Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

EngrCyAlex · July 2020

Hi. Nagsstart na po ako gumawa ng cdr. Meron po kaya ako link na pwede basahin about sa units and elements of competency in simple words? Haha. Inuulit ulit ko na basahin yung sa msa ang hirap intindihin. Hehehe. If meron lang po. 🙂

MumVeng · July 2020

@EngrCyAlex said:
Hi. Nagsstart na po ako gumawa ng cdr. Meron po kaya ako link na pwede basahin about sa units and elements of competency in simple words? Haha. Inuulit ulit ko na basahin yung sa msa ang hirap intindihin. Hehehe. If meron lang po. 🙂

May explanations po sa page 32. Pero kung mahirap pa din po intindihin, ask lang po kayo dito kung anong element ang malabo. Baka po makapagbigay ng specific examples ang mga members.

RheaMARN1171933 · July 2020

@japjap1001 said:
@ Captain_A, @juju06, @ RheaMARN1171933, @jakibantiles Thank you sa mga information na nashare you. actually ang school ko ay under section 3 kaya need ko talaga magsubmit ng PRC. medyo nagiisip din ako if ipursue ko ang Electronics Engineer na nomination or magelectronics trade worker nalang ako under TRA. sabi nila mas madali daw ang requirements sa TRA. any comments on this?

If I was your agent, I would advise you to nominate a different occupation instead as long as the tasks match what you do. Firstly there’s a higher chance of achieving a successful skills assessment outcome and secondly it will be less competitive at eoi stage. The only disadvantage with TRA is you have to make sure your docs are complete on your submission as they will decide on what you will provide. They won’t chase you for further docs. So if hindi sufficient yung docs mo you will most likely fail the assessment.

RheaMARN1171933 · July 2020

@Aya20 said:

@Linetdane said:
@Aya20

Check mo tong link na to:
https://pinoyau.info/plugin/page/accredited-schools/A

Check your school if it falls under Section 2 or 3, need mo nga ng PRC.

Wala akong experience sa BIR 2316 kasi yung samin ni hubby pinasa lang namin is proof ng SSS contributions, isang payslip at COE. Umokey naman.

Hi @Linetdane thank you. nagpasa ako ng COE at SSS contribution, wala lng akong payslip pero hinihingan p dn ako ng BIR 2316.
Chinek ko ung link nagfall under section 2 yung school ko..pano kaya un e wla nmn tlga kaming prc license...

Unfortunately it will be a negative outcome due to you failing to meet the bachelor degree level.

japjap1001 · July 2020

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@japjap1001 said:
@ Captain_A, @juju06, @ RheaMARN1171933, @jakibantiles Thank you sa mga information na nashare you. actually ang school ko ay under section 3 kaya need ko talaga magsubmit ng PRC. medyo nagiisip din ako if ipursue ko ang Electronics Engineer na nomination or magelectronics trade worker nalang ako under TRA. sabi nila mas madali daw ang requirements sa TRA. any comments on this?

If I was your agent, I would advise you to nominate a different occupation instead as long as the tasks match what you do. Firstly there’s a higher chance of achieving a successful skills assessment outcome and secondly it will be less competitive at eoi stage. The only disadvantage with TRA is you have to make sure your docs are complete on your submission as they will decide on what you will provide. They won’t chase you for further docs. So if hindi sufficient yung docs mo you will most likely fail the assessment.

Yes. Nabasa ko nga sa kabilang forum and sa TRA mismo na dapat "must be decision ready" ang mga isusubmit. sa TRA ba need pa yung PRC License if ang school is under section 3? maraming salamat sa advise

RheaMARN1171933 · July 2020

@japjap1001 said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@japjap1001 said:
@ Captain_A, @juju06, @ RheaMARN1171933, @jakibantiles Thank you sa mga information na nashare you. actually ang school ko ay under section 3 kaya need ko talaga magsubmit ng PRC. medyo nagiisip din ako if ipursue ko ang Electronics Engineer na nomination or magelectronics trade worker nalang ako under TRA. sabi nila mas madali daw ang requirements sa TRA. any comments on this?

If I was your agent, I would advise you to nominate a different occupation instead as long as the tasks match what you do. Firstly there’s a higher chance of achieving a successful skills assessment outcome and secondly it will be less competitive at eoi stage. The only disadvantage with TRA is you have to make sure your docs are complete on your submission as they will decide on what you will provide. They won’t chase you for further docs. So if hindi sufficient yung docs mo you will most likely fail the assessment.

Yes. Nabasa ko nga sa kabilang forum and sa TRA mismo na dapat "must be decision ready" ang mga isusubmit. sa TRA ba need pa yung PRC License if ang school is under section 3? maraming salamat sa advise

You will always need PRC so you’re qualification can be recognised as equivalent to an Australian bachelor degree if the institution you graduated from is listed in section 2. This goes for all assessing bodies as they all refer to the CEP when checking the equivalence of a qualification. However, you’ll be nominating a trade occupation to be assessed by TRA, most likely a degree isn’t a requirement. I don’t know what occupation you’ll applying Assessmentl for. You’ll have to check with TRA requirements.

You’ll also need PRC if you want to claim 15 points on qualification. Hope that helps.

shaL · July 2020

hi... My husband and I (Civil engineer po both) is planning to go to Australia, I'm thinking of the student visa since I think its the easiest visa to obtain, kaso I saw din po yung visa 189 so I'm thinking why not try, I tried po yung sa point system result and around 70pts. naman po , ang problema ko ngayon is yung accreditation ni Engineers Australia , so happened na nasa section 2 yung university namin baka hindi kami ma-credit. Pa advice naman po, will we push student visa or visa 189?. Thank you in advance.

jove · July 2020

Hello po, anong ibig sabihin po nung sections 1,2 & 3 sa mga approved universities sa Pinas? Ano po ba ang difference ng EA at TRA?

EngrCyAlex · July 2020

Hi. Anyone here na alam po how to check gsis contribution po? Di po kasi ako SSS. Sa govt po kasi ako nagwowork. Nagsearch ako sa google pero wala po malinaw na procedure e.

jove · July 2020

@Linetdane said:

@jove said:
@Linetdane yung JD ko naman ay nagtutugma sa ANZSCO for Civil Engineer.
Salamat po sa response

Yun po ang importante.

@Linetdane said:

@jove said:
@Linetdane yung JD ko naman ay nagtutugma sa ANZSCO for Civil Engineer.
Salamat po sa response

Yun po ang importante.

@Linetdane may additional tanong ako, yung school ko kasi under section 2, does it mean it really required PRC license even my experience is in Dubai?

Salamat po in advance

Linetdane · July 2020

@jove said:
@Linetdane may additional tanong ako, yung school ko kasi under section 2, does it mean it really required PRC license even my experience is in Dubai?

Salamat po in advance

2 po kasi ang i-aassess ni EA yung school at experience. If your school falls at Section 1 and no PRC and no experience sa pinas, no issue. Not sure po if Section 2 kung paano. Sorry po. Wait tayo sa iba na makakasagot.

RheaMARN1171933 · July 2020

@Linetdane said:

@jove said:
@Linetdane may additional tanong ako, yung school ko kasi under section 2, does it mean it really required PRC license even my experience is in Dubai?

Salamat po in advance

2 po kasi ang i-aassess ni EA yung school at experience. If your school falls at Section 1 and no PRC and no experience sa pinas, no issue. Not sure po if Section 2 kung paano. Sorry po. Wait tayo sa iba na makakasagot.

If section 2, PRC is needed for the qualification be recognised as equivalent to an Australian bachelor degree

jove · July 2020

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Linetdane said:

@jove said:
@Linetdane may additional tanong ako, yung school ko kasi under section 2, does it mean it really required PRC license even my experience is in Dubai?

Salamat po in advance

2 po kasi ang i-aassess ni EA yung school at experience. If your school falls at Section 1 and no PRC and no experience sa pinas, no issue. Not sure po if Section 2 kung paano. Sorry po. Wait tayo sa iba na makakasagot.

If section 2, PRC is needed for the qualification be recognised as equivalent to an Australian bachelor degree

@RheaMARN1171933 kahit experience ko hindi sa pinas at nasa Dubai? It really required?

RheaMARN1171933 · July 2020

@jove said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Linetdane said:

@jove said:
@Linetdane may additional tanong ako, yung school ko kasi under section 2, does it mean it really required PRC license even my experience is in Dubai?

Salamat po in advance

2 po kasi ang i-aassess ni EA yung school at experience. If your school falls at Section 1 and no PRC and no experience sa pinas, no issue. Not sure po if Section 2 kung paano. Sorry po. Wait tayo sa iba na makakasagot.

If section 2, PRC is needed for the qualification be recognised as equivalent to an Australian bachelor degree

@RheaMARN1171933 kahit experience ko hindi sa pinas at nasa Dubai? It really required?

The assessing authority does lot have a call in the qualification. They just follow what’s set out on the Country Education Profile.

Ed510 · July 2020

@japjap1001 said:
Hi, Good Day! ECE graduate po ako and may MBA degree din ako din sa pinas. medyo related din ang experience ko as an ECE at medyo naapply din yung masters degree ko sa current work.

is it advisable po na iinclude ko yung masters degree sa application knowing na unrelated ito sa bachelors degree ko? gusto ko kasi sana isama dahil wala sa recognized school yung BS degree ko and yung sa masters ko ay included sa recognized school?

in addition, malaking factor din po ba ang pagkakaroon ng PRC License? may nabasa kasi ako na thread dito regarding sa PRC license na ginagawa siyang supporting documents?

any advise po? Salamat po ng marami!

@japjap1001
Sa CDR mo, e-include mo yung MBA degree mo as further studies mo. Need din kasi ang further studies mo like your MBA to your assessment. Lahat ng Master's degree mo included yan.
Also sa EngineersAustralia, first thing is to assess your work experience related to BS-ECE that would support your claim na youre practicing Electronics Engineering.
If that supports, they will recognize your years of experience, bachelors degree at your MBA as higher degree attained.
Another, need talaga yung PRC as supporting document. Actually primary supporting document yun for BS-ECE.
Take note po, Electronics Engineering po ang assessment. Dapat lahat ng documents mo supporting that claim.

Ed510 · July 2020

@MejoMayabang said:
Hi Engineers,

Gusto ko magmigrate jan Australia at nabasa ko ung visa 189 pero eto ung mga problema hiniharap ko, I hope you can give me a direct and comprehensive response:

35yrs old ECE Graduate pero never ako nagtrabaho sa field ko tapos hindi pa maganda ung school ko. Mayroon na ba naka move sa AUS kahit malayo course sa trabaho?

However I did short courses sa BCA Singapore and here in Malaysia as well. Ang dami kong nababasa halos lahat same field sa course nila.

10yrs overseas experience worked in Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong and Middle East. I believe my potential ako for visa 189.

Well (being direct) mejo may kaya kami, ung kapatid ko 2 nasa Australia (Melbourne at Gold Coast) naka training visa at isa nag mamasters. Pwede ba ako mag short cut meaning kahit sila na lng kumuha sa akin sa Australia? Parang sa USA pwede mo sponsoran family members mo tapos makukuha mo sila. Please advice kung my ganito?

Eto lang alam at gagawin ko since hindi pa naman nagpapapasok ang AUS, mag take muna ako PTE or IELTS tama ba then proceed from there.

Lastly iniwan ako ng legal wife ko! kaya nawalan nako ng pagasa sa buhay, became single dad pa girlfriend girlfriend lang. Aral pa naman un sa ibang bansa kaya alam ko mataas chance ko maging PR. Isasama ko ba sa application ko kasi mataas magiging points namin pero my kasama na sya iba?

Apply sa New Zealand since madami na sa Australia, any advice how to start from here?

SSwerte nyo at sa mga nababasa ko dito buo ung family nyo at nakuha ko. Paano naman ung single dad na iniwan ng asawa, same case tulad ko.

Salamat sa magrereply and share you experience step-by-step.

Thanks,

Mejo Mayabang - btw since yan ang name ko gwapo ako in-person.

Kung wala kang experience sa Electronics Engineering...malabong ma assess ka sa Electronics Engineer. Pero kung graduate ka ng UP Diliman, Ateneo, La Salle.. pwede ka. Exempted kasi.

jove · July 2020

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@jove said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Linetdane said:

@jove said:
@Linetdane may additional tanong ako, yung school ko kasi under section 2, does it mean it really required PRC license even my experience is in Dubai?

Salamat po in advance

2 po kasi ang i-aassess ni EA yung school at experience. If your school falls at Section 1 and no PRC and no experience sa pinas, no issue. Not sure po if Section 2 kung paano. Sorry po. Wait tayo sa iba na makakasagot.

If section 2, PRC is needed for the qualification be recognised as equivalent to an Australian bachelor degree

@RheaMARN1171933 kahit experience ko hindi sa pinas at nasa Dubai? It really required?

The assessing authority does lot have a call in the qualification. They just follow what’s set out on the Country Education Profile.

@RheaMARN1171933 salamat po sa sagot, ano po ang pwede ninyong ma-recommend na pwede kung ma-apply pra sa assessment ng EA?

Thank you in advance

engr.len · July 2020

@Ed510 said:

@MejoMayabang said:
Hi Engineers,

Gusto ko magmigrate jan Australia at nabasa ko ung visa 189 pero eto ung mga problema hiniharap ko, I hope you can give me a direct and comprehensive response:

35yrs old ECE Graduate pero never ako nagtrabaho sa field ko tapos hindi pa maganda ung school ko. Mayroon na ba naka move sa AUS kahit malayo course sa trabaho?

However I did short courses sa BCA Singapore and here in Malaysia as well. Ang dami kong nababasa halos lahat same field sa course nila.

10yrs overseas experience worked in Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong and Middle East. I believe my potential ako for visa 189.

Well (being direct) mejo may kaya kami, ung kapatid ko 2 nasa Australia (Melbourne at Gold Coast) naka training visa at isa nag mamasters. Pwede ba ako mag short cut meaning kahit sila na lng kumuha sa akin sa Australia? Parang sa USA pwede mo sponsoran family members mo tapos makukuha mo sila. Please advice kung my ganito?

Eto lang alam at gagawin ko since hindi pa naman nagpapapasok ang AUS, mag take muna ako PTE or IELTS tama ba then proceed from there.

Lastly iniwan ako ng legal wife ko! kaya nawalan nako ng pagasa sa buhay, became single dad pa girlfriend girlfriend lang. Aral pa naman un sa ibang bansa kaya alam ko mataas chance ko maging PR. Isasama ko ba sa application ko kasi mataas magiging points namin pero my kasama na sya iba?

Apply sa New Zealand since madami na sa Australia, any advice how to start from here?

SSwerte nyo at sa mga nababasa ko dito buo ung family nyo at nakuha ko. Paano naman ung single dad na iniwan ng asawa, same case tulad ko.

Salamat sa magrereply and share you experience step-by-step.

Thanks,

Mejo Mayabang - btw since yan ang name ko gwapo ako in-person.

Kung wala kang experience sa Electronics Engineering...malabong ma assess ka sa Electronics Engineer. Pero kung graduate ka ng UP Diliman, Ateneo, La Salle.. pwede ka. Exempted kasi.

hi Sir, graduate po ako ng Adamson University, saan po makikita ung school section? tsaka may sample CDR po kayo pwede po ba akong mahingi ng sample? thank you po. graduate po ako ng ECE at board passer. more than 7 yrs experience na po ako sa telecom industry.

jovelyn · July 2020

Hi. Nagsstart na po ako gumawa ng cdr, baka meron kayong sample CDR for CE pra gawin kung reference. heto po email : [email protected]

Salamat ng marami

kkkaaaccc · July 2020

Hello po, kailangan po bang authenticated ang mga documents na ipapasa? Paadvice naman po kung ano mga kailangan gawin. Salamat.

japjap1001 · July 2020

@engr.len said:
hi Sir, graduate po ako ng Adamson University, saan po makikita ung school section? tsaka may sample CDR po kayo pwede po ba akong mahingi ng sample? thank you po. graduate po ako ng ECE at board passer. more than 7 yrs experience na po ako sa telecom industry.

Hi, pwede mo makita yung section ng school sa may tab sa taas ng webpage under schools & sections or via this link https://pinoyau.info/plugin/page/schools-sections

japjap1001 · July 2020

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

You will always need PRC so you’re qualification can be recognised as equivalent to an Australian bachelor degree if the institution you graduated from is listed in section 2. This goes for all assessing bodies as they all refer to the CEP when checking the equivalence of a qualification. However, you’ll be nominating a trade occupation to be assessed by TRA, most likely a degree isn’t a requirement. I don’t know what occupation you’ll applying Assessmentl for. You’ll have to check with TRA requirements.

You’ll also need PRC if you want to claim 15 points on qualification. Hope that helps.

@Ed510 said:
Sa CDR mo, e-include mo yung MBA degree mo as further studies mo. Need din kasi ang further studies mo like your MBA to your assessment. Lahat ng Master's degree mo included yan.
Also sa EngineersAustralia, first thing is to assess your work experience related to BS-ECE that would support your claim na youre practicing Electronics Engineering.
If that supports, they will recognize your years of experience, bachelors degree at your MBA as higher degree attained.
Another, need talaga yung PRC as supporting document. Actually primary supporting document yun for BS-ECE.
Take note po, Electronics Engineering po ang assessment. Dapat lahat ng documents mo supporting that claim.

@RheaMARN1171933
yes. sobrang naliliwanagan na ko sa gagawin ko. thanks to your inputs:) medyo iniisip ko nalang which path to take:)

@Ed510 Salamat sa input. oo nga nanghihinayang kasi ako na hindi ideclare sa EA assessment. balak ko kasi dati sa eoi nalang siya declare. pero mas maganda sa EA palang nabangit ko na siya. hindi ako aware na may further studies section ang CDR. anyway check ko ito. importante madeclare siya without affecting yung BS ECE qualification ko kasi yun naman talaga ipapaassess ko.

parang intindi ko EA will assess your experience based on your academic background kung related sa nominated occupation at kung valid ba magclaim ng experience. then sa Immigration, they will consider the highest educational qualification you have? tama ba? TIA:)

Captain_A · July 2020

@kkkaaaccc said:
Hello po, kailangan po bang authenticated ang mga documents na ipapasa? Paadvice naman po kung ano mga kailangan gawin. Salamat.

in my time i uploaded clear colored scanned copies of the original docs

EngrCyAlex · July 2020

Ano po font style at font size ginagamit sa cdr?

nashmacoy101 · July 2020

@EngrCyAlex said:
Ano po font style at font size ginagamit sa cdr?

kung wala po naka specify sa MSA booklet kahit ano po basta formal fonts like calibri, arial o times new roman.

EngrCyAlex · July 2020

@nashmacoy101 said:

@EngrCyAlex said:
Ano po font style at font size ginagamit sa cdr?

kung wala po naka specify sa MSA booklet kahit ano po basta formal fonts like calibri, arial o times new roman.

Salamat po. ❤

silverbullet · July 2020

Hi everyone,

Gusto ko mag pasalamat sa mga tumulong sakin ma kuha itong positive outcome sa assessment.
Share ko lang itong experience ko, noong June 9, nag lodge ako sa EA and then meron na akong outcome noong July 3 pero ang nang yare pina rewrite sa akin ung CDR ko kasi hnd daw fit sa anzco code ko na ME at nag ask sila ng about sa SSS ko, SSS must be extracted from the SSS website. hindi dapat un parang copy paste lng or picture or screen shot. then, nang hingi din sila ng work pass ko dito sa SG kasi during nun time hindi ko sya sinubmit kasi ung role ko or position ko sa company ay Field Engineer different doon sa Work pass ID ko na Senior Technician. So ang ginawa ko, gumawa ako ng explanation about dito na different ung criteria ng MOM, maraming salamat kay @Aya20 kasi galing din ito sa knya na idea tapos dinagdagan ko nlng ng supporting documents na ganun pero suported ko sakin ng COE at annual review salary ko from the company na stating na ung role ko.
So in rewriting ng CDR, to tell you honestly, hindi ko talga maiexpress un ideas, kaya ung nauna ko na CDR aay pang engineering technologist daw, pero ang kineclaim ko ay Mechanical engineer.
yung day na nareceive ko un, nag ask ako ng help dito sa group, i think makikita nyo dito un sa forum. hehe, meron angel na tumulong sakin MARAMING SALAMAT PO TALAGA madam @MumVeng, kinoach nya ako sa rewriting from the beginning till the end! hindi ko makukuha itong positive outcome kung walang tulong nya. Sa coaching nya sobrang galing, nya naipalabas nya ung ideas from CDR at SS. Maraming salamat sa mga sumagot sa mga tanong ko at pangungulit ko sa inyo @jakibantiles @Linetdane
Then, pinasa ko na ung CDR +SS with other requirements nitong 22 of July, then meron response kahapon humingi ng aditional document which is latest payslip. Then sinend ko yung payslips ko kninang lunch time, then after an hour, lumabas na ung outcome na positive and nakuha lht ng working experience ko na 8years RSEA, hehehe.

Sobrang sarap sa pakiramdam na meron movement itong goal nmin. hehe. Guys, kung meron kayong problem post lng kayo dito sa group maraming tutulong sa inyo. huwag kayong mahiya. tayo tayong mga pinoy ang mag tutulungan. Sa ngayun focus ako sa PTE aiming for Superior na. hehe goodluck sa inyong lahat. sana makuha nyo ung positive outcome din. Pray lang!

Sobrang laking tulong nyo tlg @MumVeng , I know marami pa kayong matutulungan. hehe. hindi enuf ang thank you tlg. CHEERS!!!!!!!