VETASSESS question

lock_code2004 · June 2013

@Arch_Onin - first of all, your agent should know better.. bakt kailangan pang sabihin ang title mo sa COE mo eh "Archi Draftsperson", pwede naman na iba ang title mo sa COE, pero ang job description mo is according to the ANZSCO definition of your nominated occupation..

in this case, pag inassess ka nila, alam nila na napromote ka or tumaas ang level mo, pero nandun pa rin ang sa job description mo ang Archi draftsperson.. kumbaga relevant/related occupation pa rin...

i really cannot think of any other way, but to take the risk..
submit all your documents and hopefully vetassess will understand na iba iba ang title mo,
pero relevant pa rin sa "Archi Draftsperson" ang lahat ng ginagawa mo..

what did your agent say about this issue?

lock_code2004 · June 2013

Hello po,

Nagbbackground check po ba si vet at the assessment stage pa lang? Like for example di nya magets kng ano ung position mo. Has anyone here in pinoyau na naka experience ng ganyan? The asssessment is prolonging my agony. It has been 12 weeks since they received my documents for skills assessment plus PTA. (sigh)

Thanks.

yes they do.. for my sister's application, they called HR, email her boss 3x.. and now it's on the 16th week..

that is how they do their assessment, of course they need to validate if your documents are authentic..

kung marami kayong pina-assess/PTA na mga jobs/company, medyo tatagal ng konti..
pero kung 1-2 companies lang, approx 12 weeks ang estimate..

wait wait lang po.. malapit na yan.. goodluck..

Strader · June 2013

Hi @lock_code2004 kala ko meron na result sister mo kasi nauna sya ng ilang araw sa pagpasa diba. So magmatter talaga kung ilang company ang sinali mo. Sa akin isa lang kaya 11 weeks dumating na result.di ko rin alam kung tumawag sila sa manager namin before.
@cyclin konting tiis nalang sis malapit na yan. ^^ good luck!

lock_code2004 · June 2013

@Strader - wala pa nga eh.. last week, nagemail sa kanya ung CO, and nag rerequest ng Stat Dec, tapos sinabi, but that won't matter kasi hindi nmn daw mag-add ng points sa PTA, kung hindi daw mag submit, they will proceed with the result excluding that work exp..

yung hinhingi nila state dec kasi less than 1 year lang ung experience na yun for that particular company (total work exp nya around 6 yrs), pag hindi sinama un 1 yr, so mga 5 years lang ang macredit.. so sabi namin, wag na mag stat dec and proceed with the results.. until now wla pa result.. heheh..

we're all praying na sana positive ang result.. O:-)

lock_code2004 · June 2013

iniisip namin baka negative yung result, but then bakt pa sya hihingian ng stat dec kung negative lang din nmn pala ang assessment... waaa...

Strader · June 2013

Hehehe sobrang inip na siguro ung sister mo...imagine umabot na ng 4mos.. matagal ang mga result nila ngayon kesa last year pansin ko lang. Marami cguro nagpaassess sa kanila. ^^

Arch_Onin · June 2013

@lock_code2004 - ang sabi ng agent, kumuha din ng payslips and additional documents na same position as what I applied. Parang ang dali nung pinapagawa nila no. tinry ko din naman magrequest kaso hindi lahat nag-agree sympre legal documents ung hinihingi ko tapos pinapabago ng agency. hindi talaga kaya. at first, ung agency ko ang nakadirect sa vetassess, pero ngaun hiningi ko na ung email address ng kausap nila sa vet. no choice ako, kelangan magexplain sa vet or else my application will take for ages kung ipipilit ng agency ung mga imposibleng hinihingi nila.

lock_code2004 · June 2013

@Arch_Onin - ang hirap nyan.. i can understand the agent's side, gusto nila plantsado ang documents, pare-pareho ang job title.. pero mahirap gawin nga un..

my opinion on this, just be honest with vetassess.. they will validate the authenticity of all your documents.. so baka mapapalitan mo nga ung ibang docs, pero pag nagtanong sila sa mga company eh makalimutan ng HR nyo na pinalitan pala.. tapos magkakaiba ba ng sinasabi..ang daming pwedeng mangyari..

ang point naman ng assessment is the skills (contained in your job description) and not on the job title.. vetassess would know that for sure... goodluck sir!

Arch_Onin · June 2013

maraming salamat mam, I'll keep you posted kung anong magyari sa application. Mamaya magsend nko ng additional docs sa kanila. Para skin, no point na magtago kung qualified naman.. gawa nlang ako ng letter with contact references ng mga company ko para madalian sila if ever gusto nilang tawagan lahat. Nahirapan lang ako sa advice ng agency nagpaulit ulit ang pagrequest ko ng mga reqts.. I hope and pray na sana maconsider talga ng vet ang case ko..

hellocayety · June 2013

15 weeks na wala pa ring result vetasses.bakit kaya ang tagal

cylin · June 2013

Hello po,

Nagbbackground check po ba si vet at the assessment stage pa lang? Like for example di nya magets kng ano ung position mo. Has anyone here in pinoyau na naka experience ng ganyan? The asssessment is prolonging my agony. It has been 12 weeks since they received my documents for skills assessment plus PTA. (sigh)

Thanks.
yes they do.. for my sister's application, they called HR, email her boss 3x.. and now it's on the 16th week..

that is how they do their assessment, of course they need to validate if your documents are authentic..

kung marami kayong pina-assess/PTA na mga jobs/company, medyo tatagal ng konti..
pero kung 1-2 companies lang, approx 12 weeks ang estimate..

wait wait lang po.. malapit na yan.. goodluck..

Hello @lock_code2004, most likely it might take the same weeks as your sister yung application ko. Pang-ilang week po ba bago kayo hiningan ng additional documents? Tinanong ko sa kasamahan ko dati if meron bang nagcheck, wala naman daw. I have 3 companies including yung new company ko but 4 positions. Baka nga kaya matagal dahil dyan.

Hopefully, positive ang result un lang ang importante. Thanks a lot, d pala ako nag-iisa.

lock_code2004 · June 2013

@cylin - they started checking mga 10th wk, until 13th wk, tapos 15th wk nag-ask ng additional stat dec for Point Test Advice, 16th wk sinabi na ready na for decision.. now it's the 18th wk..

medyo complicated kasi ang case nya, she is applying for a Manager job code, pero hindi manager ang title nya (supervisor/asst manager level), pero based on the anzsco code, her job description, validated by their company, signed by boss and HR, saktong sakto ang ginagawa nya...

i agree, as long as positive yun ang importante..
let's pray for that..

clickbuddy2009 · June 2013

Hhhmmm.. Parang marami ata akong napapansin na nagkakaron ng problema sa pagsecure ng detailed COE tsaka mga additional reqts like payslip. Would it be ok kaya if i'll just include those positions that I held here in SG from 2 companies rather than include those work that was way back in PH? Mahihirapan kasi ako kung isasama ko pa yung sa pinas kasi yung iba dun wala ako payslip at wala rin sa sss contribution. Anyway, yung experience ko naman dito sa SG (6plus years) is already enough to satisfy the required number of years to claim 10points. In this case, kelangan ko pa po ba magpoints test advice?

Maraming salamat po

lock_code2004 · June 2013

Hhhmmm.. Parang marami ata akong napapansin na nagkakaron ng problema sa pagsecure ng detailed COE tsaka mga additional reqts like payslip. Would it be ok kaya if i'll just include those positions that I held here in SG from 2 companies rather than include those work that was way back in PH? Mahihirapan kasi ako kung isasama ko pa yung sa pinas kasi yung iba dun wala ako payslip at wala rin sa sss contribution. Anyway, yung experience ko naman dito sa SG (6plus years) is already enough to satisfy the required number of years to claim 10points. In this case, kelangan ko pa po ba magpoints test advice?

Maraming salamat po

1. yes pwede mo na hindi isama ang ibang work experience mo, if you think your current work exp is enough to have total 60pts or higher for the EOI
2. advisable ang PTA kung iba ibang company or iba-ibang job ttile ang work mo.. para may basis ang DIAC sa pagclaim mo ng points.. pag hindi ka nag PTA, ang i-aassess lang nila ung minimum requirements ng vetassess (check their job groupings, iba iba ang min work exp requirements).. but if it is just me, i'll get PTA for peace of mind..

rei_ya · June 2013

@cylin hello.. ako 10th week sa vet today..wla pa rin any updates or additional docs requested.. lets keep on praying!

clickbuddy2009 · June 2013

Great! ganito na nga lang ang gagawin ko para di masyadong hassle at di rin masyado maantala ang pagkolekta ko ng mga necessary documents.

Just to clarify lang po ha:
1. Kapag halimbawa isa lang na work experience ang ipapaassess ko, yung detailed COE lang din ba ng job na yun ang kelangan kong isubmit for assessment?
2. No need to submit na ba yung mga COE from other jobs in PH?
3. How about dun sa resume/ CV, di rin dapat isasama yung ibang work experience?

If this is the case then I may not need to go back to PH because all the necessary docs are already available here in SG. I don’t want to prolong the agony kaya gusto ko na maisubmit ang application ko as soon as possible.

Maraming salamat ulit lock_code2004

lock_code2004 · June 2013

@clickbuddy2009

1. yes. kung ano lang ipapa-assess mo na work exp yun lang kailangan mo na docs (COE, detailed job desc, other docs like payslip, tax return, contract.. etc)

2. NO need to provide docs for PH jobs, kasi hindi mo nmn pala isasama eh

3. you can still include that in your resume, pero hindi nmn nila titingnan un, dahil hindi mo nmn isasama..

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if you haven't looked at the payment/fee structure for vetassess PTA, iba ang bayad depende sa dami ng company/work exp na ipapa-assess mo.. so pag-apply mo, since 1 company lang , naturally ang babayaran mo lang ung pang 1 company..

dahil 1 company lang binayaran mo (as part of your assessment) yun lang ang i-evaluate ng vetassess.. so kahit magsama ka ng ibang docs for other comapny, kung hindi ka nman nagbayad, wala din.. no pay no assessment..

vhoythoy · June 2013

Ang tagal..,, mag 10 weeks plng ako 4 companies with PTA. Dapat mag hire sila ng additional na tao. Nagstart yta sila asikasuhin docs mo after 2 months pa

tutik · June 2013

ilang points po ang pwedeng makuha sa PTA? thanks in advanced!

lock_code2004 · June 2013

ilang points po ba ang pwedeng makuha sa PTA?

depende po kung ilang years ang work exp nyo na relevant sa nominated occupation..
at kung ang employment nyo ay sa Australia or outside Australia
check nyo ang EOI pts system..

clickbuddy2009 · June 2013

Guys, may mali ata sa assessing authority ko. Mukhang under Engineers Australia dapat yung nominated occupation ko, hindi vetassess. All this time nasa isip ko talaga is vetassess kasi inassume ko na civil eng’g technician ang pwede ko inominate na job. Pero kanina nakita ko job description:

Civil Eng’g Technician -312212
Conducts tests of construction materials, prepares sketches and tabulations, and assists in estimating costs in support of Civil Engineering Professionals and Engineering Technologists. Registration or licensing may be required.

Before you can migrate to Australia as a skilled migrant, you must have your skills assessed by the relevant national assessment authority. The assessment authority for your occupation is Vocational Education and Training Assessment Services.
See: VETASSESS

Civil Eng’g Draftsperson -312211
Prepares detailed drawings and plans for civil engineering work in support of Civil Engineering Professionals and Engineering Technologists.

Before you can migrate to Australia as a skilled migrant you must have your skills assessed by the relevant national assessment authority. The assessment authority for your occupation is Engineers Australia.

Mas pasok sa draftsperson yung work experience ko since more on preparing detailed drawings talaga ako. Di kasi ako nagcconduct ng mga tests for construction materials at estimate kagaya ng nakalagay sa job description ng technician.

Pero ang nakalagay naman sa SOL 1, yung civil eng’g draftsperson, dalawa yung assessing authority = Engineers Australia / VETASSESS.

Hayyy… nakakadrain pala talaga ng utak tong pagrresearch. How much more kapag nagstart nko sa processing. Mukhang mas mabusisi pa ata yung assessment sa EA kesa Vetassess.

lock_code2004 · June 2013

@clickbuddy2009 - tama mas mabusisi ang EA kesa Vetassess..
at baka mahirapan ka sa EA, dahil hindi ka engineering degree (you mentioned Archi grad ka)
so kung pwede ka sa Vetassess (please double check), i suggest go for Vetassess..

aliane · June 2013

@clickbuddy2009 hi..my husband's nominated skill is also civil engineering draftsperson (archi grad)...sa vetassess kmi ng pa assess and we had our positive result last week...goodluck

clickbuddy2009 · June 2013

@clickbuddy2009 hi..my husband's nominated skill is also civil engineering draftsperson (archi grad)...sa vetassess kmi ng pa assess and we had our positive result last week...goodluck

@aliane - Thank you for this, atleast nabuhayan ulit ako ng loob. I finally found someone with similar path as mine.

Lubusin ko na rin po ang pagtatanong. Ilang years of experience po ang pinaassess ng hubby mo? Ano-ano po yung mga additional documents na hiningi ng vetassess?

Thank you

jvframos · June 2013

@lock_code2004 exactly 12 weeks, received message from vet assess with positive response. thanks for all the information you gave. IELTS na lang talaga kulang to lodge my application.

lock_code2004 · June 2013

@jvframos - sayang sana nagielts kana..
teka kulang ba 60 points mo kahit wala kang IELTS points?

wait, your occupation is in CSOL Sched 2, so you need State Sponsorship..
i think most of the members here with the same occupation applied to WA..

jvframos · June 2013

@lock_code2004 nagtake na ko ilets, kaso may 6.5 ako sa speaking... kulang ako ng points ang baba na kasi ng score ko sa age kaya i really need to nail this ielts... retake ako so kelangan talaga seryosohin ang ielts. u are correct, need namin to apply for SS to WA.... long process pa talaga and a lot of hard work.... mukhang matagal tagal pa kami dito UAE. but good thing is may naaccomplish na kami na isa, thank GOD

aliane · June 2013

@clickbuddy2009 your welcome

... 8+ yrs ang na include nmin na job nya..5 yrs sa Pinas as Structural detailer and 3+ dtu sa SG as Design engr...then ang na assess ng Vetasses ay yng recent nyang work as Design Engr.
Mayroon lahat COE yng ns Pinas nyang work, pwera lng itong nandtu s SG kc bk ndi kmi bigyan kya ang ipinadala nmin ay yung Contract of Employment nya w/c included dn nmn yng Job description.
So after 3 months of waiting sa Vetassess, ng email sila na ngre request ng Work Reference Letter certified by your current company, so ng request c hubby sa company nya at ngpadala kmi nun via mail ulit(dhl)
Then after a few days..ng email sila na..we could check the result,,.Positive
Then after 1 week we receive the letter stated that:

Skills Assessment Outcome: Positive
Based on the evidence provided, the qualification and employment described above meet the requirements of your nominated occupation and are assessed as suitable for migration purposes

cylin · June 2013

I just got a good news today!!! Thank God for this blessing!

Skills Assessment: Positive (Your assessment result is SUCCESSFUL. Your detailed assessment result will be sent by post)
Points Test: Completed (Your detailed points test result will be sent by post)

If only I passed the IELTs exam, I could probably move on. Well, at least I got the result now and I'm still happy.

Thanks all guys for the comforting replies. Way to go sa EOI naman ako.

vhoythoy · June 2013

I just got a good news today!!! Thank God for this blessing!

Skills Assessment: Positive (Your assessment result is SUCCESSFUL. Your detailed assessment result will be sent by post)
Points Test: Completed (Your detailed points test result will be sent by post)

If only I passed the IELTs exam, I could probably move on. Well, at least I got the result now and I'm still happy. Thanks all guys for the comforting replies. Way to go sa EOI naman ako.

congrats