Australian Computer Society Skills Application

RheaMARN1171933 · November 2019

@riedbach said:

@jaznimbo said:

@riedbach said:

@jaznimbo said:
Dba ang COE contains your job description already. What if your resume has the same content as of your CoE? Kung baga, parang ung resume mo ay consolidation lang ng coe mo (employers, job title and job description)? Will that be acceptable?

One reason I could see here is if they compare your coe per company dun sa resume mo, tapos hindi naman matched ung wordings (kahit sabihin na natin paraphrased), baka hindi nila tanggapin?

Or, pag nakita nilang pareho lang ang resume mo sa mga coe mo, baka isipin nila copy-paste lang?

Which is better? Salamat sa sasagot

I presume by COE, your company issued you an employment reference with company letterhead and not stat decs? I would paraphrase as much as possible at papahabain ko ng kaunti yung sa resume to give more context sa role (assuming limited lang ang nilagay ni company sa COE).

In my case, one company lang ako at hindi nagbibigay ng COE with detailed roles kaya 3 stat decs ang sinubmit ko. Definitely mas may impact yung nasa stat decs compared sa content ng resume (correct me po if im wrong) since stat decs are supposed to be written by our superiors as legal document. (since technically ako din ang naglayout ng stat decs syempre iniba ko ng kaunti ng sequence and added more details sa resume para hindi naman masabi ni CO na copy paste. )

@riedbach binigyan ako ng freedom ng employers ko to write the job description on my own. So i match my JD dun sa ACS requirements. Not exactly the same sa acs but with the same concept and meaning lang. Then on my resume, what ever the JD i put on the coe, thats what i wrote. Well, except for the company description, etc. Just the plain JD lang.

I guess you're familiar sa mga job portals like jobstreet or jobsdb. Ganun lang format, bulleted sentences.

@jaznimbo, that's good for you na you have the liberty to write anything. then they signed it with company letterhead? That's even better than providing stat decs IMO. I believe hindi issue sa CO na same content yung COE mo with resume but just to address my anxiety na pagdudahan yung JD/COE vs resume na same na same I would paraphrase ng kaunti and include accomplishments/highlights of my career. haha.. I don't think magfofocus si CO sa resume content but we never know, just to avoid further questioning that might affect the result. All the best!

Resume is usually used as guideline of your work experience for the assessor. The content on the reference letter is more important.

donzzz9 · November 2019

Hello po, my tanong lang po sana ako. Gusto ko sana magpa.assess sa ACS to add points for my wife who is the main applicant for PR. I have a 3 yrs and 9 months of experience as a software engineer sa atin sa pinas tapos section 2 na belong ang school. May possibility ba na ma.assess ako as skilled with the experience that I have?

_sebodemacho · November 2019

@Piper003 said:
Hello po tanong ko lang kung meron dito same situation na nagsubmit ng assessment ng mga September 26 at wala parin result hanggang ngayon? Dapat na ba akong mag email at magfollow up? Salamat! 😁

What's the status of your application in the ACS website? You can log into your account and check it there, it should be "Currently with an Assessor", to that effect.

You may want to follow up, but I don't think it would have an effect. It's really more of a waiting game.

Fortunately for me, I got mine after 5 weeks. We submitted around the same time. Check my Signature for the timeline.

_sebodemacho · November 2019

@riedbach said:

@jaznimbo said:

@riedbach said:

@jaznimbo said:
Dba ang COE contains your job description already. What if your resume has the same content as of your CoE? Kung baga, parang ung resume mo ay consolidation lang ng coe mo (employers, job title and job description)? Will that be acceptable?

One reason I could see here is if they compare your coe per company dun sa resume mo, tapos hindi naman matched ung wordings (kahit sabihin na natin paraphrased), baka hindi nila tanggapin?

Or, pag nakita nilang pareho lang ang resume mo sa mga coe mo, baka isipin nila copy-paste lang?

Which is better? Salamat sa sasagot

I presume by COE, your company issued you an employment reference with company letterhead and not stat decs? I would paraphrase as much as possible at papahabain ko ng kaunti yung sa resume to give more context sa role (assuming limited lang ang nilagay ni company sa COE).

In my case, one company lang ako at hindi nagbibigay ng COE with detailed roles kaya 3 stat decs ang sinubmit ko. Definitely mas may impact yung nasa stat decs compared sa content ng resume (correct me po if im wrong) since stat decs are supposed to be written by our superiors as legal document. (since technically ako din ang naglayout ng stat decs syempre iniba ko ng kaunti ng sequence and added more details sa resume para hindi naman masabi ni CO na copy paste. )

@riedbach binigyan ako ng freedom ng employers ko to write the job description on my own. So i match my JD dun sa ACS requirements. Not exactly the same sa acs but with the same concept and meaning lang. Then on my resume, what ever the JD i put on the coe, thats what i wrote. Well, except for the company description, etc. Just the plain JD lang.

I guess you're familiar sa mga job portals like jobstreet or jobsdb. Ganun lang format, bulleted sentences.

@jaznimbo, that's good for you na you have the liberty to write anything. then they signed it with company letterhead? That's even better than providing stat decs IMO. I believe hindi issue sa CO na same content yung COE mo with resume but just to address my anxiety na pagdudahan yung JD/COE vs resume na same na same I would paraphrase ng kaunti and include accomplishments/highlights of my career. haha.. I don't think magfofocus si CO sa resume content but we never know, just to avoid further questioning that might affect the result. All the best!

Just to share... My resume and the set of COE I submitted had the same contents and received a Suitable assessment result.

I believe job descriptions on the COE have greater weight among all the requirements since it's the skilled experience and their legitimacy are the center of the assessment, to begin with.

jaznimbo · November 2019

Thats great to hear @_sebodemacho !! It makes more sense that the COE will be the primary source of truth knowing that it is signed by the company. Ang resume kasi "puwede dayain". You can write all the experience you want in a resume without it being "legit". Thats why in job interviews, recruiters do not rely on the applicant's resume. They assess by interviews and exam.

_sebodemacho · November 2019

@jaznimbo said:
Thats great to hear @_sebodemacho !! It makes more sense that the COE will be the primary source of truth knowing that it is signed by the company. Ang resume kasi "puwede dayain". You can write all the experience you want in a resume without it being "legit". Thats why in job interviews, recruiters do not rely on the applicant's resume. They assess by interviews and exam.

Haha! Precisely.

But yeah, for the purpose of ACS Assessment, focus on getting the right JDs from employers, for a better result.

Just my 2 cents.

ykseihpos · November 2019

@Admin said:
@ykseihpos importante na lahat ng description sa job desc ng anzsco e eksakto sa ginagawa mo sa trabaho mo. kung hindi match, hanap ka ng ibang Occupation and check mo panu ko mafifit ung work mo sa JD sa occupation ng Anzsco. need mo I highlight na ang ginagawa mo e match talaga para ma assess ka na positive. pag naglagay ka mg iba n hindi match alam mo na siguro mangyayari d b? hehehe.

Thanks @Admin. Kung ako na lang kaya main applicant, mas eksakto sa Software Engineer yung work ko. Pwede ba magwork sa AU ang dependent ko which is my husband?

Admin · November 2019

Just check your points kung sinu mas mataas sa inyo mas ok https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/help-support/tools/points-calculator

ms_ane · November 2019

@riedbach said:
Just an update po, after I submitted the explanation letter last thursday Nov21 (why I only submitted statutory declarations in the initial application) I finally got the positive result today Nov25.

So my view is that you can really get the result as early as 4weeks.
Oct15 - Submitted ACS application
Nov13 - CO requested missing document (Explanation Letter)
Nov21 - Submitted Explanation Letter + Statutory Declaration
Nov25 - Result Letter (AQF Bachelor Degree, -4yrs from exp)

Thank you @ms_ane for the guidance!
God bless to all applicants!

congrats kapatid. glad everything worked out Godbless sa susunod na steps

Doix14 · November 2019

Good eve po patulonb po sana @ms_ane or kung sino nka experience na. Nag apply po aq ACS last Oct 28,2019 at natangap q na po result. Di daw recognized school ko sa Anzco napili q khit nka section 2 nman. Pwde po ba pumili iba Anzco code which is TRA nman assesing bodies. TIA. God bless po.

RheaMARN1171933 · November 2019

@Piper003 said:
Hello po tanong ko lang kung meron dito same situation na nagsubmit ng assessment ng mga September 26 at wala parin result hanggang ngayon? Dapat na ba akong mag email at magfollow up? Salamat! 😁

If it’s beyond 12 weeks then you’re at the right to follow up otherwise you just need to wait as it’s still within their timeline.

ms_ane · November 2019

@Doix14 said:
Good eve po patulonb po sana @ms_ane or kung sino nka experience na. Nag apply po aq ACS last Oct 28,2019 at natangap q na po result. Di daw recognized school ko sa Anzco napili q khit nka section 2 nman. Pwde po ba pumili iba Anzco code which is TRA nman assesing bodies. TIA. God bless po.

hello kapatid. sorry to hear that. Parang ngayon lang din ako naka encounter ng ganyang outcome.
If you dont mind sharing the content of the outcome letter, makikitanggal mo nalang yung personal details para we can check for other forum members na posibleng may first hand experience.
Sa ngayon bago ka pumili ng ibang anzsco code, we need to understand muna bakit di nag ok ang outcome kasi you will be using the same docs sa ibang assessment and it will be worthwhile to know and ma figure out muna yung reason ng outcome.

eischied_21 · November 2019

Hello, ka-pinoyau! Question lang, nagpa-assess ako from ACS year 2015. During the assessment, I was on my 3rd year with my current employer until now I am still connected with the company. Question is, my expiration ba ang ACS and need ko pa ba magpare-assess ulit?

Supersaiyan · November 2019

@eischied_21 said:
Hello, ka-pinoyau! Question lang, nagpa-assess ako from ACS year 2015. During the assessment, I was on my 3rd year with my current employer until now I am still connected with the company. Question is, my expiration ba ang ACS and need ko pa ba magpare-assess ulit?

Yup, need po pa re-assess given na expired na po ACS assessment, not unless kung nka kuha na po kayo ng ITA bago pa man ma expire yung result.

eischied_21 · November 2019

@Supersaiyan - ilang years po ang validity ng ACS? thank you

Supersaiyan · November 2019

@eischied_21 said:
@Supersaiyan - ilang years po ang validity ng ACS? thank you

2 years after the date it was issued.

TheRealMe24 · November 2019

@Supersaiyan for reassessment, need ko kumuha na ng ITR/Payslip noh? Ive asked my hr, wala na sila copy since I was hired 2009-2011 haist..

pumpkin · November 2019

Hi, we submitted EOI last weekend at 90 pts (with de facto partner) for visa 189 ICT Business Analyst. Mataas na po ba yung chance for invite if ganun? Wala kasi kaming idea about processing time. Thank you!

renly2328 · November 2019

@pumpkin congrats po ma'am. mataas po yan at malaki chance mainvite soon. minsan po nagbabasa ako sa ISCAH for information like predictions and trends.

https://www.iscah.com/will-get-189-invite-updated-predictions/

iamelem · November 2019

@ms_ane said:

@riedbach said:
Just an update po, after I submitted the explanation letter last thursday Nov21 (why I only submitted statutory declarations in the initial application) I finally got the positive result today Nov25.

So my view is that you can really get the result as early as 4weeks.
Oct15 - Submitted ACS application
Nov13 - CO requested missing document (Explanation Letter)
Nov21 - Submitted Explanation Letter + Statutory Declaration
Nov25 - Result Letter (AQF Bachelor Degree, -4yrs from exp)

Thank you @ms_ane for the guidance!
God bless to all applicants!

@riedbach yung stat declaration niyo po ba manager ang nagsign or pwde ba na colleague lang na same position ko? Thanks po.

riedbach · November 2019

@iamelem, same position will not be honored by ACS as per guidelines. In my case senior colleagues ko ang declarant at least 1 level higher sa iyo. I avoided the managers as I wanted my move as discreet as possible. hehe..

iamelem · November 2019

@riedbach said:

@iamelem, same position will not be honored by ACS as per guidelines. In my case senior colleagues ko ang declarant at least 1 level higher sa iyo. I avoided the managers as I wanted my move as discreet as possible. hehe..

Thank for the info @riedbach. Yung higher level sayo manager ba? Thanks

neanjavier · November 2019

may sample statutory declaration po ba kayo? pwede makahingi ng copy? Thanks in advance!

Doix14 · November 2019

@ms_ane said:

@Doix14 said:
Good eve po patulonb po sana @ms_ane or kung sino nka experience na. Nag apply po aq ACS last Oct 28,2019 at natangap q na po result. Di daw recognized school ko sa Anzco napili q khit nka section 2 nman. Pwde po ba pumili iba Anzco code which is TRA nman assesing bodies. TIA. God bless po.

hello kapatid. sorry to hear that. Parang ngayon lang din ako naka encounter ng ganyang outcome.
If you dont mind sharing the content of the outcome letter, makikitanggal mo nalang yung personal details para we can check for other forum members na posibleng may first hand experience.
Sa ngayon bago ka pumili ng ibang anzsco code, we need to understand muna bakit di nag ok ang outcome kasi you will be using the same docs sa ibang assessment and it will be worthwhile to know and ma figure out muna yung reason ng outcome.

@ms_ane said:

@Doix14 said:
Good eve po patulonb po sana @ms_ane or kung sino nka experience na. Nag apply po aq ACS last Oct 28,2019 at natangap q na po result. Di daw recognized school ko sa Anzco napili q khit nka section 2 nman. Pwde po ba pumili iba Anzco code which is TRA nman assesing bodies. TIA. God bless po.

hello kapatid. sorry to hear that. Parang ngayon lang din ako naka encounter ng ganyang outcome.
If you dont mind sharing the content of the outcome letter, makikitanggal mo nalang yung personal details para we can check for other forum members na posibleng may first hand experience.
Sa ngayon bago ka pumili ng ibang anzsco code, we need to understand muna bakit di nag ok ang outcome kasi you will be using the same docs sa ibang assessment and it will be worthwhile to know and ma figure out muna yung reason ng outcome.

@ms_ane Hindo po daw recognized ang school namin pra sa anzco code na yun nasa section 2 nman po sya,, try q nlng ibang code at sa TRA po aq papa assess this time,ok lng po kaya yun? Salamat po.

riedbach · November 2019

@iamelem said:

@riedbach said:

@iamelem, same position will not be honored by ACS as per guidelines. In my case senior colleagues ko ang declarant at least 1 level higher sa iyo. I avoided the managers as I wanted my move as discreet as possible. hehe..

Thank for the info @riedbach. Yung higher level sayo manager ba? Thanks

not necessarily manager. as long as mapakita mo sa COEs nyo na 1 level higher sya sayo. In my case lahat associate managers lang lahat ng declarants ko.

Supersaiyan · November 2019

Yup @TheRealMe24, tinanong ko po sa mismong ACS. Reply sa akin, though may previous application na ako na naexpired, sbi nila need pa rin ma meet or mag comply sa new ACS requirement guidelines even though it is merely re-assessment. Kaya no choice kundi sumunod, kung hndi baka negative outcome ang mangyari. Sakit nga po sa ulo nyan lalo na kung may stat dec kayo kagaya sa case ko, since aabalahin mo ng husto yung declarant ng stat dec dahil kelangan na din ng COE nya as a proof (yung iba syempre di maiiwasang magka doubt ksi baka malay nila sinasangkalan na nten sila na guarantor sa ating application), which is nkakahiya. In your case, bka pde na yung SSS contri since wala na tlga mkuha na ibang proof of payment. God bless po.

trafalgar · November 2019

hello po, tanong ko lang po if online generated bank statement is okay lang po as is, or keylangan pa po pumunta sa bank and mag request ng bank statement?

TheRealMe24 · December 2019

@Supersaiyan yes true.. nakakahiya nga talaga.. meron naman na akong sss and pagibig and nkaindicate yung employer.. we shall see how it goes. thanks and may God bless you,too.

pumpkin · December 2019

@renly2328 Ohh, thank you very much! Praying for it!

renly2328 · December 2019

Hello po question po dun sa employment reference for ACS assessment. meron po ba sainyo naghold ng 2 positions sa isang company? yung last assessment ko po kasi na almost 2yrs ago, di pa po ako napromote nun. kaya yung latest COE na hawak ko iba na position. dapat po ba 2 employment reference para sa 2 positions or pagsamahin nalang both sa isa?

thank you po in advance!