186 ENS Visa Timeline

aanover

@atonibay said:
kailangan po ba ng agent pag mag lodge ng visa 186? hindi po ba pwd DIY nlang like sa mga visa 189 at 190? If anyone who have experience here please share nman.

yung 186 ko DIY lang. Yung nomination bit DIY din lang pero employer ko ang nag pasa.

atonibay

@aanover said:

@atonibay said:
kailangan po ba ng agent pag mag lodge ng visa 186? hindi po ba pwd DIY nlang like sa mga visa 189 at 190? If anyone who have experience here please share nman.

yung 186 ko DIY lang. Yung nomination bit DIY din lang pero employer ko ang nag pasa.

@aanover salamat sa info. Pwd pa share sa steps about sa nomination ng employer? Para meron din insights para pag dating ng panahon oh next year pwd ko ng kulitin yung amo ko na papalipat sa Oz.

aanover

@aanover salamat sa info. Pwd pa share sa steps about sa nomination ng employer? Para meron din insights para pag dating ng panahon oh next year pwd ko ng kulitin yung amo ko na papalipat sa Oz.

Hindi ko alam anong steps/documents para sa Nomination, binigay ko lamg yung link containing information nung need nilang gawin.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/employer-nomination-scheme-186/direct-entry-stream#HowTo ( select Personalise this page... For Sponsors)

AspiringEntrep

Happy New Year po sa ating lahat.
Mag i expire na po ang PTE exam ko this December 2020 and wala pa po ako invite till now.
Iniisip ko magrequest ng sponsorship sa employer ko (Australia based), i am offshore based Phils,
para apply po ng visa 186...pero wla po akong makitang link para mag gather ng more info:
unsure po kung qualified ako at ano po kaya ang magandang sabihin sa employer ko?

Thanks

aanover

@AspiringEntrep said:
Happy New Year po sa ating lahat.
Mag i expire na po ang PTE exam ko this December 2020 and wala pa po ako invite till now.
Iniisip ko magrequest ng sponsorship sa employer ko (Australia based), i am offshore based Phils,
para apply po ng visa 186...pero wla po akong makitang link para mag gather ng more info:
unsure po kung qualified ako at ano po kaya ang magandang sabihin sa employer ko?

Thanks

Have you checked;
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/employer-nomination-scheme-186/direct-entry-stream#About

meron toggle switch to personalize yung page for applicant and sponsor - sa upper right hand corner nung page. This will give you both applicant and sposnors information.

I moved from Manila to SYD office. Nagresearch muna ako if qualified ako i-sponsor. Then nung nagka-opening sa SYD office, jokingly I brought up the idea of applying. I told them that I had all the necessary assessments completed which will shorten the visa processing time and their onboarding process since I already know the job and what's expected of it. I was offered with work visa 457 nga lang instead of PR 186.

AspiringEntrep

@aanover Thanks po, binasa ko po ngayon both yung sponsor at applicant, ang worry ko ay baka hinde willing magbayad yung company ko ng cost to nominate...ano po kaya ang magandang sabihin ko please?Appreciate your inputs.

Btw family of 3 po kami at working ako offshore dito sa Pinas 5yrs na, Sydney based yung company at wla pang nasponsoran na offshore before...

aanover

@AspiringEntrep said:
@aanover Thanks po, binasa ko po ngayon both yung sponsor at applicant, ang worry ko ay baka hinde willing magbayad yung company ko ng cost to nominate...ano po kaya ang magandang sabihin ko please?Appreciate your inputs.

Btw family of 3 po kami at working ako offshore dito sa Pinas 5yrs na, Sydney based yung company at wla pang nasponsoran na offshore before...

yung mahiwagan tanong dyan, Is your company qualified to sponsor? If they haven't sponsored any one they need to apply to become a sponsor before they can nominate you. As side from the cost of sponsorship and nomination as the employer, they must also pay the Skilling Australians Fund (SAF) levy It really boils down kung gusto tlga gumastos ni Employer. If may shortage naman sa staff sa Syd office nyo wala namang mawawala kung i-oopen mo yung idea of movement.

All the best.

Mizai01

Hi, just would like to ask, if merong may similar experience sa inyo,pag newly wed (will be married by April 2020) ba nag-aask pa ng additional documents aside from marriage certificate?
Thank you.

jahOZ

hi @aanover, I understand na yung company mo offered you visa 457, paano ka naging 186?
My nahanap ako na employer in Queensland, pwede ko ba sila e ask for visa 186 or 482? san po kaya ang mas mabilis and processing. sa nganyon IELTS pa lang yung meron ako, wala pang VETASSES.
salamat

aanover

@jahOZ said:
hi @aanover, I understand na yung company mo offered you visa 457, paano ka naging 186?
My nahanap ako na employer in Queensland, pwede ko ba sila e ask for visa 186 or 482? san po kaya ang mas mabilis and processing. sa nganyon IELTS pa lang yung meron ako, wala pang VETASSES.
salamat

A year after ng 457 visa ko, I asked my employer if they can continue sponsoring me as PR and I was lucky that they said yes to the idea but I had to pay for my 186 Visa fee.

aanover

@jahOZ said:
hi @aanover, I understand na yung company mo offered you visa 457, paano ka naging 186?
My nahanap ako na employer in Queensland, pwede ko ba sila e ask for visa 186 or 482? san po kaya ang mas mabilis and processing. sa nganyon IELTS pa lang yung meron ako, wala pang VETASSES.
salamat

Pinakamabilis ang 482, however that's just temporary. It is important for you to check if your occupation has PR pathway after 482. I have friends who have transitioned from 457 to 482 and been here for 6 years, arrived even before me. Sadly, during the transition, their occupation falls under Short-term stream which doesn't have PR pathway so until now temporary sila and are having a hard time getting their PRs.

Before you have your skills assessed, check your occupation from the SOL and see if your employer can sponsor you. If they sponsor you with 482, some occupation doesn't require skills assessment for 482 or they might get an immigration agent to do this for you.

jahOZ

@aanover salamat mam, my occupation 342313 is under Medium-term stream. pag visa 482 and e-apply ng employer hindi ko na kailangan ng skills assessment. tama po ba?

aanover

@jahOZ said:
@aanover salamat mam, my occupation 342313 is under Medium-term stream. pag visa 482 and e-apply ng employer hindi ko na kailangan ng skills assessment. tama po ba?

From the register sir, wala yung occupation nyo sa required mag pa skills assessment for 482 visa. TRA po ang accessing body nyo in case you require one.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2018L00294/Controls/

jahOZ

@aanover salamat po. sana ma process n ng employer ko.

bizzy

Hi po. May question ako regarding 186. Yung employer ko, sponsoran ako. Ang option ay 482 at 186. Ok sana 186, kaso sabi ng agent na kinuha ng employer ko, ok na number of experience ko pero sa anmac ko ay na assessed ako as RN surgical. Dapat daw sana RN aged care pra pasok ako sa 186. True po ba yun? Hoping pa rin ako khit Hndi Aged Care previous experience ko, sponsoran pa rin ako ng 186.

aanover

@bizzy said:
Hi po. May question ako regarding 186. Yung employer ko, sponsoran ako. Ang option ay 482 at 186. Ok sana 186, kaso sabi ng agent na kinuha ng employer ko, ok na number of experience ko pero sa anmac ko ay na assessed ako as RN surgical. Dapat daw sana RN aged care pra pasok ako sa 186. True po ba yun? Hoping pa rin ako khit Hndi Aged Care previous experience ko, sponsoran pa rin ako ng 186.

I just checked SOL (https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list)
both RN surgical and aged care pwede sa 186, so not sure bakit dika pwede isponsor ng 186.

cucci

@aanover said:

@bizzy said:
Hi po. May question ako regarding 186. Yung employer ko, sponsoran ako. Ang option ay 482 at 186. Ok sana 186, kaso sabi ng agent na kinuha ng employer ko, ok na number of experience ko pero sa anmac ko ay na assessed ako as RN surgical. Dapat daw sana RN aged care pra pasok ako sa 186. True po ba yun? Hoping pa rin ako khit Hndi Aged Care previous experience ko, sponsoran pa rin ako ng 186.

I just checked SOL (https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list)
both RN surgical and aged care pwede sa 186, so not sure bakit dika pwede isponsor ng 186.

Ang pagkakaintindi ko pwedeng ma-deny ang sponsorship kung halimbawa Aged Care facility mag-sponsor ng surgical nurse kasi kahit parehong RN magkaiba/magkalayo ang specialization. Kung hospital walang problema. Specialized kasi ang Aged Care dito at may mga bagong regulations dahil sa cases ng abuse sa mga pasyente.

bizzy

@cucci I see. Medyo naliwanagan na ako. Yun Sbi ng agent, 482 lng pwde na ipush na visa sa akin at Hndi 186. Thanks so much.

@aanover aged care kc mag ssponsor sa akin Kya d pasok ang RN surgical experience ko for 186 Sbi ng agent. Bgo lng din ako sa Aged Care, 4 months pa lng then ngdecide sila sponsoran ako. Thanks sa reply.

renan1980

Hello po. Sa current trend po ngayon. How long po ma-received ng employer your nomination after na ma-lodge ung application? Meron po kyong idea nowadays or meron po bang recently na nabigyan ang kanyang employer ng nomination?

Salamat po..

aanover

@renan1980 said:
Hello po. Sa current trend po ngayon. How long po ma-received ng employer your nomination after na ma-lodge ung application? Meron po kyong idea nowadays or meron po bang recently na nabigyan ang kanyang employer ng nomination?

Salamat po..

some timeline from another forum;

Stream: 186 TRT from 457 (before 18th April 2017)
Applicants: 1
Nomination Lodged: 13th Sept 2019
Visa Lodged: 13th Sept 2019
Nomination Approved: 30th Jan 2020

Visa Granted: 17th March 2020

Stream: 457 -> 186 TRT (3.5 years on 457)
Applicants: 1
Nomination and Visa Applied: 17th Feb 2020
Nomination approved: - 🎉🍾 18th March 2020 🎉🍾

Visa approved: - 🎉🍾 18th March 2020 🎉🍾

Stream: 186 DE
Number of applicants: 2 (de facto partner)
Nomination applied: 4 June 2019

Nomination approved: 18 October 2019

Visa: 186 DE
Occupation: Software Engineer 261313
Nomination and Visa applied: 31Jan 2020
Nomination approved: 4th March 2020

misty

Good PM po!
Baka may same case po.plan ko nalang po mag DIY medyo mabigat po yung agent fee almost $7000 po visa fee naming family. Medyo kinakabahan lang po ako sa IELTS college undergraduate 2nd year (1sem) natapos ko.
Baka meron po kayung requirements for 186 visa cabinet maker

• 5yrs experience in Saudi Arabia - cabinet maker
• 4yrs experienced cabinet maker (1st employer in australia applied PR But nomination refused due to.employer case) moved On
• 2yrs experienced cabinet maker to current employer in Melbourne who is willing to sponsor for PR ( 457visa till 2022)
• No IELTS ( ongoing study)
• No Trades certificate
• wife (college Graduate Bachelor Degree in Philippines)
  Baka meron po kayung list ng requirement or any Advice what should I applied para hndi po matulad sa unang application namin.
  Maraming Salamat po. GOD BLESS

cucci

@misty said:
Good PM po!
Baka may same case po.plan ko nalang po mag DIY medyo mabigat po yung agent fee almost $7000 po visa fee naming family. Medyo kinakabahan lang po ako sa IELTS college undergraduate 2nd year (1sem) natapos ko.
Baka meron po kayung requirements for 186 visa cabinet maker

• 5yrs experience in Saudi Arabia - cabinet maker
• 4yrs experienced cabinet maker (1st employer in australia applied PR But nomination refused due to.employer case) moved On
• 2yrs experienced cabinet maker to current employer in Melbourneth who is willing to sponsor for PR ( 457visa till 2022)
• No IELTS ( ongoing study)
• No Trades certificate
• wife (college Graduate Bachelor Degree in Philippines)
  Baka meron po kayung list ng requirement or any Advice what should I applied para hndi po matulad sa unang application namin.
  Maraming Salamat po. GOD BLESS

I am not well-versed with the specific requirement for your industry, however, I would just reiterate that there are 2 steps for the 186 ENS visa. First is the employer nomination part, wherein the employer has to comply with the requirements to be an approved sponsor.
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/employer-nomination-scheme-186/temporary-residence-transition-stream#HowTo
You did not elaborate on the instance of the employer case with your first employer but I would reckon to guess that they were not an approved sponsor. Being an approved sponsor is technically out of your league because the employer has to provide documents to justify being a sponsor plus pay a fee between 3,000 - 5000 AUD to the Skilling Australia Fund. Your employer must also publish the job opportunity to prove that no Australian can fill the job requirement.
Those have to be complied with prior to even you considering your requirements. In many cases, the employer will hire an agent to do the job, unless the employer expects you to handle even the supposed to be employer part of the process.

misty

@cucci, thank you so much sa message worried lang ako kung hindi ko makuha ang 6 sa IELTS, Baka hndi ako pwede sa 186. But im trying my best para makuha ung score na need ko. Kailangan lang ng advice if ever ano anong Visa kaya ang option para sakin kung hindi ako maka 6 sa IELTS. Medyo may trauma pa from last applied ko ng PR Medyo malaki nagastos dun. Yung dati Kong employer nag insist na un ang kunin namin agent kasi related sa company,yun pala may ilang case yung employer namin sa immigration kaya" employer nomination refused" Non Refundable.
Mabait ang employer ko ngayun at willing siya mag sponsor ng PR. Salamat sa thread na eto basa basa ako at marami akong nakuhang idea.
GOD BLESS

cucci

@misty If you have been working in your occupation for a certain number of years, I would presume that you can avail of recognized prior learning (RPL) to get TRA certification and may not be required English/IELTS anymore... not sure of this though.
Having worked via 457, you may be better off with the TRT scheme rather than DE stream of the 186 visa.
There are pros and cons so if you really intend to do DIY, read through the differences and weigh down the pros and cons.

misty

@cucci,thank you so much for your reply. I already talk to skill Certified Australia regarding the RPL. It's a little bit expensive procedure but they will assure me the certificate for 6weeks since I already have the experience. But they cannot guarantee me if I can used it for permanent resident applications. I believe the best pathway for me is the 186 I just need to help myself about the english exam. My confident about the IELTS exam is below minimum hehehehe I try the practice exam and always get less than 10points both listening and reading..Thank you so much for your advice cheers

SAP_Consultant

@misty English can be learnt, mate! Confidence is the key! Equip yourself with English skills and you can even ace the IELTS. Watch YouTube videos, heaps of materials available in the internet. All the best!

mayhuiso

@misty you may want to try PTE academic exam if you're not that confident with IELTS. It's relatively easier since we have lots of tips here.

Bi27

Hi.. 457 visa po ako and ung company ko mag ssponsor sakin ng 186 DE. Chef po ako pero iniintay ko din TRA ko kakapasa ko lng. July na maeexpired visa namin dto at san umabot hehe. if ever po ba ma nominate at malodge na ung visa, that's the time na mag kaka bridging visa A na? thank you po. Sana mabilis lng processing ng onshore kahit my crisis no. Keep safe everyone.

cucci

@Bi27 said:
Hi.. 457 visa po ako and ung company ko mag ssponsor sakin ng 186 DE. Chef po ako pero iniintay ko din TRA ko kakapasa ko lng. July na maeexpired visa namin dto at san umabot hehe. if ever po ba ma nominate at malodge na ung visa, that's the time na mag kaka bridging visa A na? thank you po. Sana mabilis lng processing ng onshore kahit my crisis no. Keep safe everyone.

Once you lodge visa application you will be granted bridging visa which will take effect once your current visa expires and no decision has been made regarding your application.

Bi27

@cucci said:

@Bi27 said:
Hi.. 457 visa po ako and ung company ko mag ssponsor sakin ng 186 DE. Chef po ako pero iniintay ko din TRA ko kakapasa ko lng. July na maeexpired visa namin dto at san umabot hehe. if ever po ba ma nominate at malodge na ung visa, that's the time na mag kaka bridging visa A na? thank you po. Sana mabilis lng processing ng onshore kahit my crisis no. Keep safe everyone.

Once you lodge visa application you will be granted bridging visa which will take effect once your current visa expires and no decision has been made regarding your application.

Ok po. Thank you.