VETASSESS question

era222 · February 2023

@irmavept said:
Good day to all!
Does anyone here have some tips on do's and don'ts sa Statement of Service and CV documents for VETASSESS, particularly for Project Administrators?
Gaano ka detailed dapat ang State of Service? Is it usually the JD and then I can put more details in my CV?

Thank you very much to anyone that answers.

Not a Project Admin, but here's what I did: For statement of service, the more detailed, the better. So your name, role, working hours and setup (FT, PT, contractual), list of duties, start date (and end date, if past employment), monthly or annual salary, place of employment, company name, mga ganun.

For my CV, I just made sure to match the duties sa statement of service. But I didn't do anything special besides that (oh but I did provide a brief overview of my course, my thesis, and my OJT). I think the most important thing is consistency, so make sure job titles, dates, company names, and the like match across your documents.

irmavept · February 2023

@era222 said:

@irmavept said:
Good day to all!
Does anyone here have some tips on do's and don'ts sa Statement of Service and CV documents for VETASSESS, particularly for Project Administrators?
Gaano ka detailed dapat ang State of Service? Is it usually the JD and then I can put more details in my CV?

Thank you very much to anyone that answers.

Not a Project Admin, but here's what I did: For statement of service, the more detailed, the better. So your name, role, working hours and setup (FT, PT, contractual), list of duties, start date (and end date, if past employment), monthly or annual salary, place of employment, company name, mga ganun.

For my CV, I just made sure to match the duties sa statement of service. But I didn't do anything special besides that (oh but I did provide a brief overview of my course, my thesis, and my OJT). I think the most important thing is consistency, so make sure job titles, dates, company names, and the like match across your documents.

Maraming salamat sa reply, everything you mentioned is very clear to me. I guess my actual question would be 'how much detail do they need for the duties'? Yung the way it is stated ba sa ANZSCO, something to that effect? Or does my organization need to be very specific? Or can I addendum that to my CV na lang din?

Thank you very much ha, I have been working on my VETASSESS docs and it is taking me so long since napaparanoid ako. I know you can understand.

Thank you.

whimpee · February 2023

@irmavept said:

@era222 said:

@irmavept said:
Good day to all!
Does anyone here have some tips on do's and don'ts sa Statement of Service and CV documents for VETASSESS, particularly for Project Administrators?
Gaano ka detailed dapat ang State of Service? Is it usually the JD and then I can put more details in my CV?

Thank you very much to anyone that answers.

Not a Project Admin, but here's what I did: For statement of service, the more detailed, the better. So your name, role, working hours and setup (FT, PT, contractual), list of duties, start date (and end date, if past employment), monthly or annual salary, place of employment, company name, mga ganun.

For my CV, I just made sure to match the duties sa statement of service. But I didn't do anything special besides that (oh but I did provide a brief overview of my course, my thesis, and my OJT). I think the most important thing is consistency, so make sure job titles, dates, company names, and the like match across your documents.

Maraming salamat sa reply, everything you mentioned is very clear to me. I guess my actual question would be 'how much detail do they need for the duties'? Yung the way it is stated ba sa ANZSCO, something to that effect? Or does my organization need to be very specific? Or can I addendum that to my CV na lang din?

Thank you very much ha, I have been working on my VETASSESS docs and it is taking me so long since napaparanoid ako. I know you can understand.

Thank you.

Pwedeng high level description of your roles and responsibilities. Sakin around 9 bullet points nilagay ko and I made sure the descriptions tried to match the occupation that I was being assessed for.

irmavept · February 2023

@whimpee said:

@irmavept said:

@era222 said:

@irmavept said:
Good day to all!
Does anyone here have some tips on do's and don'ts sa Statement of Service and CV documents for VETASSESS, particularly for Project Administrators?
Gaano ka detailed dapat ang State of Service? Is it usually the JD and then I can put more details in my CV?

Thank you very much to anyone that answers.

Not a Project Admin, but here's what I did: For statement of service, the more detailed, the better. So your name, role, working hours and setup (FT, PT, contractual), list of duties, start date (and end date, if past employment), monthly or annual salary, place of employment, company name, mga ganun.

For my CV, I just made sure to match the duties sa statement of service. But I didn't do anything special besides that (oh but I did provide a brief overview of my course, my thesis, and my OJT). I think the most important thing is consistency, so make sure job titles, dates, company names, and the like match across your documents.

Maraming salamat sa reply, everything you mentioned is very clear to me. I guess my actual question would be 'how much detail do they need for the duties'? Yung the way it is stated ba sa ANZSCO, something to that effect? Or does my organization need to be very specific? Or can I addendum that to my CV na lang din?

Thank you very much ha, I have been working on my VETASSESS docs and it is taking me so long since napaparanoid ako. I know you can understand.

Thank you.

Pwedeng high level description of your roles and responsibilities. Sakin around 9 bullet points nilagay ko and I made sure the descriptions tried to match the occupation that I was being assessed for.

Maraming salamat sa iyong reply and for clarifying on the level of description, makes perfect sense since this is a "management" role than a specialist one. Maraming salamat ulit. Wish me luck please!

Conboyboy · February 2023

May I ask po pano po ang assessment ng vetassess?

May previous work po na about 5 years experience tapos na promote to become pm. Bibilangin din ba ng vetassess yung experience mo before promotion or di ka pa deemed skilled non? Ang ipapa assess sana is PM.

era222 · February 2023

@Conboyboy said:
May I ask po pano po ang assessment ng vetassess?

May previous work po na about 5 years experience tapos na promote to become pm. Bibilangin din ba ng vetassess yung experience mo before promotion or di ka pa deemed skilled non? Ang ipapa assess sana is PM.

It really depends on VETASSESS, usually if related yung work experience sa degree mo or hindi. If hindi, they might deduct more kasi they will consider that year/those years as a substitute to formal education in your chosen field/occupation. I'm not sure lang if a promotion is a factor.

irmavept · February 2023

@Conboyboy said:
May I ask po pano po ang assessment ng vetassess?

May previous work po na about 5 years experience tapos na promote to become pm. Bibilangin din ba ng vetassess yung experience mo before promotion or di ka pa deemed skilled non? Ang ipapa assess sana is PM.

I am still preparing my documents, but very useful for me now is studying the nominated occupation descriptions. If your previous experience matches a good portion of the items listed, maybe you should include it. Depending on your qualifications (educational attainment), they might also deduct a few years from your relevant working experience and in consideration of the skill level required.

Conboyboy · February 2023

@era222 said:

@Conboyboy said:
May I ask po pano po ang assessment ng vetassess?

May previous work po na about 5 years experience tapos na promote to become pm. Bibilangin din ba ng vetassess yung experience mo before promotion or di ka pa deemed skilled non? Ang ipapa assess sana is PM.

It really depends on VETASSESS, usually if related yung work experience sa degree mo or hindi. If hindi, they might deduct more kasi they will consider that year/those years as a substitute to formal education in your chosen field/occupation. I'm not sure lang if a promotion is a factor.

Well i just hope they can consider few years prior to promotion sayang den kasi yung extra 5 points lol kung papasok sa 8yrs.

So mas bet ba na gawing SD yun para mas malagay mga job scopes na pasok sa nominated occupation

era222 · February 2023

@Conboyboy said:

@era222 said:

@Conboyboy said:
May I ask po pano po ang assessment ng vetassess?

May previous work po na about 5 years experience tapos na promote to become pm. Bibilangin din ba ng vetassess yung experience mo before promotion or di ka pa deemed skilled non? Ang ipapa assess sana is PM.

It really depends on VETASSESS, usually if related yung work experience sa degree mo or hindi. If hindi, they might deduct more kasi they will consider that year/those years as a substitute to formal education in your chosen field/occupation. I'm not sure lang if a promotion is a factor.

Well i just hope they can consider few years prior to promotion sayang den kasi yung extra 5 points lol kung papasok sa 8yrs.

So mas bet ba na gawing SD yun para mas malagay mga job scopes na pasok sa nominated occupation

Hopefully, they do and you can get the 5 points—malaking bagay din yun! But there's really no way to tell until you have your outcome, all one can do is make sure na okay yung requirements. Fingers crossed for you!

SD as in statutory declaration? I think that applies lang for self-employment. Sa statement of service for each company dapat nakalagay yung duties mo sa bawat role. That's one of the main ways your skills gets assessed—if yung duties sa bawat trabaho mo ay aligned sa duties na nakalista for your nominated occupation.

Conboyboy · February 2023

@era222 said:

@Conboyboy said:

@era222 said:

@Conboyboy said:
May I ask po pano po ang assessment ng vetassess?

May previous work po na about 5 years experience tapos na promote to become pm. Bibilangin din ba ng vetassess yung experience mo before promotion or di ka pa deemed skilled non? Ang ipapa assess sana is PM.

It really depends on VETASSESS, usually if related yung work experience sa degree mo or hindi. If hindi, they might deduct more kasi they will consider that year/those years as a substitute to formal education in your chosen field/occupation. I'm not sure lang if a promotion is a factor.

Well i just hope they can consider few years prior to promotion sayang den kasi yung extra 5 points lol kung papasok sa 8yrs.

So mas bet ba na gawing SD yun para mas malagay mga job scopes na pasok sa nominated occupation

Hopefully, they do and you can get the 5 points—malaking bagay din yun! But there's really no way to tell until you have your outcome, all one can do is make sure na okay yung requirements. Fingers crossed for you!

SD as in statutory declaration? I think that applies lang for self-employment. Sa statement of service for each company dapat nakalagay yung duties mo sa bawat role. That's one of the main ways your skills gets assessed—if yung duties sa bawat trabaho mo ay aligned sa duties na nakalista for your nominated occupation.

Need ko na mag SD kasi sarado na yung ex company ko. So di ako makakagawa ng Statement of service. So ang mga proof ko is mga contracts, job desriptions at emails showing na related sa nominated occupation yung pinaggagawa ko.

diannegrace5 · February 2023

Hello po okay lang po ba na may konti difference sa letterhead na nagamit for statement of service compared sa job contract? May lines lang po yung sa job contract and yung sa upper right po bale 4 lines lang po sya compared sa letterhead ng statement of service na 5 lines. Thank you

RheaMARN1171933 · February 2023

@diannegrace5 said:

Hello po okay lang po ba na may konti difference sa letterhead na nagamit for statement of service compared sa job contract? May lines lang po yung sa job contract and yung sa upper right po bale 4 lines lang po sya compared sa letterhead ng statement of service na 5 lines. Thank you

If these are what your employer provided you, I don’t think it should be an issue. There’s no reason to worry about it unless you fabricated those letterheads

_paulette · February 2023

Hello! Need advice po. Regarding Employment evidence, nag pasa po kasi ako ng SSS & PhiliHealth contributions as Payment evidence. June 2017 po ako nahire sa company pero July 2017 na sila nag start maghulog sa SSS & PhilHealth ko so ang nakareflect sa records ko as first payment ay July 2017. Ngayon nag reply ang assessor na hindi raw tugma ang declared start of employment ko sa proof of payment. Any idea po kung paano ko i-explain na rule ng company na a month after employny pa talaga start ng contribution sa SSS & PhilHealth? And ano pa po ba pwede kong i-add as proof of payment? Will submitting payslip satisfy them?

diannegrace5 · February 2023

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@diannegrace5 said:

Hello po okay lang po ba na may konti difference sa letterhead na nagamit for statement of service compared sa job contract? May lines lang po yung sa job contract and yung sa upper right po bale 4 lines lang po sya compared sa letterhead ng statement of service na 5 lines. Thank you

If these are what your employer provided you, I don’t think it should be an issue. There’s no reason to worry about it unless you fabricated those letterheads

Thank you. Bale yung statement of service po kasi supervisor ko na po ang gumawa. 🙂

Makuneru · February 2023

@_paulette said:
Hello! Need advice po. Regarding Employment evidence, nag pasa po kasi ako ng SSS & PhiliHealth contributions as Payment evidence. June 2017 po ako nahire sa company pero July 2017 na sila nag start maghulog sa SSS & PhilHealth ko so ang nakareflect sa records ko as first payment ay July 2017. Ngayon nag reply ang assessor na hindi raw tugma ang declared start of employment ko sa proof of payment. Any idea po kung paano ko i-explain na rule ng company na a month after employny pa talaga start ng contribution sa SSS & PhilHealth? And ano pa po ba pwede kong i-add as proof of payment? Will submitting payslip satisfy them?

Sa SSS po aside sa screenshot of contributions po ninyo pwede niyo po screenshot din yung Employment History po ninyo nakalagay po doon yung employment date MM-YYYY format.
Pwede niyo din po check yung sa PAGIBIG online contributions po ninyo may nakalagay po doon na period covered nung contributions and transaction date na after a month po usually ng period covered.

aussiedreamer · February 2023

Tumtawag po ba ang vetaases?

era222 · February 2023

@aussiedreamer said:
Tumtawag po ba ang vetaases?

They just email you (or your agent).

aussiedreamer · February 2023

Pag wala po sss contri, negatibe po ba assessment? I just have coe ans some paylips

ab95 · February 2023

Hello everyone, got a Negative outcome sa assessment dahil AQF Diploma ang assessed sa degree ko. I took up BS Aircraft Engineering, and almost 6 years nang working as Technical Writer. Anyway, I don’t really want to give up my AU dream so I thought if makakahelp ba if mag take ako ng Master’s degree from a Section 1 school? Once done yan, will apply ulit for an assessment. Let me know your thoughts please. Thanks!

whimpee · February 2023

@aussiedreamer said:
Pag wala po sss contri, negatibe po ba assessment? I just have coe ans some paylips

Ang sinubmit ko for my assessment before was COE (with detailed description of duties), payslips and ITR. Di naman nagrequire ng SSS contributions.

whimpee · February 2023

@ab95 said:
Hello everyone, got a Negative outcome sa assessment dahil AQF Diploma ang assessed sa degree ko. I took up BS Aircraft Engineering, and almost 6 years nang working as Technical Writer. Anyway, I don’t really want to give up my AU dream so I thought if makakahelp ba if mag take ako ng Master’s degree from a Section 1 school? Once done yan, will apply ulit for an assessment. Let me know your thoughts please. Thanks!

Anong reason for the negative assessment? Usually naka indicate sya sa result.

ab95 · February 2023

@whimpee said:

@ab95 said:
Hello everyone, got a Negative outcome sa assessment dahil AQF Diploma ang assessed sa degree ko. I took up BS Aircraft Engineering, and almost 6 years nang working as Technical Writer. Anyway, I don’t really want to give up my AU dream so I thought if makakahelp ba if mag take ako ng Master’s degree from a Section 1 school? Once done yan, will apply ulit for an assessment. Let me know your thoughts please. Thanks!

Anong reason for the negative assessment? Usually naka indicate sya sa result.

AQF Diploma ang assessed sa degree ko, AQF Bachelor’s degree ang required for Technical Writer occupation kaya negative outcome.

aussiedreamer · February 2023

If no ITR?

*negative

RheaMARN1171933 · February 2023

@ab95 said:
Hello everyone, got a Negative outcome sa assessment dahil AQF Diploma ang assessed sa degree ko. I took up BS Aircraft Engineering, and almost 6 years nang working as Technical Writer. Anyway, I don’t really want to give up my AU dream so I thought if makakahelp ba if mag take ako ng Master’s degree from a Section 1 school? Once done yan, will apply ulit for an assessment. Let me know your thoughts please. Thanks!

That’s a long shot! What occupation were you trying to nominate?

ab95 · February 2023

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@ab95 said:
Hello everyone, got a Negative outcome sa assessment dahil AQF Diploma ang assessed sa degree ko. I took up BS Aircraft Engineering, and almost 6 years nang working as Technical Writer. Anyway, I don’t really want to give up my AU dream so I thought if makakahelp ba if mag take ako ng Master’s degree from a Section 1 school? Once done yan, will apply ulit for an assessment. Let me know your thoughts please. Thanks!

That’s a long shot! What occupation were you trying to nominate?

Technical Writer po.

whimpee · February 2023

@aussiedreamer said:
If no ITR?

*negative

Might be challenging to be honest. Need talaga to prove yung employment history and yun ang basic documents to support it. Still up to you to try, if you can provide as many documents as you can.

Makuneru · February 2023

@whimpee said:

@aussiedreamer said:
If no ITR?

*negative

Might be challenging to be honest. Need talaga to prove yung employment history and yun ang basic documents to support it. Still up to you to try, if you can provide as many documents as you can.

You can also provide Bank statements citing names of the applicant showing salary payments from employer.

charls059 · February 2023

Hi! Paano po kayo nag-submit ng organizational chart (Research and Development Manager) sa Vetassess? Kailangan ba issued ng company mismo?

Thanks!

chachacha1 · February 2023

@ab95 said:
Hello everyone, got a Negative outcome sa assessment dahil AQF Diploma ang assessed sa degree ko. I took up BS Aircraft Engineering, and almost 6 years nang working as Technical Writer. Anyway, I don’t really want to give up my AU dream so I thought if makakahelp ba if mag take ako ng Master’s degree from a Section 1 school? Once done yan, will apply ulit for an assessment. Let me know your thoughts please. Thanks!

Aww sorry to hear this. Di ba pwede mag reappeal tapos mag RPL ka nalang ng work experience to compensate for the education? If you don't mind me asking, how did they assess your BS as AQF Diploma? Was it based on the section classification ng school or number of undergrad years?

whimpee · February 2023

@charls059 said:
Hi! Paano po kayo nag-submit ng organizational chart (Research and Development Manager) sa Vetassess? Kailangan ba issued ng company mismo?

Thanks!

If your company can issue (with letterhead and signature), that will be better. In my case, since hindi possible from the company, I just made my own version and included Statutory Declaration.