IELTS for General Skilled Migration visa (Sub class 189)

Betchay · December 2013

General Skilled Migration visa (Sub class 189) Do I really need to pass 7 pts for the English Language so that I can continue processing my application for visa 189?

gmad06 · December 2013

@Betchay welcome to the forum
it is not necessary at all times but it may be required by the skills assessing body, minimum requirement ng skillselect is 6 for all modules...

now, it would be better if you can provide more info like the job code you selected and your points status, etc.....

Betchay · December 2013

Nominated Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
December 11,2013-- Gathered all the Requirements foe ACS
December 13,2013 -Submitted the Reqs. to ACS

so far ito palang po not sure if I can continue even though pending pa papers ko with ACS di ko pala alam kung positive or negative ang assessment ko.

gmad06 · December 2013

try to do a rough estimation of your points..if positive ACS mo,ilang years kaya macredit sau,in terms of eduaction and overseas experience..if negative ACS mo,estimate mo din ilang points kelangan mo para maka 60points...

hav u familiarized urself with skills select?

Betchay · December 2013

yup sir lahat nagtry na po ako
Age: 31 - 30pts
Education History: Bachelor of Science in Computer Science Graduate 4yrs course ako - 10pts
Employment : 2002-2013 Employed po ako -10pts?

So far 40 pts pa lang

Wala pang Skills Assessment at IELTS

Di ko sure po kung iseselect ko ba ung Professional Year sa Skill Select

gmad06 · December 2013

@Betchay since computer science ka, you might want to check ur school sa rightmost tab sa taas..minsan kasi comparable siya sa OZ degree,minsan nman hindi..doon mo ma estimate ilang years ang kukunin nila sa experience mo.dnt worry may paraan nman lahat ng situation eh..baka yung IELTS nga ang makakatulong sayo

Betchay · December 2013

@gmad06 : Sir ito po nakuha ko dun sa taas

47 Philippine Christian University DASMARIÑAS, MANILA 1

gmad06 · December 2013

@gmad06 : Sir ito po nakuha ko dun sa taas

47 Philippine Christian University DASMARIÑAS, MANILA 1

so looking at the category you will know how many years ang kukunin nila from your working experience. they will state it anyway on your assessment results.

Betchay · December 2013

@gmad06 thanks sir gets ko na

thegreatiam15 · January 2014

mga bossing question lang...yung skills assessment ba para sa subclass 189

kasi iapply ko sa EOI is civil engineering draftsperson pero ang degree ko is architecture tama ba to? sa AACA parin ba ako mag skills assessment hindi sa civil engineering?

if ever ba na ilagay ko as both architects by profession sa AACA marerecognize kaya yung qualifications ko?...maraming salamat...

quesoboy · January 2014

Hi @gmad06,

Since you're on the topic of schools, what does the section number mean? I just referred to the list and found that my school is section 1. How does it play into your application?

Hope you can help me understand this.

Thanks!

appledeuce · January 2014

Hi @gmad06,

Since you're on the topic of schools, what does the section number mean? I just referred to the list and found that my school is section 1. How does it play into your application?

Hope you can help me understand this.

Thanks!

Hi @quesoboy,

The Australian government has Country Education Profiles where they basically, well, 'profile' (lol) or check an educational qualification acquired outside of Australia and determine its equivalent qualification in the Australian Qualification Framework based on a number of factors (quality of education, etc). For example, a bachelor degree obtained in the Philippines may not necessarily be considered as equivalent to a bachelor degree in Australia. That's where the sectioning of schools comes in. Schools in section 1 are considered the 'best' in terms of the quality of education, if you will, so if you obtain a bachelor degree in a Section 1 school, your qualification will normally be considered as a bachelor degree equivalent in Australian standards (AQF). If you are a Section 2 bachelor degree graduate, it's quite possible that your bachelor degree will only be considered a 'certificate', or less than a bachelor degree, or your 5-year bachelor degree will only be equivalent to a 4-year bachelor degree in Australia. Section 3 are usually up-and-coming or lesser-known schools who have yet to establish that they provide high quality education, I suppose.

Parang sa pera, since mataas ang value ng currency nila, yung medyo malaking halaga sa atin, is barya lang pagdating sa kanila. Sorry about the dumb analogy, but you get the comparison. Haha.

Now where does it play in our application? In points based general skilled migration assessments, you get points based on your qualification (20 for doctorate, 15 for bachelors/masters, 10 for Australian diploma equivalent). So if you have a bachelor degree from a Philippine college/uni, you will assume that you can claim 15 points. However, as explained (loosely) above, this may not always be the case, as it is possible that your bachelor degree may be only equivalent to an Australian diploma, in which case, you are only going to get 10 points.

Moreover, it may also be a factor for when you get your skills/work experience assessed by the relevant assessing body. For example:
- IT professional 1 has a 4-year bachelor degree in IT from a section 1 school, and has 5 years experience
- IT professional 2 has a 4-year bachelor degree in IT from a section 3 school and has 5 years experience

Pwedeng sabihin ni assessing body (ACS) na ITP1 can claim for 5 years of work experience, pero si ITP2 can only claim 3 years of work experience (I guess parang sinasabi nila yung other 2 years na work experience ni ITP2 is considered as years in school pa). In other words, ITP1's 4-year degree is equivalent to ITP2's 4-year degree PLUS 2 years of work experience, since mas mataas ang quality of education ng school ni ITP1.

Sorry, nagmamarunong lang.

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gmad06 · January 2014

Hi @gmad06,

Since you're on the topic of schools, what does the section number mean? I just referred to the list and found that my school is section 1. How does it play into your application?

Hope you can help me understand this.

Thanks!
Hi @quesoboy,

The Australian government has Country Education Profiles where they basically, well, 'profile' (lol) or check an educational qualification acquired outside of Australia and determine its equivalent qualification in the Australian Qualification Framework based on a number of factors (quality of education, etc). For example, a bachelor degree obtained in the Philippines may not necessarily be considered as equivalent to a bachelor degree in Australia. That's where the sectioning of schools comes in. Schools in section 1 are considered the 'best' in terms of the quality of education, if you will, so if you obtain a bachelor degree in a Section 1 school, your qualification will normally be considered as a bachelor degree equivalent in Australian standards (AQF). If you are a Section 2 bachelor degree graduate, it's quite possible that your bachelor degree will only be considered a 'certificate', or less than a bachelor degree, or your 5-year bachelor degree will only be equivalent to a 4-year bachelor degree in Australia. Section 3 are usually up-and-coming or lesser-known schools who have yet to establish that they provide high quality education, I suppose.

Parang sa pera, since mataas ang value ng currency nila, yung medyo malaking halaga sa atin, is barya lang pagdating sa kanila. Sorry about the dumb analogy, but you get the comparison. Haha.

Now where does it play in our application? In points based general skilled migration assessments, you get points based on your qualification (20 for doctorate, 15 for bachelors/masters, 10 for Australian diploma equivalent). So if you have a bachelor degree from a Philippine college/uni, you will assume that you can claim 15 points. However, as explained (loosely) above, this may not always be the case, as it is possible that your bachelor degree may be only equivalent to an Australian diploma, in which case, you are only going to get 10 points.

Moreover, it may also be a factor for when you get your skills/work experience assessed by the relevant assessing body. For example:
- IT professional 1 has a 4-year bachelor degree in IT from a section 1 school, and has 5 years experience
- IT professional 2 has a 4-year bachelor degree in IT from a section 3 school and has 5 years experience

Pwedeng sabihin ni assessing body (ACS) na ITP1 can claim for 5 years of work experience, pero si ITP2 can only claim 3 years of work experience (I guess parang sinasabi nila yung other 2 years na work experience ni ITP2 is considered as years in school pa). In other words, ITP1's 4-year degree is equivalent to ITP2's 4-year degree PLUS 2 years of work experience, since mas mataas ang quality of education ng school ni ITP1.

Sorry, nagmamarunong lang. )

@quesoboy sorry for the late reply, but I guess everything has been said by @appledeuce and I fully support her opinion above. Sa madaling salita, if you refer to the profile of your school based on OZ standards, you will be able to foresee what is most likely your outcome for skills and edu assessment. This affects your years of experience and the band you should aim for IELTS as well.

sana nakatulong kami...

quesoboy · January 2014

Haha wow, thanks for the comprehensive explanation, @appledeuce! I get it now.

Thanks din, @gmad06.

Both of you were helpful.

roxie_montejo · January 2014

hi to all,im an accounting graduate but not cpa.5 years and 5 months na and experience ko sa accounting..am i qualified to apply for skilled-independent visa?

roxie_montejo · January 2014

do i need to take IELTS before submiting an expression of interest?.ano passing grade pag accounting..tips naman dyan..mahirap ba?

roxie_montejo · January 2014

pwd makahingi ng review materials for IELTS..thank in advance.

TasBurrfoot · January 2014

hi to all,im an accounting graduate but not cpa.5 years and 5 months na and experience ko sa accounting..am i qualified to apply for skilled-independent visa?

There is a separate thread for accounting migrants somewhere in this forum but to indulge you with your first question; yes, pwedend pwede ka mag-apply kahit you are not a CPA in the Philippines. Useless naman ang CPA Philippines designation dito sa Australia so they are looking lang at what you have learned in school with respect to accountancy...

MSS · April 2014

Hi.just want to ask what would be the real requirement for ielts on a slilled migrant based on points system? I mean,they are requiring 7.0 on all band but my assessing body only requires 7.0 on overall (average band). Unfortunately i only got 5.5 on listening,does it mean i cant use my ielts report in points system though i can use it iny assessing body?do i need to retake it?

ten2six · April 2014

^ You need no band score lower than 6.0 to apply in 189 & 190 visas. But you will only get points if you have bands 7.0 and above. That means 10 points for no band score lower than 7.0 and 20 points for no band score lower than 8.0.

lallylim · May 2014

tama po ba na ang dependents functional english lang min 4.5 sa lahat ng bands pero sa primary applicant min 6 talaga? pls confirm.

sarah_lyn · July 2014

Hi! anyone who knows JROOZ Review Center in Makati? Pa-feedback nmn po kung ok don to review IELTS.. if you have other recommendations pahelp lang po para I can decide na.. Thanks a lot & God Bless us all!

sarah_lyn · July 2014

@TasBurrfoot Hi mgttnong lang po who knows JROOZ Review Center in Makati? Pa-feedback nmn po kung ok don to review IELTS.. if you have other recommendations pahelp lang po para I can decide na.. Thanks a lot & God Bless us all!

ehyni · July 2014

@sarah_lyn go for niners search mo na lang sa net kung saan

bumblebee · June 2015

Hi. My husband (software engineer) and I recently took the IELTS exam last May 30. He got an overall score of 6.5 (6.5 sya sa lahat ng exam) so that means he will be 0 pag dating sa online assessment. Tama po ba? Kase pag 7 up lang magkakaroon ng points. I got an overall score of 8. How much ang mabibigay na points pag ganun? Yung husband ko ang principal applicant.

MSS · June 2015

@bumblebee if your husband is the principal,dpat makakuha sya at least 7 on each subtest..as a dependent pasado ka na kc functional english lng ata need wc is equivalent to 5 ata...

MSS · June 2015

@bumblebee ano po ba profession mo at band each subtest..bka pwede ka principal applicant?

bumblebee · June 2015

i am a graphic & web designer. my scores are: L 9.0, R 8.0, W 7.0, S 7.5. Yun din inisip baka ako nalang ang magprincipal pero ung profession ko wala sa SOL pero nandun sya sa CSOL. which means i need to be nominated by territory o kya employer sponsored. Eh ang plan kase namin when we go there is si hubby ang mag work while i stay home to watch the kids.