PCA/ Caregiver

mrluis · February 2013

Hi Everyone,

Ask ko lng if madami bang caregiver, PCA work dyan? For my husband pag nagmigrate kami dyan next year. Secondary ko kasi sya eh. Nurse sya sa pinas, tpos may 4 years experience ng Caregiving sa Los angeles. Magagamit nya kaya mga experience nya as caregiver sa australia. thanks again

Mackoy1012 · February 2013

yes, ang alam ko madami aged care facilities around melbourne suburbs..

mrluis · February 2013

thanks mackoy for the info. Ayan nabuhayan husband ko hehe

Cebu88 · February 2013

yeah marami didto pero hindi ko lang alam if tatangapin ba nila ang experience sa US kasi dito they will just accept or recognize ang system nila sa education sa health like if grad ka ng nursing tapos may experience ka pero dnhi ka grumaduate dito sa austrailia they won't accept you as nurse but they can accept you as PCA but still they will require you to take the accreditation for certificate Level II, III or IV for aged care.

wynx · March 2013

tanong ko lang po sana, meron ba specific assessing body pra sa mga caregiver na gusto mag migrate sa Australia. thank you.

Rommel1982 · March 2013

@wynx as far as i know wala yata..

wynx · March 2013

@Rommel1982 ah ganun po ba. salamat.

li_i_ren · March 2013

Caregiving is for like yung high school grad or drop out but ayaw na mag university or continue high school. Take lng sila ng certificate course so pwdi na silang caregiver.

Or yung mga older adults na walang degrees but nag take ng certificate in age care... Weeks lng kasi yan eh. Or nursing students as their part time job.

Di naman recognized profession ang caregiving..though mahirap din trabaho nila. By this i mean wala sa shortage or skills lists. Its like being a kitchen aide or technical aide yung taga linis ng instruments, wait staff or other blue collar work. Certificate lng of training to get that job so walang professional body kasi short course lng sya unlike a white collar job that requires a university degree.

wynx · March 2013

@li_i_ren
so by just having a caregiver certificate is not enough qualification to migrate to Australia. Basically, they need other mean to migrate like having family sponsorship or nominate other skills kung meron sila iba other thatn caregiving. tama po ba?

li_i_ren · March 2013

Yup, check the immigration website caregiving will not be in any nominated skill. So if it is not on the list then it means you cant get sponsorship for it in any state.

But saying that lets say you have an i.t. Or other profession sponsorship already so you already have a visa then you cant find work with your degree but you were able to get a caregiving job. So ok pa din to
work as caregiver diba while looking for your real line of work.

The catch is if you came on a work visa and not a p.r. Visa cause you are not in your line of work you will have a hard time getting residency.

Yan lang problem with that kasi its not a nominated skill. But otherwise still good pay naman and its a decent job but eventually you or your spouse must have a job that is in line with your degree/ nominated skill.

TasBurrfoot · March 2013

Yup, check the immigration website caregiving will not be in any nominated skill. So if it is not on the list then it means you cant get sponsorship for it in any state.

But saying that lets say you have an i.t. Or other profession sponsorship already so you already have a visa then you cant find work with your degree but you were able to get a caregiving job. So ok pa din to
work as caregiver diba while looking for your real line of work.

The catch is if you came on a work visa and not a p.r. Visa cause you are not in your line of work you will have a hard time getting residency.

Yan lang problem with that kasi its not a nominated skill. But otherwise still good pay naman and its a decent job but eventually you or your spouse must have a job that is in line with your degree/ nominated skill.

I have a mate who is in Sydney as a secondary while the wife is working as an accountant for a super fund...

He is doing this as part-time whilst doing his certificate 4 in accountancy - wonder how much you mean by good pay for this...

Gotta thing of lots of alternative plans yah know... eheheh!!

li_i_ren · March 2013

Still minimum wage.. If single ka then its ok. If couple kayo and 1 has a white collar job then ok pa din. But if you depend on it lang then the partner no job or same job plus with kids... It wont do.

Our aide is pinay like a caregiver but since icu mo pt. care just equipment cleaning, she works 2 jobs and hubby is a post driver. Ok lng for them kasi they have been here for 25 plus years so the mortgage is almost paid off.. The kids finished na ng uni. But she told me before when the kids were all in school sila both couple double job.

Accountants if CPA in australian meaning degree is from here talaga.. Pay is good almost 70- 80 plus thou a year same with us in allied health eg nurses. Pt. ot etc.

Doctors are still paid highest with a start pay of 80-100 thou a year. Starting pay pa lang yan,, no penal rates pa and ot.. Which most doctors do.

Nadine · March 2013

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li_i_ren · March 2013

Tama bah nadine?;) hehehehe! Based on ads from seek.co.au lang yun numbers ko:)

Nadine · March 2013

Nah, seek.com is not very reflective of actual figures. Too many variables kasi, like years of experience, level of expertise, local experience, etc. In essence, whatever job meron tayo ngayon will all count towards local experience and puhunan natin yun for the future.

fhengay89 · March 2013

Hello need pa po kumuha ng Certificate 111 for aged care dito, ndi po valid d2 ang Caregiver sa ibang bansa..pde po kau mag-aral d2 fast tract 3weeks lecture 2 weeks training sa nursing home then after po NG training nio pde na kau mag-apply sa nursing home na pinagtrainingan nio depende po sa manager kung may vacant sila or nagustuhan kau...thank u & God Bless

dft · March 2013

@fhengay89 ibig sbhn ba nun ng ssponsor ng work permit ung employer para sa grad ng aged course? kc balak ko sana un dn kunin ko kaya lng bka mahabng proseso para ma sponsoran ka mag aaral ka ng ibang cors pg malapit na mapaso stud vis. tama po ba? salamat

li_i_ren · March 2013

I dont think there are employers who will sponsor for an aged care certificate... Kasi they can only sponsor for jobs that are on the skills list.

Also backread sa thread... People have been saying you cant apply for a visa using caregiving as a profession kasi wala po sa skills list ng immigration. Hence, walang employer pwding mag sponsor. Only jobs on the immigration list na may shortage pwdi mag sponsor ang employer.

So why and how will they be able to sponsor someone for said certificate course when hindi nila maipasa visa pa lng with immigration kasi hind listed as a skill shortage ang caregivers/PCA?

Only way is to get a visa on your own. What fheng is saying.. There are nursing homes offering the course which you pay for personally and if there are job vacancy after your training they will be able to hire you if wala naman at least you have a certificate sa age care.

dft · March 2013

@li_i_ren sa tingin nio po b anung course maganda for stud vis. d kc ko pasok sa aphra 6.5 lng ielts ko

plan ko kc july intake ng aged care pero kung ganun lng d pauulit ulit lng ako mg stud visa matagal na proseso. anu po b ang magandang cors ung medyo mura lng leading para masponsoran (d po RN sa ngaun kc ayoko muna mg ielts ulit

) salamat po!

li_i_ren · March 2013

I dont know but im a r.n. here.. Imagine if caregiver ka nasa 30k annually maybe if full time. But if r.n. ka starting is 60k to 75k annually.

And just because of ielts.. You wont go for it?

Then if you study here.. You will be spending money instead of earning money in a course you are not sure there are job hiring,

I dont get it. Sorry,

fhengay89 · July 2013

Kung and2 na po kau at nag aaral ng RN pede po kau mag apply sa nursing home as aged care...may mga nursing home po na tumatangap kahit walang cert..111 bsta RN satin or nag aaral ng RN marami po aq friend na ganyan...or pde din kau mag fast Tract 1month lang un mga 2k AUD po Tapus habang nagtratraining kau sa nursing home mag apply ka pag interesado sila sau pde ka nila sponsoran ng 457 working visa sabihin mo lang ung case mo...may classmate aq sa aged care na ganyan TV Lang sya for 3 months Tapus nag aral sya fast tract then ung pinagtrainingan nyang nursing home nagustuhan sya at willing syang sponsoran Kaya after Ma expired visa nya umuwi sya satin at hinintay sya ng nursing home na makabalik d2...nag apply ulit sya ng tV Papunta d2 after nun habang stay sya d2 inayus na ng nursing home ang sponsorship s knya at nomination then apply na sya 457 working visa after 2 year apply na sya PR.

Yukishih · July 2013

For Cert 3, Go to Vicseg $750 course. If RN sa atin depending on the evaluation sa docs mo ang placement is 40-60 hours. Dun ako kumuha ng crash course na cert 3 kasi lahat ng inaapplyan ko naghahanap ng cert kahit na RN ako dyan and student nurse dito. May iba na walang cert 3 pero nakaland ng job ang pinakita lang yung clinical assessment tool. Hth.

Katoz · August 2013

hello po, been here sa melbourne south east suburb for 3weeks now. wala pa rin po kami ni hubby kahit odd job. He's a student and I'm his dependent. Pareho po kami nurse back in the Phils. We've been trying to search for caregiver jobs but wala pa rin feedback. Meron isang nagoffer ng cert 3 aged care course for 10weeks daw its free kung eligible ako for gov't funding. 167 nlang daw ang babyaran, yung materials for study and polo shirt as uniform sa placement. I'm not sure kung eligible ako for gov't funding. What do you think? Please help us. Yung mga cleaning jobs requires us to have car naman. Kung may marerefer po kayo, we would really appreciate. Thanks

Yukishih · August 2013

@Katoz hi. Check mo muna if eligible ka sa offer for cert 3 na offer para less gastos. Better talaga if kumuha ka ng cert. madami akong classmates na hinahanapan ng cert kahit last term na namin ng nursing. If may cert 3 ka malilito ka sa dami ng tatawag sayo.

xhaiza · August 2013

@Katoz Hi, If you are on student visa that means you're not eligible for government funding. You can check newspaper ads and you can also go to the city and apply to restaurants for temporary work. Just to inspire you my hubby got a job in the Nursing Home even before he started with the Cert III, He is also a nurse in the Philippines. I hope you'll both find jobs soon. All the best.

Katoz · August 2013

@Yukishih @xhaiza turned out hindi nga ako eligible kasi pangPR and citizens lang sya. Masyado naman malaki yung 750 kung magtraining kami. Sabi dito sa place namin di daw uso newspaper and wala naman kami mahanapan na newspaper sa shops puro free thursday ads lang. May I know kung ano name ng Nursing home na tumaggap sa hubby mo @xhaiza ? Thanks a lot guys. This really means a lot. Marking our 1st month here on Saturday. Sana magkawork na talaga kami kahit sa shops or factory. Godbless

caiomhe10 · August 2013

@Katoz have you tried applying mghanap ng work online? thru seek? ano nga pla course ni hubby mo? kameng mag-asawa plan din nmin pmunta dyan next year..ako ang mgstudent at sya dependent ko..

Katoz · August 2013

@caiomhe10 yup we've tried to apply online through seek, indeed, careerone, gumtree, lahat ng makita namin sa google. si hubby ay nurse din like me. Sabi ko nga try na nya maginquire sa school nya baka may vacant job na pwede sya or pati na rin ako. Ano course mo and san sa oz?

caiomhe10 · August 2013

@Katoz im planning to take BS Nursing conversion course for 1 yr.. may offer letter n aq sa Curtin Univ sa Perth, wait ko pa reply ng Deakin then saka ako mgdecide kung san ako mag-enroll. hubby mo anong course at sang school?

Katoz · August 2013

@caiomhe10 Diploma in Community Services kinukuha nya sa Chisholm Institute. Originally sa Victoria University dapat sya kaso ang tagal ng response nila and processing. Tapos after 2months meron na daw sya offer kaya lang dinefer nila kasi hindi daw magopen yung course kaya naghanap agad ako ng other options. Luckily ang bilis magprocess at magrespond ng Chisholm so here we are now. Masyado din kasi mahal ang bachelor kaya hindi yan kinuha nya. Dapat sana Diploma in Nursing na lang kaya lang wala na slot and next year pa yun next intake eh sayang yung time kung everytime na lang may aberya eh baka abutin kami ng 3years. hehe. Ayun okay naman yun school nya, magagaling naman daw instructors and malaki din sahod pag yun ang naging career path nya. Ako gusto ko sana magregister pero hindi pa ngyon. kailangan muna namin makawork.

caiomhe10 · August 2013

@Katoz ano bang pwde maging work pag diploma in community services? gaano katagal un course nya? oo nga mahal talaga BS nursing course.. un iba nga 2 yrs nursing course pa itake pra automatic may graduate search visa good for additional 18 months..kaso di ko na carry un tuition for 2 yrs eh.. mhrap naman ipunin un kung aasahan lang un salary sa part time..
may kids na ba kau? kame meron na pero plan nmin iiwan muna sa pinas..