Skilled - Nominated or Sponsored (Provisional) (subclass 489) visa

Santi · January 2013

Hi pinoyau! This forum is very informative!

Here's our case, my wife is a registered nurse with 10 years of experience here in Pinas. Her sister, a pr holder in Melbourne, will be our sponsor for the subclass 489 visa. However we are clueless about this requirement in SkillSelect : *have your skills assessed by the relevant assessing authority as suitable for your nominated occupation does this mean that she still needs to take the bridging program in order for ANMAC to assess her skill? Even in this type of visa application? I've read in ANMAC Website that they are only assessing nurses with license given by APHRA. I know for a fact that bridging program is costly and my wife and i agreed that she doesn't necessarily need to practice her nursing profession in Oz but more than willing to get others jobs thhat doesn't require bridging program. Thanks in advance!

Subclass 489 visa: http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/visas/subclass-489/

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@Santi - Hi.. welcome to the forum..

a) yes, since 489 is a Skilled migrant visa, the primary applicant must have a positive skills assessment by the relevant assessing authority... in your case kailangan nga ng AU Nursing license, at bago nga magka license, kailangan ng bridging course APHRA...

here is another thread related to nurses:
http://www.pinoyau.info/discussion/477/what-are-the-options-for-nurses/p1

b) if your occupation is in the SOL/CSOL, then that's another option, pwde naman na ikaw ang primary applicant (ikaw ang magpa-assess/ielts), and sponsor is your sister-in-law pa rin for visa 489..

goodluck!!

Santi · January 2013

Thanks lock Code!

Sabi ko na nga ba kailangan talaga mag bridging basta Nurse. So wala talagang easier pathway.

Re my occupation, i am a Medical Rep from a multinational company for 10 years nasa CSOL schedule 2 yung occupation ko. However yung schedule 2 is only good for applicants with state sponsorship, or business long stay visas. If SS route, kailangan ba nasa state SOL din yung nominated occupation? or pwedeng wala sa state SOL basta nasa CSOL sched 2 naman?

Thanks for your response!

lock_code2004 · January 2013

if your occupation is in CSOL Sched 2, you need to have a state sponsorship (SS)..
and since the state will sponsor/nominate you, your occupation should be in their list (SNOL- State Nomination Occupation List).

Some occupations in the CSOL Sched 2, will not appear all in one state's SNOL..
Kaya you have to check all states, kung saan ka pwede magpa-sponsor..

Santi · January 2013

Thank you very much Lock Code!! Big help!

hubertd · January 2013

Hello kamusta kayo?

I've been reading the information on SkillSelect at gusto ko sponsor yung first cousin ko under subclass 489. Her occupation is under CSOL sched 1.

Gusto ko lang check kung tama ba pagkaintindi ko sa initial process.

1. Take IELTS and have her skills assessed by VETASSESS.
2. Submit EOI.
3. Pray and wait for invitation.

Thanks

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@hubertd tama po sir.. Pls double check na nasa SOL sched 1 po ang nominated occupation nya.. Iba po ang CSOL pang state sponsorship po ito..

Question, kailngn po ba nya ng 10pts for the 489 relative sponsorship? If not, baka mas okay na derecho na sya sa PR visa 190 SS.. Gudlak!!

hubertd · January 2013

thanks lock_code. She's a Food Technologist. Nasa CSOL sched 1 yung occupation nya pero wala sa SOL sched 1.

Makakakuha sya at least 60 points kung walang relative sponsorship. Pero nababasa ko dito na the higher the points, the better the chance. Anong maisa-suggest mo? Salamat.

hubertd · January 2013

Nagkamali ako sorry. Nasa CSOL sched 2 pala yung 'Food Technologist'.

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@hubertd - as far as I know,

a) kailangan nasa SOL Sched 1 ang skill/occupation, if you want to apply for Visa 489 (Relative Sponsored - Provisional)

b) Pero kung Visa 489 (State Sponsored - Provisional), pwede po sya kung nasa CSOL Sched 2 sya.

Now, kung nasa CSOL sched 2 sya, at makakuha sya ng atleast 55 points, then pwede sya mag pa state sponsorship, this will add 5 pts to her.. So total points 55 + SS 5 pts = 60 points.

She can then apply for Visa 190 (with SS) which is PR visa, instead of Visa489 Provisional visa only.

Of course, you need to check kung available sa state nyo ang occupation nya.. Food Tech should be in the state nomination occupation list.

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@hubertd - one more thing.. the high points is now only applicable if you are applying for independent skilled visa 189... adahil mas konti ang restrictions nito, mas maraming nag-aply, kaya mas competitive dapat ang points mo..

but if you are applying for visa 190 state sponsorship, we can see from the current trend na automatic na po ang invitation, kahit na saktong passmark lang ang points mo na 60pts...

hubertd · January 2013

Thanks lock code. What do you suggest kasi na confuse na ko kung anong Visa apply namin.

She's a "Food Technologist". Nasa CSOL sched 2 ito. If needed, I can sponsor her too. I checked the list na pwedeng mag-sponsor at kasama naman ang first cousin.

Dito kami sa Victoria at may nakita akong Desginated list ng places at nakalagay na Victoria - Anywhere.

hubertd · January 2013

Sorry di ka nabasa ng buo yung post mo. Halos nasagot mo na pala mga tanong ko.

Ang problema, na-check ko yung Occupation List sa Victoria. Wala akong makitang Food Tech don.

hubertd · January 2013

Lock Code, I checked the Victorian occupation list again. Under Biotechnology and Science, merong R&D Manager at meron ding Engineering Technologist.

She's been working in Food Tech R&D for so long (not sure kung Manager sya. I'll check).

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@hubertd - okay i hope it's clear now.. if the occupation is in CSOL Sched 2
- you CANNOT sponsor your relative for Visa 489
- ONLY the STATE can sponsor for either Visa 190 (SS Permanent) or Visa 489 (SS Regional Temporary)

kung wala po sa state nyo, the only option is to get sponsorship from another state.. then after satisfying the 2yr residency requirements pwede na sya tumira kahit saan..

hubertd · January 2013

THanks @lock_code2004. You've been a big help.

lock_code2004 · January 2013

THanks @lock_code2004. You've been a big help.

you are welcome po!

hubertd · January 2013

@lock_code2004 if you don't mind, ano nga palang occupation mo at saang State ka dito sa Australia?

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@hubertd - im a manufacturing/industial engineer for an oil and gas company..
wala pa po ako dyan sa AU.. nag initial entry pa lang..
hopefully will transfer there by the mid of this year..

hubertd · January 2013

Ah ok. Sa Victoria ba destination mo?

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@hubertd - not really sure.. basta kung saan may work... but most likely it's either perth or sydney...

clickbuddy2009 · January 2013

Good evening everyone, may mga gusto lang akong iclarify before i lodge my application for aus visa. I'm planning to submit an application for visa 489 together with my wife and daughter. Sinubukan ko yung point system sa www.immi.gov.au, at lumalabas na 85points ako assuming na makakuha ako atleast 7points sa IELTS. Grad ako ng architecture pero sa civil/ structural na work ko ever since. I'm a civil/ structural CAD Technician here in Singapore, below 32 years old.

Here are my questions:
1. Advisable ba na 489 ang iapply ko instead na 189? sayang din kasi nung 10 points para sa Family sponsorship.

2. Kelangan pa ba ng wife ko kumuha ng IELTS exam?

3. kamusta naman kaya ang hiring ng civil/ structural technician sa Melbourne?

4. Accounting naman ang linya ng wife ko, ok kaya market sa Melbourne?

Maraming salamat po. God bless all

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@clickbuddy2009 - welcome po sa forum.. marami din tayo mga members na nasa SG ngaun.. at like you they nominated either archi/ce draftsman.. please check.. SG thread and Archi Draftsman thread...

now regarding your questions:
1. your score is to high for visa 489.. visa 489 is regional and temporary.. so if you are qualified for visa 189 (permanent), i-avail mo na un para wala ng hassle in applying PR after 2 yrs.. if you look at current Skillselect invitation, may naiinvite na 60-65pts lang.. so without the additional 10 pts, you can get easily invited with 75pts and qualify for either 189/190 visa.

2. kung hindi kayo kukuha ng partner points =5 pts, hindi na kailangan ng IELTS ni misis...
how to satisfy the english requirements for secondary applicants? check and read from the start of this thread:

http://www.pinoyau.info/discussion/828/adding-secondary-applicants-marriedde-factoengaged/p1

I cannot answer 3 and 4

clickbuddy2009 · January 2013

@lock_Code2004 thanks for your reply. Well, assume lang naman yung score ko na 85. Yan eh kung kasama na yung 10points for family sponsor, 5points for my partner, and assuming makakuha ako atleast 10points sa IELTS. Naniniguro lang sana ako kaya ko naisip na 489 na lang kasi sayang din ng 10points. Medyo lost pa ko till now kasi nasa planning stage pa lang kami. I guess we should start now with our IELTS and skills assessment para atleast kahit papano meron na kami idea sa points namin.

Mas mabilis ba mainvite sa 189 kesa sa 489?

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@clickbuddy2009 - may 3 types of ng visa for Skilled migrant:
Visa 189- Independent
Visa 190 - state sponsorship
Visa 489 - Regional Temporary - may 2 types (Regional State Sponsorship or Family Sponsorship)

so in terms of priority sa EOI invitation, eto ang ranking:
1. Visa 190
2. Visa 489 (Regional State Sponsorship)
3. Visa 189 and Visa 489 (Family Sponsorship) - medyo pareho lang..

in the end, kailangan mong i-weigh ang mga decisions.. pros/cons ng bawat types of visas..
tip* normally kumuha lang ng visa 489 kung kulang ang points (ex 50 pts + 10 pts relative sponsorship)... because based on trends/reports sa DiAC.. naiinvite naman kahit 60-65pts..
so there is no sense in applying for a temporary visa 489 with 85pts..

but first, you are correct.. concentrate initially on your assessment/ielts..
pag lumabas na ang results.. you can decide which visa to apply for..

clickbuddy2009 · January 2013

@lock_code2004 Great! So meaning after ng assessment at IELTS, malalaman ko na kagad kung ano ang score ko? Required din ba si wifey to take the assessment? Meaning kaming dalawa ay kelangan magprovide ng skills and quialifications namin? Thanks

lock_code2004 · January 2013

@lock_code2004 Great! So meaning after ng assessment at IELTS, malalaman ko na kagad kung ano ang score ko? Required din ba si wifey to take the assessment? Meaning kaming dalawa ay kelangan magprovide ng skills and quialifications namin? Thanks

yes.. you know how the EOI point system works.. so you should be able to estimate now...

pag meron ka ng results IELTS/assessment...
1. your assessment will give results on your educ qualification and number of related work exp
2. your IELTS score has corresponding EOI points
3. if you dont need the 5pts (partner's skills) then do assessment/ielts for the wife.

estimate your scores.. simulate different scenarios.. kung feeling mo kulang ang work exp mo.. then look for other ways to increase your points... like for example, un nga partner's skills

aarenslive021608 · January 2013

Good Day Kabayans,
Meron lang po akong enquiry tungkol kung san po ba dapat ako mag pa assess kung sa ACS or sa TRA kasi po computer engineering graduate po ako pero ang job title ko po since nag work ako is Computer technician for 12 years and currently holding the same title dito po sa saudi. Wala pa po akong professional ceritifications like MCSE or CCNP that could help me to be assessed sana sa ACS kaya iniisip ko pong mag pa assess na lang sa TRA. hingin ko lang po ang advise ninyo. thank you. visa subclass 489 po sana ang balak namin since yung cousin ko is willing to sponsor us in Victoria. thank you.

aarenslive021608 · February 2013

Another question about relative sponsorship. Pwede po bang mag sponsor ng more than 1 applicant ang relative ?

lock_code2004 · February 2013

Good Day Kabayans,
Meron lang po akong enquiry tungkol kung san po ba dapat ako mag pa assess kung sa ACS or sa TRA kasi po computer engineering graduate po ako pero ang job title ko po since nag work ako is Computer technician for 12 years and currently holding the same title dito po sa saudi. Wala pa po akong professional ceritifications like MCSE or CCNP that could help me to be assessed sana sa ACS kaya iniisip ko pong mag pa assess na lang sa TRA. hingin ko lang po ang advise ninyo. thank you. visa subclass 489 po sana ang balak namin since yung cousin ko is willing to sponsor us in Victoria. thank you.

hello @aarenslive021608 - welcome po sa forum.. there are several things i want to clarify to you..

1. if you really want to be sponsored by your cousin (visa 489 relative sponsored), you should nominate an occupation na nasa SOL Sched 1.. last time i check wala po dun ang occupation na Computer Technician, therefore hindi po na kayo pwede i-sponsor kahit na eligible pa sya..

2. if you really want to proceed with visa 489, you should check SOL and find another occupation na pwede sayo, meaning, ung job title na tugma sa job description mo ngaun.. get the ANSZCO code and check the definition/job description.

3. kung wala talaga, you check other visa types: 190(state sponsored) or, 489 (regional sponsored), eto check mo ang CSOL (another list naman ito) Sched 2, baka sakaling meron dito na tugma sa job description mo..

For example: this occupation is in CSOL Sched2: ICT Support Technicians nec - 313199-TRA
so baka dito pwede ka...google mo ang ANSZCO jobe code 313199 and check the job description kung tugma sa ginagawa mo..

kung okay. check mo kung available ba ito for sponsorship sa Victoria.. kung hindi.. hindi rin po pwede kayo isponsoran ng state...

let us know kung may questions ka pa..
goodluck po..

Yukishih · February 2013

Hello po. If magpsponsor sa relative kailangan pa din mameet ang number of years sa work experience? Kasi volunteer work lang po ako not paid. Nurse po ako. Student ako ngayon dito sa au. Thanks po sa help.