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totoo po bang may racism sa Australia?

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  • li_i_renli_i_ren North Ryde
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    edited March 2013
    Pero totoo yan very sensitive ang pinoy... Hahahaha. Parang tayong black americans, ok lang i a fellow black american makes fun of them pero if a white does it naku big problem yan.

    Ang pinoy mahilig mag make fun sa sarili pero if some other race does it. Yan hingi ng national apology agad! Hahahaha!
  • OhmygagOhmygag Sydney
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    Racial tension will always be present. I have been living in Australia for about 3 and half years and I haven't experienced being attacked or discriminated because of my race. What I experience the most are offensive side comments for example when I first arrived here and I made a comment about how much birds there were outside, my sis-in-law replied saying "dont you have that much birds in the Philippines? why is it because they get eaten?" and because where I live there a lot of filipina women who are married to australians who seem to have been labelled "mail order brides" and a couple of girls at my work will say degrading comments about "these women" while I'm in the same room as them (nagpaparinig).

    If you do hear stories about racial discrimination here its mostly against the aboriginal and torres strait islanders, you have to do a bit of reading about it to fully understand how it all came about. I have met filipnos here who have adopted some misconceptions about the aboriginals and I do correct them like not to say "Abo" and not to say things that are degrading to them around aussies.

    In saying that, I think na-adopt ng mga pinoy dito yung discriminitative attitude sa pinas like "promdi" "bisaya", or "baluga" those terms are considered very racist if you think about it. And when I used to work with chinese sa pinas they feel more superior compared sa mga pinoy even when they were born in pinas.

    Australia is a very politically correct society and so people here are careful with the language they use so even if you think one is racist unless that person said " I cant hire you because of your sex, race, religion or cultural background" you cannot just accuse her of being racist or discriminating.
  • beth_logginsbeth_loggins Singapore
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    well I was at Jolibee SG kanina, I believe its just type "hype" kaya ganon , madaming tao. 3 hrs nang pila. parang mag renew ka ng license sa LTO hehehe

    Anyways, I personally think hinde tatagal JB dito, bka max 2 years. ksi

    1) Wla silang HALAL license for the muslims
    2) Singaporean don't like sweet food , they mostly appreciate spicy food
    3) Puro kababayan ang nag wo-work , kaya nag complain mga locals
    4) Hmm.. yung mga well off na pinoy once wala na yung hype, mag JB nlang yan once a month when they go to lucky plaza. so... ganon.

    Well as for me, withdraw ko na 10 years cpf ko , tapos December pasko pinas, tapos UWE AUSTRALIA na ako... bye bye singapore.
  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    Double standard to the point na medyo hipokrito kasi kultura natin e...gusto kuno pantay pantay sa karapatan pero konting usog lang nagrereklamo na.

    Yung isang pang example yung tingin natin sa mga bakla...tuwang tuwa tayo kina Vice Ganda pag nagpapatawa pero huwag ka, kung may artistang ayaw umamin na paminta siya ansama na ng tingin ng mga Pinoy sa kanya, daig pa ang nakapatay ng tao haha..

    Anyway I'm going off topic na sorry hehe...kay threadstarter, huwag ka mag-alala sa issue ng racism...kung meron man sa Australia, bawal yung hayagang papahiyain ka kasi bawal sa batas nila yun :)
  • beth_logginsbeth_loggins Singapore
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    hehe ano nlang kaya. tayo nlang tayo ng praternity dyan sa Australia...
    Eg:

    Taugama - Sydney
    Taugama- Perth ..etc etc

    at least pag may nag bubuly, upakan natin hehe...
    joke joke joke
  • joestrummerjoestrummer Perth
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    I believe what we should know is where we draw the lines of being truly discriminated on like being spit on or not serving you in restaurants or anything. Well far behind that line, I think we shouldn't care less about anything. It just makes us looks too sensitive. Yes I know that we should not let other races treat us like crap but sometimes we just have to let some things go and move on and maybe in the end we'll be able to accept those as facts or jokes. Actually it really doesn't matter as long as we live a happy and contented life.

    By the way, I don't know about Caucasians but some Asians are more racist towards Filipinos based on my past work experiences working in two different Asian countries and some accounts of you here about SG. Well we Filipinos are no good either and I think we should start changing.

    I heard this from a friend of mine from California, "Too much Nationalism leads to Racism, that simply caused the Holocaust". Perhaps he was right..

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    I think yan po yung nabalita sa diyaryo na bawal Pinoy sa China...There are laws in Australia forbidding such racist actions against other races so we should not worry about it
  • Khaosan_RoadKhaosan_Road Melbourne
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    isa lang sasagot ko sa kanila... "You don't Do That to Me" harharhar

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  • hotshothotshot Sydney
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    isa lang sasagot ko sa kanila... "You don't Do That to Me" harharhar
    kaso baka hiritan ka ng..."ang lahat ng 'to ay katuwaan lamang". :)

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    Kung lahat ng tao sa mundo ay parang Willie Revillame, walang racism...kasi magpapatayan na lang lahat hehe
  • Khaosan_RoadKhaosan_Road Melbourne
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    LMFAO @ @hotshot and @LokiJr!!! Payabangan ang labanan kung lahat ng tao parang Willie haha...

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    Walang racism...puro giyera na lang araw araw hehe
  • doubleDuzidoubleDuzi Adelaide
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    @aole; oh eh bat ako, di naman taga bangladesh pero sa road construction ako napadpad? teka, sa singapore lang ba yun? kasi may kasama kaming tsiks na blonde at langya ang sexy pero nag jajackhammer sya apat na oras hahaha!

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    @sheep totoo yan sheep..
  • therealaidstherealaids Singapore
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    Totoo ang racism dito. Just take this an example. para sa mga nasa SG na nasanay sa mapayapang pamumuhay. maagang paalala lang baka maranasan nyo to...

    http://www.sheknows.com/living/articles/1080078/is-racially-motivated-crime-on-the-rise-in-australia
  • rarekingrareking Montreal
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    well... kung naging mayaman lang tayong mga pinoy sa bansa natin palagay ko tayo pinakaracist. opinyon ko lang.

    1. napakalupit natin magdiscriminate ng mga bisaya, salitang inday is a well respected word in the visayas but not in Manila and Luzon.
    2. sobrang sama tingin natin sa mga katulong, etc. More fun in the phil parating joke ng bayan ang mga katulong, tuloy ikinahiya na ng kultura at sambayanan. Yung culture natin parang bading culture na.. meron pa tayo mga terms like "longkatuts" etc, degrading dun sa mga mararangal na nagtratrabaho.
    3. same din sa mga materyal na bagay, cellphone etc. sobra tayo manlait ng mga taong kunyari ang celllphone ay lumang model, chinese brand... etc. dinadaan sa pajoke, kakatawa pero in the end kakatawa na yung nagiging mga ugali natin.. pati bata namamana yung pagpapahalaga sa mga branded na mga items instead na maging masaya sa mamunting meron sila.
    4. marami pa iba ibang discriminasyon sa hitsura, trabaho, propesyon, amoy, style ng buhok, pananamit, kulay ng balat, asawa, anak, magulang, sapatos, pabango, etc.

    lagay na nating masayahin tayo, dinadaan natin sa joke yung mga panlalait... pero in the end kinakain na tayo ng maling kulturang ganito. para tayong bansa na nasa loob ng isang malaking comedy bar. dinagdagan pa ng media nating puro si KRis Aquino at Vice Ganda ang parating nakikita, at mga pulitikong nangungurakot (na hindi umaamin kahit huli na).

    Maliban sa forum na ito, na naging propesyunal at mababait ang mga members.. try nyo pumasok sa mga common international forums ng gaming, social media etc... hulaan nyo kung sino usually ang pinaka basura magmura, manlait at mga bastos sa forum na parating nibaban ng mga admisnitrators. yeap - tayo, pinoy.

    To conclude - tayo ang isa sa mga pinakaracist at patuloy na lumalala dahil sa media natin sa ating bansa. Pwede pang magbago, pero kailangan ng bansa natin mga kagaya natin na ipamulat na may mali sa mga nagyayari sa atin. Ito ang malaking dahilan kung bakit, umalis ako sa pinas at lilipat sa Oz.

    BOW. :)

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  • AdminAdmin Singapore
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    racism is everywhere, kahit sa SG meron. Nung pumunta kame sa LA few years back na tukso pagiging chinese ko ng mga rapper. Akalain mo da harap ko laitin akong jackie chan at pagtawanan ng mga kanong negro. Pero up to us panu hahandelin ang situation. Pag may racist kang kapitbahay nanasasyo panu mo sosolusyunan. Either mawin mo sila or makaaway mo sila.

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  • EnvyEnvy Milton
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    Australia is proud of its diversity so expect to meet a lot of people from different background but if there are fair skin australians who would ever direct racism act towards dark skin like me. Isa lang ibig sabihin nun, they are idiots and dont know the history of the country.

    Australia is nearest to Asia but consider themselves Brit. just saying.

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  • wizardofOzwizardofOz Brisbane
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    well... kung naging mayaman lang tayong mga pinoy sa bansa natin palagay ko tayo pinakaracist. opinyon ko lang.

    1. napakalupit natin magdiscriminate ng mga bisaya, salitang inday is a well respected word in the visayas but not in Manila and Luzon.
    2. sobrang sama tingin natin sa mga katulong, etc. More fun in the phil parating joke ng bayan ang mga katulong, tuloy ikinahiya na ng kultura at sambayanan. Yung culture natin parang bading culture na.. meron pa tayo mga terms like "longkatuts" etc, degrading dun sa mga mararangal na nagtratrabaho.
    3. same din sa mga materyal na bagay, cellphone etc. sobra tayo manlait ng mga taong kunyari ang celllphone ay lumang model, chinese brand... etc. dinadaan sa pajoke, kakatawa pero in the end kakatawa na yung nagiging mga ugali natin.. pati bata namamana yung pagpapahalaga sa mga branded na mga items instead na maging masaya sa mamunting meron sila.
    4. marami pa iba ibang discriminasyon sa hitsura, trabaho, propesyon, amoy, style ng buhok, pananamit, kulay ng balat, asawa, anak, magulang, sapatos, pabango, etc.

    lagay na nating masayahin tayo, dinadaan natin sa joke yung mga panlalait... pero in the end kinakain na tayo ng maling kulturang ganito. para tayong bansa na nasa loob ng isang malaking comedy bar. dinagdagan pa ng media nating puro si KRis Aquino at Vice Ganda ang parating nakikita, at mga pulitikong nangungurakot (na hindi umaamin kahit huli na).

    Maliban sa forum na ito, na naging propesyunal at mababait ang mga members.. try nyo pumasok sa mga common international forums ng gaming, social media etc... hulaan nyo kung sino usually ang pinaka basura magmura, manlait at mga bastos sa forum na parating nibaban ng mga admisnitrators. yeap - tayo, pinoy.

    To conclude - tayo ang isa sa mga pinakaracist at patuloy na lumalala dahil sa media natin sa ating bansa. Pwede pang magbago, pero kailangan ng bansa natin mga kagaya natin na ipamulat na may mali sa mga nagyayari sa atin. Ito ang malaking dahilan kung bakit, umalis ako sa pinas at lilipat sa Oz.

    BOW. :)

    Natumbok mo bro, parang Comedy Bar nga ang Pinas... laging "excuse" ng karamihan sa Pinoy na "masayahin" kasi tayo... pero minsan, at the expense na ng panlalait sa kapwa...

    Nawala na yung breeding, values, “class”, at higit sa lahat kabutihang-asal ng karamihan sa Pinoys…

    Hindi naman kailangangang maging mayaman ka para magkaroon ka ng breeding or class… values at kabutihang-asal sapat na.

    Kahit may mga pinag-aralan ngayon, bumababa na lang sa level ng maling pag-uugali, para "in", kasi naging masyado na tayong tolerant sa panlalait sa isat-isa… “Fun” yun sa tingin ng karamihan…

    Kawawa yung mga batang henerasyon na ganyan yung nakikita…

    Kaya bago tayo maging overly sensitive sa pagiging rude at racist ng ibang lahi… siguro mas mabuting tingnan muna natin yung mga sarili natin.

    Bow :D

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    Ito ay isang issue na mahirap talagang mawala. Kahit saan ka man mapadpad. Kailangang mo lang lakasan ang loob mo at huwag magpadala sa negatibong tinging ng iba sa iyo. Isipin mo na lang na mababaw lang ang utak nila at ikaw ay mas may modo at may pinag-aralan. Kadalasan ang rason ay inggit lang sila. Ang nakakalungkot ay maski kapwa mong Pinoy na kaibigan o kamag-anak na akala mong makakatulong sa yo o maaasahan mo at pinagkatiwalaan mo ay kaya ka pa rin itakwil dahil lang sa inggit o mababa ang tingin nila sa iyo, lalung-lalo na kung alam nila na mas angat ang tingin nila sa sarili nila kumpara sa yo. Ganun din dito pag-nasa ibang bansa ka. Dahil din siguro ito sa pagiging diverse ng kultura at lahi natin. Isang ihemplo ay nung may pinakilala ang kamag-anak ko na isang kaibigan at ako'y nagulat na imbes na kausapin ako at sabihin na 'Kumusta ka?' ay tinanong pa sa kamag-anak ko 'Taga-(province name censored) din ba sya?'. Napa-iling na lang ako.

    Hanggat mapag-pakinibangan ka ay kaibigan ka nila. Pero pagkatapos ka nang pakinabangan at wala nang kailangan sa yo, iiwanan ka na lang sa ere kahit wala kang ginawang kasalanan.

    Ang napansin ko dito sa Oz ngayon na nakatira at nakapagtrabaho na ako ng mahigit na sampung-taon ay ang mga puti ay nakakaranas din ng diskriminasyon din sa sarili nilang kapwa. May nakatrabaho akong puti na parating nag-kukwento ng mga bagay na kinaiinisan nya sa kapwa puti na lahi pag kausap nya sa telepono, o makausap harap-harapan, o makasalubong sa daan. Nakakaranas din sila ng pagwalang-galang at pagbabastos ng kapwa nila.

    Ang isa pang napansin ko ay kaya sinasabi nila na may diskriminasyon dito sa Oz ay dahilan sa sobrang daming kultura na dito. Ang magandang ugali sa ating mga Pinoy ay marunong tayo makibagay at sumunod sa batas (sa ibang bansa), hindi kagaya ng ibang lahi na hindi marunong bumagay o sumunod at gusto pa rin sundin ang sarili nilang kultura imbes na maki-bagay sa batas at kultura ng mga puti.

    Sa maiksing salita...bumilib ka na lang sa sarili mo at huwag mo silang intindihin. Huwag ka na lang mag-aksaya ng panahon sa kanila kasi sayang lang. Pagtawanan mo na lang. Maganda nga i-apply yung common phrase ng mga puti na 'no worries mate' pag nakaranas ka ng diskriminasyon.
  • EnvyEnvy Milton
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    oo totoong may racism sa Australia kahit mismong kalahi natin hindi mo masasabing hindi guilty

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  • chollecholle Sydney
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    Short answer: yes

    Pero kung ang concern ng TS ay directed ba ito sa mga Pinoy, hindi masyado.
    They're more biased against other, umm, more perceived 'aggressive' cultures. At least that's the case in Sydney.

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  • leah28leah28 Melbourne
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    edited June 2015
    Yes meron khit saan nman ata eh, were here na for almost 4 years pero di nman kmi nkaranas ng grabe discrimination saka wag ka pa apekto sa mga ganyang bagay instead prove them kung ano ang meron ka, dito sa work nmen mostly Australians pati yung mga boss so far ok nman cla bawal nga dito yung racism and bullying pede mo ireklamo, ung ibang company they want filipino workers kse masisipag and fast learner marunong pang mag english compared sa ibang asian countries, even yung mga real state dito pag uupa ka dito sa suburb nmen preferred nila pinoy kse malinis sa bahay at marunong magbayad, kya dpat lng tlaga as Pinoy we should prove them na ok tayo para ma gain natin respect at confidence nila sa lahi natin :) isang bagay na matutunan ko dito yung pagiging straight forward kse ganon mga puti wala paligoy ligoy, kung karapatan mo yun speak up kse di uso dito pakiramdaman, lhat ng transaction mo put it in writing mahirap asahan ang words lng, saka be smart minsan mga schemer yan ok pagkaharap kya we should learn how to go with the flow :)
  • tartakobskytartakobsky Melbourne
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    opo normal lang yan sa una dahil bagong salta ka, example sa trabaho, i-bully ka nila konti. parang sindakan ba. pero pag nakuha mo kiliti at respect nila, babait na yan sa iyo.

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  • wizardofOzwizardofOz Brisbane
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    Short answer: yes

    Pero kung ang concern ng TS ay directed ba ito sa mga Pinoy, hindi masyado.
    They're more biased against other, umm, more perceived 'aggressive' cultures. At least that's the case in Sydney.
    Naintriga tuloy ako kung ano yung mga "aggressive cultures" na yun hehehehe

    Yung mga Pinoy kasi, in general hindi gaano nakaka-threaten, kasi sa una mga very polite yan and submissive... mga di makabasag-pinggan hehehe

    Nominated Occupation: Plant or Production Engineer (ANZSCO 233513)

    03/23/13: IELTS GT Exam (British Council)
    04/05/13: IELTS Results L:7.0/R:7.5/W:7.5/S:8.5 OBS: 7.5
    makalipas ang isang taon....
    04/20/14: CDR Application sent to EA
    07/09/14: EA started reviewing my CDR
    08/08/14: EA Assessment Positive Results (Thank you LORD!!!)
    09/16/14: Requested EA for a Duplicate Letter (Original Outcome Letter lost during mail delivery to PH)
    09/21/14: Duplicate Assessment Letter received (Finally!!)
    09/21/14: EOI Lodged (70 pts)
    09/22/14: Invited to lodge Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) visa
    09/23/14: Obtained Overseas PCC
    09/29/14: Obtained NBI Clearance
    10/12/14: Lodged application - Visa Subclass 189
    10/12/14: Uploaded docs
    10/20/14: Medicals Done
    12/06/14: Direct Grant! To GOD Be the Glory!
    12/13/14: Completed Initial Entry - Sydney

  • chollecholle Sydney
    Posts: 403Member
    Joined: Nov 21, 2013
    @wizardofOz hehe mahirap nang magbanggit ng lahi dito. PM mo na lang ako kung gusto mo talagang malamang

    Occupation: Other Spatial Scientist (ANZSCO Code 232214)
    30 Nov 2013 - IELTS Academic R8.5 W8 L8.5 S9 / Overall 8.5
    10 Feb 2014 - Skills Assessment (VETASSESS)
    23 May 2014 - VETASSESS Outcome: Positive
    27 May 2014 - EOI (70 points)
    9 Jun 2014 - Visa invitation received, application lodged (SI189)
    2 Jul 2014 - CO allocation
    6 Aug 2014 - Visa granted (IED 4 Jul 2015)
    11 Oct 2014 - Moved to Sydney
    20 Oct 2014 - Job offer
    29 Oct 2014 - Start of work
    17-26 Dec 2014 - Dog at Sydney quarantine
    24 Dec 2014 - Partner's initial entry (Maligayang Pasko!)
    16 May 2017 - Purchase first property
    17 Oct 2018 - Citizenship application lodged (Council: City of Sydney)
    8 Jul 2019: Test invite
    20 Aug 2019: Test: (originally 20/9/19)
    21 Aug 2019: Citizenship Approved
    31 October 2019: Citizenship Ceremony 🇦🇺

  • guenbguenb Mandaluyong
    Posts: 470Member
    Joined: Jun 17, 2015
    I've only had a chance to have a vacation in Sydney for three weeks and so far yun naging basis ko if I'll take a chance on migration. Usually sa shops napansin ko lang ang nice nila to everyone & wala nman discrimination. I look like an average Filipino & even the Filipino guy working at Central station recognized us & ng tagalog agad! Wish me luck na lang on my road to permanent residence :)

    261111 - ICT Business Analyst
    26|05|15 - Visited Oz
    01|08|15 - IDP PH IELTS
    14|08|15 - (L:8.5 R:8.0 W:6.5 S:8.0 OBS:8.0) Sawi!
    07|09|15 - Remarking, unchanged.
    21|03|16 - Submitted to ACS
    30|03|16 - Assessment result, unsuitable, <4years
    27|09|16 - PTE Academic (L76/R55/S31/W88) Sawi!
    08|10|16 - IDP PH IELTS
    12|10|16 - Re-assessment ACS
    21|10|16 - (L:8.5 R:8.0 W:7.0 S:7.5 OBS:8.0) Better!
    28|10|16 - Assessment result, suitable!
    28|10|16 - Lodged EOI for 190/489 (60/65)
    Preparing for PTE Academic...
    Philippians 4:13 "I can do all this through him who gives me strength."

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