Are You An Engineer? (Visa 476)

ms476 · April 2020

@superluckyclover said:

@ms476 said:

@superluckyclover said:
@iammaxwell1989 said:

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> Hello, I'll be soon (November-December?) applying for the visa. Gusto ko sanang isama yung girlfriend ko kaso hindi kame live in dahil hindi kaya ng gastusin and siya recent graduate lang tapos ako last year lang. We live with our parents and approved naman nila kame. We are together for almost 2.5 years. Is the "living together" a hard rule? Please help thank you!
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> yes, living together is a hard rule! my friends decided to get married para mas strong yung ties of relationship kasi maraming documents na need iprovide if "de facto" or sa Pinoy, parang Live-in partners. Kasi daw aware ang immigration na conservative culture ang Philippines. Example documents - Bank statement na joint, proof of cohabitation like Rental agreement document, joint bills, travel documents, mga stat declaration from different people.
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> Mas marami daw nirequire ang CO sakanila compared to his European colleague. (I am not sure about the integrity of this pala)

I disagree. It is not a hard-and-fast rule. Your defacto can get approved even though you don't live together.

Another reference below.
https://www.acacia-au.com/de-facto-relationships-for-partner-visas.php

Alright, point taken. Let's see their outcome if DHA's lenient with the concept of cohabitation.

Sharing my experience re. De facto..
18Mar2020 visa 476 granted
Visa refused ang bf ko of 9years
Ako lang ang nag grant sa visa 476 application namin
Sinunod namin yung de facto requirements, may format pa kami na sinunod from kakilala na na-approve.
Ayon sa immi response letter from Home Affairs (visa refusal) strict na talaga ngayon sa rule of co-habitation, at kailangan may major financial decisions (eg.house/lot lease or car loan) na maipakita.

THANK YOU FOR VALIDATING. It's never a hard and fast rule - cohabitation, is in my opinion, cultural.

Hindi ganun ka-accepted ang live-in satin. Unlike dito sa Australia, na open ang tao sa cohabitation. Kaya hindi basta basta mag relationship kayo for xx years ay pasok kayo sa de facto.

But thanks for sharing, maraming kang matutulungan na future applicants. Hindi biro magkaron ng record of visa refusal kaya dapat maingat mga tao mag advice dito.

@superluckyclover

Tingin ko naghigpit lang din DHA kasi nababasa ko sa Visa 476 dumami applications in the recent yrs saka may cases na may namemeke ng documents like diploma etc (ibang nationalities)

At bukod don..nakita ko din may additional condition na ang visa 476 na "must not marry or enter in a de facto relationship before first entry" lumabas yun condition na yun last year around Nov 2019.

So ayun nisheshare ko lang for info. Pero kailangan mu padin ideclare whether may spouse/de facto ka if ever meron na.

RheaMARN1171933 · April 2020

@superluckyclover said:

@ms476 said:

@superluckyclover said:
@iammaxwell1989 said:

> @superluckyclover said:
> Type your comment> @snowpy00 said:
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> Hello, I'll be soon (November-December?) applying for the visa. Gusto ko sanang isama yung girlfriend ko kaso hindi kame live in dahil hindi kaya ng gastusin and siya recent graduate lang tapos ako last year lang. We live with our parents and approved naman nila kame. We are together for almost 2.5 years. Is the "living together" a hard rule? Please help thank you!
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> yes, living together is a hard rule! my friends decided to get married para mas strong yung ties of relationship kasi maraming documents na need iprovide if "de facto" or sa Pinoy, parang Live-in partners. Kasi daw aware ang immigration na conservative culture ang Philippines. Example documents - Bank statement na joint, proof of cohabitation like Rental agreement document, joint bills, travel documents, mga stat declaration from different people.
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> Mas marami daw nirequire ang CO sakanila compared to his European colleague. (I am not sure about the integrity of this pala)

I disagree. It is not a hard-and-fast rule. Your defacto can get approved even though you don't live together.

Another reference below.
https://www.acacia-au.com/de-facto-relationships-for-partner-visas.php

Alright, point taken. Let's see their outcome if DHA's lenient with the concept of cohabitation.

Sharing my experience re. De facto..
18Mar2020 visa 476 granted
Visa refused ang bf ko of 9years
Ako lang ang nag grant sa visa 476 application namin
Sinunod namin yung de facto requirements, may format pa kami na sinunod from kakilala na na-approve.
Ayon sa immi response letter from Home Affairs (visa refusal) strict na talaga ngayon sa rule of co-habitation, at kailangan may major financial decisions (eg.house/lot lease or car loan) na maipakita.

THANK YOU FOR VALIDATING. It's never a hard and fast rule - cohabitation, is in my opinion, cultural.

Hindi ganun ka-accepted ang live-in satin. Unlike dito sa Australia, na open ang tao sa cohabitation. Kaya hindi basta basta mag relationship kayo for xx years ay pasok kayo sa de facto.

But thanks for sharing, maraming kang matutulungan na future applicants. Hindi biro magkaron ng record of visa refusal kaya dapat maingat mga tao mag advice dito.

There are four aspects of co-dependence immigration will ALWAYS look for. These are financial, emotional, social and domestic. All these must be satisfied.

jennysabaterc · April 2020

Hi sa lahat.

Visa 476 din ang visa namin ng partner ko.

Nag initial entry kami last January before the Covid-19 restrictions, so tumatakbo na ang visa namin. Plano sana namin bumalik ng May but mukhang imposible.

May chance kaya na ma extend ang validity ng visa natin?

Salamat.

ms476 · April 2020

@jennysabaterc said:
Hi sa lahat.

Visa 476 din ang visa namin ng partner ko.

Nag initial entry kami last January before the Covid-19 restrictions, so tumatakbo na ang visa namin. Plano sana namin bumalik ng May but mukhang imposible.

May chance kaya na ma extend ang validity ng visa natin?

Salamat.

@jennysabaterc
Ang alam ko yung 18months nagsstart ang bilang from the date of first entry.
Covid lockdown na nung na grant visa ko march 2020. di pa ako nkakapag first entry, nagrequest ako ng extension ng first entry date.
Try sending email request of extension sa DHA baka naman tanggapin kasi reasonable naman dahil pandemic.

ms476 · April 2020

@superluckyclover said:

@Oz2021 said:
Hello fellow iskos and iskas! I have some questions para sa mga nakapunta na nang Oz through 476, and then PR na ngayon or nagpoprocess na ng PR status

How soon after you landed in Oz did you lodge your PR visa application? I'm planning to get Visa 189 kasi to get PR after I land there through 476. Kabado lang coz little work exp lang meron ako outside and within Oz.

What steps did you have to do to strengthen your PR request? May nag PYear/NAATI/Spouse points ba dito?

Any advice for my situation? Planning to go there after I complete 1 year of work experience dito sa Pinas. I'm worried kasi na di ako makakuha ng relevant work dyan agad so baka di ko makuha yung 1yr minimum Australian exp points. As of now, bare minimum lang points ko. (Around 65 to 70 pts).

Okay lang ba na sa dulo na nang 476 validity mag apply for 189? Like sa 16th month out of 18th? Para meron nang work exp 😁

Thank you guys! Kahit di niyo sagutin lahat huhu any feedback from y'all will massively help me (and many others who may chance upon this part of the thread). Also good luck sa Oz journey!

Strongly suggest na may PY, NAATI and makakuha ng engineering role para maxed out mo lahat ng points. Ang PY ay 11 month course, NAATI ay limited lang ang exam dates sa isang taon (may covid pa so paki factor-in) din.

PTE - i superior din. Pero strongly urge you to invest in PY kasi may limitations ang pwde kumuha nito 485 (IT,Engineering, Accountants) or 476 lang.

Kahit 457 people (482) di eligible kumuha nito.

Hi @superluckyclover 😊

Thanks for the helpful tip. Will look it up..

Nakita ko din PY..mga magkano tuition nun? Saka gano kadalas yung pag attend ng courses in a week? anu yun online classes lng ba yun or papasukan parang school?

Yung NAATI di ko pa na-check kung ano..

jennysabaterc · April 2020

@ms476

Thanks sa advise. Yes after nga ng initial entry saka nag start yung 18 months. Nag email ako pero wala pang response. Hay kalungkot. But on the bright side at least hindi kami na abutan ng lockdown sa Oz. Siguradong mahirap din maghanap ng work these days.

jennysabaterc · April 2020

@ms476 @superluckyclover Share ko din pala experience namin sa de facto. Hindi kami nag live-in ng partner ko gawa ng based sya overseas. Na-grant pa din ang visa namin pareho.

Sa tingin ko dahil may joint bank account kami na may regular transactions. At may property din kami. So sa financial interdependence medyo positive.

Sa tingin ko din overkill ang mga sinubmit namin na docs kasi lahat ng maisip namin na proof pinasa namin. Plane tickets, airbnb bookings at feedback, photos, declarations, convos etc. Lahat talaga.

I'm not sure if my case is more of the exception pero may mga kilala din ako na grant de facto na hindi nag live in. Depende din sa case officer or sa overall merit ng application.

RheaMARN1171933 · April 2020

@jennysabaterc said:
@ms476 @superluckyclover Share ko din pala experience namin sa de facto. Hindi kami nag live-in ng partner ko gawa ng based sya overseas. Na-grant pa din ang visa namin pareho.

Sa tingin ko dahil may joint bank account kami na may regular transactions. At may property din kami. So sa financial interdependence medyo positive.

Sa tingin ko din overkill ang mga sinubmit namin na docs kasi lahat ng maisip namin na proof pinasa namin. Plane tickets, airbnb bookings at feedback, photos, declarations, convos etc. Lahat talaga.

I'm not sure if my case is more of the exception pero may mga kilala din ako na grant de facto na hindi nag live in. Depende din sa case officer or sa overall merit ng application.

Living together is not always the only reason to prove de facto relationship. All 4 aspects of co-dependence must be satisfied - financial, social, emotional and domestic set up.

In some circumstances, they will consider not living together if proven that circumstance prevented the couple from living together. This is the case your end. I’ve had a few clients who with the same situations. It’s all about the supporting documents submitted along with the application

superluckyclover · April 2020

@ms476 said:

@superluckyclover said:

@Oz2021 said:
Hello fellow iskos and iskas! I have some questions para sa mga nakapunta na nang Oz through 476, and then PR na ngayon or nagpoprocess na ng PR status

How soon after you landed in Oz did you lodge your PR visa application? I'm planning to get Visa 189 kasi to get PR after I land there through 476. Kabado lang coz little work exp lang meron ako outside and within Oz.

What steps did you have to do to strengthen your PR request? May nag PYear/NAATI/Spouse points ba dito?

Any advice for my situation? Planning to go there after I complete 1 year of work experience dito sa Pinas. I'm worried kasi na di ako makakuha ng relevant work dyan agad so baka di ko makuha yung 1yr minimum Australian exp points. As of now, bare minimum lang points ko. (Around 65 to 70 pts).

Okay lang ba na sa dulo na nang 476 validity mag apply for 189? Like sa 16th month out of 18th? Para meron nang work exp 😁

Thank you guys! Kahit di niyo sagutin lahat huhu any feedback from y'all will massively help me (and many others who may chance upon this part of the thread). Also good luck sa Oz journey!

Strongly suggest na may PY, NAATI and makakuha ng engineering role para maxed out mo lahat ng points. Ang PY ay 11 month course, NAATI ay limited lang ang exam dates sa isang taon (may covid pa so paki factor-in) din.

PTE - i superior din. Pero strongly urge you to invest in PY kasi may limitations ang pwde kumuha nito 485 (IT,Engineering, Accountants) or 476 lang.

Kahit 457 people (482) di eligible kumuha nito.

Hi @superluckyclover 😊

Thanks for the helpful tip. Will look it up..

Nakita ko din PY..mga magkano tuition nun? Saka gano kadalas yung pag attend ng courses in a week? anu yun online classes lng ba yun or papasukan parang school?

Yung NAATI di ko pa na-check kung ano..

Once a week, weekend or weekday lang. Mas cheaper ang weekday class pero hassle kung may work ka na monday to friday, kasi 1 whole day sya. Sabi ng friend ko na nagp-PY now, online class na sila dahil sa covid Nung time ko, pumapasok kami sa class mismo.

iammaxwell1989 · April 2020

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@jennysabaterc said:
@ms476 @superluckyclover Share ko din pala experience namin sa de facto. Hindi kami nag live-in ng partner ko gawa ng based sya overseas. Na-grant pa din ang visa namin pareho.

Sa tingin ko dahil may joint bank account kami na may regular transactions. At may property din kami. So sa financial interdependence medyo positive.

Sa tingin ko din overkill ang mga sinubmit namin na docs kasi lahat ng maisip namin na proof pinasa namin. Plane tickets, airbnb bookings at feedback, photos, declarations, convos etc. Lahat talaga.

I'm not sure if my case is more of the exception pero may mga kilala din ako na grant de facto na hindi nag live in. Depende din sa case officer or sa overall merit ng application.

Living together is not always the only reason to prove de facto relationship. All 4 aspects of co-dependence must be satisfied - financial, social, emotional and domestic set up.

In some circumstances, they will consider not living together if proven that circumstance prevented the couple from living together. This is the case your end. I’ve had a few clients who with the same situations. It’s all about the supporting documents submitted along with the application

What you said makes perfect sense, and I agree completely.
Cohabitation is NOT the sole determinant of a de facto relationship.

Obviously we cannot generalise or validate the DHA's policy based on one or two experiences, but what's certain is applications can get approved and are being approved even if applicants do not live together. In short cohabitation is NOT a hard rule.

ms476 · May 2020

@jennysabaterc said:
@ms476 @superluckyclover Share ko din pala experience namin sa de facto. Hindi kami nag live-in ng partner ko gawa ng based sya overseas. Na-grant pa din ang visa namin pareho.

Sa tingin ko dahil may joint bank account kami na may regular transactions. At may property din kami. So sa financial interdependence medyo positive.

Sa tingin ko din overkill ang mga sinubmit namin na docs kasi lahat ng maisip namin na proof pinasa namin. Plane tickets, airbnb bookings at feedback, photos, declarations, convos etc. Lahat talaga.

I'm not sure if my case is more of the exception pero may mga kilala din ako na grant de facto na hindi nag live in. Depende din sa case officer or sa overall merit ng application.

@jennysabaterc

Case to case basis din kasi depende sa officer siguro. Pero ayun nakasulat talaga dun sa immi letter. Kya shinare ko for info na ganun yung recent exp ko sa paglakad ng visa 476, para sa mga mag aapply palang with de facto to be careful. Good luck & God bless sa mga mag-aapply pa lang 😊

johnjrgs · July 2020

Hi guys, I just applied for this visa last June 20. Any idea gano katagal processing ng 476 visa? Thank you.

Captain_A · July 2020

@jennysabaterc said:
@ms476

Thanks sa advise. Yes after nga ng initial entry saka nag start yung 18 months. Nag email ako pero wala pang response. Hay kalungkot. But on the bright side at least hindi kami na abutan ng lockdown sa Oz. Siguradong mahirap din maghanap ng work these days.

kamusta ka? were you able to extend? find a job? all the best

moo09 · September 2020

Hi, would like to ask ano ano po mga requirements na need ipasa if mag aapply po ng 476? Thank you

Captain_A · September 2020

@moo09 said:
Hi, would like to ask ano ano po mga requirements na need ipasa if mag aapply po ng 476? Thank you

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/skilled-recognition-graduate-476

johnjrgs · September 2020

@johnjrgs said:
Hi guys, I just applied for this visa last June 20. Any idea gano katagal processing ng 476 visa? Thank you.

Hi guys, baka may nakakaalam sa inyo? Parang last year 6 months yung processing time, ngayon wala ng nakalagay.

Captain_A · September 2020

@johnjrgs said:

@johnjrgs said:
Hi guys, I just applied for this visa last June 20. Any idea gano katagal processing ng 476 visa? Thank you.

Hi guys, baka may nakakaalam sa inyo? Parang last year 6 months yung processing time, ngayon wala ng nakalagay.

maybe due to pandemic, since kung ma process man nila ang visa, they cant come here.. yet..

romaroms · November 2020

Hi,

Inquire ko lang po if qualified ang computer engineering from upd sa visa subclass 476?
Thanks!

Captain_A · November 2020

@romaroms said:
Hi,

Inquire ko lang po if qualified ang computer engineering from upd sa visa subclass 476?
Thanks!

afaik, no.

Hanna2412 · April 2021

Hello, I graduated July 2018 from UPD po. Strict po ba sila na within 2 years after graduation lang 476? Meron po bang case dito na lagpas 2 years na pero naapprove pa din sa 476?

jmban33 · April 2021

@Hanna2412 said:
Hello, I graduated July 2018 from UPD po. Strict po ba sila na within 2 years after graduation lang 476? Meron po bang case dito na lagpas 2 years na pero naapprove pa din sa 476?

-if this is one of the major requirement then they would scrutinise this for sure on the application.

Captain_A · April 2021

@Hanna2412 said:
Hello, I graduated July 2018 from UPD po. Strict po ba sila na within 2 years after graduation lang 476? Meron po bang case dito na lagpas 2 years na pero naapprove pa din sa 476?

afaik, you need to submit application within 2 years from date of graduation..

tumitingala · June 2021

hi, would anyone know kung required din na before two years after graduation din dapat masubmit ang medical? i graduated june 30, 2019 so i need to submit my application before june 30, 2021. nasubmit ko na yung application, kaso yung medical ko sa june 21 ko pa naschedule. medyo kinakabahan lang if magka-delay yung results nun in case may conditions pala ako. sa st lukes pala ako nagschedule, gaano katagal kaya bago nila maupload results?

Captain_A · June 2021

@tumitingala said:
hi, would anyone know kung required din na before two years after graduation din dapat masubmit ang medical? i graduated june 30, 2019 so i need to submit my application before june 30, 2021. nasubmit ko na yung application, kaso yung medical ko sa june 21 ko pa naschedule. medyo kinakabahan lang if magka-delay yung results nun in case may conditions pala ako. sa st lukes pala ako nagschedule, gaano katagal kaya bago nila maupload results?

as far as i know, as long as application submitted na within 2 yrs from grad date, that should be OK.
unless medicals are required before you are able to submit your application

John316 · June 2021

@tumitingala said:
hi, would anyone know kung required din na before two years after graduation din dapat masubmit ang medical? i graduated june 30, 2019 so i need to submit my application before june 30, 2021. nasubmit ko na yung application, kaso yung medical ko sa june 21 ko pa naschedule. medyo kinakabahan lang if magka-delay yung results nun in case may conditions pala ako. sa st lukes pala ako nagschedule, gaano katagal kaya bago nila maupload results?

You cannot schedule for medical until you have your HAP ID. Your HAP ID will be provided after you've lodged your application. So the process is lodge your application first then have your medical scheduled with your HAP ID provided.

tumitingala · June 2021

@Captain_A said:

@tumitingala said:
hi, would anyone know kung required din na before two years after graduation din dapat masubmit ang medical? i graduated june 30, 2019 so i need to submit my application before june 30, 2021. nasubmit ko na yung application, kaso yung medical ko sa june 21 ko pa naschedule. medyo kinakabahan lang if magka-delay yung results nun in case may conditions pala ako. sa st lukes pala ako nagschedule, gaano katagal kaya bago nila maupload results?

as far as i know, as long as application submitted na within 2 yrs from grad date, that should be OK.
unless medicals are required before you are able to submit your application

yup, i have my HAP ID na and I was able to schedule na. alright thank you!! don't have to worry then pala

xarbon022120 · August 2021

Hi @tumitingala I am planning on applying right now for Visa 476. Pwede magtanong kung yung addresses na nilagay mo ay lahat talaga, kasama yung mga nirent mo lang while you were in college?