Claiming of deducted work experience from assessing authority?

lyrre

Hello,

May nakapag try ba mag claim ng deducted experience from the assessing authority? May nagsasabi kasi na pwede daw and even migration agents advised so, as long as may evidence for the employment daw. Kaso sabi ng iba may narereject daw. 5 points difference din kasi siya for me.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

jmcounters

Hi, refer to page 11, 10.4.1

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/foi/files/2020/fa-200601127-document-released.pdf

Skills assessment is only ONE of several factors considered when claiming points for your skilled employment.

I claimed points din from the deducted experience pero not with NSW since part of their guideline explicitly indicates that skilled experience should be after the date you are deemed skilled by the assessing body. That's why I have more points for 189 and 190 for VIC compared to 190 for NSW.

I also saw several people who claimed these experiences that already got their grant.

lyrre

@jmcounters said:
Hi, refer to page 11, 10.4.1

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/foi/files/2020/fa-200601127-document-released.pdf

Skills assessment is only ONE of several factors considered when claiming points for your skilled employment.

I claimed points din from the deducted experience pero not with NSW since part of their guideline explicitly indicates that skilled experience should be after the date you are deemed skilled by the assessing body. That's why I have more points for 189 and 190 for VIC compared to 190 for NSW.

I also saw several people who claimed these experiences that already got their grant.

Hi,

Yes, yun nga din narinig ko na strict s a NSW. Pero VIC ang application ko. Na grant na po ba kayo?

jmcounters

@lyrre said:

@jmcounters said:
Hi, refer to page 11, 10.4.1

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/foi/files/2020/fa-200601127-document-released.pdf

Skills assessment is only ONE of several factors considered when claiming points for your skilled employment.

I claimed points din from the deducted experience pero not with NSW since part of their guideline explicitly indicates that skilled experience should be after the date you are deemed skilled by the assessing body. That's why I have more points for 189 and 190 for VIC compared to 190 for NSW.

I also saw several people who claimed these experiences that already got their grant.

Hi,

Yes, yun nga din narinig ko na strict s a NSW. Pero VIC ang application ko. Na grant na po ba kayo?

No pa, waiting for the grant

lyrre

@jmcounters said:

@lyrre said:

@jmcounters said:
Hi, refer to page 11, 10.4.1

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/foi/files/2020/fa-200601127-document-released.pdf

Skills assessment is only ONE of several factors considered when claiming points for your skilled employment.

I claimed points din from the deducted experience pero not with NSW since part of their guideline explicitly indicates that skilled experience should be after the date you are deemed skilled by the assessing body. That's why I have more points for 189 and 190 for VIC compared to 190 for NSW.

I also saw several people who claimed these experiences that already got their grant.

Hi,

Yes, yun nga din narinig ko na strict s a NSW. Pero VIC ang application ko. Na grant na po ba kayo?

No pa, waiting for the grant

saang state po kayo na-invite? What do you think about sa ibang nagsasabi na marereject daw?

jmcounters

@lyrre said:

@jmcounters said:

@lyrre said:

@jmcounters said:
Hi, refer to page 11, 10.4.1

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/foi/files/2020/fa-200601127-document-released.pdf

Skills assessment is only ONE of several factors considered when claiming points for your skilled employment.

I claimed points din from the deducted experience pero not with NSW since part of their guideline explicitly indicates that skilled experience should be after the date you are deemed skilled by the assessing body. That's why I have more points for 189 and 190 for VIC compared to 190 for NSW.

I also saw several people who claimed these experiences that already got their grant.

Hi,

Yes, yun nga din narinig ko na strict s a NSW. Pero VIC ang application ko. Na grant na po ba kayo?

No pa, waiting for the grant

saang state po kayo na-invite? What do you think about sa ibang nagsasabi na marereject daw?

Sa Victoria. For those na adamant, I think the fear is valid. Migration is a major life move. Pero there's the guideline from DHA, people na nagrant na rin with this, as well as my agent's opinion on this, so to me that's enough proof. Also, I have a money-back guarantee with Respall should my application get denied because of their advise, so the risk is less with me, as far as this bit is concerned.

By the way, IT professional din yung nakita ko na nagrant at dito rin somewhere sa forum yon, di ko lang mahanap. hehehe

lyrre

both 189 at 190 nag claim po kayo ng deducted exp? 4 years kasi deduction sakin kahit na major in computing at closely related yung mga experience ko, kaya iniisip ko if dapat ba ko mag appeal or hindi if pwede naman pala iclaim...anong anzsco code niyo po at points breakdown? sorry dami ko tanong hehe.. actually plan ko nga sana magpa consult sa respall about it..

jmcounters

@lyrre said:
both 189 at 190 nag claim po kayo ng deducted exp? 4 years kasi deduction sakin kahit na major in computing at closely related yung mga experience ko, kaya iniisip ko if dapat ba ko mag appeal or hindi if pwede naman pala iclaim...anong anzsco code niyo po at points breakdown? sorry dami ko tanong hehe.. actually plan ko nga sana magpa consult sa respall about it..

189 and 190 for VIC, sa NSW kasi nasa guideline talaga na dapat after the date deemed skilled.

262112 IT Security Specialist ako
Age: 30
Education: 15
English: 20
Work Experience: 10
Single: 10

Bale 85 for 189, 80 for NSW tapos 90 for VIC.

Ako kasi, ECE graduate ako sa section 1 school pero 6 years dineduct sakin dahil minor in computing ang lumabas. Kaya nagworry din ako pero sobrang chill lang ni Respall. HAHAHA. Panic ako talaga pag wala sila, lagi nila ako napapakalma. IDK why pero maybe dahil din sa occupation ko? Malayo masyado sa school units?

lyrre

bali okay lang daw i claim yung 6 years deducted as per Respall basta sa VIC?? yung mga nakikita ko kasing nagcclaim is 2 years lang deduction, tapos 4 years sakin

kldo1591

@lyrre said:
bali okay lang daw i claim yung 6 years deducted as per Respall basta sa VIC?? yung mga nakikita ko kasing nagcclaim is 2 years lang deduction, tapos 4 years sakin

If you are still doubtful why not consult an agent now, not try or plan lang kasi risky yan. If you consult aregisterd agent and they are reputable naman, they have valid experienced based information kaya un ang binabayaran mo. Para din di ka na masyado mag anxiety and dumepende sa "DAW" na word ..

Just saying here kasi ikaw din mag suffer eventually sa visa application if you get wrong or doubtful information.

mathilde9

Or file re-appeal with ACS making sure maa-address probable reason behind that 4yrs deduction (if there is any) from previous assessment.

Note that Respall doesn't charge ala carte or per step consultation. They charge for the whole package regardless of what step you have already completed. I inquired with them before Q3 of 2023) and I can provide their response if needed.

If money isn't a problem, go for an agent to do it for you. If being practical is an option and you are firm that you deserve that addl 4 or 2 yrs credited, file for ACS re-appeal yourself. Minsan nga kasi nagkakamali din ang assessing officer.

lyrre

@mathilde9 said:
Or file re-appeal with ACS making sure maa-address probable reason behind that 4yrs deduction (if there is any) from previous assessment.

Note that Respall doesn't charge ala carte or per step consultation. They charge for the whole package regardless of what step you have already completed. I inquired with them before Q3 of 2023) and I can provide their response if needed.

If money isn't a problem, go for an agent to do it for you. If being practical is an option and you are firm that you deserve that addl 4 or 2 yrs credited, file for ACS re-appeal yourself. Minsan nga kasi nagkakamali din ang assessing officer.

actually, nagdown na kami ng 1k for the consultation pero that was before pa when we were planning to avail their whole package. kaso nagbago isip namin and we proceeded na mag DIY..

Right now, nag seek muna kami ng explanation from ACS about the result.

mathilde9

@lyrre said:
actually, nagdown na kami ng 1k for the consultation pero that was before pa when we were planning to avail their whole package. kaso nagbago isip namin and we proceeded na mag DIY..

Right now, nag seek muna kami ng explanation from ACS about the result.

Yup that 1k peso is just for the a generic high-level consultation with them to assess possible score you can earn. Hope ACS will address your concern. Goodluck!

Ozdrims

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

lyrre

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

lyrre

@jmcounters said:

@lyrre said:
both 189 at 190 nag claim po kayo ng deducted exp? 4 years kasi deduction sakin kahit na major in computing at closely related yung mga experience ko, kaya iniisip ko if dapat ba ko mag appeal or hindi if pwede naman pala iclaim...anong anzsco code niyo po at points breakdown? sorry dami ko tanong hehe.. actually plan ko nga sana magpa consult sa respall about it..

189 and 190 for VIC, sa NSW kasi nasa guideline talaga na dapat after the date deemed skilled.

262112 IT Security Specialist ako
Age: 30
Education: 15
English: 20
Work Experience: 10
Single: 10

Bale 85 for 189, 80 for NSW tapos 90 for VIC.

Ako kasi, ECE graduate ako sa section 1 school pero 6 years dineduct sakin dahil minor in computing ang lumabas. Kaya nagworry din ako pero sobrang chill lang ni Respall. HAHAHA. Panic ako talaga pag wala sila, lagi nila ako napapakalma. IDK why pero maybe dahil din sa occupation ko? Malayo masyado sa school units?

Nagpa consult ako sa Respall, and sabi okay daw to claim for 189 lang regardless of state. Pero sabi sayo okay for 189 and 190 for VIC?

teejaybow

@lyrre said:

@jmcounters said:

@lyrre said:
both 189 at 190 nag claim po kayo ng deducted exp? 4 years kasi deduction sakin kahit na major in computing at closely related yung mga experience ko, kaya iniisip ko if dapat ba ko mag appeal or hindi if pwede naman pala iclaim...anong anzsco code niyo po at points breakdown? sorry dami ko tanong hehe.. actually plan ko nga sana magpa consult sa respall about it..

189 and 190 for VIC, sa NSW kasi nasa guideline talaga na dapat after the date deemed skilled.

262112 IT Security Specialist ako
Age: 30
Education: 15
English: 20
Work Experience: 10
Single: 10

Bale 85 for 189, 80 for NSW tapos 90 for VIC.

Ako kasi, ECE graduate ako sa section 1 school pero 6 years dineduct sakin dahil minor in computing ang lumabas. Kaya nagworry din ako pero sobrang chill lang ni Respall. HAHAHA. Panic ako talaga pag wala sila, lagi nila ako napapakalma. IDK why pero maybe dahil din sa occupation ko? Malayo masyado sa school units?

Nagpa consult ako sa Respall, and sabi okay daw to claim for 189 lang regardless of state. Pero sabi sayo okay for 189 and 190 for VIC?

Hi Lyrre,

Nagreply na yung ACS about sa inquiry mo bat 4 years na deduct sayo? DM pala din ako sayo

jmcounters

@lyrre said:

@jmcounters said:

@lyrre said:
both 189 at 190 nag claim po kayo ng deducted exp? 4 years kasi deduction sakin kahit na major in computing at closely related yung mga experience ko, kaya iniisip ko if dapat ba ko mag appeal or hindi if pwede naman pala iclaim...anong anzsco code niyo po at points breakdown? sorry dami ko tanong hehe.. actually plan ko nga sana magpa consult sa respall about it..

189 and 190 for VIC, sa NSW kasi nasa guideline talaga na dapat after the date deemed skilled.

262112 IT Security Specialist ako
Age: 30
Education: 15
English: 20
Work Experience: 10
Single: 10

Bale 85 for 189, 80 for NSW tapos 90 for VIC.

Ako kasi, ECE graduate ako sa section 1 school pero 6 years dineduct sakin dahil minor in computing ang lumabas. Kaya nagworry din ako pero sobrang chill lang ni Respall. HAHAHA. Panic ako talaga pag wala sila, lagi nila ako napapakalma. IDK why pero maybe dahil din sa occupation ko? Malayo masyado sa school units?

Nagpa consult ako sa Respall, and sabi okay daw to claim for 189 lang regardless of state. Pero sabi sayo okay for 189 and 190 for VIC?

Yes. I'm currently waiting for a grant for 190 kasi na-approve naman nomination ko sa VIC. Basta hindi kami nag claim sa NSW because of their guideline. Did you ask for 190 specifically?

RheaMARN1171933

@lyrre said:

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

What exactly are you confused about?

lyrre

@jmcounters said:

@lyrre said:

@jmcounters said:

@lyrre said:
both 189 at 190 nag claim po kayo ng deducted exp? 4 years kasi deduction sakin kahit na major in computing at closely related yung mga experience ko, kaya iniisip ko if dapat ba ko mag appeal or hindi if pwede naman pala iclaim...anong anzsco code niyo po at points breakdown? sorry dami ko tanong hehe.. actually plan ko nga sana magpa consult sa respall about it..

189 and 190 for VIC, sa NSW kasi nasa guideline talaga na dapat after the date deemed skilled.

262112 IT Security Specialist ako
Age: 30
Education: 15
English: 20
Work Experience: 10
Single: 10

Bale 85 for 189, 80 for NSW tapos 90 for VIC.

Ako kasi, ECE graduate ako sa section 1 school pero 6 years dineduct sakin dahil minor in computing ang lumabas. Kaya nagworry din ako pero sobrang chill lang ni Respall. HAHAHA. Panic ako talaga pag wala sila, lagi nila ako napapakalma. IDK why pero maybe dahil din sa occupation ko? Malayo masyado sa school units?

Nagpa consult ako sa Respall, and sabi okay daw to claim for 189 lang regardless of state. Pero sabi sayo okay for 189 and 190 for VIC?

Yes. I'm currently waiting for a grant for 190 kasi na-approve naman nomination ko sa VIC. Basta hindi kami nag claim sa NSW because of their guideline. Did you ask for 190 specifically?

Yes, 2x ko cinonfirm if bawal sa 190. tapos nag follow up message ako, and nag apologize siya at pwede nga daw pala sa 190 VIC

lyrre

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

What exactly are you confused about?

why am i deducted ng 4 years exp if comparable to bachelors yung qualification ko

RheaMARN1171933

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

What exactly are you confused about?

why am i deducted ng 4 years exp if comparable to bachelors yung qualification ko

Have you asked them why is that case?

lyrre

i did, wala pa ko response from them...still following up daily

jmrise

Hello, assessing through VETASSESS. I have read through some forums that VETASSESS deducts a year of experience to have a positive outcome. Say I have an actual 5 years of experience, and VETASSESS only includes say 4 years. Can I use 5 years in claiming points in my EOI? Thank you po.

Jacraye

@jmrise said:
Hello, assessing through VETASSESS. I have read through some forums that VETASSESS deducts a year of experience to have a positive outcome. Say I have an actual 5 years of experience, and VETASSESS only includes say 4 years. Can I use 5 years in claiming points in my EOI? Thank you po.

Only use information noted in your skills assessment result.

lyrre

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

What exactly are you confused about?

why am i deducted ng 4 years exp if comparable to bachelors yung qualification ko

Have you asked them why is that case?

got a reply from them. Here is the exact reply.

"Please note that the Bachelor of Science in Information Technology is a AQF bachelor’s degree with a Major in computing, however it is not closely related and that is the reason deduction of 4 years experience."

My nominated occupation is 263111 Computer Networks and System Engineer. It is so weird eh yung mga kilala ko na ang assessed sakanila is major in computing 2 years lang binawas... I even had a former colleague na same school at course kami.

RheaMARN1171933

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

What exactly are you confused about?

why am i deducted ng 4 years exp if comparable to bachelors yung qualification ko

Have you asked them why is that case?

got a reply from them. Here is the exact reply.

"Please note that the Bachelor of Science in Information Technology is a AQF bachelor’s degree with a Major in computing, however it is not closely related and that is the reason deduction of 4 years experience."

My nominated occupation is 263111 Computer Networks and System Engineer. It is so weird eh yung mga kilala ko na ang assessed sakanila is major in computing 2 years lang binawas... I even had a former colleague na same school at course kami.

I agree, that is so strange. I would still ask an explanation in what way it wasn’t related. Assessors make mistakes too. I had few cases with acs last year where I had to escalate to top management because I knew there was a mistake their end. Good luck

kldo1591

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

What exactly are you confused about?

why am i deducted ng 4 years exp if comparable to bachelors yung qualification ko

Have you asked them why is that case?

got a reply from them. Here is the exact reply.

"Please note that the Bachelor of Science in Information Technology is a AQF bachelor’s degree with a Major in computing, however it is not closely related and that is the reason deduction of 4 years experience."

My nominated occupation is 263111 Computer Networks and System Engineer. It is so weird eh yung mga kilala ko na ang assessed sakanila is major in computing 2 years lang binawas... I even had a former colleague na same school at course kami.

Do you have the same nominated occupation?

lyrre

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

What exactly are you confused about?

why am i deducted ng 4 years exp if comparable to bachelors yung qualification ko

Have you asked them why is that case?

got a reply from them. Here is the exact reply.

"Please note that the Bachelor of Science in Information Technology is a AQF bachelor’s degree with a Major in computing, however it is not closely related and that is the reason deduction of 4 years experience."

My nominated occupation is 263111 Computer Networks and System Engineer. It is so weird eh yung mga kilala ko na ang assessed sakanila is major in computing 2 years lang binawas... I even had a former colleague na same school at course kami.

I agree, that is so strange. I would still ask an explanation in what way it wasn’t related. Assessors make mistakes too. I had few cases with acs last year where I had to escalate to top management because I knew there was a mistake their end. Good luck

May I ask po how do you escalate to top management? Nababago po ba yung results or need mag file ng review/appeal?

lyrre

@kldo1591 said:

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

What exactly are you confused about?

why am i deducted ng 4 years exp if comparable to bachelors yung qualification ko

Have you asked them why is that case?

got a reply from them. Here is the exact reply.

"Please note that the Bachelor of Science in Information Technology is a AQF bachelor’s degree with a Major in computing, however it is not closely related and that is the reason deduction of 4 years experience."

My nominated occupation is 263111 Computer Networks and System Engineer. It is so weird eh yung mga kilala ko na ang assessed sakanila is major in computing 2 years lang binawas... I even had a former colleague na same school at course kami.

Do you have the same nominated occupation?

yes, same school, same course, same first company, same work, same team.

RheaMARN1171933

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@lyrre said:

@Ozdrims said:

@lyrre i just saw this maybe you can take a look

This is exactly why I am confused, I have bachelors in IT which was assessed as comparable to bachelors major in computing.

What exactly are you confused about?

why am i deducted ng 4 years exp if comparable to bachelors yung qualification ko

Have you asked them why is that case?

got a reply from them. Here is the exact reply.

"Please note that the Bachelor of Science in Information Technology is a AQF bachelor’s degree with a Major in computing, however it is not closely related and that is the reason deduction of 4 years experience."

My nominated occupation is 263111 Computer Networks and System Engineer. It is so weird eh yung mga kilala ko na ang assessed sakanila is major in computing 2 years lang binawas... I even had a former colleague na same school at course kami.

I agree, that is so strange. I would still ask an explanation in what way it wasn’t related. Assessors make mistakes too. I had few cases with acs last year where I had to escalate to top management because I knew there was a mistake their end. Good luck

May I ask po how do you escalate to top management? Nababago po ba yung results or need mag file ng review/appeal?

I just happen to have the director’s email address through previous correspondence. Just to put things in perspective, we deal with acs all the time due to infinite cases we handle. Hence, know how who to contact and discuss/raise up assessment issues concerning clients. Yes, definitely, turned things around. We’ve never applied for appeal nor review for our clients. There was never a need to do so.