Job offer on 457 Visa - What sort of things are included on the offer?

epiboy99 · September 2013

@Howard Yup nasa Australia na ako. Kailangan ng company na mag apply para makapagsponsor sila. Yun ang first step. Tapos ng sponsorhip, nomination naman. After that, Tsaka ka apply ng visa. usually, pag na lodge na yung nomination mo, pwede ka na mag apply ng 457 visa. Sa caase ko, di na rin ako hiningan ng IELTS. Tapos swerte na rin kasi yung wife ko mag 2 years na nagwork dyan sa singapore. Di na rin kami hiningan ng SG police clearance. NBI lang pareho ang binigay namin.

Sa pag process, depende kasi. mas matagal kung magaapply pa lang sila for sponsorhip. Yung sa akin kasi pwede na sila mag sponsor. From nomination to visa grant mga 7-8 weeks inabot.

Howard · September 2013

@epiboy99 sir salamat po nakavacation ksi un MD na tumawag sken next week pa daw balik san po kau sa Australia un tumawag po na company sken sa Adelaide.
Sir balitaan ko po kau kung sa awa ni Lord maging ok lahat. (Dear Lord, pls help us...)

God bless sir at ingat po

lock_code2004 · September 2013

@Howard - congrats po.. sana tuloy tuloy na yan..
basahin nyo po ang visa 457 process sa skillselect website para alam nyo rin..

ang pinakamaganda, kung hindi alam ng company nyo kung papano..
eh maghire sila ng mga MARA to process your visa..

in case na ayaw nila gumastos, at kung payag kayo, para lang matuloy ang deal... eh magsuggest kayo ng mga ibang options like, pwede bang hati kayo sa processing fee..
or salary deduction.. etc...

yung first step kasi ang pinaka mahirap na processing for 457.. pag hindi pa registered ang company mo sa DIAC, hindi pa sila allowed mag sponsor ng 457... like what @epiboy99 mentioned... at yung stage na yun ang hindi natin alam kung pano gawin..

goodluck sir..

Howard · September 2013

@lock_code2004 Thank you po sir sana nga po magtuloy tuloy na para d na ako mag aral dun malalaki din un expenses. Thanks Lord may pumansin sa cv ko.

Sir salamat din po sa palagi nyo pgbibigay ng advice sken kahet mejo makulit minsan hhehehe.

God bless po sten lahat at balitaan ko kau sir sa update pag nag ok na po.

epiboy99 · September 2013

@Howard tamang tama, nasa Adelaide ako. God bless sa iyo. Kita kits pagdating mo dito.

Howard · September 2013

@epiboy99 Sir sana nga po maasikaso na kagad ng employer. God first po. Pag may awa po si Lord nakapunta kmi jan ikaw una una ko hahanapin oks lng po ba? hehehe.

Ingat sir

Howard · September 2013

sir sa university of adeliade ka ba ksi para ng apply c mrs jan sa seek.au may opening cla sa HR.

God Bless

Nadine · September 2013

Hello pips!

Eto copy-paste ko lang sa older post ko. Some basic things about the 457 po. Please feel free to add or correct me if I have some missed points.

The 457 is generally 3-part po kasi (sa pagkakaalam ko).

EMPLOYER SPONSORSHIP

Hindi lahat ng australian companies are allowed to bring foreign workers. May certain income bracket or earning power kailangan ipakita for a significant number of years, before they can nominate. Meron din po minimum number of employees, mostly in the thousands. Small companies, generally cannot. Applying to become a sponsor, I believe is a pretty complicated process.

Second, they have to prove that they cannot get australian citizens or PRs already onshore, thus the need to hire foreigners. With this year's tightening of 457 visa (lalo pa ngayon kay Abbott), nag-police na po kasi ang gobyerno nila sa mga companies. Hindi na basta-basta pumapayag ang gobyerno. Ang rationale: if makakahanap ng Australian to do the job, so why get somewhere else. Something to ask: Is the work you're going to be doing something specialised and in-demand in Australia?

EMPLOYEE NOMINATION

The only way po kasi Australian companies can bring foreigners in is through a working visa, which is generally the 457 or business long-term. To be able to do that, the worker must be earning at least $60.000 as per DIAC. This figure is submitted to DIAC during visa application.

Also, ang usual nito, nasa SOL ang occupation. Meaning, may shortage talaga. I don't have the SOL list, but you have to also look at SOL. This will be your guide whether you will get a shot of getting PR down the line. Also whether DIAC will likely approve your nomination.

VISA APPLICATION

Dito na papasok ang medicals, and the visa application itself. Most hiring companies pay for these. Also, most headhunters or agencies do not charge anything. So hindi kayo dapat pinagbabayad talaga. Wala pa akong na-meet na headhunter nagpapabayad. Sa mga nakausap ko na 457 (whether healthcare, IT, engineer etc., pero sa Brisbane lang po ako ha)... shoulder ng kumpanya lahat from nomination to relocation.

* If all above processes nasusunod, I'm thinking po that it's a safe bet that the company is legit at hindi abusado and thus, the transition to Au will be smoother.

MeLiMaRt · September 2013

Just want to share my story.
I got an offer to work for a dredging company based in Perth as an Accountant, but my assignment would be in their new business in Nebo QLD. I was under 457 visa.
I was assigned in Perth HO for first few months suposedly for training.
Unfortunately, I lost my job eventually since their new business in QLD is not doing good at all. I was forced to resign, there are long stories behind but I wont elaborate anymore.
I had worked for them for only 6 months.
Out of fear of the cost of living in Perth, without a job, I decided to go back home nalang.
Tried my luck naman to look for another job/employer sponsor for about three weeks, but I failed to get, simply because of my status. I received interview invitations and phone calls mostly from recruitment agencies, highly qualified naman kaso nga lang when they learn about my status, most of their clients do not have any sponsorship capabilities nor want to hire people like me who has temporary visa.

There are a lot of Filipinos in WA, who has the same stories like mine. Marami sa kanila di naman nagjojoin ng forums like here. Massive ang job cuts sa WA nowadays esp. for 457 visa holders.

Sadly, even when I am here in Ph, I even try to apply thru seek, and other online sites.
But I almost give up dahil sa status ko, I got no responses.
Nakakapanghinayang nga lang dahil in effect parin ang visa ko per VEVO, which is still good for 4 years, up to Dec.2016, that my ex employer paid for everything.

But I havent receive any letter from DIAC of any warning about my visa validity.
Nakakainis lang na very restricted ang 457 visa, that you have to find an employer sponsor and may nomination pa na requirement.

Is there anyone who can suggest for what I can do better? Is there any way for me to know the status of my previous employer's sponsorship and nomination's validity?
I haven't inquired from DIAC yet, as I dont even know how to start inquiring from them..lol...
I am planning to contact my previous employer if there is still possibility na makabalik pa ako sa kanila, but the chances are very slim.

Otherwise, my next plan is to apply for PR nalang since i was able to save naman when i worked with them.
Is there any restriction, like my 457 visa is still valid,do i need to wait for DIAC to automatically cancel it before I apply for PR?
Guys, please help to enlighten me... any suggestions, comments would be appreciated.

epiboy99 · September 2013

@Howard Sa UniSA ako. God bless din.

lock_code2004 · September 2013

@MeLiMaRt - i suggest check with your employer kung na-cancel na ba ang visa 457 mo..
kung hindi... eh pwede kapa mag-apply dito kung willing ang ibang employer na itransfer sa knila ang 457 visa mo..

you are an accountant, very much eligible to apply for PR..
meron po tayong separate thread for accountant, tips on how to apply for assessment..

never give up...
goodluck..

lock_code2004 · September 2013

@MeLiMaRt - regarding your last query... no, walang restriction dun..
kahit valid pa ang 457 mo you can actually apply for PR visa..
ganyan naman talaga ang normal route... 457->PR visa..

apc · September 2013

Big visa debts cripple Filipino workers' dreams of a better life

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A warning to Filipinos being asked by agencies to pay for their 457 visas

meehmooh · September 2013

@MeLiMaRt .. i think u better apply for PR while you're in Philippines. Time is much more important since nag iincrease na rin ang mga visa charges...

nfronda · October 2013

@MeLiMaRt.. As u are on a 457 visa, pag nag resign or naging redundant ka sa employer na nagsponsor sau u have to find another employer within 90 days na pwedeng magnominate sau. Within 90 days na hindi kpa mkpaghanap magiging void na ung visa mo. Dati 28 days lg yan, pro ngaun ginawa na nilang 90 days. So u have enough tym pa pra maghanap.

Milkan · October 2013

apc its a small price to pay for employers its like they are going to save maybe 50k or more, to give you an example yung mga contractual dito sumasahod ng 120K annually .. makakakuha sila ng employee overseas mga 70-80k lang na sahod .. kung gumastos sila ng 10k pag pprocess ng visa ok lang ...
Strict na po yung DIAC ngayon. dapat equivalent terms and working conditions na ang Citizens and 457 visa holders. ung ano sweldo. Dapat kung ano salary offer ng employer sa citizens working the same position dapat yundin ang sa 457 visa holders. kaya yung employer namin napilitan talaga gawing same yung sweldo ng mga employees niya na citizens at yung mga 457 visa holders niya. kung hindi ganito ang nangyayari sa workplace niyo then hindi sinusunod ng employer ang sponsorship obligations nila. May mga employers talaga na hindi sumusunod pero pagnahuli sila ng DIAC, malaki penalty nila. kami nga pumunta yung DIAC last year sa workplace namin nag check. kaya naghihigpit yung DIAC ngayon sa processing ng 457 dahil maraming pasaway na employers. Ang 457 is for genuine skills shortage at hindi para makatipid ang employer sa sweldo.

Mas malaki talaga sweldo ng contractual per hour compared sa full time kasi wala naman benefits yung contractual like mga leaves...bale no work, no pay yan sila.

tama ka dyan apc, actually, nuon pa un policy ng 457 visa na same ang level ng foreign workers at yung mga citizens pag dating sa sahod.
like sa case namin, nung dumating kami 2008 as a 457 visa holders e $22/hr kami. yung mga bagong hire na citizens ay same din ung rate sa amin (may additional $1/hr lang pag me dagdag silang skill like a forklift ticket) then every year meron kaming increase as per Consumer Price Index, plus me every 6months appraisal.

Basta laging tandaan na ang 457Visa holders ay merong exceptional skill or shortage skill dito sa Au at hindi ibig sabihin na kaya na hire ka as 457 dahil kelangan ng company na makatipid.

marc_chrono · October 2013

@nfronda: Nireverse ko yung decision ko after talking to the employer. What I need right now is to find an apartment along south line.

nfronda · October 2013

@marc_chrono..What do u mean ni reverse mo ang decision mo? Inaccept mo ulit ang offer?

marc_chrono · October 2013

Yup. Then nakipag-negotiate ako.

ziri · February 2015

Hingi po ako ng advise re. employment offer ko sa Australia. First time ko kasi mag apply abroad through Agency. Anyway eto po ang sitwasyon, na interview ako ng employer for General Accountant in Clermont, QLD. Nakaindicate sa contract 4 yrs ako magwwork don. Nung nagsign ako wala ako maisip na tanong kasi 1. very overwhelmed and 2. wala ako idea sa mga itatanong ko. Now, nag aayos ako ng requirements ko sinabi sa akin ng agency na ang placement ko is $5720 at 45 pesos fix exchange rate. Hindi shoulder ng employer yon. Bigla parang ayaw ko ng tumuloy. Wala din ako idea kung pano airfare ko? Ang alam ko shoulder ko din ang food and accommodation ko doon. Pero yung first month ko dun hindi ko alam kung saan ako titira. Saka 4 yrs contract ba ang tama talaga? Salamat po sa makakapag bigay linaw or suggestions kung paano gagawin ko.