Australia New Prime Minister Tony Abbott of Liberal/National Coalition Party

TotoyOZresident

Liberal/National Coalition Party wins
New Prime Minister Tony Abbott in 3 years term.
\:D/ Very Important topic: What is your thought in the new government.

TasBurrfoot

Liberals Party wins
New Prime Minister Tony Abott.
\:D/ What is your thought.

To be honest, we don't know too much the issues but it is always good to have changes in the government...

Rubled22

My auntie thinks Australia is going downhill now that Abott won. I've heard a lot of bad things about Abott, can you please enumerate the positives of him being PM?

JCsantos

Abbot did not winbecause he is better, its just that labor is in chaos, actually they have all the good policy

JCsantos

Good bye fiber to home!

nfronda

Abbot will cut schoolkids bonus..

TasBurrfoot

My auntie thinks Australia is going downhill now that Abott won. I've heard a lot of bad things about Abott, can you please enumerate the positives of him being PM?

Hi @Rubled22, since you are asking for the positives; may we please ask you to share the negatives since you heard it first hand from your auntie?

icebreaker1928

oo nga, share naman dyan ng positive at negative... kasi kaming mga bagong salta dito noob pa sa politics ng oz

Obi

Agree with @TasBurrfoot. Can you share us the negatives your aunt told you @Rubled22?

Ang alam ko lang ay kinakain ni Kevin Rudd yung tutuleh nya.

Nadine

Most of the healthcare professionals I work with are not very optimistic about Abbott. Sabi nga nung ibang older nurses kaninang umaga sa ward: "here we go again!".

Ang problema ngayon kasi he is pressured by the very people who is supporting him. Eto yung mga employers and retail businesses na gusto scrap ang penal rates for overtime and weekend/holidays. Guess sino kawawa? Syempre, ang simpleng manggagawa who actually has to work sundays and holidays, to make ends meet. With present overtime rates, you can receive up to 250% of your base pay kasi. Pag yun nawala, ang laking bawas sa earnings. Pero ang laking savings ng mga businesses.

Another is his paternity leave. Ok sana to. Kaso lang, may plan pala syang pagbabago sa maternity leave na ang mag benefit are those earning >150k annually. Naku, sino lang ba sa atin ang ganyan ang kinikita? Taas kamay.

Tsaka, ewan ko ba, I don't have a very good impression of him when I first heard his interview. I really hope he proves to be better than that interview. Kasi he came off like... almost racist, really.

On the upside, he will probably be earning millions (or maybe bilions) for australia. But that will mean he has to cut jobs, cut on a lot of benefits. Si Kevin Rudd kasi, spends a lot. Kaya inaayawan na labour. But I'm thinking (and correct me guys if I'm wrong), if yung spending is going to healthcare, infrastructure, jobs, then it's ok right.

At least Abbott and Rudd, are both anti-boat people.

TotoyOZresident

Liberals Party wins
New Prime Minister Tony Abbott.
\:D/ What is your thought.

To be honest, we don't know too much the issues but it is always good to have changes in the government...

Its my first to vote napaka dali lang bumoto dito. Ayon sa history ng Australia Politics ang Liberal/National coalition Party ang nagiipon ng budget. Ang labor party naman ang gumagastos ng husto sa naipon ng previous Party na pinalitan nila. In my opionion balance Government ang Australia. Katulad noon Liberal party ang PM John Howard from 1996 to 2007 then tinalo ng Labor Party ang pumalit si PM Kevin Rudd after 3 years nanalo ulit ang Labor Party ang PM si Julia Gillard from 2010 to 2013. Lately nag change ng lider ang Labor Party si Kevin Rudd ulit ang pumalit for Prime Minister. After the election yesterday at 6pm mga 11pm alam na agad kung sino ang nanalong Prime Mister yun ay si Tony Abbott. Syanga pala ang pag vote dito ay kung alin ang maraming votes na Party list yun ang panalo. Any Party or Grouping thats wins 76 seats or more in House of representatives could form government in their own right. Liberal/national coalition party wins 86 seats while Labor party wins 57 seats. May balance of power pa rin ang Australia goverment mayrun accountability. Yung lider ng nanalong Party List yung ang magiging Prime Minister. Kaya daw natalo ang Labor Party kasi overspending with poor planning sa budget baka magkaroon ng budget deficit ang Australia kung magtuloy tuloy. I reckon this new government are good in Australia economy.

source:
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/

Ito yung major policies ng Coalition liberal party
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151882671417464&set=a.173321122463.160263.13561467463&type=1&permPage=1

Paki-correct nyo na lang ako kung mali ang explanation ko. Thanks cheers

TotoyOZresident

Most of the healthcare professionals I work with are not very optimistic about Abbott. Sabi nga nung ibang older nurses kaninang umaga sa ward: "here we go again!".

Ang problema ngayon kasi he is pressured by the very people who is supporting him. Eto yung mga employers and retail businesses na gusto scrap ang penal rates for overtime and weekend/holidays. Guess sino kawawa? Syempre, ang simpleng manggagawa who actually has to work sundays and holidays, to make ends meet. With present overtime rates, you can receive up to 250% of your base pay kasi. Pag yun nawala, ang laking bawas sa earnings. Pero ang laking savings ng mga businesses.

Another is his paternity leave. Ok sana to. Kaso lang, may plan pala syang pagbabago sa maternity leave na ang mag benefit are those earning >150k annually. Naku, sino lang ba sa atin ang ganyan ang kinikita? Taas kamay.

Tsaka, ewan ko ba, I don't have a very good impression of him when I first heard his interview. I really hope he proves to be better than that interview. Kasi he came off like... almost racist, really.

On the upside, he will probably be earning millions (or maybe bilions) for australia. But that will mean he has to cut jobs, cut on a lot of benefits. Si Kevin Rudd kasi, spends a lot. Kaya inaayawan na labour. But I'm thinking (and correct me guys if I'm wrong), if yung spending is going to healthcare, infrastructure, jobs, then it's ok right.

At least Abbott and Rudd, are both anti-boat people.

Syempre kung anu ang policies ng new government yun ang priorities. Means may mga government department talaga na maapektuhan. But I reckon everything will be alright. Let see by next year January or february kung Gaganda ulit ang economy ng Australia. Staka kung nandito kana mas madali na para sa iyo to apply ng PR basta sundin mo ang tamang proseso.

ito pala ang ang major policies ng coalition:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151882671417464&set=a.173321122463.160263.13561467463&type=1&permPage=1

cheers

btarroja213

Hi, is the new government going to be anti or pro immigration? How will this affect current and future PR applicant and aspirants?

TotoyOZresident

Hi, is the new government going to be anti or pro immigration? How will this affect current and future PR applicant and aspirants?

Hi btarroja213

The new government is not anti immigration. Australia needs migrant especially for those highly skilled. I reckon the effect is may konting higpit or may konting amendment ang process or sistema ng immigration. Every year naman may amendment ang policies ng immigration sa bawat visa. Basta kung nasa listahan ang skills ninyo, pasok kayo sa points system ng skilled ninyo at naipasa ninyo ang IELTS requirements theres nothing to worry about. Basta sundin ninyo ang tamang proseso. Baka may mga specific number of applicants na puede nila tanggapin every year. But this is only my opinion lets see by November this year. cheers

Nadine

Bossing, hello po.

Magkaiba man tayo ng opinyon, tingin ko this is nevertheless a healthy discussion. It just means may pakialam tayo sa bansang to, na bumubuhay sa atin sa kasalukuyan.

Eto po... I support the Greens! Gusto ko plataporma nila. Concrete yung sinasabi nila, tsaka transparent sila. Sana nga they get enough seats in the parliament to preserve the balance of power!

TotoyOZresident

Bossing, hello po.

Magkaiba man tayo ng opinyon, tingin ko this is nevertheless a healthy discussion. It just means may pakialam tayo sa bansang to, na bumubuhay sa atin sa kasalukuyan.

Eto po... I support the Greens! Gusto ko plataporma nila. Concrete yung sinasabi nila, tsaka transparent sila. Sana nga they get enough seats in the parliament to preserve the balance of power!

I don't support Green party kasi madaming christian values that they don't support
Link: http://www.christianvalues.org.au/index.php/checklists/current-elections?utm_source=Federal+Election+-+Christian+Values+Checklist&utm_campaign=SSM+Parliamentary+Enquiries&utm_medium=email

Pero ayus yun maganda rin yung may pro and con sa pagimplement ng batas. Thats the democratic country Mayrun accountability para may balance of power sa government.

cheers

StickyNote

Abbot did not winbecause he is better, its just that labor is in chaos, actually they have all the good policy

agree!

Nadine

@TotoyOZresident

more of economic and environmental thrust talaga po yata ang Greens. Hindi yata talaga sila focused on any religious or Christian issues eh. Which to me, may not necessarily be a bad thing. Iba lang talaga focus nila.

Admittedly, mahirap talaga pag religion and politics na ang usapan. Iba-iba opinions, and not one may be wrong. Also, a lot of political issues run counter to what we believe in as Catholics (or Christians).

Nadine

*double post*

JCsantos

Eto po... I support the Greens! Gusto ko plataporma nila. Concrete yung sinasabi nila, tsaka transparent sila. Sana nga they get enough seats in the parliament to preserve the balance of power!

i reckon Sayang lang ang boto mo sa greens ... sorry no pun intended ...

if you want to make a change either vote one of the 2 major parties .. anyway it worked during the 2010 election wherein there was a hung parliament .. and the independents together with the greens made the government

Nadine

Gets ko Sir JC. At may point kayo dyan.

Naisip ko lang, dahil andami seats ng Lib. So with ALP + Greens, enough yun to contradict the coalition? Not sure about this though.

TotoyOZresident

Gets ko Sir JC. At may point kayo dyan.

Naisip ko lang, dahil andami seats ng Lib. So with ALP + Greens, enough yun to contradict the coalition? Not sure about this though.

86 seat for Liberal/national coalition party
64 seat total Labor and other political parties.
Balance of power pa rin sa government

Link: http://vtr.aec.gov.au/

Rubled22

Negatives accdg to my auntie:

1. Work choices will be implemented again. Sa paka explain sa akin, the companies will have more power over the employee but I think its more proper for those na matagal na dito sa Au to elaborate on this.

2. Wala daw new infrastructure under Abott. Example, NBN halt.

3. Although maganda ang budget savings, but Abott will get the savings from cost cutting. Example, NBN, 12k gov't jobs gone, private healthcare insurance rebate na 30% wala na and some more.. Jan nya kukunin majority ng savings nya.. As opposed daw kay Rudd na tinatax nya ng malaki ang mga mining firms and next daw ang mga financial institutions kaso natalo so happy big companies.

4. And sinungaling daw, may anak sa labas, not dependable etch. Tanong ni tita, ok lang ba sayu ganyan character ng leader mo?

Enumerated by my auntie. Sa mga mas may alam, kindly elaborate please..

JCsantos

The planned high speed railway will also be delayed

Obi

So ano lang daw po yung mga plano nya sa mga mase-save nila?

stolich18

agree with @totoyOzresident's comments about Labor and Liberal. According to my friend na 6 years na dito, eto mga comment ng relatives nya and officemates about Rudd and Abbott (or about labor and liberal):

Labor:
"Sila nagpataas ng lahat ng bilihin saka ng immigration fees. last yr alone, 2x tumaas, and tataas pa sa october. sila din nag cut ng SOL fr 300plus occupations to 100plus. Papasok ang carbon tax pag nanalo sila.

During Howard's time (Liberal), madaming cash overflow ang Au kaya nung naupo si kevin rudd, namigay ng namigay. ngayon ubos na kaya puro taxes at tataas pa lalo ang taxes dahil sa carbon at telecoms taxes na naiisip nila. walang nagawa yan nung umupo kaya napalitan ni gillard.

Saka Kevin Rudd is not for immigrants. Tony Abbott is. Hindi tayo poprotektahan ni Rudd. Kinut na nung time niya yung benefits for skilled people. Noon, may allowance ang migrants habang wala pang nahahanap na work. Inalis yun during his time, tapos nag increase at naghigpit lahat. Si Abott madaming kasama sa partido na migrants. Pantay ang tingin niya. Si Rudd madaming naiisip yan na out of pocket taxes from skilled people. hehehe

mga officemates kong aussie ayaw na kay rudd kaya kay abbott na boto nila.

Noon si Kevin Rudd binoto nila ate. Nung naupo, daming prices nagtaas, budget cuts ng benefits, walang naramdaman na balik, higher taxes pa, kaya nadala sila. Liberal na daw ngayon iboboto nila. hahaha. Saka pansinin mo yung advertisements ng labor against liberal. ang dami, pati sa M2. Mas madami silang perang nilulustay. Si Abbott, bihira mo makita mga adverts niya against labor. "


Dati raw si Rudd pa binoto ng kapatid nya. Eh after daw iboto wala naman daw nagawa for Australia. Yung officemate ko dito na citizen na rin, sabi nya kelangan daw tlga ng balance ng Australia. After Labor, dapat liberal naman para madagdagan ulit ang reserves ng Au. Yun nga lang daw expect na marami tlgang cuts sa umpisa. Pero in the long-run daw, better for Au. Pansin ko lang nung debate nina Rudd and Abbott, mas magaling magsalita si Rudd hehehe Perhaps kase ilang beses na sya naging PM? Mas gusto rin sya ng mga taong nasa Trade.

Oh well let's hope for the best na gagawin ni Abbott ang mga tamang decisions now that he is the PM.

JCsantos

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During Howard's time (Liberal), madaming cash overflow ang Au kaya nung naupo si kevin rudd, namigay ng namigay. ngayon ubos na kaya puro taxes at tataas pa lalo ang taxes dahil sa carbon at telecoms taxes na naiisip nila. walang nagawa yan nung umupo kaya napalitan ni gillard.

if you are pertaining telecoms tax = NBN .. you are misinformed ... the NBN is a business that would return a 7% ROI ... and same as starting up a business you need capital ...

And as Immigration Fees are concern it is good for Australian and bad for Migrants ... For me being a australian already Im in favor of it ... instead of taxes to fund it better to have it shouldered to the migrant

stolich18

i agree with the immi fees kase every year or so tumataas naman tlg sya and yes hindi sya favorable for aspiring new migrants..

for nbn, thanks for the correction/information. di rin ako aware about it. :-)

by the way hindi pa naman din ako bumoto this year, pr pa lang din ako heheh eto lang ung mga nashare skn ng mga kakilala ko na pinoy and hindi pinoy :-) kelangan tlg magresearch at pag-aralan esp pag next time na kelangan na bumoto :-)

JCsantos

some times I hate political debate .. i guess its a un-winnable debate ... its like the saying "in the eye of the beholder" ... it depends on every individual on how they think the party is good for him/her or not hehehe

KurikongSaTumbong

@TotoyOZresident

more of economic and environmental thrust talaga po yata ang Greens. Hindi yata talaga sila focused on any religious or Christian issues eh. Which to me, may not necessarily be a bad thing. Iba lang talaga focus nila.

Admittedly, mahirap talaga pag religion and politics na ang usapan. Iba-iba opinions, and not one may be wrong. Also, a lot of political issues run counter to what we believe in as Catholics (or Christians).

Tama yan. pag pumapel na religion sa pagpapalakad ng bansa eh magkakaleche leche na. Nawawala na ang practical at common sense aspect at nahahaluan na ng mga supernatural at obsolete beliefs/practices. Kaya mapapansin nyo siguro na lahat ng mauunlad na bansa eh secular.

JCsantos

I don't quite get how they vote for the senators but news said that liberals don't hold majority of senate and neither labor .. so there still a balance in power ....