Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

wanderer · October 2018

kenroy said:
@zirko Hi sir thanks po for replying. Sir pweded po pa help mag clarify? Sabi po kasi sa Manual:

SECONDARY DOCUMENTS
 Income Tax Return Acknowledgement or Receipt; and/or
 Social Security Insurance/ Superfund/ Provident Fund/ Retirement Contribution Statement Reports.

Sir please correct me if I am wrong. ITR is another document aside from SSS insurance, final CoE (I was able to request one na po), and other documents you mentioned. Di po ba sir requirement talaga si ITR in which case I wont be able to provide given the circumstances. Ano po kaya best solution dito? Salamat po ulit sir I really appreciate your feedback.

@kenroy @datch29 You just provide whatever you have. I claimed 3 years work experience in PH pero iisang ITR lang naprovide ko dahil matagal na at nasa overseas na ako that time, the rest are SSS, signed contract, COE with JD, and payroll history from employer (not even payslips). Got a positive result naman.

kenroy · October 2018

@wanderer Hi sir! Thank you so much. Very informative po. So far isang employer lang naman wala ako ITR. Sir may question ako, what if meron ako di dineclare na employer. It was too short and it was just a transient employment as I resigned right away (3 months) and I think it will not contribute to my nominated profession. Problem is makikita po kaya yun sa SSS history of contribution ko? May bearing kaya yon sir sa application ko?

wanderer · October 2018

@kenroy Below 6 months employment yata ay hindi considered. Meron din ako employment 6 months lang, hindi na ko nagclaim points for that and it was also included in my SSS contributions, and in my CV, wala naman issue. What are you worried about?

kenroy · October 2018

@wanderer plan ko na kasi sir na wag talaga iinclude yung mga yon sa CV ko hehe. Worried lang ako sir kasi baka po may issue pag may mga employment history na di diniclare since makikita sya sa SSS contribution history (might have an impact on the assessment??).

Regarding the ITR sir, iniisip ko rin pala na kumpletuhin muna talaga yung requirements as many as possible before submitting as napaka ikli daw po ng timeframe ng EA for completing yung additional evidences required by EA if so ever they require. Napaka misleading po kasi nung "and/or" dun sa manual kaya iniisip ko required talaga si ITR and/or SSS statements as I heard na yung friend ko nagpasa ng ITR yet hinanapan parin ng SSS Statements so i thought BOTH ITR and SSS statement are required. Hopefully you can give me additional clarification. Thank you so much sir sa useful feedback!

boogie789 · October 2018

Dapat po ba official letterhead yung gamit sa job description? Or suffice na yung may pirma lang ng direct manager? Tas need pa ba ng contact number niya? TIA

wanderer · October 2018

@kenroy kung wala kang ITR, then SSS is ok. And/or means both or one of them :-) You can put all your employments in your CV, pero do not claim points kung wala kang evidence. Don't worry too much :-)

Pag hinanapan ka at wala ka nabigay doesnt mean they will reject your application, as long as you have valid explanation you can get away with that. When I submitted my assessment, yung former employer ko hindi nakumpleto yung SSS payments ko so I explained to EA na hindi nabayaran ng employer ko kaya kulang ang SSS contri na nasa application ko. In the end, ok parin naman.

RheaMARN1171933 · October 2018

@wanderer @kenroy you decide what employment you want to claim. No one will ever reprimand you for not disclosing any employment. There is also no ruling as to the minimum tenure in unclaimed employment.

wanderer · October 2018

boogie789 said:
Dapat po ba official letterhead yung gamit sa job description? Or suffice na yung may pirma lang ng direct manager? Tas need pa ba ng contact number niya? TIA

Dapat nasa company letterhead, otherwise you need statutory declaration signed by your manager/supervisor with contact details of course.

kenroy · October 2018

@RheaMARN1171933 @wanderer Thank you so much po mga sir I really appreciate the feedback. Planning to Lodge my RSEA and MSA next week as soon as I get the revised CoE I requested

zirko · October 2018

Hi @kenroy @datch29 . In my case, I was able to submit all of my ITRs. But the EA assessor contacted me still looking for "income tax acknowledgement receipt". Up to now, I still don't know what EA means. In the interest of time, I decided same day of contact to just print to pdf all my SSS contributions and uploaded them.

These were my secondary and other documents as I can recall them upon submission: complete ITRs, performance appraisal, salary increase notice, some years of employer certificates of SSS and HDMF receipts, travel authority docs, etc. Not one payslip. Result - positive outcome with all years of experience recognized.

zirko · October 2018

@kenroy, I had a 9-month tenure. I just mentioned it where applicable, like sa CV and entries to EA questions on chronology of employment. Since I knew already that it can't be claimed as full-year experience, I sent no evidences except for an old COE. On results, EA just mentioned that the period is not recognized.

datch29 · October 2018

Hi @zirko @wanderer . Thanks for the reply.

jsjabaan · October 2018

Hello guys! Good day! I was contacted by an agent telling me that I am qualified for General Skilled Migration Program. I am currently studying all the process and requirements for the application. I have 5yrs or work experience in 2months. Im quite confused with the Skill Assessment especially the continuing professional development (CPD), I am a registered Electronics Engineer and only have my license. I havent attended any seminar (even though i was able to renew my license) or took any post graduate studies except my CCNA certification which is about to expire this month. Im confused if this will still make me qualified and will get a positive result from the assessment. Anyone here who does not have those post graduate qualifications as well? My agent told me that it is okay, the important thing is my ECE License. Thanks guys!

wanderer · October 2018

RheaMARN1171933 said:
@wanderer @kenroy you decide what employment you want to claim. No one will ever reprimand you for not disclosing any employment. There is also no ruling as to the minimum tenure in unclaimed employment.

Hi, there was a clause in MSA booklet where it says "Documentary evidence of employment (for periods of 12 months or more, or if the employment provides a
basis for a career episode/s)". As I said, you can disclose all your employment but only those with evidences will be counted.

wanderer · October 2018

jsjabaan said:
Hello guys! Good day! I was contacted by an agent telling me that I am qualified for General Skilled Migration Program. I am currently studying all the process and requirements for the application. I have 5yrs or work experience in 2months. Im quite confused with the Skill Assessment especially the continuing professional development (CPD), I am a registered Electronics Engineer and only have my license. I havent attended any seminar (even though i was able to renew my license) or took any post graduate studies except my CCNA certification which is about to expire this month. Im confused if this will still make me qualified and will get a positive result from the assessment. Anyone here who does not have those post graduate qualifications as well? My agent told me that it is okay, the important thing is my ECE License. Thanks guys!

You can attend seminars for the sake of it, they wont ask for any evidence anyway.

jsjabaan · October 2018

hi @wanderer, pero its still okay if I dont have any seminars? Im planning to apply na din kasi sana. and process all the requirements.

VirGlySyl · October 2018

@jsjabaan kahit mga seminars or trainings conducted by your employers in and ex?
sakin yung mga training/seminars namin internal, yun na lang sinama ko, may napasama tuloy akong di ko na-attendan buti na lang di nangihihingi ng certificates, sabagay kahit manghingi sila nung meron wala na din akong maibibigay.

boogie789 · October 2018

Hi po may sample po ba kayo nang certficate of employment na may job description. TIA

boogie789 · October 2018

@wanderer may sample ka po ba nun? TIA

jsjabaan · October 2018

Hi @VirGlySyl, wala po eh! i was working under an agency before, iniisip ko baka maging problem din po un. Then now BPO company handling Australian Telecom Network. Not sure kasi they will consider un pag ganun work exp?

RheaMARN1171933 · October 2018

@kenroy @wanderer that’s correct. I am responding to the concern issued wherein kenroy was concern that he’ll be in trouble for not disclosing a certain employment. It doesn’t really matter how much tenure you had with the undisclosed employment.

The subject was about undisclosed employment and not the declared ones. Of course, with the declared employment, the MSA ruling applies.

kenroy · October 2018

@wanderer Hi sir, may I just clarify if the MSA only allows employment of 12 months or more to be the only ones that can be declared / assessed? I had employment for about 9 months and another one for 6 months (there was a sudden recession at nagkatanggalan po sa company namin).

wanderer · October 2018

jsjabaan said:
hi @wanderer, pero its still okay if I dont have any seminars? Im planning to apply na din kasi sana. and process all the requirements.

Hi @jsjabaan CPD is EA requirement so you need to have it.

wanderer · October 2018

boogie789 said:
@wanderer may sample ka po ba nun? TIA

Google mo lang po :-) https://www.examples.com/business/employee-reference-letter-samples.html

wanderer · October 2018

kenroy said:
@wanderer Hi sir, may I just clarify if the MSA only allows employment of 12 months or more to be the only ones that can be declared / assessed? I had employment for about 9 months and another one for 6 months (there was a sudden recession at nagkatanggalan po sa company namin).

Hey you can claim for that as long as you have evidences, let EA decide if it is counted or not.

kenroy · October 2018

@wanderer Thank you very much sir! So many questions were answered really appreciate it you helping us

wanderer · October 2018

kenroy said:
@wanderer Thank you very much sir! So many questions were answered really appreciate it you helping us

No worries! Goodluck sa application mo. Let me know if you need more info :-)

renly2328 · October 2018

Ask ko rin po kung ano po ibig sabihin ni MSA dito

"It is recommended that each narrative be a minimum of 1000 and maximum of 2500 words"

each career episode po ba ibig sabihin niya dito?

sa format din po kasi na binigay ni MSA

introduction - approx 100 words
background - 200 to 500 words
personal engineering activity - 500 to 1000 words
summary - 50 to 100 words

to sum up po kasi ang maximum words lang based sa format na to is 1700 words.

alin po susundin sa maximum allowable words?

Thank you po

VirGlySyl · October 2018

@renly2328 yes, per CE yan. Mag in between ka na lang sa 1k to 2.5k words, ave. ~1.7k words. Tanung ko din yan dati, and ~2k words ang mga CE ko, di naman kahigpitan si EA wag lang cguru na lalampas sa range na binigay nila (i.e. 1min-2.5kmax) yung ni-total mo na 1.7k e approx nmn yun.
And, wait na lang din natin ang side ng iba.
Goodluck.

renly2328 · October 2018

Thank you sa response @VirGlySyl mag average nalang din po ako ng 2k words. ano po palang engineering field mo? may nainclude po ba kayong mga charts, illustration/computation?