primary so pede na ako mag entry diba? hindi pa ako mag question sa immigration?
  • smartbratsmartbrat Brisbane
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    I think ok ka na mag-entry. Yun lang naman restriction ng visa mo e, dapat sabay or mauna mag-initial entry yung primary. Hope this helps.
  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    @smartbrat thanks, mag entry na kame.
    God bless
  • JanChloeJanChloe Sydney
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    @smartbrat thanks, mag entry na kame.
    God bless
    hi . good luck po..
  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    hi, may tanong po ako, nakapag entry na kme last week at wala nman naging question samen kse nakapasok na ung primary nmen last 2 months. ang tanong ko is what if wala ng balak bumalik ang primary? mag kakaproblem ba ako in the future to apply PR samen ng baby ko? hope to hear some advise. thanks
  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    @kellymacato - ohhh... very interesting question... i hope other members can answer...
    will be checking information and will reply here... ;)

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    @lock_code2004 salamat.. i really need some advise baka kase masayang lang ang punta ko kng di din pala ako mag kakaapply ng PR kse wala na ng balak ang primary bumalik.. :D
  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    @kellymacato - isa isahin po natin:

    Issue 1: may obligation clause sa 475 about the primary/dependents should live and work in the regional area, tapos pag hindi na-satisfy, hindi magiging eligible for PR application..
    - i've read in some discussions na pwede naman maging PR applicant ung 475 secondary visa holder, assuming ma-satisfy ung requirements (work and live in regional area)
    - so kung magwowork ka fulltime, at ma-satisfy mo ang mga obligations, then pwede ka mag apply for PR (as the primary applicant)
    - pwede din magpa-sponsor through an employer

    Issue 2: Primary visa holder not in AU
    - the visa was granted on the merit of the primary applicant.. and technically kung naging invalid na ang visa ng primary, the same applies for the secondary/dependents
    - now, this is the main issue... im not an expert.. but im thinking if declarations (on both sides) can be presented sa PR application mo, as evidence na hindi na on-going ang relationship ng primary at secondary
    - baka maging main issue din ang entry dates, dahil nauna sya, sumunod ka, tapos hindi na sya nag-stay...

    Again, my opinion, there are other pathways:
    - pwede din magpa-sponsor through an employer
    - or apply as indepedent skilled migrant (through EOI/Skillselect), advantage is you have lived and worked in Regional AU, so mataas ang points mo dun sa work experience..
    - kung wala sa SOL ang skills mo, then mag-aral ka muna ng mga in-demand skills
    - marry an Australian PR/Citizen

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    Wow ang daming options pero nakakatakot din talgang sumugal. Best way cguro is mag pa sponsor ako sa employer?
    Isa pa may brother ako sa Mel na mag PR na this feb I don’t know kng pede nya ako sponsoran lalo na kng wala namn sa SOL ang skills ko.
    Hayz. Or pede din ako file ng abandonment sa gov na primary abandoned us?
  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    @kellymacato: these three threads are somehow related to your query:

    http://www.pomsinadelaide.com/forum/adelaide-migration-issues/23441-475-visa-who-has-work.html

    http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=641750

    http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=702050

    but for now, make sure na work and/or study, para may bala ka pag nasatisfy nyo na ang obligation and pwede kana apply ng PR...
    goodluck..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
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    @lock_code2004 maraming salamat.. mag hahanap na talag ako ng work pag balik ko don. God bless
  • dhey_almightydhey_almighty Perth
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    @kellymacato @lock_code2004 uhm, paano kung ganito ang situation...ako ang primary applicant then ung ex wife ko ang secondary?
    magiinitial entry na ako...but i dont want my ex wife to go to oz...for reason so personal na nakakainis...ano ang dapat kong gawin?

    thanks

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    October 16, 2012 - Submitted CDR to EA
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    March 8, 2013 - Applied WA SS
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    May 31, 2013 - Submitted Visa Application (with everything; PCC Saudi, NBI, Marriage certificate, etc)
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  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    @kellymacato @lock_code2004 uhm, paano kung ganito ang situation...ako ang primary applicant then ung ex wife ko ang secondary?
    magiinitial entry na ako...but i dont want my ex wife to go to oz...for reason so personal na nakakainis...ano ang dapat kong gawin?

    thanks
    pag hindi sya nka pag initial entry, magiging void ang visa nya (as secondary applicant)..
    so kung ayaw mo isama, hayaan mong mag expired ang initial entry nya..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
    Posts: 236Member
    Joined: Oct 13, 2011
    hi ang alam ko basta naka entry ka na eh pede na syang mag entry din at mav stay dito.. kase ako secondary din dba? pro eto ok na ako dito mag apply na ako ng PR ko next year
  • muffles127muffles127 Sydney
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    @dhey_almighty hmm why don't you try informing immigration about the breakdown of your relationship?yan eh kung gusto mo talaga macancel yung visa niya since secondary lang naman siya and she was able to get the visa because you're together. Since nagbreakdown relationship niyo parang in a way may change in circumstance na. Opinion ko lang naman yan.
  • kellymacatokellymacato Perth
    Posts: 236Member
    Joined: Oct 13, 2011
    @dhey_almighty naalala ko pala ung ex ko dati eh he wants to cancel ung visa nmen mag ina.. ang sagot ng agent nmen sknya is he needs to pay i think $2000 aud pra ma cancel lng ung visa nmen. But check na din sa immigration to be sure.
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