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Joined: Nov 20, 2020
Hi @stihlce12. Thank you for your comment. Yeah I think that's what's confusing kasi broad ang range ng civil engineer. If I just have to look sa general role description of professional engineer sa MSA, I think pasok naman but if I have to look at ANZSCO medyo nagdoubt ako kasi "plans, designs, organises and oversees" not sure where does tender/bid process fall on that. But will try to associate that experience sa professional engineer competency elements. Otherwise, I have to think another career episode.
Posts: 229Member
Joined: Oct 28, 2020
then could be fine. I saw sample in the internet a QS CDR
Hi Bella, no problem the least that i could help. base din d2 sa thread n to just stick on MSA Booklet, nka describe nmn don how u should demonstrate your competency. somehow, per our experiences it could be correlate. mag DIY kaba? Me, already drafted the content of my CDR inihimay himay ko pa..
Occupation: 23321 Civil Engineer (Offshore Applicant)
Points: SC189-75/SC190-80 (VIC & NSW)
28 March 2023: Heal Assessment-Health Clearance Provided
25 March 2023: Medical Exam Done
17 March 2023: Visa Lodge SC 190
02 March 2023: Received Nomination Approval NSW and ITA from DOHA
15 Feb 2023: Received Pre-invitation from NSW
11 Dec 2022: Submitted EOI for SC 190 NSW & VIC and SC 189
15 Nov 2022: Received Skill Assessment From Engr Aus-Prof Eng
10 Oct 2022: Submitted Standard CDR to Engr Aus for Skill Assessment
09 May 2022: PTE Exam Result Proficient Score
Joined: Nov 20, 2020
@stihlce12 I have an agent pero I'm still considering anong okay na career episode and ilalagay ko. Drafting the first part is the hardest. Good luck to your EA skill assessment!
Joined: Sep 25, 2020
My suggestion on creating a CDR is, pick projects that will showcase engineering competencies based on the MSA guidelines for PEs, EAs, and ETs. You then align what you did in those projects to your ANZSCO occupation. Some occupations might be broad, but the general idea is, if the primary role or occupation that you are demonstrating in your CDR fits how ANZSCO described it, doesn't matter if you tick one or two or all of how the occupation is described. As long as the engineering competencies are filled in the CDR according to the MSA and the some (not all) description of that occupation in ANZSCO is met, then you should be okay.
Don't use CDR writing services. The risk is far greater than the reward.
133512 offshore | 190 - 80 pts | Age - 25 | English - 20 | Qualifications - 15 | State - 5 | Partner - 10 | CCL - 5
233513 offshore | 189 - 85 pts | 190 - 90 | 491 - 100 | Age - 25 | English - 20 | Qualifications - 15 | Work Experience (outside) - 10 | State - 5/15 | Partner - 10 | CCL - 5
15.08.20 - started researching. identified which ANZSCO occupation I should have assessed
22.08.20 - consultation with VETASSESS consultant on my nominated ANZSCO occupation
01.09.20 - took IELTS test
07.09.20 - results came out, proficient only
07.09.20 - submitted 133512 assessment requirements to VETASSESS
08.09.20 - started drafting CDR for EA assessment for 233511
18.09.20 - positive outcome of VETASSESS assessment (although most of my work experience was not credited)
24.09.20 - took PTE. superior outcome
01.10.20 - submitted application to EA for 233511
07.10.20 - submitted application to ACS for partner's skills assessment
13.10.20 - received positive outcome from EA for 233513
17.10.20 - partner's english test. PTE proficient
17.10.20 - EOI lodged. 133512 - 190 @ 70 pts
17.10.20 - EOI lodged. 233513 - 189 @ 75 pts, 190 @ 80 pts
11.10.20 - positive outcome for partner's skills assessment +5 points. 189 and 190 for 233513 increased to 80 and 85, respectively
24.11.20 - CCL test
01.12.20 - passed CCL test. 189 and 190 @ 85 & 90 pts, respectively, for 233513. 190 @ 75pts for 133512
03.11.21 - ROI submitted to SA. 491 @ 100 pts for 233513
25.11.21 - ITA SA ROI. submitted application
26.11.21 - SA ROI approved. EOI ITA issued
24.12.21 - lodged 491 invite for SA. waiting for character reference from SG. health exam notice issued by immi.
15.01.22 - uploaded SG character reference, updated medical
08.02.22 - received 190 NSW invite for 133512
18.02.22 - lodged 190 invite for NSW.
10.05.22 - granted 190 NSW. no CO contact.
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
You’re definitely in the right track. ANZSCO myst be used as reference. Cannot stress enough to not use writing services. It’s your career and work experience which no one else can know better than yourself. To be honest we’ve never assisted clients with the content of their CDR as engineering is not our scope of expertise. Also, we encourage clients to write and use their own words as it is unethical for us to do this for them - that’s altering data on their behalf. What we do is we guide them on the technical side, if it meets the format and requirements. I’ve always believe that if one is able to obtain an engineering degree, one is capable to write the CDR. We have been using such approach since day 1 and we’ve not so far had negative outcome on skills assessments for EA. This goes to show, there is definitely no need to hire any writing services.
Joined: Nov 20, 2020
Sorry @stihlce12 , just want to clarify, were you talking about an agent to check on your CDR? What I meant of agent is the agent to assist me in whole application process from EOI to lodging the visa application (if invited). For my CDR, I will do everything by myself and I guess part of my agent's job is to check all the documents I'll submit for my EOI and that includes my CDR...to give advice, perhaps. But not sure if there's an agent who could only do the checking of CDR.
Posts: 229Member
Joined: Oct 28, 2020
Hi Rhea, you said that "we guided on technical side if it meets to format and requirements" these service is within package from the whole migration consultancy? no such thing exclusive service for checking only the CDR or assisting client for EA skill assessment?
Occupation: 23321 Civil Engineer (Offshore Applicant)
Points: SC189-75/SC190-80 (VIC & NSW)
28 March 2023: Heal Assessment-Health Clearance Provided
25 March 2023: Medical Exam Done
17 March 2023: Visa Lodge SC 190
02 March 2023: Received Nomination Approval NSW and ITA from DOHA
15 Feb 2023: Received Pre-invitation from NSW
11 Dec 2022: Submitted EOI for SC 190 NSW & VIC and SC 189
15 Nov 2022: Received Skill Assessment From Engr Aus-Prof Eng
10 Oct 2022: Submitted Standard CDR to Engr Aus for Skill Assessment
09 May 2022: PTE Exam Result Proficient Score
Joined: Nov 21, 2020
Ngayon ko lang nalaman may ganitong forum pala. Medyo nakakapagod din magbasa sa dami pero worth it. Haha. I plan to submit my documents sa EA for assessment. Hinihintay ko nalang yun delivery ng English translation ng diploma ko at need ko pa rin magrequest ng COE sa employer ko. Isa lang employer ko kasi dun na ko na-hire after graduation. Okay lang ba yun COE eh standard format ng company? I tried kasi to draft yun content ng COE (with chronological listing ng mga projects I worked on and inilagay ko rin yun specific na ginawa) at yun sana yun gusto kong ipasa para mag-match din sa CDR ko.
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
That’s the actual skills assessment assistance. If you’re expecting an agent or staff to write your CDR, definitely not something we do. We guide them to make sure they meet all the requirements and submit a decision ready application. Don’t expect any agent to be all of a sudden knowledgeable with the engineering side of things - you’ll never find one. No agent can ever check the content of your CDR. That’s your expertise. Just to be clear, CDR isn’t the skills assessment, that’s only part of the skills assessment.
What happens is if client sends us their CDR, we will browse through it. I read through it. There are occasions when I read very vague statements so I just tell the client to expound on what he/she’s trying to say on that section to address the requirement. Also, if I think the client didn’t address what was required, I will provide my feedback. That’s the most we can do. I cannot tell the client what exactly he/she should write in there. I’m not exactly sure what you expect when you refer to “checking the CDR”
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Make sure to submit an employment reference letter and not a COE. As per the guideline, EA isn’t asking for a COE at all but an employment reference letter. Make sure you know the difference.
Joined: Nov 21, 2020
OMG! Talaga po ba? Sige po. Thank thank you sa information na to.
Joined: Dec 04, 2018
Ano po ba nakalagay sa outcome letter ng engineers australia?
Joined: Sep 25, 2020
133512 offshore | 190 - 80 pts | Age - 25 | English - 20 | Qualifications - 15 | State - 5 | Partner - 10 | CCL - 5
233513 offshore | 189 - 85 pts | 190 - 90 | 491 - 100 | Age - 25 | English - 20 | Qualifications - 15 | Work Experience (outside) - 10 | State - 5/15 | Partner - 10 | CCL - 5
15.08.20 - started researching. identified which ANZSCO occupation I should have assessed
22.08.20 - consultation with VETASSESS consultant on my nominated ANZSCO occupation
01.09.20 - took IELTS test
07.09.20 - results came out, proficient only
07.09.20 - submitted 133512 assessment requirements to VETASSESS
08.09.20 - started drafting CDR for EA assessment for 233511
18.09.20 - positive outcome of VETASSESS assessment (although most of my work experience was not credited)
24.09.20 - took PTE. superior outcome
01.10.20 - submitted application to EA for 233511
07.10.20 - submitted application to ACS for partner's skills assessment
13.10.20 - received positive outcome from EA for 233513
17.10.20 - partner's english test. PTE proficient
17.10.20 - EOI lodged. 133512 - 190 @ 70 pts
17.10.20 - EOI lodged. 233513 - 189 @ 75 pts, 190 @ 80 pts
11.10.20 - positive outcome for partner's skills assessment +5 points. 189 and 190 for 233513 increased to 80 and 85, respectively
24.11.20 - CCL test
01.12.20 - passed CCL test. 189 and 190 @ 85 & 90 pts, respectively, for 233513. 190 @ 75pts for 133512
03.11.21 - ROI submitted to SA. 491 @ 100 pts for 233513
25.11.21 - ITA SA ROI. submitted application
26.11.21 - SA ROI approved. EOI ITA issued
24.12.21 - lodged 491 invite for SA. waiting for character reference from SG. health exam notice issued by immi.
15.01.22 - uploaded SG character reference, updated medical
08.02.22 - received 190 NSW invite for 133512
18.02.22 - lodged 190 invite for NSW.
10.05.22 - granted 190 NSW. no CO contact.
Joined: Dec 04, 2018
Thanks sir. Bale yung total years of exp po ba dun madedetermine yung points na aaward sayo? Meron kasi akong 2 years na wala akong makuhang proof. Ayaw akong bigyan ng employment letter haha.
Joined: Sep 25, 2020
yes. so whatever you had assessed by EA, yun yung claim mo sa EOI mo boss. if you are not able to have those years assessed, no go.
133512 offshore | 190 - 80 pts | Age - 25 | English - 20 | Qualifications - 15 | State - 5 | Partner - 10 | CCL - 5
233513 offshore | 189 - 85 pts | 190 - 90 | 491 - 100 | Age - 25 | English - 20 | Qualifications - 15 | Work Experience (outside) - 10 | State - 5/15 | Partner - 10 | CCL - 5
15.08.20 - started researching. identified which ANZSCO occupation I should have assessed
22.08.20 - consultation with VETASSESS consultant on my nominated ANZSCO occupation
01.09.20 - took IELTS test
07.09.20 - results came out, proficient only
07.09.20 - submitted 133512 assessment requirements to VETASSESS
08.09.20 - started drafting CDR for EA assessment for 233511
18.09.20 - positive outcome of VETASSESS assessment (although most of my work experience was not credited)
24.09.20 - took PTE. superior outcome
01.10.20 - submitted application to EA for 233511
07.10.20 - submitted application to ACS for partner's skills assessment
13.10.20 - received positive outcome from EA for 233513
17.10.20 - partner's english test. PTE proficient
17.10.20 - EOI lodged. 133512 - 190 @ 70 pts
17.10.20 - EOI lodged. 233513 - 189 @ 75 pts, 190 @ 80 pts
11.10.20 - positive outcome for partner's skills assessment +5 points. 189 and 190 for 233513 increased to 80 and 85, respectively
24.11.20 - CCL test
01.12.20 - passed CCL test. 189 and 190 @ 85 & 90 pts, respectively, for 233513. 190 @ 75pts for 133512
03.11.21 - ROI submitted to SA. 491 @ 100 pts for 233513
25.11.21 - ITA SA ROI. submitted application
26.11.21 - SA ROI approved. EOI ITA issued
24.12.21 - lodged 491 invite for SA. waiting for character reference from SG. health exam notice issued by immi.
15.01.22 - uploaded SG character reference, updated medical
08.02.22 - received 190 NSW invite for 133512
18.02.22 - lodged 190 invite for NSW.
10.05.22 - granted 190 NSW. no CO contact.
Joined: Dec 04, 2018
Sir, additional question lang, nag email kasi ako sa EA mismo asking about sa missing employment letter. Ang sabi sakin is send lang lahat ng alam kong related sa work exp ko tapos yung assessor na bahala. Based sa letter sau sir meron mga dates na di naconsider sayo. May nakuha ka bang chance to defend yung mga exp mo na yun?
Joined: Sep 25, 2020
i'm sure they will give you a "chance to defend", but they will only go on with the information you send them. If you don't have a reference letter from your employment or unable to get one, based from the MSA booklet of EA, it would be challenging for you to prove you were employed by employers who will not give you a reference letter.
133512 offshore | 190 - 80 pts | Age - 25 | English - 20 | Qualifications - 15 | State - 5 | Partner - 10 | CCL - 5
233513 offshore | 189 - 85 pts | 190 - 90 | 491 - 100 | Age - 25 | English - 20 | Qualifications - 15 | Work Experience (outside) - 10 | State - 5/15 | Partner - 10 | CCL - 5
15.08.20 - started researching. identified which ANZSCO occupation I should have assessed
22.08.20 - consultation with VETASSESS consultant on my nominated ANZSCO occupation
01.09.20 - took IELTS test
07.09.20 - results came out, proficient only
07.09.20 - submitted 133512 assessment requirements to VETASSESS
08.09.20 - started drafting CDR for EA assessment for 233511
18.09.20 - positive outcome of VETASSESS assessment (although most of my work experience was not credited)
24.09.20 - took PTE. superior outcome
01.10.20 - submitted application to EA for 233511
07.10.20 - submitted application to ACS for partner's skills assessment
13.10.20 - received positive outcome from EA for 233513
17.10.20 - partner's english test. PTE proficient
17.10.20 - EOI lodged. 133512 - 190 @ 70 pts
17.10.20 - EOI lodged. 233513 - 189 @ 75 pts, 190 @ 80 pts
11.10.20 - positive outcome for partner's skills assessment +5 points. 189 and 190 for 233513 increased to 80 and 85, respectively
24.11.20 - CCL test
01.12.20 - passed CCL test. 189 and 190 @ 85 & 90 pts, respectively, for 233513. 190 @ 75pts for 133512
03.11.21 - ROI submitted to SA. 491 @ 100 pts for 233513
25.11.21 - ITA SA ROI. submitted application
26.11.21 - SA ROI approved. EOI ITA issued
24.12.21 - lodged 491 invite for SA. waiting for character reference from SG. health exam notice issued by immi.
15.01.22 - uploaded SG character reference, updated medical
08.02.22 - received 190 NSW invite for 133512
18.02.22 - lodged 190 invite for NSW.
10.05.22 - granted 190 NSW. no CO contact.
Joined: Dec 04, 2018
Meron po akong complete bank records ng mga sahod ko sa company na yun. Would that suffice? hehe. Sa tax forms naman kulang ng isang taon. Hays dadamot kasi ng mga company pag mga ganyan na paperworks.
Joined: Dec 12, 2019
Hi po. Pwede po humingi ng sample ng cv na inaattach sa EA? Please. 🙏🙏🙏 eto po email ko. 😊[email protected]
Joined: Dec 12, 2019
Hi po. May nakaview na po ng philhealth contributions nila sa website ng philhealth lately? Downloadable po ba yun? Di ko maopen yung akin ang sabi under maintenance daw.
Joined: Dec 12, 2019
Hi. May member po ba ng PICE dito? Nakakakuha po ba ng membership certificate?
Posts: 567Member
Joined: Mar 09, 2018
Kuha ka sa BIR. Importante ang third party evidence ( government agency)/ kaysa 2nd party evidence (company).
19/04/2011 IELTS Competent L:7.0, R: 7.5, W: 6.0, S: 6.0, OBS: 6.5
27/03/2018 PTE Proficient L:73, R: 70, W: 73, S: 78, OBS: 71
07/07/2018 Received Passport (10 years expiry)
08/08/2018 Received Driver's Licence 5 years
09/10/2018 0600H EA Queued for Assessment
29/10/2018 0530H Assessment in Progress
29/10/2018 1200H Outcome Received (Positive)
16/11/2019 1326H EOI Lodged 491 Family Sponsored 90 pts.
28/11/2019 NBI Application. (HIT)
09/12/2019 NBI Clearance Claimed at NBI Ermita for Faster processing
09/01/2020 2100H ITA 491
14/01/2020 Received Sponsorship Documents
20/01/2020 Payroll Statement of Account
27/01/2020 E medical at Nationwide Baguio
28/01/2020 E medical No Action Required. Nationwide Submitted to DHA
29/01/2020 Received Current Payslip
02/02/2020 SSS Inquiry System
07/02/2020 Reference Letter Current
07/02/2020 Provident Fund Update
10/02/2020 Polio Vaccination Certificate
12/02/2020 BIR Form 2316 updated to 2019
15/02/2020 Lodgment of Visa. Frontloaded all Docs including Form 80, 1221, 1281, medicals as per guidelines
18/02/2020 Form 1023
07/05/2020 CO allocated
27/10/2020 Direct Grant. No CO Contact.
19/05/2022 The Big Move
Posts: 567Member
Joined: Mar 09, 2018
1.PRIMARY DOCUMENTSReference letter on official company letterhead to:Indicate 5 main duties undertaken, job title or position;Indicate the exact period of employment (commencement and completion dates);Be endorsed and dated by the manager/direct supervisor/HR Section (with official telephone & email address);Indicate full or part-time with number of work hours;Pay rate;Include the company’s stamp if applicable
.2.SECONDARY DOCUMENTS
Income Tax Return Acknowledgement or Receipt; and/or
Social Security Insurance
/ Superfund/
Provident Fund
/ Retirement Contribution Statement Reports
Provide them: ITR Form 2316 complete, SSS Contributions, HDMF (Pag-ibig)
Madali lang naman ito. Yung mahirap yung reference letter, na ikaw na mismong gagawa and papirmahin mo sa boss mo.
19/04/2011 IELTS Competent L:7.0, R: 7.5, W: 6.0, S: 6.0, OBS: 6.5
27/03/2018 PTE Proficient L:73, R: 70, W: 73, S: 78, OBS: 71
07/07/2018 Received Passport (10 years expiry)
08/08/2018 Received Driver's Licence 5 years
09/10/2018 0600H EA Queued for Assessment
29/10/2018 0530H Assessment in Progress
29/10/2018 1200H Outcome Received (Positive)
16/11/2019 1326H EOI Lodged 491 Family Sponsored 90 pts.
28/11/2019 NBI Application. (HIT)
09/12/2019 NBI Clearance Claimed at NBI Ermita for Faster processing
09/01/2020 2100H ITA 491
14/01/2020 Received Sponsorship Documents
20/01/2020 Payroll Statement of Account
27/01/2020 E medical at Nationwide Baguio
28/01/2020 E medical No Action Required. Nationwide Submitted to DHA
29/01/2020 Received Current Payslip
02/02/2020 SSS Inquiry System
07/02/2020 Reference Letter Current
07/02/2020 Provident Fund Update
10/02/2020 Polio Vaccination Certificate
12/02/2020 BIR Form 2316 updated to 2019
15/02/2020 Lodgment of Visa. Frontloaded all Docs including Form 80, 1221, 1281, medicals as per guidelines
18/02/2020 Form 1023
07/05/2020 CO allocated
27/10/2020 Direct Grant. No CO Contact.
19/05/2022 The Big Move
Joined: Dec 12, 2019
Hi. Medyo confused lang po dito. Ang pinaprepare po kasi ng agent ko ay standard coe in company letterhead signed by HR plus affidavit with detailed job description, payrate, duration, employment status, working hrs, signed by my immediate supervisor. Ok lang po ba yun?
Posts: 397Member
Joined: Jun 16, 2016
follow mo lang po format na to...
https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/sites/default/files/content-files/2016-12/chronological_resume.pdf
233411: Electronics Engineer
20 Aug'16: IELTS (BC-SG)
2 Sep'16: IELTS Results: L8.5 R7 W6.5 S6.5 - saklap
7 Sep'16: Lodged EA Assessment
23 Sep'16: EA Positive Outcome
25 Oct'16: PTE-A Results: L:80 R:83 W:86 S:84 - Thank you God!!!!!
25 Oct'16: Lodged 189 Visa (75 pts)
26 Oct'16: Received ITA for 189 - Thank you God!!!!
21 Nov'16: 189 Visa Lodged!
23 Nov'16: Uploaded all Docs
28 Nov'16: Direct Grant! ... THANK YOU LORD!!!!!!!!!!
25 Jun'17 - BIG MOVE
4 Sep'17 - Started working
Great things start from small beginnings... - MILO
29 Jun'21: Applied for Au Citizenship
04 Mar'22: Interview and Exam Date (re-sched due to Covid isolation)
04 May'22: Interview and Exam Date (actual)
04 May'22: Citizenship by Conferral Approval
02 Jul'22: Oath Taking Ceremony .... Aussie aussie aussie, oi oi oi
Joined: Dec 12, 2019
Thank you po. 🙂
Joined: Jul 28, 2020
good day community I would like to ask for help. I am looking for a reference CDR for Production engineer, this would really help me a lot . my email is [email protected]. thank you and have a good day
Joined: Dec 12, 2019
Hello po. How much po bayad kay EA pag fast track po? Cdr and rsea.
Joined: Jul 28, 2020
hello po mga ka EE i would like to ask for your help and opinion, I am working as a Production Engineer for an Electrical Panel Manufacturing company here in the Philippines I am wondering which ANZCO code will I base my CDR if its for the Electrical Engineer (supervises the manufacture, installation, operation and maintenance of equipment, machines and systems for the generation, distribution, utilisation and control of electric power) or the Production Engineer ( which also covers the description o my present work). Which would be better and will have the better outcome
Joined: Dec 04, 2018
gaano po katagal yung assessment ng EA?