De facto - Partner skill assessment

Lermie · November 2017

Hello Guys,

Good Day!

I'm not sure if this question was already asked in this forum (ni check ko wla talaga ako Makita eh ☹ ). Me and my boyfriend are planning to submit skill assessment (ACS) hopefully next month. My boyfriend is the main applicant and we are planning na kunin nya yung 5 points sakin (partner skills). We are both programmers so same yung skilled occupation list namin.

My Questions are:
1. Need ba yung work experience ko more than 5 years? As per understanding yung work experience is minus 2 years. Or is it as long as my school degree match with my job description?
2. Do I need to get 60 points in my skill assessment even though dependent lng ako?

Highly appreciate if someone can answer my questions.

Thanks a lot and God Bless.

Heprex · November 2017

Hello,

1. Several factors affecting your assessment. Like, yung school category, if section 1 and closely related sa occupation, you will need at least 2 years of exp, if not related sa occupation, possible need ng 4 years. If Section 2 or 3, you need to have a PRC license para makuha ang bachelors degree, if not you need at least 4-6 years of related exp. Kung hindi naman ICT related course, at lease 6 years of exp.

2. hindi kelangan points for skill assessment, yung primary lang need maka reach ng at least 60 pts to qualify sa EOI, you can use your assessment as partner points to claim additional 5 points.

fugu.umeda · November 2017

Hi @Lermie , de facto rin kami ng boyfriend ko (girl ako hehe), and done na with ACS. I agree with @Heprex's points.

Just to add.. As the partner of the main applicant, the only thing you need to worry is AT THE LEAST - i-acknowledge ni ACS ung role mo.

Kasi, kahit 0 points na makuha mo after ACS assessment, meaning kulang pa work experience, or nasa ibang school category uni mo, and say, andaming deductions at umabot ka na to zero point - hindi talaga eto ung problem mo.

As a dependent, 0 point is better, than be assessed by ACS na - the list of your submitted work job description does not match the skill you are applying for. In this case, di pwedeng magclaim si primary ng points from you.

Lermie · November 2017

Hello @fugu.umeda.

Super thanks po sa answer.

(girl rin po ako..hehehe.) Both of us are IT graduate (clasm8t po kami 1st year to 4th year nung college nang bf ko) at kami po dalawa ay programmer. Pero yung work experience ko kasi is palipat lipat ako nang work kaya cya yung main applicant kasi 2 lng nagging company nya tas puro long term..Currently mag 5 years na cya sa company nya ngayon as a programmer rin. Then almost 3 years yung sa pilipinas.

Nung pag submit nyo po nang skill assessment para maka claim yung partner nyo nang 5 points may option bah dun naka lagay na dependent ako? To make sure na maka claim si primary nang points ko. hehehe..

Yung total work experience ko is 6 years...Pero not sure if counted yung mga short term (contractual). Same Job rin po, programmer (software developer). As of now po my COE na ako sa company ko with full job description. Dapat e lagay ko po lahat nung work experience ko? Tama po bah? hehehe..Super thanks po.

God Bless!

Lermie · November 2017

Sorry po.. May follow-up question nga po apala ako.

Upon submitting for Partner skill assessment ano po yung mga documents needed?
Yung sa friend ko po kasi (Pero main applicant cya) is nung nag pa skill assessment cya is it yung mga documents na ne bigay nya.
- COE with full job description (ctc) sa lahat nang work experience
- Passport (ctc)
- TOR (ctc)
- Diploma (ctc)

Question po, need po bah ako mag submit rin nang proof na matagal na kami nang bf ko? or yung mga documents that I have mentioned above is okay?

Thank a lot po sa answer.

Heprex · November 2017

@ceinau15 yep, for ACS lang yun. Sa ICT kase need mo ng certain amount of exp para ma-assess na suitable. Ibang situation ang sa EA. Pero same concept lang, dapat suitable ang assessment.

Lermie · November 2017

Hello @Heprex, tanong ko lng po if yung mga documents para mag pah assess as partner is included yung proof na matagal na kami nang bf ko? or yung sa work expr, diploma, tor at passport lng po? Thank you in advance!

Heprex · November 2017

@Lermie hello, sorry di ko po gets yung tanong. Sa visa application pa po ang proof ng de-facto. Individual po ang assessment.

Lermie · November 2017

@Heprex ai..sorry po..medyo nakakalito talaga ako mag tanong..heheh..so yung sa assessment po is same lng kami nang mga documents na e submit nang bf ko (ako yung dependent nya cya yung main applicant)? Tama po bah?

Heprex · November 2017

@Lermie Yep, kung sa assessment lang naman, independent sya. same lang kayo ng documents na need iprovide.

Lermie · November 2017

@Heprex Super Thanks po!!

Mag papah assess na kami by 2nd week of Dec hopefully.. Thanks po ulit..God Bless!

RheaMARN1171933 · December 2017

@Lermie I think you've got things mixed up. Basically, you have to go through stages before you can apply for the visa. First, you have have your skills assessed to be equivalent to Australian skills then you lodge an EOI to get invited. This is where you need to pass the points test. Once you get an invite, you have 60 days to lodge your visa application. Hope this helps.

Kennikki · January 2018

Hi @RheaMARN1171933, question lang po. I am the principal applicant for Visa 189. My ANZcode is 263111. My wife is a Chef for 4 years already. Both profession are listed sa MLTSSL. Need po ba nya rin mgbayad for the skill assessment nya? In my case sa ACS po ako and sya for the Culinary. Need ko po kasi additional points from partner skills.

Kennikki · February 2018

@Heprex question lang po same sa previous question ko for partner skills. Ako po principal and IT and wife ko po is Chef. As partner skills po, need din po ba sya maassess ng TRA before EOI?

Heprex · February 2018

@Kennikki Hello, need ng positive skill assessment to gain partner points. need din ata ng english prof. So need nya muna mag TRA bago ka makapag EOI.

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/supporting/Pages/skilled/partner-skills-documents.aspx

RheaMARN1171933 · February 2018

@Kennikki she needs to satisfy 3 categories - under 50 years of age, competent English and positive skills assessment outcome

Kennikki · February 2018

@RheaMARN1171933 thanks a lot. Any idea how much is the skill Assessment fee?

Kennikki · February 2018

@Heprex Thanks a lot po.

jiza · February 2018

Hello po, husband ko po ang main applicant (ACS, MLTSS sya)). Gusto ko sanang maka-add ng 5 points for partner skills qualification. May IELTS (at least 7) na ako but technical writer ang work ko (computer enginerring degree). Kaso nasa STSOL ang technical writer and hindi applicable sa subclass 189. But kailangan daw nasa MLTSSL ang job ko para makaclaim ako ng 5points. Tama po ba? Mas mabuti yata hindi nalang ako magpapaassess sa VETASSESS. May chance pa po bang makaclaim ako ng 5points? Salamat!!

Ito yong requirements na nabasa ko sa Internet:
You must provide evidence that your partner meets the requirements. This evidence must be:
1. documents that prove your partner is 50 years of age or younger
2. documents that prove your partner has at least competent English
3. a positive skills assessment from the relevant assessing authority for your partner’s nominated occupation (your partner’s nominated occupation must be on the same Skilled Occupation List as your nominated occupation).

RheaMARN1171933 · February 2018

Both of your occupations must be in the same list otherwise not possible at all

jiza · February 2018

@RheaMARN1171933 Ok po, salamat!

rurumi · February 2018

Hello,
If de-facto but we do not intend to get the additional 5pts. No need na po to submit anything for my partner sa ACS, tama po ba? No need narin to take the IELTS for my partner sa Visa Application nalang po for the proof?
Thank you!

SAP_Melaka · February 2018

rurumi said:
Hello,
If de-facto but we do not intend to get the additional 5pts. No need na po to submit anything for my partner sa ACS, tama po ba? No need narin to take the IELTS for my partner sa Visa Application nalang po for the proof?
Thank you!

@rurumi no need for ACS assessment if no plan to get partner points. You "might" need IELTS/PTE or any accredited english test by Aus Immig if your partner has no CEMI (or the case officer won't allow it).

rurumi · February 2018

@SAP_Melaka Hello! I see, thank you. Sorry but what is CEMI?

SAP_Melaka · February 2018

@rurumi Certification of English as Medium of Instruction, from your partner's University mo to makukuha

rurumi · February 2018

@SAP_Melaka ah okay. This is submitted when we get the Visa application invite pa, right?

SAP_Melaka · February 2018

@rurumi yes, upon lodging.

krizzymalasig · February 2018

Hello po. Question lang ako regarding claiming the de facto points. Pwede ba ang gf/bf status lang but not living together?

What a de facto relationship is
You and your partner are in a de facto partner relationship if all of the following applies:

you are not legally married to each other
you are committed to a shared life to the exclusion of all others
your relationship is genuine and continuing
you live together or do not live separately and apart on a permanent basis
you are not related by family.
Your relationship can be with someone of the same or different sex.

Length of relationship
Usually, your de facto relationship must have existed for at least 12 months immediately before you apply for the visa.

Time spent dating or in an online relationship does not count as being in a de facto relationship.

Thanks sa sasagot

dyanisabelle · February 2018

@krizzymalasig hi, living together is a requirement to be in a de facto relationship. Otherwise it's just bf/gf. De facto kasi is parang married na din, so your relationship should be domestic.

Lermie · March 2018

Hello @RheaMARN1171933 , ask ko lng po sana. naka pag skill assessment napo kami. Both of us nang fiancé is under the same ANZSCO code. My fiancé is the main applicant tas dependent ako, then plan namin kukunin nya yung points ko. Ang weird part lng is both of us go to the same school (clasm8t kami nang college) pero yung result sa skill assessment is associate ako tas cya is bachelor, then deduction ko is 5 years tas cya is 2 years lng. Both of us are programmers rin. So parang yung points ko sa experience is 0 na kasi yun ni deduct is 5 years. Pero sabi na yung skills ko is suitable for migration under same ANZSCO as my fiancé. So okay lng bah if 0 yung points ko as long as ni accept nila yung skills ko as yung sa ANZSCO code?

Nag tataka talaga ako eh bakit associate yung sakin tas 5 years binawas eh same lng nmn kami nang work ni fiancé. baka nakulitan cla kasi follow-up ako nang follow-up sa kanila kasi more than a month na yung skill assessment hindi pah nag respond.

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RheaMARN1171933 · March 2018

@Lermie it's hard for me to comment on the assessment outcome without seeing your docs. With regards to claiming partner skills, all you need is to be assessed positively, meet the age requirement, occupation must be in the same list and English requirement. All the best!