State-Sponsored by one state but chose to live & work in another State

angel4ever · February 2013

thanks po @lock_code2004 and @icebreaker1928

coolflame · February 2013

@angel4ever goodluck po...

Husker · February 2013

@angel4ever - wala nmn po problema dun.. hindi nmn sila nanghuhuli ng taga ibang state..
pagdating na pagdating mo sa WA, inform them agad para mag-start na ang 2-yr residency period mo..

thanks, I was wondering about this scenario too.

TotoyOZresident · February 2013

Ingat sa mga nakalipat at sa lilipat ng ibang state siguraduhin pinayagan ng DIAC. At pinaka importante di lang verbal dapat may documento o letter na pinapayagan ng DIAC ang immigrant na lumipat ng ibang state galing sa ibang state na nag isponsor. Delikado kapag wala kayong dokumento maaring ma deport kapag nalaman na lumabag sa contract o kaya maka apekto ito sa pag apply ng citizenship. Alalahanin na every year naghihigpit ang DIAC kaya nararapat at mas maige sundin ang nasa contract at magtanung kung papayagan na lumipat ng ibang state.

Goodluck...

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

Ingat sa mga nakalipat at sa lilipat ng ibang state siguraduhin pinayagan ng DIAC. At pinaka importante di lang verbal dapat may documento o letter na pinapayagan ng DIAC ang immigrant na lumipat ng ibang state galing sa ibang state na nag isponsor. Delikado kapag wala kayong dokumento maaring ma deport kapag nalaman na lumabag sa contract o kaya maka apekto ito sa pag apply ng citizenship. Alalahanin na every year naghihigpit ang DIAC kaya nararapat at mas maige sundin ang nasa contract at magtanung kung papayagan na lumipat ng ibang state.

Goodluck...

exactly my thoughts but I was brushed off previously as it was not naman daw what was advised to her by 3 migration agent... immigration loophool daw!

jennyt · March 2013

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 01:41 PM
Nick&Bren, on Sep 27 2009, 07:56 PM, said:
Hi

Please can some one clarify whether it is possible to move to another state after being sponsored by one state eg :

Friend has 475 State sponsored visa approved for South Australia but would like to relocate to Tasmania. can he do this and just let the South Aust gov know he is moving to Tasmania or does he have to reapply for a new visa from Tasmania
thanks

Any advise will be welcome..
Brenda

Hello Brenda,
As long as you have lived in ANY Regional part of Australia for 2 years and worked in ANY Regional part of Australia for one year (in ANY occupation) it does not need to be only one Regional area. The you should meet the criteria for the SC887 PR visa. You do not need to apply for a new SC475 visa. As a courtesy you should inform SA that you are unable to find suitable work in SA and that you are moving to another state. There is no need to inform DIAC.

Regards

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angel4ever · March 2013

Scary naman post.. Clarify ko lang po @TotoyOZresident kanino po ba dapat magpaalam, sa DIAC po or sa State? awww.

Gusto ko kasi sana mag-work muna dito sa Sydney then kapag nakaipon na saka ako lipat ng Perth. Dito nga lang sa Sydney hirap na hanap ng work, pano pa sa Perth na wala ako kakilala, baka mabaliw na ako dun. haaaay!

Ingat sa mga nakalipat at sa lilipat ng ibang state siguraduhin pinayagan ng DIAC. At pinaka importante di lang verbal dapat may documento o letter na pinapayagan ng DIAC ang immigrant na lumipat ng ibang state galing sa ibang state na nag isponsor. Delikado kapag wala kayong dokumento maaring ma deport kapag nalaman na lumabag sa contract o kaya maka apekto ito sa pag apply ng citizenship. Alalahanin na every year naghihigpit ang DIAC kaya nararapat at mas maige sundin ang nasa contract at magtanung kung papayagan na lumipat ng ibang state.

Goodluck...

exactly my thoughts but I was brushed off previously as it was not naman daw what was advised to her by 3 migration agent... immigration loophool daw!

clayee · March 2013

Hello everyone,
Isa din po ito sa dilema ko sa ngayon kung lilipat ako ng ibang state. NT ang SS ko, I have been trying to submit job application online since Jan 2013 pero negative. Software development ang experience ko, but ang nakikita ko sa job posts are more on Infrastructure related like Desktop Technician. Now, I'm thinking to move to Perth kasi nandun yung friend ko and willing syang ampunin ako till i get a job. Gusto ko magcomply dun sa SS agreement na 2 years, kaso 2 mos na ko nagta-try mag apply online pero wala akong makitang trabaho. Hindi po ako sure kung kelangan ko pa magpaalam sa NT govt before I move to Perth. Naguguluhan po ako till now.

Nagreresearch po ako about this topic, and ito po yung isang nabasa ko:

Can 176 visa with SA SS move to another state in the first 2 yrs due to job?
Hi Ozzdeam

The answer is yes, he can. There is no Condition on a 176 visa that prevents the person from moving to another State within the 2 years. No such visa Condition even exists.

The DIAC website is misleading about this, in my opinion. Policy says that if a State has been kind enough to Sponsor you then you should at least make a reasonable effort to stay in the Sponsoring State for a couple of years. However, Policy is not Law and DIAC should not pretend that it is.

The actual legal position comes down to the (written) Aussie Constitution. Apparently the Constitition says that an Australian can live anywhere he likes in Australia and can do whatever he likes by way of a job, as long as whatever he does is legal. A Permanent Resident counts as an Australian for this purpose.

The only way to change the Law about this would be to alter the Constitution first, which cannot be done without an Australia-wide Referendum of all its Citizens. That is not going to happen over something as trivial as this, so in practice 176 holders swap around between States until they are able to settle somewhere they like.

I suspect that the swapping probably happens in both directions - ie one 176 holder leaves SA but another one turns up from WA or similar. It probably evens itself out in the end.

Your friend does not need permission from anyone. He merely needs to pack his bags and set off if that is what he wants to do!

jennyt · March 2013

I called DIAC today and asked if I can study in South Australia even if I was sponsored by Western Australia, and she said yes. I can apply for visa subclass 887 after living in any regional area of Australia and work for 1 year full time.

icebreaker1928 · March 2013

Apparently the Constitition says that an Australian can live anywhere he likes in Australia and can do whatever he likes by way of a job, as long as whatever he does is legal. A Permanent Resident counts as an Australian for this purpose.

I doubt this statement... opinion ko lang naman

TasBurrfoot · March 2013

@clayee - trying to get a job online prior to actually landing in Australia is difficult nowadays... We tried for the past 2 months or so but halos parehas answer that, contact us when you arrive in Melbourne...

TasBurrfoot · March 2013

Regarding this problem on getting sponsored by a state and living in another; I am just wondering, has anyone ever tried raising this matter to their respective case officer?

hotshot · March 2013

Regarding this problem on getting sponsored by a state and living in another; I am just wondering, has anyone ever tried raising this matter to their respective case officer?

magkaalamanan na kung sino matapang. hehehe

icebreaker1928 · March 2013

magkakaalaman yan pag nagrenew ng PR or pag nag-apply ng citizenship...
post kayo dito kung anong nangyari... marami interesado dito

TasBurrfoot · March 2013

Regarding this problem on getting sponsored by a state and living in another; I am just wondering, has anyone ever tried raising this matter to their respective case officer?

magkaalamanan na kung sino matapang. hehehe

EXACTLY diba? I mean, all of us has our take on this in one way or another...

hotshot · March 2013

@psychoboy : oo nga e...morality vs legality. hehehe

clayee · March 2013

@psychoboy thanks, oo nga mahirap nga makahanap ng work through online application. hopefully pagdating ko sa NT on April maging positive ang application ko.

@hotshot feeling ko meron ng nakagawa ng ganito hindi lang nagsasalita, hehe. and every year nag iiba ang immigration rules so mahirap madetermine kung anong mangyayari. bottomline, sumunod na lang talaga and magpaalam pag wala talagang makuhang work.

hotshot · March 2013

@psychoboy thanks, oo nga mahirap nga makahanap ng work through online application. hopefully pagdating ko sa NT on April maging positive ang application ko.

@hotshot feeling ko meron ng nakagawa ng ganito hindi lang nagsasalita, hehe. and every year nag iiba ang immigration rules so mahirap madetermine kung anong mangyayari. bottomline, sumunod na lang talaga and magpaalam pag wala talagang makuhang work.

oo nga e...may mga nakagawa at nagbabalak din gumawa. hehehe! but for me, personally, takot ako sa karma kaya kung ako man ay magbalak lumipat ng state, magpapaalam muna ako before attempting. mahirap na at baka after 4 years ideny ang citizenship application ko.

musta pala? ready ka na iwan ang sg? hehe kapag wala ka pa dito sa oz, ang hirap talaga magapply e. ganun din kami dati kaya nag-decide na kami pumunta dito at dito na magapply. good luck!

clayee · March 2013

@hotshot ok naman ang SS mo for sure meron kang mahahanap na work dyan. ako kasi liblib kaya medyo alanganin. pero dapat positive lagi, meron yan. nasa pinas na ko, iniwan ko na ang SG last march 1. then after holy week ako punta ng Darwin. thanks, good luck sa tin lahat!

olrac183 · June 2013

Guys anyone who have done this? SS for one state and chose to live in another state because of work?

TasBurrfoot · June 2013

Guys anyone who have done this? SS for one state and chose to live in another state because of work?

Yup, someone named Paris Hipon did this previously; no words from her lately though...

olrac183 · June 2013

yeah, seen her post but it seems naging offline na sya.. waiting for her news if any?

TasBurrfoot · June 2013

yeah, seen her post but it seems naging offline na sya.. waiting for her news if any?

She won't know the definite answer for sure...

Pumunta sya sa Sydney and she said okey lang naman daw as there is no law against it. Kumbaga there were some loopholes daw ika ng migration agent na tinanong nya and it cannot be a basis against her is she applies for citizenship.

Lahat naman tayo, hindi natin alam ang sagot eh. Only DIAC will know.

@olrac183 - why do you not want to stay sa state who gave you the SS ba?

TasBurrfoot · June 2013

Hi guys,

Here is some interesting read I got from the other thread, to quote:

My flatmate was on a VIC SS. He landed a job in Sydney 1 month after his arrival in Melbourne. He mailed the VIC government explaining his situation. He was allowed to take up the job in Sydney. If you really see no jobs and would like to move to another state without a job then you need to give the VIC government evidence of all your applications and rejections (if any) and you also need to give it some time say 3 months at the least.

http://www.expatforum.com/expats/australia-expat-forum-expats-living-australia/157912-possible-convert-190-visa-189-visa.html#post1196995

from the ABOVE; it seems his move to NSW was sanctioned after getting the job and informing the VIC government...

lock_code2004 · June 2013

Here is another information from WA FAQs:

http://www.migration.wa.gov.au/skilledmigration/Pages/Frequentquestionsaboutstatesponsorship.aspx

Q: Am I able to relocate to another state even though I have not resided in Western Australia for two years post visa grant and what is the course of action for the applicant?

A: By accepting State sponsorship you made a commitment to live and work in Western Australia for a period of two years and signed an agreement with the Government of Western Australia to do so. Applicants who request to relocate to another state will need to apply for release from their signed agreement through Skilled Migration WA.

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So you can do it officially naman pala.. you just need to provide valid reasons..

olrac183 · June 2013

@psychoboy, currently kasi may band 6 ako sa IELTS and hindi pa ako aabot sa 60 points but if I use NSW SS since as Analyst programmer puede ako for SS with band 6 and I will be able to meet 60 points.. No issue staying in NSW as long as may job but if the job opportunity arises in other state, dun papasok yung paglipat ng state.

lock_code2004 · June 2013

@olrac183 - i suggest proceed with your application... and worry about this issue later..
just my opinion, mas marami pa ring jobs sa NSW compared sa ibang states, especially for your sklls.. so you dont have worry about that...

TasBurrfoot · June 2013

@olrac183 - i suggest proceed with your application... and worry about this issue later..
just my opinion, mas marami pa ring jobs sa NSW compared sa ibang states, especially for your sklls.. so you dont have worry about that...

+1 on this; the most important thing now is to get the visa as soon as possible to immigrate to Australia...

olrac183 · June 2013

could not agree more, thanks Guys. :-)

angel4ever · July 2013

Napadaan lang sa site because I'm looking for a place to stay at Liverpool. Anyway, the only thing that worry me on this post is what if the Skilled Migration WA didn't grant your request?

Will they ask me to relocate to WA immediately?

Here is another information from WA FAQs:

http://www.migration.wa.gov.au/skilledmigration/Pages/Frequentquestionsaboutstatesponsorship.aspx

Q: Am I able to relocate to another state even though I have not resided in Western Australia for two years post visa grant and what is the course of action for the applicant?

A: By accepting State sponsorship you made a commitment to live and work in Western Australia for a period of two years and signed an agreement with the Government of Western Australia to do so. Applicants who request to relocate to another state will need to apply for release from their signed agreement through Skilled Migration WA.

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So you can do it officially naman pala.. you just need to provide valid reasons..