Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

SirLuis · October 2017

Hi sa lahat ng engineers!

Patulong naman po.
I'll try to explain my whole case here.

I'm a civil engineer trying to prepare my files for EA Assessment.

Right now, I have 65 points total but work experience of 3 years is not yet included, so there is a possibility for a maximum of 70 points if everything goes well.

First work (Philippines 1 yr and half)

Primary Documents- no problem
Secondary Documents- no problem

Current work ( Japan almost 2 yrs experience) -

Primary Documents- no problem

Secondary Document- dito na magkakaproblema.
Ito po ung latest na requirements for secondary documents:

Optional po yung 2.1 & 2.2 or 3.1 & 3.2

2.1 ITR
2.2 SS Insurance / Superfund / Provident Fund / Retirement Report

3.1 Work Permit/ Residence Permit
3.2 Official Contract Document from Ministry of Labor includes
wage, title and employer name.

2.1 & 2.2 or 3.1 & 3.2 should include employer's name and employment period.

Ang company ko po dito is di nagbabayad ng tax, umiiwas po sila magbayad kaya
wala kaming ITR, at wala kaming benefits such as SS Insurance etc.
Ang meron lng po ako work permit/ residence card pero ang residence card dito sa Japan
hindi included ang name ng company, not sure sa iba. Meron di po akong payslip and bank account.

Hihingi po sana ako ng advice kasi nabasa ko di dw po pwede yung ganitong case sken.
Or baka may idea po kayo sa pwede kong gawin.

1. Baka po may general opinion or advice po kayo. Please share po.

2. Ang isa sa naisip ko yung isang experience nlng po ang ipaassess kahit 1 yr and half lng para lang may masulat sa career episode. Since 65 points n din naman.
Pwede po kaya yun?

3. Kung di na ko magclaclaim ng 5points at icoconsider lng ung 1st job which is only 1 yr and half experience, need pa din po ba magbayad RSEA?

4. Magkakaron kaya ng issue kung di ko idedeclare ung work ko dito sa Japan?

Patulong po! Salamat po sa sasagot!

jhazz01 · October 2017

Hello all, i confirm ko lang po yung nabasa ko na by 01-nov EA will accept PTE for English test.

jazmyne18 · October 2017

@jhazz01 not sure sa exact day but yes, November, mag-accept na sila ng PTE.

jhazz01 · October 2017

@jazmyne18 thanks! Sorry may follow up question ako need ba ng RSEA or CDR assessment is ok na to submit eoi?thanks

jazmyne18 · October 2017

@jhazz01 no. Walang needed document or kahit na ano sa EOI, for tallying lang ng idedeclare mong points.

Pero you might need RSEA sa visa lodgement.

jhazz01 · October 2017

@jazmyne18 Pero need po i key-in ang skills assessment at english result sa eoi? magpapa assess sana ako sa EA not sure if need both CDR at RSEA kasi medyo mahal.if cdr lang kaya ok na?salamat!

jazmyne18 · October 2017

@jhazz01 yup! Kelangan un, once magpasa ka ng CDR, yung outcome ang skill assessment. RSEA kasi is for work assessment naman. Halimbawa, gusto mong iparelevant assessment kay EA na tama ung claimed experience years and occupation mo. Gets ba? Hirap explain. Haha!

jhazz01 · October 2017

@jazmyne18 -i see, thank you! hope i can complete my cdr real soon.

jazmyne18 · October 2017

@jhazz01 goodluck!

zballesteros · October 2017

question po sa lahat ng engineers na nakapagpaassess na sa EA,
medyo magulo p din kasi although naexplain na ng konti ni mam @jazmyne18
one of my friend RESPALL ang agency e nag pa RSEA pa although complete naman ang papeles at relevant naman ang experience.
sayang din kasi almost 300 AUD ang RSEA. 12k php din.

1. my questions is kelangan ba tlga ng RSEA kung confident k naman sa experience mo na relevant sa nominated occupation mo?

2. anong advantage pag nag pa RSEA?

3. kung di mag pa RSEA ano pwede mangyre?

4. sino po dito ang mga nag pa standard CDR lang without RSEA?
please share kung bakit di kayo nag pa RSEA.

Salamat po sa lahat!

RheaMARN1171933 · October 2017

@fotfot I usually tell my clients to provide employment reference letter, payslips, tax and sss records

zowdyak · October 2017

Yes sir.. Will only use it as guide.. By the way, which of those cdr's you sent are the revised?
Thank you..

jangjaca · October 2017

@zballesteros i will answer your questions based on my experience and base na din sa mga nabasa ko dito sa forum dati.
1. kung confident ka na kaya mong iprove ang lahat ng claimed relevant experience mo, you may opt not to do RSEA.
2. it will help you prove to dibp all your claimed points on experience.
3. your visa can be denied if dibp thinks you overclaimed points.
4. i did only the standard cdr. at that time my reasons of doing only the standard cdr are:
4.a i was confident that i have enough documents to prove all my claimed relevant
experience to DIBP.
4.b i did not want EA to deduct some years of experience which they usually did.
4.c to save money.
hope this helps. in the end it's your own decision to make.
good luck on your application.

zballesteros · October 2017

@jangjaca hello! salamat po sa reply!
I am just curious, i checked po your signature.
if you don't mind ask ko lang bakit natagalan yung timeframe?
halos 5 months? ano pong nirequest nila?
may problem po ba sa career episode nyo?
18/10/2016:EA REQUEST FOR ADD.INFO
07/03/2017:EA CDR RESUBMITTED

zowdyak · October 2017

@jangjaca, can you share your cdr please.. For reference lng po as civil engineer.
kindly send to my mail. [email protected]
thank you.

zowdyak · October 2017

Kindly include na din yung cpd at summaries together with your career episodes. please.. thank you.

jangjaca · October 2017

@zballesteros
kaya natagalan sa pagpasa ng cdr kasi i took my time when revising my cdr, 6 months naman binigay na timeframe sa akin to resubmit it. but to give you an idea, eto comment sa CDR ko:

Please consider this feedback relevant to all CDRs.
To support your CDRs, please present your exposure into civil engineering methodology details.
Show your considerations within general civil engineering design methodology on your projects to understand your engineering value.
For example. What would you do to confirm that the design options are aligned with the project constructability and project program requirements? Place a particular emphasis on the nature and timing of the interface between structures and environment construction.
Give details of:
- Your design review that you completed to determine which structures were required and the appropriate design standards that were applicable;
- Demonstrating your consideration of geometric design issues in the context suitability;
- Your communication with other consultants such as getting geotechnical, environmental, architectural, landscape advice;
- What unusual assessment was completed by you? For example, an assessment of the proximity to existing traffic and loadings during construction to determine their influence on design; or Identification of likely constructability issues, environmental and social constraints;
- Concept design calculations that were carried out by you to determine the suitability of solutions and to confirm capacity of the permanent layouts;
- Your input into integration of the civil design with urban design strategy;
- Ethical concerns, such as Safety in Design workshop and Risk Management workshop; reviews, following the completion of the initial designs, a round of reviews including peer review, inter-disciplinary reviews and construction reviews; finalisation of the concept layout – final concept designs that were completed following receipt of comments from a range of reviewers.

jangjaca · October 2017

@zowdyak
Sample CDRs sent. Please use the samples only as guide or template para d po mareject ang CDRs nyo kasi One of the main reasons why EA rejects a candidate’s CDR is because of ‘Plagiarism’.

zballesteros · October 2017

@jangjaca thank you sir! pwede po makahingi copy ng cdr nyo?

jangjaca · October 2017

@zballesteros sample CDRs sent. good luck po sa application nyo.

jeplii · October 2017

Hi po, ginagawa ko po yung CDR ko po ngayon.. Tanong ko lang po mga ilang pages po lahat2 yung documents ng CDR? approximate lang po....tsaka pwedeng ako lang yung mag process sa EA? or recommended mag agent para walang problema? Thanks po sa sasagot

cacophony · October 2017

@jeplii Wala po sa pages ang sukatan. Nasa number of words po. I believe it's between 1000-2500. Better check sa new MSA. Yup pwede po kayo lang ang magprocess sa EA, no need to hire an agent. Most of the professionals here DIY lang po

chyrstheen · October 2017

hi everyone, meron po ba sa inyo nakaencounter ng ganitong comment from CO?

"Please provide evidenc e that will support your career episode (except the reference letter that you already provided) like a ppreciation from your superior, customers, professor through emails, awards, etc."

would like to ask for advice. hindi na kasi ako connected sa company so hindi ako makakakuha ng previous emails. saka usually verbal acknowledgement lang naman ang nangyayari. TYIA!

zballesteros · October 2017

hi guys regarding sa submission for EA,

my company will create a detailed COE for me
but with regards to the job description,
ok lang ba kung ako gumawa tpos sila na lang ang maglalagay ng company letterhead at pipirma parng ganito

company letterhead to be paste by employee

Name of Employee
Position of Employee

Duties and Responsibilities
1.
2.
3.

Endorsed by:
sign by manager
Department Manager

Noted by:
sign by manager
HR Manager

need pa kaya ng pirma ko? or khit sila nalang?

salamat sa sasagot.

jazmyne18 · October 2017

@zballesteros hello! Bale sa first company ng asawa ko, nagbigay kami ng duties niya. Pero ang sabi ng HR nila, pag yun daw need nila ipaverify pero meron daw silang copy ng job description niya (ung pinopost sa jobsites), if okay daw yun kay hubby, yun na lang daw ang ilalagay nila. Turns out, okay naman at kumpleto.

Sa second company naman niya, sa agency kami humingi, kami ang nagbigay ng lahat ng details pero purely details lang. Sila pa rin ang gumawa ng mismong letter.

zballesteros · October 2017

@jazmyne18 hi mam thank you po sa reply.

need po ba letter style talaga?
ok lng po kaya yan gnwa ko?
eedit p naman po yan ng HR, lalagyan nea siguro ng letterhead
then ipapapirma sa HR manager at sa boss ko.

jazmyne18 · October 2017

@zballesteros yup, letter style pero ung duties, nakabullets. Okay lang gawa mo pero ung tanong talaga diyan is papayag ba sila? Like sa first company ni hubby, ayaw nila. Hehe.

jeplii · October 2017

@cacophony Salamat po sa sagot po boss.

Ginagawa ko po yung CDR ng Electronics Engineer kung may same po na nagawa if ok lang sa inyu e share po. pa send po ako para may reference po ako sa pag gawa po..Salamat po

ito po yung email ko : [email protected]

Salamat ng marami

RheaMARN1171933 · October 2017

@zballesteros this is uasually the case naman e. My clients would do the draft letter tapos we double check if tama format and na-addressyung tasks ng occupation based dun sa standards ng Australia. Pag ok na, that's the time they go to the employer to have it signed. Syempre yung employer will verify the job tasks written there Kung tama naman, they will sign it, Kung imbento yung tasks of course they won't. You can't expect the employer/supervisor to know exactly what's needed to mention and Kung anong format ang kailangan sa that's expected talaga from the person asking for the reference letter.

chyrstheen · November 2017

@zballesteros ganyan din ginawa ko pero in letter format. i included my employment details like date hired/ last day of job. pinalagay ko rin kung ilan ang working hours ko per week (kasi parang they need to know if full time or part time). i also included details on the salary and total annual compensation package. hindi na kelangan ng signature mo, kahit yung sa company na lang. nilagyan ko lang nung email address at direct phone line nung signatory para sure