Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

RheaMARN1171933

@zekemadr said:
ipapasok na daw Civil Engineer sa PMSOL. Kelan kaya ito? Kasama ba offshore applicants dito?

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Migration/SkilledMigrationProgram/Report/section?id=committees/reportjnt/024650/76064

@zekemadr said:
ipapasok na daw Civil Engineer sa PMSOL. Kelan kaya ito? Kasama ba offshore applicants dito?

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Migration/SkilledMigrationProgram/Report/section?id=committees/reportjnt/024650/76064

There is a push to include it. Nothing official as yet...and yes! Offshore applicants can be prioritised as long as it’s on the PMSOL. Hence, all the more reason to get things moving, be document ready, exhaust all possible ways to increase points and get on the EOI ASAP!

aicu0_0

Hello po,

Newbie here, hihingi po sana akong references for CDR ng Civil Engineer.
Mas okay po sana if in BIM category.

Kindly email me at [email protected]

Thanks po!

nrekram

@rogerjr said:

@John316 said:

@rogerjr said:
My assessment came out today, sad to see they only gave me qualification as engineering technologist instead of professional engineer (electrical). Mahihirapan po kaya mapili for EOI neto?

Kailan po kayo naglodge ng application niyo @rogerjr ?
Just wondering kung gaanot katagal ang release ng results nowadays

Feb 26, nakafast track po ako then March 15 humingi ng additional docs yung EA then nasubmit ko March 26.

Hi, ano usually ang hinihingi na additional documents? Pano if di na provide, ma reject application kaya?

Balak ko na mag lodge within this april 2nd week, nasa abroad pa namn aq, di maka byahe if ever my additional na hihingin.

BabyNJ

hello po hingi lang po ako ng advice kong saan ako magpapa assess BS electrical Engineering po tinapos ko pero nasa technician lang ang mga position ng mga COE ko currently nasa middle east po ako ngayon starting to gather the data and information sa forum na ito. nag ipo po talaga ako para makarating ng AU kong loloobin ng dioyos maraming salamat po sa makakapag bigay ng informations nd advices thank you.

rogerjr

@nrekram said:

@rogerjr said:

@John316 said:

@rogerjr said:
My assessment came out today, sad to see they only gave me qualification as engineering technologist instead of professional engineer (electrical). Mahihirapan po kaya mapili for EOI neto?

Kailan po kayo naglodge ng application niyo @rogerjr ?
Just wondering kung gaanot katagal ang release ng results nowadays

Feb 26, nakafast track po ako then March 15 humingi ng additional docs yung EA then nasubmit ko March 26.

Hi, ano usually ang hinihingi na additional documents? Pano if di na provide, ma reject application kaya?

Balak ko na mag lodge within this april 2nd week, nasa abroad pa namn aq, di maka byahe if ever my additional na hihingin.

1. Revise CDR with some hints or tips what are missing in it.
2. Reference letter from previous company (generic COE without the complete details needed by EA is not accepted).
3. Proof of contribution during the work exp (SSS data lang yung binigay ko that seems ok naman since binigay yung work exp ko)

yan lang po.

Specter

Hello po, question lang po may best month o date po ba magsubmit/paassess sa EA? at Pati sa pag lodge ng visa?

Thanks in advance po. Laking tulong po ng trend na to.

nrekram

@rogerjr said:

@nrekram said:

@rogerjr said:

@John316 said:

@rogerjr said:
My assessment came out today, sad to see they only gave me qualification as engineering technologist instead of professional engineer (electrical). Mahihirapan po kaya mapili for EOI neto?

Kailan po kayo naglodge ng application niyo @rogerjr ?
Just wondering kung gaanot katagal ang release ng results nowadays

Feb 26, nakafast track po ako then March 15 humingi ng additional docs yung EA then nasubmit ko March 26.

Hi, ano usually ang hinihingi na additional documents? Pano if di na provide, ma reject application kaya?

Balak ko na mag lodge within this april 2nd week, nasa abroad pa namn aq, di maka byahe if ever my additional na hihingin.

1. Revise CDR with some hints or tips what are missing in it.
2. Reference letter from previous company (generic COE without the complete details needed by EA is not accepted).
3. Proof of contribution during the work exp (SSS data lang yung binigay ko that seems ok naman since binigay yung work exp ko)

yan lang po.

Thanks,
meron na ako COE na with JD at affidavit sa old employer ko at generated sss contributions, old payslips at BIR docs.
sana maging smooth ang lahat.

Ng DIY ka lang ba? Or meron ka agency?
Magkano lahat na gasto mo?

BabyNJ

hello po hingi lang po ako ng advice kong saan ako magpapa assess BS electrical Engineering po tinapos ko pero nasa technician lang ang mga position ng mga COE ko currently nasa middle east po ako ngayon starting to gather the data and information sa forum na ito. nag ipo po talaga ako para makarating ng AU kong loloobin ng diyos maraming salamat po sa makakapag bigay ng informations nd advices thank you.

RheaMARN1171933

@Specter said:
Hello po, question lang po may best month o date po ba magsubmit/paassess sa EA? at Pati sa pag lodge ng visa?

Thanks in advance po. Laking tulong po ng trend na to.

Best month is always NOW. In other words no such thing as best month, it’s more of do it sooner rather than later.

rogerjr

@nrekram said:

@rogerjr said:

@nrekram said:

@rogerjr said:

@John316 said:

@rogerjr said:
My assessment came out today, sad to see they only gave me qualification as engineering technologist instead of professional engineer (electrical). Mahihirapan po kaya mapili for EOI neto?

Kailan po kayo naglodge ng application niyo @rogerjr ?
Just wondering kung gaanot katagal ang release ng results nowadays

Feb 26, nakafast track po ako then March 15 humingi ng additional docs yung EA then nasubmit ko March 26.

Hi, ano usually ang hinihingi na additional documents? Pano if di na provide, ma reject application kaya?

Balak ko na mag lodge within this april 2nd week, nasa abroad pa namn aq, di maka byahe if ever my additional na hihingin.

1. Revise CDR with some hints or tips what are missing in it.
2. Reference letter from previous company (generic COE without the complete details needed by EA is not accepted).
3. Proof of contribution during the work exp (SSS data lang yung binigay ko that seems ok naman since binigay yung work exp ko)

yan lang po.

Thanks,
meron na ako COE na with JD at affidavit sa old employer ko at generated sss contributions, old payslips at BIR docs.
sana maging smooth ang lahat.

Ng DIY ka lang ba? Or meron ka agency?
Magkano lahat na gasto mo?

DIY po ako.

Competency Demonstration Report +
Relevant Skilled Employment Assessment (+$360 Excl. GST) $1,155.00 (AUD) $1,270.50 (AUD)

di ko sure kung saan sa dalawang yan, pero may discount din siya, konti. haha

Specter

Hello po, question ulit. hehe, Mechanical Engineer po ako, currently working kasi ako sa CDR ko and generally hawak ko po kasi trabaho ay MPF works sa construction project management bali may experience ako in terms ng Mechanical, Plumbing at Fire protection mas ok ba ilagay per scope sa CDR kasi 3 episodes naman o mag stick lang ako sa isang scope like Mechanical lang? Ano po ba ginawa nyo? Thanks in advance po.

kkkaaaccc

@anica said:

@tigerlance said:

@joboumali said:

@tigerlance said:
Inquire ko lang po. dun sa portion na add additional employment records.
Dito po ba ilalagay yung payslip? (Paano ito didiskartehan kung more than 120 pages ito)
bank statement of account records? 60 pages po ito
bir 2307 - 11 pages
provident fund contribution - 2 pages
sss contribution? - 2 pages

Considering na malaki ang files ni payslip and bank statement sakop po ba statement na "Files should not be larger than 5MB with a maximum file size allowed of 10MB"

Hi @tigerlance ask ko lang, pede ang 2307 as payment evidence? meron kasing year ako na ndi ko maretrieve ung payslip

Marami ways..
a) BIR Form 2307 - 3rd party evidence
b) Bank Statement from Bank - 3rd party evidence
c) Provident Fund Contribution - 3rd party evidence as well as sss contribution.
d) Payslip - 2nd party lang. kaya mas okay ang a, b, and c

How about po mga nag ttrabaho abroad? Ano pong payment evidence ang pede isubmit?

@anica, di mo na kailangan payment evidence pag overseas ka nagtratrabaho, submit mo lang visa mo.

joboumali

@tigerlance said:

@joboumali said:

@tigerlance said:
Inquire ko lang po. dun sa portion na add additional employment records.
Dito po ba ilalagay yung payslip? (Paano ito didiskartehan kung more than 120 pages ito)
bank statement of account records? 60 pages po ito
bir 2307 - 11 pages
provident fund contribution - 2 pages
sss contribution? - 2 pages

Considering na malaki ang files ni payslip and bank statement sakop po ba statement na "Files should not be larger than 5MB with a maximum file size allowed of 10MB"

Hi @tigerlance ask ko lang, pede ang 2307 as payment evidence? meron kasing year ako na ndi ko maretrieve ung payslip

Marami ways..
a) BIR Form 2307 - 3rd party evidence
b) Bank Statement from Bank - 3rd party evidence
c) Provident Fund Contribution - 3rd party evidence as well as sss contribution.
d) Payslip - 2nd party lang. kaya mas okay ang a, b, and c

@tigerlance how did you present pala ung SSS contribution? Screenshot lang talaga then kita dapat ung monthly contribution, member details, employment details and SS Number?

RheaMARN1171933

@kkkaaaccc said:

@anica said:

@tigerlance said:

@joboumali said:

@tigerlance said:
Inquire ko lang po. dun sa portion na add additional employment records.
Dito po ba ilalagay yung payslip? (Paano ito didiskartehan kung more than 120 pages ito)
bank statement of account records? 60 pages po ito
bir 2307 - 11 pages
provident fund contribution - 2 pages
sss contribution? - 2 pages

Considering na malaki ang files ni payslip and bank statement sakop po ba statement na "Files should not be larger than 5MB with a maximum file size allowed of 10MB"

Hi @tigerlance ask ko lang, pede ang 2307 as payment evidence? meron kasing year ako na ndi ko maretrieve ung payslip

Marami ways..
a) BIR Form 2307 - 3rd party evidence
b) Bank Statement from Bank - 3rd party evidence
c) Provident Fund Contribution - 3rd party evidence as well as sss contribution.
d) Payslip - 2nd party lang. kaya mas okay ang a, b, and c

How about po mga nag ttrabaho abroad? Ano pong payment evidence ang pede isubmit?

@anica, di mo na kailangan payment evidence pag overseas ka nagtratrabaho, submit mo lang visa mo.

Payment evidences are required for employment skilled assessment, doesn’t matter which country you’re working.

kkkaaaccc

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@kkkaaaccc said:

@anica said:

@tigerlance said:

@joboumali said:

@tigerlance said:
Inquire ko lang po. dun sa portion na add additional employment records.
Dito po ba ilalagay yung payslip? (Paano ito didiskartehan kung more than 120 pages ito)
bank statement of account records? 60 pages po ito
bir 2307 - 11 pages
provident fund contribution - 2 pages
sss contribution? - 2 pages

Considering na malaki ang files ni payslip and bank statement sakop po ba statement na "Files should not be larger than 5MB with a maximum file size allowed of 10MB"

Hi @tigerlance ask ko lang, pede ang 2307 as payment evidence? meron kasing year ako na ndi ko maretrieve ung payslip

Marami ways..
a) BIR Form 2307 - 3rd party evidence
b) Bank Statement from Bank - 3rd party evidence
c) Provident Fund Contribution - 3rd party evidence as well as sss contribution.
d) Payslip - 2nd party lang. kaya mas okay ang a, b, and c

How about po mga nag ttrabaho abroad? Ano pong payment evidence ang pede isubmit?

@anica, di mo na kailangan payment evidence pag overseas ka nagtratrabaho, submit mo lang visa mo.

Payment evidences are required for employment skilled assessment, doesn’t matter which country you’re working.

Oh I see. Anyway, I am just speaking based on my experience since they did not require payment evidences from me. I just submitted my labor contract and work permit visa.

RheaMARN1171933

@kkkaaaccc said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@kkkaaaccc said:

@anica said:

@tigerlance said:

@joboumali said:

@tigerlance said:
Inquire ko lang po. dun sa portion na add additional employment records.
Dito po ba ilalagay yung payslip? (Paano ito didiskartehan kung more than 120 pages ito)
bank statement of account records? 60 pages po ito
bir 2307 - 11 pages
provident fund contribution - 2 pages
sss contribution? - 2 pages

Considering na malaki ang files ni payslip and bank statement sakop po ba statement na "Files should not be larger than 5MB with a maximum file size allowed of 10MB"

Hi @tigerlance ask ko lang, pede ang 2307 as payment evidence? meron kasing year ako na ndi ko maretrieve ung payslip

Marami ways..
a) BIR Form 2307 - 3rd party evidence
b) Bank Statement from Bank - 3rd party evidence
c) Provident Fund Contribution - 3rd party evidence as well as sss contribution.
d) Payslip - 2nd party lang. kaya mas okay ang a, b, and c

How about po mga nag ttrabaho abroad? Ano pong payment evidence ang pede isubmit?

@anica, di mo na kailangan payment evidence pag overseas ka nagtratrabaho, submit mo lang visa mo.

Payment evidences are required for employment skilled assessment, doesn’t matter which country you’re working.

Oh I see. Anyway, I am just speaking based on my experience since they did not require payment evidences from me. I just submitted my labor contract and work permit visa.

@kkkaaaccc said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@kkkaaaccc said:

@anica said:

@tigerlance said:

@joboumali said:

@tigerlance said:
Inquire ko lang po. dun sa portion na add additional employment records.
Dito po ba ilalagay yung payslip? (Paano ito didiskartehan kung more than 120 pages ito)
bank statement of account records? 60 pages po ito
bir 2307 - 11 pages
provident fund contribution - 2 pages
sss contribution? - 2 pages

Considering na malaki ang files ni payslip and bank statement sakop po ba statement na "Files should not be larger than 5MB with a maximum file size allowed of 10MB"

Hi @tigerlance ask ko lang, pede ang 2307 as payment evidence? meron kasing year ako na ndi ko maretrieve ung payslip

Marami ways..
a) BIR Form 2307 - 3rd party evidence
b) Bank Statement from Bank - 3rd party evidence
c) Provident Fund Contribution - 3rd party evidence as well as sss contribution.
d) Payslip - 2nd party lang. kaya mas okay ang a, b, and c

How about po mga nag ttrabaho abroad? Ano pong payment evidence ang pede isubmit?

@anica, di mo na kailangan payment evidence pag overseas ka nagtratrabaho, submit mo lang visa mo.

Payment evidences are required for employment skilled assessment, doesn’t matter which country you’re working.

Oh I see. Anyway, I am just speaking based on my experience since they did not require payment evidences from me. I just submitted my labor contract and work permit visa.

I would assume that the labour contract would state the salary. Hence it would fall under payment evidence. In order to assess the skilled employment experience, the actual work should be paid otherwise the assessing authority will not consider the experience. Immigration will only also consider paid work experience as skilled work experience. Hence the need for payment evidence.

erentropy

Hi, everyone. I would just like to ask if there would be any problems if I get assessed by EA for skilled employment. I am an engineering graduate but my 5 years experience is in operations related to my field but as supervisor/manager, not as engineer. Is EA the right assessing authority or Vetassess? Here is my background:

Degree: Agricultural Engineering
Experience:
2 years - Production Supervisor (Poultry Processing Plant - Philippines)
2 years - Production Manager (Poultry Processing Plant - Philippines)
1 year - Processing Supervisor (Poultry Processing Plant - Overseas)

Thank you.

kmiramontes17

Hi guys. Need your experience with Australian immigration. My GF (25F) and I (25M) come from chemical engineering backgrounds in the Philippines with fairly good academic records. She has only 1yr experience as Production Engineer before being retrenched due to the covid-19 lockdown while I have 1.7 years work as Materials Engineer. I am currently unemployed for further studies. Our points is 75 for visa subclass 189. Do you think we have a chance to be invited by the Australian Immigration (once borders open) because I heard you need 90 points for an invitation and since we only have 1 year experience as engineers?

We have not yet been assessed by EA. Since we cannot get +5 points for the 3 years experience offshore, we don’t need to get the RSEA option for EA assessment?

tigerlance

@kmiramontes17 said:
Hi guys. Need your experience with Australian immigration. My GF (25F) and I (25M) come from chemical engineering backgrounds in the Philippines with fairly good academic records. She has only 1yr experience as Production Engineer before being retrenched due to the covid-19 lockdown while I have 1.7 years work as Materials Engineer. I am currently unemployed for further studies. Our points is 75 for visa subclass 189. Do you think we have a chance to be invited by the Australian Immigration (once borders open) because I heard you need 90 points for an invitation and since we only have 1 year experience as engineers?

We have not yet been assessed by EA. Since we cannot get +5 points for the 3 years experience offshore, we don’t need to get the RSEA option for EA assessment?

189> Ipon ipon muna a\ng points. dahil sa covid 19, marami na po nakapila..Unless, medical laboratory scientist, some medical allied fields, nurses. Pwede na yan points na yan
(Pili kayo ng job na closely related sa ANZSCO code niyo) pero mahirap dahil sa rate ng unemployment ngayon, 8 years to max out points
Fairly good academic - 20 points siguro yan sa PTE....

So wag muna magPTE and Naati. Dapat may job na ngayon na kasi mababawasan ang points niyo pag naging 33 years old na po kayo.

All the best.

renzkimwell

hello mga kapatid na mechanical engineer. Good day sa inyo. ask ko lang pano if ME ako pero most recent experience ko is Material management ng oil and gas equipment and materials, is this a good narrative for a career episode? medyo malayo i think yung MM sa Mech Engg. Pero I saw sa ANZSCO na may group of IE, Production, ME (shown below) na may Material management. Ano po ibig sabihin nung sub group na yun? is it still acceptable for ME to put Material M as career epiosode?

SEE:
GROUP: 2335 INDUSTRIAL, MECHANICAL AND PRODUCTION ENGINEERS
Description
design, organise and oversee the construction, operation and maintenance of mechanical and process plant and installations, establish programs for the coordination of manufacturing activities, and ensure usage of resources is cost effective.
Tasks
studying functional statements, organisational charts and project information to determine functions and responsibilities of workers and work units and to identify areas of duplication
establishing work measurement programs and analysing work samples to develop standards for labour utilisation
analysing workforce utilisation, facility layout, operational data and production schedules and costs to determine optimum worker and equipment efficiencies
designing mechanical equipment, machines, components, products for manufacture, and plant and systems for construction
developing specifications for manufacture, and determining materials, equipment, piping, material flows, capacities and layout of plant and systems
organising and managing project labour and the delivery of materials, plant and equipment
establishing standards and policies for installation, modification, quality control, testing, inspection and maintenance according to engineering principles and safety regulations
inspecting plant to ensure optimum performance is maintained
directing the maintenance of plant buildings and equipment, and coordinating the requirements for new designs, surveys and maintenance schedules
Skill Level

jakibantiles

@renzkimwell said:
hello mga kapatid na mechanical engineer. Good day sa inyo. ask ko lang pano if ME ako pero most recent experience ko is Material management ng oil and gas equipment and materials, is this a good narrative for a career episode? medyo malayo i think yung MM sa Mech Engg. Pero I saw sa ANZSCO na may group of IE, Production, ME (shown below) na may Material management. Ano po ibig sabihin nung sub group na yun? is it still acceptable for ME to put Material M as career epiosode?

SEE:
GROUP: 2335 INDUSTRIAL, MECHANICAL AND PRODUCTION ENGINEERS
Description
design, organise and oversee the construction, operation and maintenance of mechanical and process plant and installations, establish programs for the coordination of manufacturing activities, and ensure usage of resources is cost effective.
Tasks
studying functional statements, organisational charts and project information to determine functions and responsibilities of workers and work units and to identify areas of duplication
establishing work measurement programs and analysing work samples to develop standards for labour utilisation
analysing workforce utilisation, facility layout, operational data and production schedules and costs to determine optimum worker and equipment efficiencies
designing mechanical equipment, machines, components, products for manufacture, and plant and systems for construction
developing specifications for manufacture, and determining materials, equipment, piping, material flows, capacities and layout of plant and systems
organising and managing project labour and the delivery of materials, plant and equipment
establishing standards and policies for installation, modification, quality control, testing, inspection and maintenance according to engineering principles and safety regulations
inspecting plant to ensure optimum performance is maintained
directing the maintenance of plant buildings and equipment, and coordinating the requirements for new designs, surveys and maintenance schedules
Skill Level

Hi po. ME din po ako. I think kaya naman po irelate primarily sa ME yung career episodes niyo. Support niyo lang ng ME terminologies, theories and calculations. Basahin niyo po yung elements na hinihingi sa summary para maiplot niyo yung episodes nang maayos. Sa ngayon po kasi nasa PMSOL tayong mga ME. It would be advantageous kung dun ang pathway natin. Opinion ko lang naman po hehe pero kayo pa rin bahala 😁

jakibantiles

@Specter said:
Hello po, question ulit. hehe, Mechanical Engineer po ako, currently working kasi ako sa CDR ko and generally hawak ko po kasi trabaho ay MPF works sa construction project management bali may experience ako in terms ng Mechanical, Plumbing at Fire protection mas ok ba ilagay per scope sa CDR kasi 3 episodes naman o mag stick lang ako sa isang scope like Mechanical lang? Ano po ba ginawa nyo? Thanks in advance po.

Hello po. ME here din. I suggest po gawin niyong primary yung Mechanical sa lahat ng episodes

renzkimwell

@Scofield said:

@rogerjr said:

Hi, ano pong ginamit nyong secondary documents? thanks

Wala po akong pinasang secondary documents. Perhaps because hindi ako nag-avail ng RSEA?

Eto lang yun complete documents na pinasa ko:

Hello mga boss! Ask ko lang anong Work References ginamit/ininclude mo? can you enumerate po if okay lang? salamat nang marami boss

renzkimwell

@Scofield said:

@Scofield said:
Thank you sa thread na to!! Got my outcome letter today and thank God it is positive!!

Timeline:

-CDR write-up took almost 3 months (lagi akong stuck so tinitigilan ko muna then balik lang din agad)
-CDR completed along with other documentation requirements, Feb 19.
-Applied Standard MSA, No RSEA, Not on the fast track (gusto ko makatipid as much as possible), Feb 22. Status: Awaiting Assessment
-After 10 days, I received a company bonus. I decided to avail the fast track. Paid using my credit card.
-Status changed to "Assessment In Progress" last Mar 15.
-Received outcome letter today, Mar 22.

EOI na!!

Correction sa date.

Boss @Scofield, ME ka rin pala. Pwede paturo gumawa ng CDR? If okay lang din pasend sa email ko para gawin ko guide. di ko po kopyahin. hehe salamat nang marami

engineerphils

@kmiramontes17 said:
Hi guys. Need your experience with Australian immigration. My GF (25F) and I (25M) come from chemical engineering backgrounds in the Philippines with fairly good academic records. She has only 1yr experience as Production Engineer before being retrenched due to the covid-19 lockdown while I have 1.7 years work as Materials Engineer. I am currently unemployed for further studies. Our points is 75 for visa subclass 189. Do you think we have a chance to be invited by the Australian Immigration (once borders open) because I heard you need 90 points for an invitation and since we only have 1 year experience as engineers?

We have not yet been assessed by EA. Since we cannot get +5 points for the 3 years experience offshore, we don’t need to get the RSEA option for EA assessment?

as of now , no chance at all yan mate. pa experience ka muna

zokjc

Hello, ilang points makukuha if na-assess as Electronics Engineer? Bigla ako nalito kung 15 points (Bachelor's) or 10 (A diploma or trade qualification completed in Australia; or other award or qualification recognised by the skills assessing authority)?

Specter

Hello mga sirs/madams, may masusuggest po ba kayo ng mura at trusted na agency? Thanks in advance po.

Scofield

@renzkimwell said:
hello mga kapatid na mechanical engineer. Good day sa inyo. ask ko lang pano if ME ako pero most recent experience ko is Material management ng oil and gas equipment and materials, is this a good narrative for a career episode? medyo malayo i think yung MM sa Mech Engg. Pero I saw sa ANZSCO na may group of IE, Production, ME (shown below) na may Material management. Ano po ibig sabihin nung sub group na yun? is it still acceptable for ME to put Material M as career epiosode?

Agree ako sa sinabi ni @jakibantiles. Kung magagawa mong mairelate sa code description ng ME yun ginagawa mo, much better. List down all your duties and responsibilities, at i-self assess mo kung makukuha mo yun lahat nun elements per MSA manual.

Nga pla, sa Oil & Gas company din ako nagwowork. I presume yun Material Management ay nasa same umbrella ng Supply Chain or Procurement. Usually, sila yun ka-interface namen sa commercial side ng procurement ng equipment. I think mostly din sa kanila ay may mga engineering background, so I assume na required din na may technical knowledge. If tama assumption ko, I think you can relate it to ME kasi nagagamit mo yun background and skills mo as ME. Just think of those instances that would demonstrate that. To be honest, hindi highly technical ang CEs ko. As they always say here, basahin mo yun MSA manual thoroughly and make it as a starting point para madraft mo yun CDR. If in doubt, better consult an agent. Usually, hihingan ka nila ng resume, ieevaluate nila yan at bibigyan ka nila ng recommendation.

Scofield

@renzkimwell said:

@Scofield said:

@rogerjr said:

Hi, ano pong ginamit nyong secondary documents? thanks

Wala po akong pinasang secondary documents. Perhaps because hindi ako nag-avail ng RSEA?

Eto lang yun complete documents na pinasa ko:

Hello mga boss! Ask ko lang anong Work References ginamit/ininclude mo? can you enumerate po if okay lang? salamat nang marami

@renzkimwell, naconfuse din ako dito dati. Buti pinaalala saken ni @RheaMARN1171933 na work reference letter dapat not Certificate of Employment. That time di ko pa kasi nababasa yun EA MSA manual. Hehe.

Yun employer ko kasi generic COE lang binibigay. So, ginawa kong technique dito, ako mismo nagdraft nun content ng work reference letter. Ginawa ko kinuha ko yun generic COE ng company then dun ako nagdagdag ng information. Nilagyan ko ng key achievements per project na nagwork ako at kinuha ko yun testimonies/statement from previous Performance Assessment (PA) saken ng mga managers ko. Dinagdag ko rin yun Job Description from Global Job Description Manual ng company. Then, saka ko kinausap department manager ko about it then nag-email ako sa HR namen for approval. Awa ng Diyos, inapprove naman. Tingin ko kasi hindi sila makakahindi kasi may basis ako nun mga pinagdadagdag ko sa Work Reference Letter. Hehe.

Share ko lang. Hindi ako nag-avail ng RSEA kasi confident ako na relevant ang skills ko. At kaya ko magprovide ng payslip at ITR kung sakaling hihingin saken. Sa isang company pa lang ako nagwork at almost 10 yrs na ko. Thankfully, ganun din yun recommendation ng agent ko. Again, case-to-case basis, I suggest mas okay pa rin na may agent ka.

Scofield

@renzkimwell said:

Boss @Scofield, ME ka rin pala. Pwede paturo gumawa ng CDR? If okay lang din pasend sa email ko para gawin ko guide. di ko po kopyahin. hehe salamat nang marami

Sure. No problem. I can help you. But, I suggest to have an outline first for the content. Writing style should be in active voice. When writing, do not be conscious of your the number of words, grammar, flow, etc. Just let your ideas flow. Once you have the draft, we can use that as a springboard for revision to make it a strong narrative of your career.

Suggestion ko lang yan. Syempre may iba iba tayo ng mga techniques or atake. Share ko lang, yun CE1 ko, umabot ako ng 7 pages. Ang daldal ko kasi. Hahaha. But, I was able to trim it down to 4 pages with 1957 words. Andami kong nilagay na hindi essential so dinelete ko. Yun iba napaikli ko talaga pero na-maintain ko yun same thought nun ginawa ko originally.