Dubai vs. Australia

ImB · November 2017

@abby_bm, not really sure kung pano exact computation and breakdown as it depends on the family's income. I know friends though who get roughly AUD600 per month per child.

Better check Centrelink's website.

abby_bm · November 2017

@ImB, thanks again. 10yrs na kami sa dubai. Ang hirap magdecide if worth it or not to move. Me magandang work and no tax dito sa dubai. Nakakaipon and stable kumbaga. Sana makapag adjust kami sa OZ lalo na mga kids. Nasanay na kasi dito at hirap iwanan. Baka iwanan na din ang career and magfull time mom na. Every week nasa legoland, dubai mall or Mirdif city center. Haay hirap magdecide...any tips po and advice na din? Thanks po.

ImB · November 2017

@abby_bm, a lot have been said in this thread already between Dubai and Australia backread ka lang.

As a former Dubai resident, my question is do you see your family living in Dubai long-term?

Should you decide to move here sa OZ ang tip ko lang is don't expect too much at first. Maganda ang Dubai, but it's all about long-term.

abby_bm · November 2017

@ImB, thanks. Tama pang long term. Although nasanay na kami especially mga kids, kelangan na mag decide habang me chance pa. Medyo mahirap na din kasi unti unti ng nagkaka tax dito. Taas na din tuition fees ng mga kids and rent. Malapit na expo 2020 kaya binabawi sa iba.

LittleFinger · November 2017

@abby_bm hi kabayan, may visa knb? kung wala pa at ngbabalak k plang gawin mo na habang mas maaga, kse hindi natin alam kung hanggang kelan magaccept c OZ ng migrants. Apply na while ur qualified, tsaka mo na isipin yang mga advantages and disadvantages, in the end you will realize na tama ang nagging decision mo pmnta dito kung hindi mo nman nkikita ang sarili mo jan sa Dubai na tumanda at manirahan ng pangmatagalan.

one example, pano kung mawalan ka ng work jan, hindi bat uuwi ka rin sa pinas? dito kapag nawalan ka ng work, may support ang govt for your family to survive. yun lang nman isa sa mga maliliit pero importanteng security for family ang pwede mo pagbasehan...

abby_bm · November 2017

@LittleFinger, meron na po kaming visa189. Nag entry kami nung 2014 pa. And by 2018 need na mag permanent stay dyan. Else, mag eexpire na. Tama ka walang permanent dito. Biglang nagbabago batas in one day lang. Kaya nagre ready na kami. Me tax na pala dito by 2018. Nung una nag tax lang sa mga tobacco and cola dahil masama daw sa katawan. Ngayon mag ta tax na sa lahat ng food areas. Ask ko lang, me nakagawa na ba sa inyo na pede mag request na mag extend pa ng another year na nasa labas ng oz? Lets say sa 2019 pa kami mag move na permanently instead of 2018? RRV po ba yun?

TasBurrfoot · November 2017

abby_bm said:
@LittleFinger, meron na po kaming visa189. Nag entry kami nung 2014 pa. And by 2018 need na mag permanent stay dyan. Else, mag eexpire na. Tama ka walang permanent dito. Biglang nagbabago batas in one day lang. Kaya nagre ready na kami. Me tax na pala dito by 2018. Nung una nag tax lang sa mga tobacco and cola dahil masama daw sa katawan. Ngayon mag ta tax na sa lahat ng food areas. Ask ko lang, me nakagawa na ba sa inyo na pede mag request na mag extend pa ng another year na nasa labas ng oz? Lets say sa 2019 pa kami mag move na permanently instead of 2018? RRV po ba yun?

extension by request is not possible and RRV is only possible if you are already residing in the country...

wanderer · November 2017

Any cheap airfare offers from dxb to syd by december?

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cookieblend · December 2017

Hello po guys!

Question lang, coming from UAE (not exactly Dubai...hehe) how would you compare UAE and AUS in terms of working environment, attitude and culture ng mga Employers and co-workers ? Salamat po sa mga sasagot... Godbless!

alexsioson · December 2017

@wanderer i found from kiwi.com...

Winnie2016 · December 2017

hello..tanong ko lng panu coconvert ang uae drivers license to aus? thank you in advance...

ImB · December 2017

You can't convert it. You need to pass driving exams (Theory, Hazard and Practical).

Magagamit mo yung UAE license for 6 mths, after that you need to have AU driving license.

Winnie2016 · January 2018

Thanks for the information..

Winnie2016 · January 2018

Hello @ImB , thanks sa information B-)

wanderer · January 2018

pwede po ba mag rent a car sa AU gamit UAE license for the first 6 months?

ImB · January 2018

@wanderer

Pwede naman.

I wouldn't do it though. For the 6 months cost of rent, makakabili ka na ng decent second hand car.

Diana__Jane · January 2018

@ImB san po mas tingin nyo okay in terms of of cost of living sa Melbourne or sa Sydney?

ImB · January 2018

@Diana__Jane, di pa ko nagagawi sa Sydney eh so no idea about groceries, eat-out, etc tbut I assume it will be similar to Melbourne or diff may be negligible.

Big difference though e sa cost of rent and properties. I know people, who went to Sydney but had to moved to Melbourne, while some thinking of moving to other states, coz of the unaffordable house prices in Sydney. Personally, this is one of the deciding factor why we did not chose Sydney.

dy3p · January 2018

@cookieblend Everything is different. I was born and raised in the UAE. Dun na ko nagaral, nagtapos, nakapangasawa and nagtrabaho din for 8 years. We've stayed there for over 30 years. It's actually both sad and satisfying to leave the country. Kahit na 8 years ako dun sa previous work ko sa AUH, I worry about job security a lot. Sa UAE pati, wala ka mapapala when it comes to long term. Money is good oo, pero not for everyone especially ngayon na naghihigpitan sila. At least dito, you secure your family by working. Kahit mawalan ka ng work, may susupport na govt sayo. Of course, kahit san naman tayo mga pinoy pumunta, makakaadapt tayo. Yung work sa una lang mahirap, pero once nakuha mo na yung gist, sisiw nalang saten ika nga. hehe

Lifestyle din is different, kung jan sa UAE lahat man-made, dito naman natural lang sya. hehe. They also value family life and time. UAE malls 24 hours - dito till 5 lang. Parang spoon fed tayo jan sa UAE, pero once hindi kana kailangan, wala uwi na Pinas.

Anyway, there are so many factors one can talk about and compare with what the differences are. I guess the bottom line lang is what are you really looking at in the future. Iba iba ang gusto ng mga tao, some would like to migrate permanently, some would just like to work and go back home, some would like to raise their children sa Pinas, some don't.

dy3p · January 2018

@wanderer you can use your UAE drivers license kung naka 457 ka for the whole duration of the visa. Pero once nag pr na, kailngan mo na din kumuha by taking the exams, both theoretical and practical. Depending on the state din.

zacc · April 2018

@abby_bm hi. Ask ko lang kung sa UAE kayo nagsstay ngayon at paano ginawa niyo nung nag entry kayo nung 2014 until today? Bumabalik balik b kayo sa AU? Tulad dito sa UAE need magpabalik balik after 6months. Thanks sa reply.

mafimushkila123 · May 2018

Hello everyone! My fiance and I are also in the process of applying sa Au. Im an accountant, tapos sya, walang specialization (we're both in Dubai). Like, graduate ng B.S. ComSci pero sa real estate as back office nagwowork. He's worried na baka wala syang mahanap daw sa Au, especially since okay na sweldo nya dito. Baka daw may mahanap man sya, mababa naman ang sweldo (minus tax and superannuation pa). Ano po bang masasabi nyo para maconvince ko sya or magkaron sya ng peace of mind about sa paglipat namin? May chance kaya sya sa dyan sa Au? Kasi pati ako honestly napapaisip na din.. Thanks in advance!

cind3r3lla · May 2018

@abby_bm Hi abby.... answer ko yung question mo huh.

we got our aust PR ng 2009, we moved to Aust 6 months before mag-5th year.
If you check your visa, visa is actually "indefinite", ang nag-e-expire ay yung travel permission mo. So, in our case, dahil late na kami nag settle ng Aust, after nung 5th year after visa grant, we had to get RRV (resident return visa) bago kami lumabas ng Aust for vacation.

You can stay in Aust even with expired PR visa, pero wag ka lang lalabas ng wala kang bitbit na RRV. Dahil kapag lumabas ka ng walang RRV, hindi ka na makakapasok pabalik ng Aust. hehe.

But no, I don't think pwede ka mag request ng extension. Fair naman di ba? They have given you almost 5 years to think about it.

It will be worth it, dear.

Btw, may advantages and disadvantages ang pinapatagal ang pag-settle.

cind3r3lla · May 2018

@cookieblend
You are paid here by the hour... so in general, susulitin nila ang pinapa-sweldo sayo.
Though yung una kong work, nakakapag-kwentuhan kami the whole day... which i hate by the way. So, I opted to change job where i'm on my toes every minute.

So, depende kung anong working attitude mo rin.

Same lang naman in terms of employers, i think. As long as you can contribute, you're IN.

cind3r3lla · May 2018

@zacc Hi zacc, basta nakapag-initial entry ka na, hindi naman requirement na magpabalik-balik ka ng aust before you settle. Basta lang mag settle ka, before yung deadline nila na "must not arrive after [date]" date.

Pero syempre, kung trip mo namang isa-isahin ang mga states para ma feel kung saan mo gusto mag settle or gusto mong mag-apply ng personal, oks rin naman.

batman · May 2018

mafimushkila123 said:
Hello everyone! My fiance and I are also in the process of applying sa Au. Im an accountant, tapos sya, walang specialization (we're both in Dubai). Like, graduate ng B.S. ComSci pero sa real estate as back office nagwowork. He's worried na baka wala syang mahanap daw sa Au, especially since okay na sweldo nya dito. Baka daw may mahanap man sya, mababa naman ang sweldo (minus tax and superannuation pa). Ano po bang masasabi nyo para maconvince ko sya or magkaron sya ng peace of mind about sa paglipat namin? May chance kaya sya sa dyan sa Au? Kasi pati ako honestly napapaisip na din.. Thanks in advance!

@mafimushkila123 ka ano ano mo si @mafimushkila at si @mafipolos hehe!

kidding aside alam ko naka usap kita sa ibang thread. na convince mo na ba? sabihin mo hindi pang habang buhay sa AUH kong dyan man kayo. Hindi nman kau bibigyan ng citizenship dyan (afaik), isipin nyo na lng magiging future ng kids nyo.

batman · May 2018

@cind3r3lla what are the + at - pag pinapatagal ang pag move permanently sa AU?

mafimushkila123 · May 2018

@batman mga long lost relatives ata ser. Haha! Oo nga, hanggang ngayon wineweigh in pa rin namin. Mas banked kami sa pag-Au para pwedeng pumasok sa PBB teen edition mga anak namin balang araw.

) oo nga ser nakausap na kita sa ibang thread, ikaw lagi nakakasagot ng mga tanong ko, di kaya ikaw ang head ng home affairs? Joke haha! Pero salamat ser. :-bd

cind3r3lla · May 2018

batman said:
@cind3r3lla what are the + at - pag pinapatagal ang pag move permanently sa AU?

Delaying the date of the big move

Pros:
1. Makakaipon ka pa ng pambaon.

2. Sa mga mommies, advantage sya kasi mas malaki na ang babies. Less alagain na.

Cons:
1. Depende sa industry mo, baka saturated na ang market mo pagdating mo dito. Pero syempre, swertihan pa rin naman at dasal.
2. If you decide to go out of Australia after your deadline to settle, mag-a-apply ka ng RRV. Expensive sya lalo na't marami kayo. Kung kaya mo naman mag-stay ng 4 years ng dire-diretso, walang problema. Eh paano kung may emergency sa Pinas before ka makapag-apply as citizen? Eh di no choice ka but to get RRV ... In applying for RRV, kapag less than 2years ka palang dito sa Aust, 1 year validity lang ang ibibigay sa iyong RRV. Meaning, should you decide to go out again bago ka mag-2 years dito, apply at bayad ulet ng RRV. Kapag naka-2 years ka naman na, 5 years validity na ang ibibigay sayo. Pero para ano pa, kung mag-a-apply ka naman ng citizenship di ba? Ma-doble lang ang gastos. This happened to us, kaya I know how expensive it can be.
3. Delayed din ang apply mo ng citizenship syempre kasi hintayin mong maka-4 yrs ka pa. Yung mga kasabayan mong visa grantees, citizens na, ikaw hindi pa. Though hindi naman sya contest noh. Kaya lang, nakakainip maghintay kapag may comparison. hehe.
4. Mas mahal na ang rent/living expenses, kaya mas madali maubos ang baon. hehe.

alfonso31 · May 2018

jkk32w said:
@elec_popon hello! meron akong friend na couple where ME ung husband and nurse din ung asawa. mas mabuti ikw mag principal pra dependent mo nlng sia..once ur both here and since she is a perm resident, its easier for her to start her career her as nurse. since ma gastos ang bridging course nila around 13k aud (and may balita na indi na 3months ngaun, mgging 6months na), for sure it will be more costly. Gnawa ng frends ko nagaral muna ung wife ng aged care (libre for residents) , after 5 weeks may license na sia sa aged care pinag aagawan na sia ng mga agencies here. so gngawa nila ngaun mag iipon muna sila and end of ds yr start ng bridging.

mas mahirap ang path ng nurses papasok dito, may edge ang PR na statusand mag aaral ng briding (since re.quired pra sa license).

goodluck!

@jkk32w ask ko lang sana, anu yung ibig sabihin mo dun sa "agencies"? Para ba silang recruitment agency? I'm planning kc may BM this year, at kinakabahan ako if may mahahanap kaya akong work especially in Brisbane kaya iniisip ko if may recuitment agencies ba dyn na cla mag hahanap sau ng work then mag bayad na lng sa knila pra sure na mag kaka-trabaho. Salamat.