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Posts: 80Member
Joined: Aug 21, 2016
thanks much @xiaoxue and @athelene sa suggestions pagsagot. will follow your advice.
Posts: 140Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2020
Hi EL, I am not exactly an architect, but I'm in a related field. I seek advice from a migration agent regarding what pathways I could take, and this is what he advised me:
Other occupations require 1-year of work experience while architects do not have such requirements. But in Australia, you must have obtained a Bachelor’s and a Master’s degree in Architecture. The University of Tasmania offers a Master of Architecture and Tasmania has supported their international graduates in terms of state nomination so this is something we can discuss further.
If you don't mind spending some time in regional areas (like Tasmania), I think MArch is a good path for PR since it doesn't require any relevant work experience. MARch is also offered at Uni of Canberra so I think that's also an option (since at the moment, Architect is in ACT's Critical Skilled Occupations List). I agree with @athelene - I think that MArch is the best study pathway to take for Filipino architects for PR purposes.
But if you are confident that you can get 1-year of experience after graduation (in order to be assessed positively), I think there are also other options. I am still undecided on my own path, but I am looking at the following courses:
Master of Urban Planning - Queensland, South Australia, and Western Australia offered state nomination for their graduates
Master of Landscape Architecture - Queensland and South Australia offered state nomination for their graduates
Master of Interior Design - South Australia offered state nomination for their graduates
Other options are Master of Construction Project Management and Master of Environment (medyo malayo na to but I think it's still applicable to me).
Bear in mind that my ideas are based on previous state rules. We don't know what new rules may come up in 2 years' time after we finish studying.
Posts: 140Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2020
Grabe, thanks for sharing Athelene! This is exactly what I am trying to avoid - so as much as possible I don't want to do architecture school again. Feeling ko sapat na yung pinagdaanan ko na sya once. For sure baka mas mahirap sa Australia (or baka mahirap kasi USyd?). But congratulations to you on making it!
Joined: Nov 12, 2019
ako rin, iniisip ko kung kaya pa ng mind cells ko. so what are your plans po?
Joined: Nov 12, 2019
mukhang hassle talaga ung mag aral pa ng MArch dahil sa design studios. I am also leaning towards Master of Construction Management as an alternative. any idea po on this course? thanks po.
Joined: Nov 12, 2019
nahilo ako. ahahaha. thanks for this info. will definitely take time to consider this. Student Visa is actually my last option for residency, I have already been given a positive assessment by Vetassess for archi draftsperson , took the PTE also, but covid took over and affected migration directives of Australia. hintayin na lng ba nmin ung State Sponsorship or pursue studying na lng? either way close pa ang borders. hay hirap mag decide.
Posts: 766Member
Joined: Mar 13, 2018
Thanks! I actually didn't want to do MArch because of studio, kaya iba ang pinili kong course. I didn't have any plans to migrate to AU when I decided to come here. I only considered it after arriving, so I'm stuck having to research what pathway is available for me based on my credentials.
I don't know how other uni conduct their studio, but I'm guessing it won't be that much different. I think the big difference between PH and AU studio is the time you spend designing. Because the PH curriculum crams so many subjects per semester, you have less time to spend on studio (and the credit weighting is far less than AU credits). AU BArch/BDes+MArch degree does not include the math, english, filipino, PE, theology, statistics we've had to take. Diretso sila sa design, graphics/VT, history, theory, professional practice.
Construction Management seems like a viable option, especially with the engineering construction and development around the country (mostly infrastructure, not buildings). I don't know much about how that program works though, but I will assume it'll be coursework and some capstone. Postgrad in AU does not always require a thesis, but you will have to double-check the curriculum about the requirements for graduation. In my case, I only had to take a capstone unit, which is like the normal coursework that requires 2 assignments. The capstone assignments were design projects requiring the application of the knowledge gained from all the other units I've taken throughout my degree.
It really depends on the strength of your migration profile (like how many points you can get without studying) and the skill shortage of the states/territory. Student pathway is definitely expensive, but if it will help increase your chances of getting invited to migrate, then it just might be worth the risk/costs. Do you have a target state/territory for state sponsorship?
232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65
30-01-2018 Applied for student visa (MArchSci), offshore application.
11-08-2020 Applied for student visa (PhD), onshore application.
28-02-2022 Submitted application to AACA for skills assessment (OQA Stage 1)
27-05-2022 Received skills assessment outcome (Suitable/Positive)
Next steps: PTE exam
Joined: Nov 12, 2019
any states will do. but nsw seems great since andun na sister ko. really hoping that states would open up by next year for nominations.
Posts: 140Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2020
Hello uli! It's good na may positive assessment ka na for Architectural Draftsperson. Kung di ako nagkakamali, NSW lang ang state na nagopen for Arch'l Draftsperson last year. So sa isip ko, kung magaaral ka na, sa NSW na siguro kasi baka may chance na mag-open uli doon. But if you check Cricos, 2 schools lang sa NSW ang nag-ooffer ng Master of Construction Project Management: Swinburne and UNSW.
Mejo mahal ang tuition fee sa UNSW kaya out na yon for me. Yung Swinburne naman, may 10-75% silang scholarship offer for 2021 (due to the pandemic). So if you are eligible for that scholarship, malaki matitipid mo. I think you can consider applying now, then you can decide later if you will proceed or not. Habang nag-aantay tayo ng new announcement, I think it wouldn't hurt to send our application to universities, especially if you already have PTE or Ielts. At least nakapila ka na. Libre lang naman mag-apply through educational agencies.
Posts: 14Member
Joined: Apr 05, 2019
how much ang tuition mo sir? and anong school? my wife is planning to take up master of accounting in univ of tasmania. mas malaki daw ang chance for PR pathway
Posts: 114Member
Joined: Nov 12, 2017
@rheirhei 36K AUD (may scholarship akong 25%), Flinders Uni sa SA ang school ko. ganoon po ba maganda kung mas malaki ang chances sa tasmania.
Joined: May 07, 2020
hello! sa mga naghahanap ng accomodation sa Melbourne na affordable at walking distance sa public transport, PM nyo lang ako. Naghahanap yung kilala kong landlord na Pinoy. Ideal sa mga tao (single or couple) na gusto ng sariling space na hindi gaanong mahal. Granny flat sya sa isang magandang suburb. Ok sa Deakin uni students or sa mga gusto mag work sa hospital/aged care kasi retiree area yung suburb. Cheers
Posts: 14Member
Joined: Apr 05, 2019
@RodSher paano po kayo nakakuha ng scholarship? And anong type ng scholarship yan. Thanks
Posts: 114Member
Joined: Nov 12, 2017
@rheirhei ng apply po ako ng scholarship sa school -parang academic ata yon.
Posts: 64Member
Joined: May 17, 2015
The first batch of international students landed in Northern Territory.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-30/international-students-arrive-in-australia-coronavirus-nt/12933370
Anyone here sa PinoyAu knew how to secure the flight schedule bound to Australia? Meron kayong alam how to secure the flight slot or batch or date?
Maraming Salamat po sa info.
ANZSCO 233411 (Electronics Engineer)
Age:25, English Test:10, Qualification:15, Experience:15, Partner English:0, FS:0 |total: 65
Visa 190: 70 points, Visa 491: 80 points
00-Sep-12 - Applied for Australian Student Visa denied.
00-Apr-15 - IELTS (L6.5, R6.5, W6, S7) overall 6.5
00-Jun -15 - NZQA level 6, wife's is level 5. Cannot proceed to New Zealand migration.
15-Jul -19 - signed contract with an agency for Australia GSM
10-Sep-19 - 1st PTE Result ( L65, R58, S70, W77), disappointed with points
19-Nov-20 - Submitted EA Assessment
11-Feb-20 - 2nd PTE Result ( L78, R71, S90, W74)
19-Mar-20 - EA Positive Assessment : Thank you Lord!
03-Apr -20 - Submit EOI (Visa 190/491: 70/80 pts)
01-Jun -20 - Partner is taking the IELTS Review
**-***-20 - Partner English Test
**-***-20 - Australian Immigration closed for offshore application.
19-Sept-20-Apply for Australian Student Visa [Approved]
02-Nov-20 - CoE from the College
19-Dec-20 - Lodge Student Visa application
14-Jan- 21 - Medical Examination
17-Feb-21 - Health Undertaking
24-Feb-21 - Student Visa Approved
---------------- To God be the Glory
**-***-21- Waiting for Australian boarders to open
Joined: Apr 25, 2020
Hi po, nag PM po ako sa inyo. Hope it's okay.
Posts: 766Member
Joined: Mar 13, 2018
Those international students are students of CDU, and only eligible students will be contacted by the university. You can check the details of that chartered flight here:
https://cdu.edu.au/international/cdu-charter-flight
There are no news yet from other schools/uni as this is just a pilot program. If/when this program is successful, it could potentially lead the way to more students entering Australia (people on this chartered flight is excluded from the cap on returning Australians).
232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65
30-01-2018 Applied for student visa (MArchSci), offshore application.
11-08-2020 Applied for student visa (PhD), onshore application.
28-02-2022 Submitted application to AACA for skills assessment (OQA Stage 1)
27-05-2022 Received skills assessment outcome (Suitable/Positive)
Next steps: PTE exam
Joined: Nov 12, 2019
Posts: 140Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2020
Hello po!
Hindi ko po alam kung ano ang PR pathway kung generic lang na Master of Project Management. Baka masayang lang po ang pera ninyo kung walang pathway.
Posts: 98Member
Joined: Jun 27, 2018
Hello po...newbie in this thread...ask ko lng po ang pagbbyad b ng tuition is after you get the SV or prior to start application ng SV dpat byad k n s tuition?I'm planning to apply po sna kaso yng s migration agent medyo mhal yng singil nila mga 50k plus in peso...kc yng tinuturo nila yng pwedeng may pathway ng PR...masteral po sna ang kukunin kong course & Just finished my PTE exam kht pano nkcompetent nmn po...thanks po s help at s sasagot
Posts: 140Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2020
Hello! After po ninyo mag-apply sa school, bibigyan ka po nila ng Offer Letter. Dun po nakalagay kung magkanong deposit ang required. Sa experience ko po (nagapply po ako sa maraming school ng Master's), iba iba po yung downpayment na hinihingi kada school. Yung iba percentage lang, yung iba full 1st sem tuitin fee. Ang pinakamurang offer na nakuha ko ay sa Griffith Uni - 3k AUD. Pinakamahal sa Deakin - 18k AUD. Plus OSHC pa po.
After ninyo po matapos ung requirements sa offer, saka po nila kayo bibigyan ng COE (certificate of enrollment). Yun po yung gagamitin ninyo para maka-apply ng Student visa.
Posts: 766Member
Joined: Mar 13, 2018
@xiaoxue is correct about the deposit/downpayment. It would vary depending on the uni/school. The way I understand it, the payment of the deposit means that you are really committed to attending the program, so the university will reserve your slot. If you do not pay for the deposit to secure your slot, the university could give that slot to someone else who is keen to attend the program. This is especially important for programs that have limited slots (quota), since the university can't take in all the students that apply. At USyd, one semester's tuition has to be paid in order to get the eCoE. The university will also include in your offer letter the cost of OSHC if you prefer to have them organize your OSHC (para hindi ka na maghahanap on your own).
Migration agents can set their price regarding their service, but confirm if this is only for SV processing or if kasama na yung assistance later on for 485 visa or PR application. Kasi kung SV lang, you could've gone to education agents who do not ask for any fee. You yourself have to make the decision whether the migration agent's recommended pathway is really what you want. Kasi kung master level studies yan, you want to make sure na ok ka talaga with the cost and study content, na gusto mo yung topic (hindi lang aaralin dahil yun ang suggestion nila). Ikaw ang mag-aaral at gagastos, hindi ang migration agent.
232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65
30-01-2018 Applied for student visa (MArchSci), offshore application.
11-08-2020 Applied for student visa (PhD), onshore application.
28-02-2022 Submitted application to AACA for skills assessment (OQA Stage 1)
27-05-2022 Received skills assessment outcome (Suitable/Positive)
Next steps: PTE exam
Posts: 98Member
Joined: Jun 27, 2018
@athelene @xiaoxue thank ypu for the advise...atleast medyo clear n sken ng konti...
Joined: Sep 13, 2019
Hi po, ppano yung sa griffith po na 3kAUD? anong course po ito?
Posts: 140Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2020
Hi, 3000aud is just the deposit fee. The total estimated tuition fee offered to me is 72000 minus 20% merit scholarship. The course I applied for was Master of urban and environmental planning. They also offered an additional 5% scholarship if the offer was accepted before November 27.
Joined: Jan 14, 2020
Hello, @xiaoxue ! Sa Griffith ka ba tutuloy? Nag-apply rin ako rito. Kung sakaling oo, tatanong ko sana kung anong intake at kung nag accept ka na ng offer. Salamat!
Posts: 140Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2020
Hi! Madami ako naapplyan na uni kasi nung una di ko pa alam san pinaka-ok. March intake ang plan ko. Hindi na ako tutuloy sa Griffith kasi nagpaconsult ako sa migration agent at suggestion niya sakin na ACT, Regional NSW and SA ang may potential and fastest for PR para sa case ko.
Sa Queensland kasi, ang manonominate ko na occupation ay Urban and Regional Planner, which is nasa STSOL lang. As a Queensland graduate, I am required to work for 1 year in my nominated occupation before I can apply for visa 190. Medyo mabigat yung requirements nila for international graduates compared sa ibang states.
Joined: Jan 14, 2020
Alright! Maraming salamat sa mga information. Oh, nag migration agent ka bukod sa mga Education Agents like IDP? Malapit lapit na rin ang March intake! Nag apply ka na for SV?
For now, wala ka pang naka lodge na 190? For my case, mayroon kasi ako. It is still in submitted status. Lodged prior mabuo ang study plans. May bearing kaya ito pag mag apply for SV? Iniisip ko kung kailangan i-withdraw e.
Salamat rin nga pala sa mga posts niyo dito. Very helpful. Ang dami kong natutunan sa inyo!
Posts: 140Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2020
Hi @codename
IDP is just an educational consultant and they have been very helpful to me so far. I did not discuss with them my migration plans in detail because I understand their limitations. I researched my options thoroughly but I still needed a professional to check / confirm my research and give me some direction. So ayon nag-book lang ako ng 30-minute consultation with a MARN agent. It was 95AUD so I made sure that I was prepared and I already knew what to ask.
Hindi pa ako nag-apply ng student visa kasi may inaantay pa rin akong university offer. 2-4 weeks daw ang release.
When you say lodge, as in visa lodge? Meron lang akong EOI for 491. Sa pagbabasa ko online, wala namang bearing ang Expression of Interest sa Student Visa application. Approval of SV is based on your GTE application.
Joined: Jan 14, 2020
Thank you for sharing, @xiaoxue . I might get in touch with you for your contact of MARN agent if I will seek professional advice.
Apologies for the confusion. I meant EOI. Thank you for addressing this despite its vagueness.
Kapag ina-analyze ko na ang total projected expenses, nakakalula talaga. Research is still ongoing from my side. Kailangan pagisipang mabuti.
Thanks again! All the best!