Student Visa (Step by step)

athelene · April 2018

@marialobsan I wouldn't say na "mas madali" siya than applying directly to working visa, pero kung kulang or gusto mo madagdagan yung points mo, makakatulong yung Australian study sa skilled visa application (+5 points din kasi). Pero downside nga nito ay magastos at pagtutuunan nyo ng panahon (at least 2 years). Hindi assurance kasi na pag nag-aral sa Australia ay mapapadali o mapapabilis ang skilled visa application.

marialobsan · April 2018

@athelene ah, okay so mas ma-inam pala if direct ka na sa skilled kailangan lang ng years of exp? God bless and thank you.

athelene · April 2018

@marialobsan If you're at the optimum age (25-32 years old), have at least Proficient English, positive skills assessment (PH degree assessed to at least AU Bachelor's degree equivalent), and state nomination (if your occupation is in the skill shortage list of the state/territory you want to move to), you should be able to meet that 60 points even without (at least 3 years of) overseas work experience. You should try the Points Calculator of the forum to see how many points you can potentially claim.

Delsette · April 2018

Hi just checking po may age limit ba ng student visa for masteral? 2 uni n kasi ng decline s age daw

athelene · April 2018

@Delsette Max age limit? none that I know of. Which unis are those?

agentKams · April 2018

@Delsette wala age limit ang master's program, may kaklase pa ako na nasa 50's up though aus citizen sila.

julypearl · April 2018

How long did it take for your agent to lodge your application once you’ve completed all the documents?

holahappymaria · April 2018

Hi guys! Yun mga pupunta ng Melbourne at kailangan ng place for stay, message lang ako. Thanks!

JillCyCian · April 2018

hi pinoy Australia forum. hope you help me. This is my new post and please bear with me kung marami akong tanong. hindi na ko makabackread sa haba hehe.

My status:
I'am a graduate of BS Mech Eng'g in known institute sa Manila. I'm 35 y/o now. I worked in a consulting firm small company of oil and gas industry (our client is Shell) for almost 12 yrs and going. Although hindi ko gaano nagmit yung pagiging ME graduate ko sa work ko.

I want to work abroad (AUS) dahil lumalaki na pamilya ko. I have 3 kids, 2 is schooling and a toddler. My wife is only a housewife. Worried lang kmi sa future nila.
But I have a brother is currently in AUS, I think approved na PR nila dahil pinadala sya ng company nya for good.
Also my brother want to sponsor my eldest son his studies in AUS starting high school in 2019.

My Plan:
I plan to get student visa and take a vocational course in automotive. Yung brother ko naman ang mag sponsor sakin ng studies ko in AUS. At the same time mag part-time job para matutusan ko pang gastos for self and para sa family ko na nsa Pinas.
Then kung matapos ko na ung course, baka sakaling maka hanap ng regular work sa AUS (pwede ba yun?) and if palarin migrate ko na family ko from Pinas.

My Questions:
1. Sa dami dami ng nabasa ko dito puro bachelor, masteral lang ba ang na aapproved for student visa? how about vocational like Automotive? may possibility rin ba?

2. Nabasa ko sa GTE na temporary ka lang talaga dito sa AUS for study purposes only, pero pano nagagawa ng iba na maka kuha ng regular work sa AUS? any tips naman

Thanks po sa makakasagot/tulong.

julypearl · April 2018

@JillCyCian hi! Check TAFE for vocational courses. Yung iba, nakakahanap ng work sponsorship if under MLTSSL yung field of work.

athelene · April 2018

@JillCyCian Hi. With a long work history, I think it might be better to try the skilled visa route first; student visa is expensive kahit vocational pa ang kukunin mo. With a relatively big family, mas mahihirapan ka na i-support ang family on your part-time income as a student (unless your wife will work full-time and leave the kids to childcare, which is expensive too)--if they're going with you to AU ha.

You can nominate an occupation that is related to your work experience, and then study automotive once you get a PR visa. From what I know, the tuition fees for PRs are lower than for international students, so it might be worth waiting a bit to save money in the long run.

As a student kasi, you are limited to 20 hours per week, and it's not easy to find a job that might be related to your course (if you're trying to build your local experience). Most people I've asked said that working part-time to pay for living costs is doable, but it will be difficult if you are also working to send money back home or if you're supporting your family in AU. Once you graduate from a 2-year course (whether vocational/higher education), you might be eligible for 485 temporary graduate visa, which allows you full work rights depending on the program you've completed. Mind you, this is NOT a PR visa. You'll have to lodge a separate skilled visa application to be able to migrate your whole family to Australia.

As to your question regarding courses regarding student visa, you can enroll for vocational courses (like automotive) as long as the school and the program are CRICOS-registered. If you mean whether you can use that vocational course to migrate to Australia, I believe it's possible, but you have to choose whether to nominate your oil-and-gas occupation (which is based on your current work experience) or automotive-related occupation (based on your Australian studies).

GTE is unrelated to the process of getting full-time work. It is a statement to certify that your plans to go to Australia are really for study purposes; DHA (immigration) uses it to "measure" how legit are your plans to study in Australia. Of course, plans can change along the way and during studies, so if the student decides to stay in Australia to work full-time, they can do so as long as they have the proper visa (485, 457, 189, 190, 489, etc). Typically in the GTE, you emphasize your intentions to study lang. While I think it's possible to mention your future plans about working in AU after your studies, I would advise against it because you don't want to give DHA a reason to outright reject your visa application (because it will look like you do plan to stay in Australia beyond your studies).

MLBS · April 2018

@aranayad Hi I'd like to ask how do you guys know if a school is a level 2 provider? Thanks

athelene · April 2018

@MLBS Hi, at this point they won't publish the risk ratings of either the education provider or country because certain schools could be targeted by non-genuine students if the risk ratings were published. You really have to use the Document Checklist Tool to see if the institution requires proof of financial capacity.

You can read DHA's full explanation here. If you're curious which institutions are eligible for SVP (streamlined visa processing), you can click here.

MLBS · April 2018

@athelene Thanks! But I highly doubt that the institiution I'm planning (DNA Kingston Training) is exempted since it's not a uni. So I still probably need to provide proof of finances still.

athelene · April 2018

@MLBS It's better to inquire with your chosen institution regarding this matter. If you aren't required to include the proof of financial capacity by the Document Checklist, the school might.

julypearl · April 2018

Lodged my application yesterday, got visa approval yesterday also! Got my result in 3 minutes! Super fast!

Delsette · April 2018

@athelene @agentKams thanks po! kaka 40 lang kasi ng asawa ko hehe, federation uni saka victoria uni un ngreject.. hanap nalang kami ulet iba schools.. un isang gusto pasahn ng agent nmn is wester uni.. pwede po ba ko maka ask ng copy ng SOp nyo? ggawin ng agent now is asawa ko nlang muna ang iapply and d n kmi muna kasama, pag na aprove nalng daw saka kami iaapply para mas strong proof n d kami mg stay dun after ng 2 years.. ok kaya un? and aaboy pa kaya ng july intake un asawa ko? if mag nov intake nmn, alam ko may expiration yata un docs n meron n kmi? tama ba...

sory dami tanong... super thank u sa help

Delsette · April 2018

@julypearl wow Praise God! ang bilis! masteral din po un?

athelene · April 2018

@Delsette 40 isn't *that* old. hmph. ang choosy nila ha. Anyway, target destination nyo is Melbourne lang ba? You can try looking into programs by Swinburne, RMIT, UniMelb, La Trobe, Monash, Deakin (now that I think of it, parang mas maraming uni ang Victoria than NSW haha). Would Melbourne Polytechnic be an option too?

As for SOP, I've heard it's about the same as the GTE, so you can take a look at the comment I made on another thread: GTE sample content

If that's the suggestion of your agent and they know it works, it's worth a try. With the SVP kasi, the burden of vetting genuine students are transferred to the school/uni instead of DHA (formerly DIBP, aka immigration). Kaya siguro ngayon mas strict ang requirements ng school kasi trabaho na nila ang magfilter ng mga totoong students, so your husband has to first pass the requirements of the school. If makakatulong na subsequent entrant kayong dependents nya, then go for it. At this point, since wala pa siyang offer or eCoE from the uni, baka gahulin kayo sa oras. You have to consider kasi the time to apply and get that offer letter, enrol to get eCoE (aka pay for tuition), apply for visa, and do medicals. What documents po ba ang mag-eexpire na and kelan sila mag-expire?

@julypearl wow ang bilis nga! congrats!

julypearl · April 2018

@Delsette Naku, hindi. I wish! hehe! Vocational course po.

julypearl · April 2018

@athelene Thank you! Sa sobrang bilis hindi ako naniwala hanggat nabasa ko ang grant letter. Praise God!

athelene · April 2018

@julypearl hahaha sakin took 2 weeks, pero same reaction din ako... d ako makapaniwala until binasa ko ng buo yung grant letter hahaha. lumipat pa ko to laptop para sure na tama ang nababasa ko

agentKams · April 2018

@Delsette madami pa namang schools diyan. just do good sa SOP and since age 40 na si applicant you might as well highlight how he will progress after ng uni. kasi they will expect na mataas na position ang target mo that is why your are doing the postgraduate or at least think long-term like doing business etc. Goodluck!

julypearl · April 2018

@athelene me too! Kase yung agent ko di rin makapaniwala. Pagka-lodge approved agad! Ang saya. Mag-twitter status pa sana ako na the waiting game has begun. lol

athelene · April 2018

@julypearl hahaha ibang klaseng waiting game nalang ang ipost mo... waiting to go to Australia nalang haha. When magstart classes mo ang when do you plan to go?

kltm23 · April 2018

@julypearl grabe congrats! if you dont mind, whwat was your timeline from the time na you started the application to being granted? Also which agency did you work with?

ChefMa · April 2018

@babie congrats po pwede din po makahingi copy ng GTE at SOP mo sa email ko po? [email protected] thanks po

ChefMa · April 2018

Hi po! May duration po ba ang PTE (I mean naexpire siya?) And also sino po dito na approve ng ang GTE at SOP kahit change career sila sa Oz (share your stories naman

). Thanks po