Accountant

examiner30 · January 2013

Naku hindi ko maalala kung kasali na ba dati ang work exp sa assessment.

nalilito na tuloy ako. ang isa pa palang nakita kong problema sa assessment ko ang sabi your academic qualifications are suitable fir migration under ASCO 2211-11 -Accountant eh fi ba nagchange na ng code since 2011 yata yun. Salamat ulit.

lock_code2004 · January 2013

eto po ang nakalagay sa FAQs section ng CPAA:

Q. If I have already received a suitable assessment from CPA Australia under the ASCO criteria, will you consider my skilled employment or my academic qualifications for the purposes of DIAC awarding points? A.
If you have already obtained a suitable skills assessment for your nominated occupation before 1 July 2011 and apply for a visa on or after 1 July 2011, the Department of Immigration and Citizenship will advise if you need to obtain further advice on your qualifications or skilled employment from CPA Australia. This information will be requested if required to support your claims when the application is assessed.

http://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/cps/rde/xchg/cpa-site/hs.xsl/become-how-migration-faq.html

- based on this, i guess pwede naman po talga. i nominate nyo po ang corresponding new ANZSCO code ng Accountant..
- kung okay po ang mga COE+Job description nyo, at maverify ng DIAC, they can grant points sa work experience nyo, otherwise yan nga po, kailangan nyo daw magpa-assess.
- i guess wala naman pong problema... pag naka-apply kayo at nagka CO na.. umaandar na ang application nyo..

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@examiner30 - from CPAA:

Previous migration assessment applicants
If you have previously had a skills assessment with CPA Australia and you need to update it, you might not need to re-apply. If your application is still valid, all you need to do is send us the documents you would like included in your update. Attach a cover letter to your documents and make sure you include your reference number. If you’re not sure if your previous application is still valid, contact us for assistance.

http://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/cps/rde/xchg/cpa-site/hs.xsl/about-migration-how-apply.html

Bigfoot · January 2013

@pyschoboy, thanks bro. I'll be submitting my papers for the CPAA assessment this Friday, I hope I will get good results.

@examiner30, i think nasagot nman na ni lock_code most of your questions. RE your new employment experience as bank examiner, I think this can contribute para sa higher points mo sa work experience kasi it still involves examination of internal controls for banks. I think in your COE for your bank examiner job, you might want to highlight to your HR na ihighlight yung mga duties and responsibilities closely related sa description ng nominated ANZSCO code nyo. You can refer to the following link for the job description for Accountants.

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/Latestproducts/58B355BFB20DA9D9CA2575DF002DA69F?opendocument

God bless!

Bigfoot · January 2013

I just want to know for those people na nakapagpassess na sa CPAA, anong ilalagay nila sa letter nila - that you meet the criteria of an Australian Bachelor's degree or diploma equivalent?

As for the skills assessment (kung pasado ka sa Bachelor's degree criteria), will they also indicate how many years of relevant experience they think you have or can claim?

From CPAA assessment above, will these be your basis in claiming points in EOI?

Thanks?

HMC · January 2013

Hi. bago lang po ako sa site na to. nabasa ko po kasi mga comments niyo about CPA australia. Ano po unang gagawin kung gusto mong mapractice ang pagka CPA mo sa Australia? CPA po ako sa pilipinas

vhoythoy · January 2013

@psychoboy, I understand and thanks anyway. Yup, I have prepared the duties and responsibilities that I intend to attach with my statutory declaration in lieu of the COE from my previous and current employers. I was just intrigued when I read about your comment on your wife's detailed COE which ran to 6 pages and I thought I might have missed some of the duties performed in audit or maybe my description of the duties are not as detailed as your wife's.
Regards

When i've requested certificate of employment from SGV, they have already template for the detailed job descriptions requirementsfor immigration. I think around 3 pages din yata (nasa pinas pa kasi pinakuha ko lang sa wife ko) which they provided together with the certificate of employment.

Unfortunately, for my 2 employers here in Singapore, one is audit firm, wala akong nakuhang detailed job descriptions. So most likely mag statutory declarations nlang ako. =(

vhoythoy · January 2013

Hi. bago lang po ako sa site na to. nabasa ko po kasi mga comments niyo about CPA australia. Ano po unang gagawin kung gusto mong mapractice ang pagka CPA mo sa Australia? CPA po ako sa pilipinas

Kung gusto mo maging CPA Australia, punta ka sa CPA Australia website , fill-up ka assessment form may bayad nsa 150 sgd yata. then pag approved yun magiging associate ka ng CPA Australia. Kung hindi sa foundation level path ka muna. Then may mga exams ka i take, nsa 900+ sgd yata bawat sections/modules, mga 4 yata not sure depende sa exemptions na makukuha mo. I think CPA Australia is not that hard to complete and pass, pero costly kasi dahil sa membership and exams and may enrollment dates na susundin. Mas madali sya compared sa CA (Chartered Accountant) path or ACCA (UK based). CPA in Australia is Certified Practising Accountant not the acronym in PH na based sa America. .

Pero kung gusto mo lang ipractice yung pagiging CPA mo sa pinas sa Australia, you cannot do it by the license or acronym alone. Generally, outside the Philippines, our licensed/ certifications doesnt carry much weight. They will patronise their own local licensed/ certifications. Global certifications or certifications from other bigger countries like UK or US is also good. Overall your skills and past experience is much important and your main weapon to land a job abroad.

TasBurrfoot · January 2013

I just want to know for those people na nakapagpassess na sa CPAA, anong ilalagay nila sa letter nila - that you meet the criteria of an Australian Bachelor's degree or diploma equivalent?

As for the skills assessment (kung pasado ka sa Bachelor's degree criteria), will they also indicate how many years of relevant experience they think you have or can claim?

From CPAA assessment above, will these be your basis in claiming points in EOI?

Thanks?

The assessment result will how a line which goes like:

"A formal qualification assessed as comparable to Australian Bachelor Degree" - there will also be a part there wherein it will show how many mandatory/optional courses were judged as completed or satisfied...

The skills assessment will also show the number of relevant work experience that is recognized by CPAA - all of these can be used as basis for the point you may claim upon lodgement of EOI.

TasBurrfoot · January 2013

@psychoboy, I understand and thanks anyway. Yup, I have prepared the duties and responsibilities that I intend to attach with my statutory declaration in lieu of the COE from my previous and current employers. I was just intrigued when I read about your comment on your wife's detailed COE which ran to 6 pages and I thought I might have missed some of the duties performed in audit or maybe my description of the duties are not as detailed as your wife's.
Regards
When i've requested certificate of employment from SGV, they have already template for the detailed job descriptions requirementsfor immigration. I think around 3 pages din yata (nasa pinas pa kasi pinakuha ko lang sa wife ko) which they provided together with the certificate of employment.

Unfortunately, for my 2 employers here in Singapore, one is audit firm, wala akong nakuhang detailed job descriptions. So most likely mag statutory declarations nlang ako. =(

Statutory Declaration is fine @vhoythoy - just make sure to provide additional documents to PROVE that you are indeed employed under your companies in SG - contract, previous payslip, IDs, etc...

Also indicate the reason as to why a detailed COE is not available.

Bigfoot · January 2013

@pschoboy, thanks bro!

vhoythoy · January 2013

@psychoboy, I understand and thanks anyway. Yup, I have prepared the duties and responsibilities that I intend to attach with my statutory declaration in lieu of the COE from my previous and current employers. I was just intrigued when I read about your comment on your wife's detailed COE which ran to 6 pages and I thought I might have missed some of the duties performed in audit or maybe my description of the duties are not as detailed as your wife's.
Regards
When i've requested certificate of employment from SGV, they have already template for the detailed job descriptions requirementsfor immigration. I think around 3 pages din yata (nasa pinas pa kasi pinakuha ko lang sa wife ko) which they provided together with the certificate of employment.

Unfortunately, for my 2 employers here in Singapore, one is audit firm, wala akong nakuhang detailed job descriptions. So most likely mag statutory declarations nlang ako. =(
Statutory Declaration is fine @vhoythoy - just make sure to provide additional documents to PROVE that you are indeed employed under your companies in SG - contract, previous payslip, IDs, etc...

Also indicate the reason as to why a detailed COE is not available.

I have generic COE printed in company letter, payslip, contracts, and IRAS form to support the statutory declarations. Sama ko na din yung email conversation namin ng HR requesting for detailed job descriptions and yung reply nila na generic template lang kaya nila ibigay. nila. Bahala na, magastos lang at hassle statutory declarations pero no choice

Bigfoot · January 2013

@psychoboy, I understand and thanks anyway. Yup, I have prepared the duties and responsibilities that I intend to attach with my statutory declaration in lieu of the COE from my previous and current employers. I was just intrigued when I read about your comment on your wife's detailed COE which ran to 6 pages and I thought I might have missed some of the duties performed in audit or maybe my description of the duties are not as detailed as your wife's.
Regards
When i've requested certificate of employment from SGV, they have already template for the detailed job descriptions requirementsfor immigration. I think around 3 pages din yata (nasa pinas pa kasi pinakuha ko lang sa wife ko) which they provided together with the certificate of employment.

Unfortunately, for my 2 employers here in Singapore, one is audit firm, wala akong nakuhang detailed job descriptions. So most likely mag statutory declarations nlang ako. =(

@ vhoytoy, baka nman pede makisilip sa standard template ng SGV for duties and responsibilities ng Associate to Senior?

Bigfoot · January 2013

@vhoytoy, bro just for your info yung stat dec service sa AU High Commission is S$26 and additional S$26 for binding kung may attachments ka.

vhoythoy · January 2013

@psychoboy, I understand and thanks anyway. Yup, I have prepared the duties and responsibilities that I intend to attach with my statutory declaration in lieu of the COE from my previous and current employers. I was just intrigued when I read about your comment on your wife's detailed COE which ran to 6 pages and I thought I might have missed some of the duties performed in audit or maybe my description of the duties are not as detailed as your wife's.
Regards
When i've requested certificate of employment from SGV, they have already template for the detailed job descriptions requirementsfor immigration. I think around 3 pages din yata (nasa pinas pa kasi pinakuha ko lang sa wife ko) which they provided together with the certificate of employment.

Unfortunately, for my 2 employers here in Singapore, one is audit firm, wala akong nakuhang detailed job descriptions. So most likely mag statutory declarations nlang ako. =(
@ vhoytoy, baka nman pede makisilip sa standard template ng SGV for duties and responsibilities ng Associate to Senior?

Ok kaso nasa pinas pa yung hard copy, hindi ko na pinadala dito sa SG kasi nga uuwi din ako sa Feb 10 sa pinas. Kung makakahintay ka, balik ako ng feb 18 sg then send ko sayo scanned copy. Pero jd yun ng senior associate of risk advisory services, di kasi ako external audit sa SGV, pero hindi ko pa nababasa yung details ng nilagay nila dun.

Ok, $26 lang pala, pero ang mag sign lang ba is ako at yung mag notarised? HIndi ko kasi pwede hilahin mag pirma yung boss kong local hehe

Bigfoot · January 2013

@vhoythoy, risk advisory pala, ibang JD nun. Thanks for the offer though.

as for the stat dec, pede mo download ung form dito - http://www.ag.gov.au/Publications/Pages/Statutorydeclarations.aspx

tapos fill-up mo lang with the details ng gusto mo ideclare then attach mo ung mga supporting docs mo (COE, signed contract, etc.)

bale ung stat dec, dalhin mo sa AU High Commission then dun mo pirmahan infront of the witnessing authority tapos nun ibabind nila ung signed stat dec together with the supporting docs.

vhoythoy · January 2013

@vhoythoy, risk advisory pala, ibang JD nun. Thanks for the offer though.

as for the stat dec, pede mo download ung form dito - http://www.ag.gov.au/Publications/Pages/Statutorydeclarations.aspx

tapos fill-up mo lang with the details ng gusto mo ideclare then attach mo ung mga supporting docs mo (COE, signed contract, etc.)

bale ung stat dec, dalhin mo sa AU High Commission then dun mo pirmahan infront of the witnessing authority tapos nun ibabind nila ung signed stat dec together with the supporting docs.

Nice. Yup, tsaka dito din sa Singapore Risk Management group ako kaya internal audit ang skillset na inaapply ko sa vetasses. Yung supporting docs photocopy ng original na na CTC na ba? Yung stat declartion na notarised naba bago dalhin sa kanila or sila na mag notarise at magtatatak kasama ng attachment?

TasBurrfoot · January 2013

@vhoythoy, risk advisory pala, ibang JD nun. Thanks for the offer though.

as for the stat dec, pede mo download ung form dito - http://www.ag.gov.au/Publications/Pages/Statutorydeclarations.aspx

tapos fill-up mo lang with the details ng gusto mo ideclare then attach mo ung mga supporting docs mo (COE, signed contract, etc.)

bale ung stat dec, dalhin mo sa AU High Commission then dun mo pirmahan infront of the witnessing authority tapos nun ibabind nila ung signed stat dec together with the supporting docs.
Nice. Yup, tsaka dito din sa Singapore Risk Management group ako kaya internal audit ang skillset na apply ko sa vetasses. Yung supporting docs photocopy ng orignal na na CTC na ba? Yung stat declration na notarised nba bago dalhin sa kanila or sila na mag notarised at magtatatak kasmaa ng attachment?

It is in front of Gleneagle Hospital - besides the American Embassy!

vhoythoy · January 2013

It is in front of Gleneagle Hospital - besides the American Embassy!

OK salamat, mag pa stat nalang ako para sigurado.

examiner30 · January 2013

Thanks for all the answers mates. I have read the FAQs from the CPAA website before and I thought they were referring to Academic updates only and since wala naman nadagdag sa education ko diko na masyadong pinansin. hehe Sila na din pala nag aassess ng qualified work experience for the nominated ANZCO code ngayon.

Tama po ba ang intindi ko na kung gusto ko magpa update I will just send the additional documents, in my case, the COE and job description. Nalilito kasi ako kasi nung nagpa assess ako di naman nila ginagamit ang work exp na basis eh nabasa ko to sa FAQs:

Q. I had an assessment completed under the old rules and want to update or review it. Will a reassessment be under the current rules?
A. Yes. All requests for updates or reviews of an assessment result will now be assessed under the current criteria, regardless of when you submitted your first application for assessment.

If that will be the case, I have to seat for an Acad IELTS, right? Hayyy, I just hope pag maka OBS 7 na ako sa GT di na ako i-require ng DIAC mag update sa CPAA.

jaggedsoul · January 2013

hello po, i noticed that most of you guys nominated accountant as the skilled occupation. Anyone nominating external auditor as their skilled occupation?

Hannah · January 2013

@vhoythoy ...hello question Lang po..ok Lang po b mag passes sa CPA Australia khit wala pang Ielta?

TasBurrfoot · January 2013

@vhoythoy ...hello question Lang po..ok Lang po b mag passes sa CPA Australia khit wala pang Ielta?

I think I have answered you this in another post of yours...

NO - IELTS first before skills assessment

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@examiner30 - you have the same case with @jane..
she replied to you on another thread.. and confirmed that you dont need to have a re-assessment, and only IELTS GT is needed..

check her timeline, she now has invitation to lodge a visa application.. check:
http://www.pinoyau.info/discussion/454/skilled-migration-points-test-under-skillselect-point-system-on-july-2012#Item_239

jane · January 2013

@lock_code2004, copy paste ko na lng po ung sagot ko sa kabila para po mabasa nya.

jane · January 2013

Thanks for all the answers mates. I have read the FAQs from the CPAA website before and I thought they were referring to Academic updates only and since wala naman nadagdag sa education ko diko na masyadong pinansin. hehe Sila na din pala nag aassess ng qualified work experience for the nominated ANZCO code ngayon.

Tama po ba ang intindi ko na kung gusto ko magpa update I will just send the additional documents, in my case, the COE and job description. Nalilito kasi ako kasi nung nagpa assess ako di naman nila ginagamit ang work exp na basis eh nabasa ko to sa FAQs:

Q. I had an assessment completed under the old rules and want to update or review it. Will a reassessment be under the current rules?
A. Yes. All requests for updates or reviews of an assessment result will now be assessed under the current criteria, regardless of when you submitted your first application for assessment.

If that will be the case, I have to seat for an Acad IELTS, right? Hayyy, I just hope pag maka OBS 7 na ako sa GT di na ako i-require ng DIAC mag update sa CPAA.

Hindi nyo na po kailangan ng reassessment as long na valid pa po ung dating assessment nyo. Kung 2010 po kau nagpaassess, I'm sure valid pa po yan kc during that time, 5 years po ung binibigay nilang validity ng assessment. Ganun din po kc sakin. Nung nagpa assess po ako, hindi rin po ako nagpasa ng COE.

GT lang po ang kailangan sa IELTS. Yan din po ang problema ko dati. 2010 ako nakakuha ng favorable assessment from CPAA. Nagtake po ako ng IELTS nung June 2011, General lang po nitake ko. Nakapag lodge na po ako ng visa gamit ung assessment ko nung 2010 at GT na IELTS. If meron na po kau IELTS (General), ok na po yan. Magsubmit na po kau ng EOI pra mainvite na agad. Goodluck & god bless po..

examiner30 · January 2013

@jane wow thank you so much for the info. nApapatatag mo ang paniniwala ko. hehe maraming salamat talaga. hinihintay ko lang din result ng ielts ko. Sana nga maka 7 na ako para makapag next step na. Question pa, nag iba ka din ba ng employer after ng assessment mo?

@lock_code maraming salamat din for always answering our queries. i wish all of us here a visa grant and a good life in Aus after.

jane · January 2013

@examiner30, hindi ako nag iba ng employer after assessment. kung sakali man nagchange ka ng employer, i think that doesn't matter naman..

d ako naka 7 in 4 modules ng ielts. 6.5 ako sa writing. check mo ung points mo, kung aabot naman kahit walang points sa ielts, pwede ka na rin magsubmit ng EOI. Or other option mo is state sponsorship which i also did.

Brian83 · January 2013

@examiner30, hindi ako nag iba ng employer after assessment. kung sakali man nagchange ka ng employer, i think that doesn't matter naman..

d ako naka 7 in 4 modules ng ielts. 6.5 ako sa writing. check mo ung points mo, kung aabot naman kahit walang points sa ielts, pwede ka na rin magsubmit ng EOI. Or other option mo is state sponsorship which i also did.

Hi Jane,

Will state sponsorship not require a skills assessment from any of the accounting bodies? If you did not get the minimum score in ielts that would not qualify you for an assessment. thanks.

lock_code2004 · January 2013

Hi Jane,

Will state sponsorship not require a skills assessment from any of the accounting bodies? If you did not get the minimum score in ielts that would not qualify you for an assessment. thanks.

Hi, If I may answer.. the assessment was done by CPAA, but at that time (year 2010), IELTS was not a requirement yet by the assessing authority...