BAD EMPLOYMENT EXPERIENCES IN AUSTRALIA

ali0522

Gusto ko lang i-share ang bad experiences namin at ng friends ko dito sa australia to raise awareness na hindi porket nandito na sa Aus eh all things are good. First time po namin mag-work abroad ng asawa ko. Parehas po kami PR.

We came here in Sydney last March 2020, nakakuha ng job after two weeks as drafters. Kami ng husband ko are structural engineers in ph. Thankful pa rin kami dahil nakakuha kami ng job kahit may pandemic. Magkasama pa kami ni hubby sa work. After sometime, since baguhan kami sa field ng facade, we often commit mistakes, pero dito nakakatakot magkamali kasi sisigawan ka ng may-ari at mahilig pa sya magmura. As in may F**k lahat ng sentence nya. Lebanese po may-ari ng company na napasukan namin. Feeling namin mag asawa na survival game everyday at anytime pwede kang tanggalin. Kasi ganun dito, kahit mga seniors bigla bigla na lang natatanggal.
Sa ngayon andito pa rin kami pero nag apply na kami sa iba para may back-up plan. Naiisip na lang namin na buti may trabaho pa rin kami. Yun na lang motivation namin para bumangon at pumasok hahaha.

Another story, yung friend namin is nakapasok sa isang company Lebanese din may-ari, as civil engineer, same feeling two weeks lang sya tumagal. Lagi nagmumura at sumisigaw hahaha

xiaolico

@ali0522 said:
Gusto ko lang i-share ang bad experiences namin at ng friends ko dito sa australia to raise awareness na hindi porket nandito na sa Aus eh all things are good. First time po namin mag-work abroad ng asawa ko. Parehas po kami PR.

We came here in Sydney last March 2020, nakakuha ng job after two weeks as drafters. Kami ng husband ko are structural engineers in ph. Thankful pa rin kami dahil nakakuha kami ng job kahit may pandemic. Magkasama pa kami ni hubby sa work. After sometime, since baguhan kami sa field ng facade, we often commit mistakes, pero dito nakakatakot magkamali kasi sisigawan ka ng may-ari at mahilig pa sya magmura. As in may F**k lahat ng sentence nya. Lebanese po may-ari ng company na napasukan namin. Feeling namin mag asawa na survival game everyday at anytime pwede kang tanggalin. Kasi ganun dito, kahit mga seniors bigla bigla na lang natatanggal.
Sa ngayon andito pa rin kami pero nag apply na kami sa iba para may back-up plan. Naiisip na lang namin na buti may trabaho pa rin kami. Yun na lang motivation namin para bumangon at pumasok hahaha.

Another story, yung friend namin is nakapasok sa isang company Lebanese din may-ari, as civil engineer, same feeling two weeks lang sya tumagal. Lagi nagmumura at sumisigaw hahaha

Good luck, sana makahanap kayo ibang work. pero tama, at least may trabaho sa panahon ngayon.

ali0522

@xiaolico tiis tiis na lang, @zekemadr actually may isa pa akong friend na under din ng lebanese na company, gusto na din nya umalis. hindi naman sa pagiging racist pero 3 out of 3 na kakilala ko including kami bad experience under Lebanese na boss. hahaha yung iba describe pa parang nasa hell sila. For me kahit normal lang sa kanya ang pagmumura, hindi healthy yung environment dito.

Kaidan

Ayoko rin maging racist pero don't work for Mid Eastern bosses and family businesses. Alam ko mahirap maging choosy ngayon pero check the background of the company thoroughly. Ang problema sa Pinoy, although can be our positive too, hindi marunong mag reklamo in the right way. Like now, you are complaining here, but did you raise this to your HR already? Are there any labor violations? Nasa first world na kayo, mas protected kayo jan ng mga batas nila kesa dito na naging ugali natin na hayaan na lang kasi alam nating walang mangyayari.

ali0522

@Kaidan saan po ba makikita labor violations?

sensei

Been working with various A/E consultants since 2008, "F" word for them is sort of an expression. Now, in a new role, almost everyday; every hour, we hear this word. It became a norm that it has now become nothing.
If those words were directed towards you because of work related issues or frustration on you; well then that's a different story.
As what mentioned by @Kaidan, you can raised this immediately with your HR, for sure clauses were mentioned on your employment contract regarding these kind of issues (harassment, bullying). Silence will bring nothing. Speak up.

xiaolico

@ali0522 said:
@xiaolico tiis tiis na lang, @zekemadr actually may isa pa akong friend na under din ng lebanese na company, gusto na din nya umalis. hindi naman sa pagiging racist pero 3 out of 3 na kakilala ko including kami bad experience under Lebanese na boss. hahaha yung iba describe pa parang nasa hell sila. For me kahit normal lang sa kanya ang pagmumura, hindi healthy yung environment dito.

Normally kasi if ganyan, I would say, madami naman jobs sa au. It’s not as hard humanap ng work. You have to trust your resume and your skills. Of course you have to trust your savings as well na you have more than enough habang bakante ka. Kaso May pandemic, I don’t think the job market is currently hot. Kaya Tama, tiis muna. As soon as matapos pandemic, iwan mo na yan.

Captain_A

@ali0522 said:
Gusto ko lang i-share ang bad experiences namin at ng friends ko dito sa australia to raise awareness na hindi porket nandito na sa Aus eh all things are good. First time po namin mag-work abroad ng asawa ko. Parehas po kami PR.

We came here in Sydney last March 2020, nakakuha ng job after two weeks as drafters. Kami ng husband ko are structural engineers in ph. Thankful pa rin kami dahil nakakuha kami ng job kahit may pandemic. Magkasama pa kami ni hubby sa work. After sometime, since baguhan kami sa field ng facade, we often commit mistakes, pero dito nakakatakot magkamali kasi sisigawan ka ng may-ari at mahilig pa sya magmura. As in may F**k lahat ng sentence nya. Lebanese po may-ari ng company na napasukan namin. Feeling namin mag asawa na survival game everyday at anytime pwede kang tanggalin. Kasi ganun dito, kahit mga seniors bigla bigla na lang natatanggal.
Sa ngayon andito pa rin kami pero nag apply na kami sa iba para may back-up plan. Naiisip na lang namin na buti may trabaho pa rin kami. Yun na lang motivation namin para bumangon at pumasok hahaha.

Another story, yung friend namin is nakapasok sa isang company Lebanese din may-ari, as civil engineer, same feeling two weeks lang sya tumagal. Lagi nagmumura at sumisigaw hahaha

i have a lebanese colleague, mahilig tlga sila sa f-word, since i also been to singapore, kasi mas toxic ang environment dun both chinese and indian bosses, in my experience.
meron din ako friend, pure blooded aussie na puti, super f-word din at dama nya na racist and abusado n boss.

so since first time nyo mag asawa sa abroad, mejo different sainyo ito regardless kung anuman ang race. not saying na 'hayaan nyo na lng'.

tiis muna habang pandemic, you can definitely have a better working environment here, hopefully soon.

..arki_

@Captain_A said:

@ali0522 said:
Gusto ko lang i-share ang bad experiences namin at ng friends ko dito sa australia to raise awareness na hindi porket nandito na sa Aus eh all things are good. First time po namin mag-work abroad ng asawa ko. Parehas po kami PR.

We came here in Sydney last March 2020, nakakuha ng job after two weeks as drafters. Kami ng husband ko are structural engineers in ph. Thankful pa rin kami dahil nakakuha kami ng job kahit may pandemic. Magkasama pa kami ni hubby sa work. After sometime, since baguhan kami sa field ng facade, we often commit mistakes, pero dito nakakatakot magkamali kasi sisigawan ka ng may-ari at mahilig pa sya magmura. As in may F**k lahat ng sentence nya. Lebanese po may-ari ng company na napasukan namin. Feeling namin mag asawa na survival game everyday at anytime pwede kang tanggalin. Kasi ganun dito, kahit mga seniors bigla bigla na lang natatanggal.
Sa ngayon andito pa rin kami pero nag apply na kami sa iba para may back-up plan. Naiisip na lang namin na buti may trabaho pa rin kami. Yun na lang motivation namin para bumangon at pumasok hahaha.

Another story, yung friend namin is nakapasok sa isang company Lebanese din may-ari, as civil engineer, same feeling two weeks lang sya tumagal. Lagi nagmumura at sumisigaw hahaha

i have a lebanese colleague, mahilig tlga sila sa f-word, since i also been to singapore, kasi mas toxic ang environment dun both chinese and indian bosses, in my experience.
meron din ako friend, pure blooded aussie na puti, super f-word din at dama nya na racist and abusado n boss.

so since first time nyo mag asawa sa abroad, mejo different sainyo ito regardless kung anuman ang race. not saying na 'hayaan nyo na lng'.

tiis muna habang pandemic, you can definitely have a better working environment here, hopefully soon.

My exact same thoughts sir @Captain_A . Working abroad is very different from working in Ph talaga. Different work cultures kasi. I’ve also gone through that same feeling na ‘survival mode’ lang when i first came here to SG.. & you’re right, feeling ko mas matindi yung ibang lahi na na-mention. Hehe
Pero sabi nga nila, @ali0522 if it doesn’t work for you, you can always find a new job after this pandemic streak. Kaya nyo yan
fighting! 🙂

Cerberus13

Yup. Different countries, different culture. Gusto ko rin malaman kung ung F bomb ba is directly addressed to you or baka expression lang talaga. If expression, I would shrug it off. Currently working in Japan (Tokyo), and so far Japanese bosses and colleagues seem to be the calmest and kindest. But I do hear some Japanese bosses na may temper, but I have not encountered them personally. I also worked for a Chinese boss in Malaysia, pala mura din sila. Sigawan sa meeting, sigawan sa site. lol

ali0522

@barryco i think more of an expression naman po, naghahanap pa rin ng malilipatan habang andito pa kami kasi recently, 3 staff nanaman ang aalis, hindi sa dahil sinibak kundi sa toxic environment sila ang umalis.

lecia

@ali0522 said:
@barryco i think more of an expression naman po, naghahanap pa rin ng malilipatan habang andito pa kami kasi recently, 3 staff nanaman ang aalis, hindi sa dahil sinibak kundi sa toxic environment sila ang umalis.

Tiis lang muna. Nagsisimula na mag open mga market dito. Makakahanap din kyo ng magandang work at environment! All the best! Keep praying po!

crankygrinch

Hmm kinakabahan tuloy ako haha. Di pa ako nakaranas na magwork abroad. Puro business trip lang. I have been to melbourne once and the people at the host company were all nice to me.
Kung makakaranas ako masabihan ng f-word sa new workplace baka mamura ko rin sya 😅😅😅

Captain_A

@crankygrinch said:
Hmm kinakabahan tuloy ako haha. Di pa ako nakaranas na magwork abroad. Puro business trip lang. I have been to melbourne once and the people at the host company were all nice to me.
Kung makakaranas ako masabihan ng f-word sa new workplace baka mamura ko rin sya 😅😅😅

Dont worry, most of Aussies naman are nice..

xiaolico

@crankygrinch said:
Hmm kinakabahan tuloy ako haha. Di pa ako nakaranas na magwork abroad. Puro business trip lang. I have been to melbourne once and the people at the host company were all nice to me.
Kung makakaranas ako masabihan ng f-word sa new workplace baka mamura ko rin sya 😅😅😅

This is my opinion ha. Nasa NSW ako. IT industry ako. I still say Mas madali maghanap ng work dito kaysa sa pinas. Mas madali mag resign dito kasi malaki chance makahanap ka agad ng ibang work. Kahit Saan naman May loko loko na boss. If may tiwala ka sa resume mo, Madali naman makakuha ng interview dito. So wag ka kabahan. And if mangyari sa yo yan, agree ako sa yo, murahin mo din. Kahit ako, yun gagawin ko . Hindi lang mainit job market now dahil sa pandemic, Pero in my opinion, Mas nakakatakot mag resign sa pinas. Dito, 2 months siguro, meron at meron ka mahahanap na at least kapantay ng suweldo na iniwan mo if ever.

crankygrinch

@xiaolico said:

@crankygrinch said:
Hmm kinakabahan tuloy ako haha. Di pa ako nakaranas na magwork abroad. Puro business trip lang. I have been to melbourne once and the people at the host company were all nice to me.
Kung makakaranas ako masabihan ng f-word sa new workplace baka mamura ko rin sya 😅😅😅

This is my opinion ha. Nasa NSW ako. IT industry ako. I still say Mas madali maghanap ng work dito kaysa sa pinas. Mas madali mag resign dito kasi malaki chance makahanap ka agad ng ibang work. Kahit Saan naman May loko loko na boss. If may tiwala ka sa resume mo, Madali naman makakuha ng interview dito. So wag ka kabahan. And if mangyari sa yo yan, agree ako sa yo, murahin mo din. Kahit ako, yun gagawin ko . Hindi lang mainit job market now dahil sa pandemic, Pero in my opinion, Mas nakakatakot mag resign sa pinas. Dito, 2 months siguro, meron at meron ka mahahanap na at least kapantay ng suweldo na iniwan mo if ever.

Wow thanks! Nabawasan ang worry ko ng konti hehe. My husband and I are both in the IT industry. More on Analyst developer sya tapos ako Systems Analyst.

Rej1019

Keri lang yan guys, na-timingan nio lang cguro ung ganyang boss, same sa dati kong work dito sg parang martial law pag anjan ung boss lakas sumigaw tsaka magmura natatakot nga kmi baka atakihin bumukagta nalang lolz, but on a serious note madami naman ako natutunan sa work tsaka thru God's grace nakalipat naman sa ibang company na may sobrang peaceful na working environment at napakakalmadong boss. Kaya aun kaya nio yan lalo PR na kau 😄👍

xiaolico

@crankygrinch said:

@xiaolico said:

@crankygrinch said:
Hmm kinakabahan tuloy ako haha. Di pa ako nakaranas na magwork abroad. Puro business trip lang. I have been to melbourne once and the people at the host company were all nice to me.
Kung makakaranas ako masabihan ng f-word sa new workplace baka mamura ko rin sya 😅😅😅

This is my opinion ha. Nasa NSW ako. IT industry ako. I still say Mas madali maghanap ng work dito kaysa sa pinas. Mas madali mag resign dito kasi malaki chance makahanap ka agad ng ibang work. Kahit Saan naman May loko loko na boss. If may tiwala ka sa resume mo, Madali naman makakuha ng interview dito. So wag ka kabahan. And if mangyari sa yo yan, agree ako sa yo, murahin mo din. Kahit ako, yun gagawin ko . Hindi lang mainit job market now dahil sa pandemic, Pero in my opinion, Mas nakakatakot mag resign sa pinas. Dito, 2 months siguro, meron at meron ka mahahanap na at least kapantay ng suweldo na iniwan mo if ever.

Wow thanks! Nabawasan ang worry ko ng konti hehe. My husband and I are both in the IT industry. More on Analyst developer sya tapos ako Systems Analyst.

Yeah, malaki chance na you will be fine. Of course walang guarantees, Pero good gamble yan. Siguro yung una job Baka might take longer than expected kasi wala kayo local experience sa resume niyo. Pero maka chamba kayo ng isang interview, I’m sure makukuha kayo nun. Then afterwards, you don’t even have to wait for a year, look for a job na with a better salary and more in line sa background niyo. Suggestion ko lang, let us say nagmamadali talaga kayo mag hanap ng job, kagatin niyo yung Medyo in line pa din sa back ground niyo. Para pag nag hanap na kayo ng job na fit sa background niyo, related pa din yung first job niyo sa au. Kunyari mag call centre kayo, mag tech support kayo. If mag retail kayo, hanap kayo yung Medyo computer related. If you are not in a rush naman dahil May enough ipon kayo, mga 2 levels down siguro Kung anong level ka sa pinas, makukuha niyo yan. And if walang mangyari, puwede naman umuwi. At most you lose a year. Pero ako personally I think, 2-3 months, malabo Di kayo maka hanap ng IT job. Good luck again

engineer20

@ali0522 iba talaga ang working environment sa PH compared sa abroad. dito sa AU medyo iba din pag family business lalo na middle eastern owners/bosses kasi medyo vocal sila or minsan talagang nagdadabog pa pag may topak. kaya ok pag nakapasok ka sa corporate ang business structure at mas lalo ng ok kung sa government entity.

hindi ko naman sinasabing balewalain mo yung mga F-word ng amo nyo pero napaka normal kasi nun marinig sa lahi nila lalo na nasa construction business. as long na hindi directly personal ang pagkakasabi sa tingin ko way of expressing his frustration na lang yun. pero syempre it makes your working environment unhealthy at iba pa rin talaga ang feeling nung at ease ka sa work.

here is the link ng site wherein you can check kung may workplace violation na nangyayari sa inyo:

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/employee-entitlements/bullying-and-harassment

goodluck sa jobunting, hopefully next employer nyo ay maging ok na para maging all good na.

Ed510

Grabe naman at powerful ng support group nato.

cutiepie25

Kinakabahan ako sa mga nababasa ko. Haha! Magisa lang po kasi ako na magmomove at napakabata ko pa, no relatives doon as in ako lang and single din. Buti nalang at may thread na ganito at least kahit papano may support group dito. sana swertihin sa first job doon in the future.

Ed510

@cutiepie25 said:
Kinakabahan ako sa mga nababasa ko. Haha! Magisa lang po kasi ako na magmomove at napakabata ko pa, no relatives doon as in ako lang and single din. Buti nalang at may thread na ganito at least kahit papano may support group dito. sana swertihin sa first job doon in the future.

Hi @cutiepie25
Buti kapa Cutiepie kasi bata pa. Higher vitality pa.
Kaming mga older, hindi na kaya ang maraming trabaho. At super kayuda dahil sa physical limitation na.
hehehhe.
Pero Kakayanan for the future generation.

cutiepie25

@Ed510 said:

@cutiepie25 said:
Kinakabahan ako sa mga nababasa ko. Haha! Magisa lang po kasi ako na magmomove at napakabata ko pa, no relatives doon as in ako lang and single din. Buti nalang at may thread na ganito at least kahit papano may support group dito. sana swertihin sa first job doon in the future.

Hi @cutiepie25
Buti kapa Cutiepie kasi bata pa. Higher vitality pa.
Kaming mga older, hindi na kaya ang maraming trabaho. At super kayuda dahil sa physical limitation na.
hehehhe.
Pero Kakayanan for the future generation.

Thanks po Sir @Ed510! Ano pong industry kayo? IT po ako and natatakot ako sa mga nababasa ko hahahah paniguradong Indian ang mga makakasama ko sa work sureball na yan ) hahahaa

Ed510

@cutiepie25 said:

@Ed510 said:

@cutiepie25 said:
Kinakabahan ako sa mga nababasa ko. Haha! Magisa lang po kasi ako na magmomove at napakabata ko pa, no relatives doon as in ako lang and single din. Buti nalang at may thread na ganito at least kahit papano may support group dito. sana swertihin sa first job doon in the future.

Hi @cutiepie25
Buti kapa Cutiepie kasi bata pa. Higher vitality pa.
Kaming mga older, hindi na kaya ang maraming trabaho. At super kayuda dahil sa physical limitation na.
hehehhe.
Pero Kakayanan for the future generation.

Thanks po Sir @Ed510! Ano pong industry kayo? IT po ako and natatakot ako sa mga nababasa ko hahahah paniguradong Indian ang mga makakasama ko sa work sureball na yan ) hahahaa

@cutiepie25
Wala akong first hand information eh kasi nasa pinas pa ako. Waiting for my invitation.
From what I heard from my agent hindi daw affected ang engineering and IT industries sa pandemic. Yung mga nasa hospitality are morbidly affected. The International students were also affected sa mga jobs.
Pero month of july daw ok na ang mga International students. The hospitality industries are still badly affected until now. So meron tayong possible na work doon.

Indian are highly skilled and highly educated people. Ofcourse, they will consider pinoys as competitor kasi masipag tayo at mabait na tao.

athelene

@Ed510 said:
From what I heard from my agent hindi daw affected ang engineering and IT industries sa pandemic. Yung mga nasa hospitality are morbidly affected. The International students were also affected sa mga jobs.
Pero month of july daw ok na ang mga International students. The hospitality industries are still badly affected until now. So meron tayong possible na work doon.

It's Aug/Sep is hiring season for Christmas casual roles, so maybe things are indeed getting better for some, but I wouldn't say all. Some businesses have opened up in Sydney, including retail and hospitality (lots of Sydney's COVID hotspots are related to hospitality because restaurants and pubs have opened up).

Captain_A

@cutiepie25 said:
Kinakabahan ako sa mga nababasa ko. Haha! Magisa lang po kasi ako na magmomove at napakabata ko pa, no relatives doon as in ako lang and single din. Buti nalang at may thread na ganito at least kahit papano may support group dito. sana swertihin sa first job doon in the future.

all the best? which city?

Hunter_08

@cutiepie25 said:
Kinakabahan ako sa mga nababasa ko. Haha! Magisa lang po kasi ako na magmomove at napakabata ko pa, no relatives doon as in ako lang and single din. Buti nalang at may thread na ganito at least kahit papano may support group dito. sana swertihin sa first job doon in the future.

I moved here 2yrs ago, single, wala ding kamaganak or kilala dito but so it turn out okay naman.. with regards sa work I'm in IT industry din at ang masasabi ko hindi kasing dami ng openings before but marami pa din maski papano though syempre you have to be competitive din para mapansin ka dito.. advice ko lang din sa mga pupunta pa lang dito na wag maging mapili muna sa work ang importante makakuha ng local experience at wag maubos ang pocket money. Ano pala field mo sa IT?

lccnsrsnn

@cutiepie25 said:
Kinakabahan ako sa mga nababasa ko. Haha! Magisa lang po kasi ako na magmomove at napakabata ko pa, no relatives doon as in ako lang and single din. Buti nalang at may thread na ganito at least kahit papano may support group dito. sana swertihin sa first job doon in the future.

I moved here in Adelaide 2 years ago. IT ako, Software Quality Assurance. I've worked with 2 Indians before, okay naman sila (dalawang babae), medyo competitive pero competitive din kasi ako so di ako affected hahahaha! Wala akong bad experience sa work. Just show them what you can offer. Best of luck!

baiken

same here, IT industry po, Network Engineer, and have worked with lots of other nationalities...

we as Filipino's definitely stand out because of our work ethics and values

don't be afraid, believe that you can do things lalo na po masisipag tayo at willing to learn always ang mentality!

you can do it!!!

all the best po sa job hunting!!!

PS.
daming jobs ang nag-offer pa din via Facebook kahit during this pandemic for my role which is good i guess...

Ed510

@baiken said:
same here, IT industry po, Network Engineer, and have worked with lots of other nationalities...

we as Filipino's definitely stand out because of our work ethics and values

don't be afraid, believe that you can do things lalo na po masisipag tayo at willing to learn always ang mentality!

you can do it!!!

all the best po sa job hunting!!!

PS.
daming jobs ang nag-offer pa din via Facebook kahit during this pandemic for my role which is good i guess...

Hello @baiken
Ano po yung facebook group na pwede kaming maka-check sa hirings?
Please share naman po.
Hindi po ako IT related pero baka maka-pasok ako sa job opportunities.

baiken

@Ed510 said:

@baiken said:
same here, IT industry po, Network Engineer, and have worked with lots of other nationalities...

we as Filipino's definitely stand out because of our work ethics and values

don't be afraid, believe that you can do things lalo na po masisipag tayo at willing to learn always ang mentality!

you can do it!!!

all the best po sa job hunting!!!

PS.
daming jobs ang nag-offer pa din via Facebook kahit during this pandemic for my role which is good i guess...

Hello @baiken
Ano po yung facebook group na pwede kaming maka-check sa hirings?
Please share naman po.
Hindi po ako IT related pero baka maka-pasok ako sa job opportunities.

hmm... nagulat nga ako meron na ding jobads si facebook, before sa pinas, jobstreet at jobsad yung mga alam ko na recruitment sites ><

sa mismong facebook ko lang lumalabas feeds e, eto itsura:

maybe it has something to do with my current location na updated on facebook being here in AU, tinry ko po hanapin yung hiring po sa job code nyo (ayaw ng Electronics Engineer, nilagay ko is Electrical Engineer):