How does Skill Select Works?

lock_code2004

hi guys... quick question... can i select the state sponsored and employer nominated visas sa EOI kahit wala ako sponsorship? just wondering... kac pag nagclick ako sa selections na to... meron ako natatanggap na points... baka kac hingan ako tapos wala naman ako... mamaya ma-deny pa...

yes you can select as many visa options as you want..
at the end of the EOI, you will get a summary kung anu ang mga points mo per visa type..
example:
Visa 189: 60 pts
Visa 190: 60 + 5 SS pts = 65pts

of course, make sure na may atleast 60 pts ka para mainvite..
or atleast 55 pts + 5 pts for SS for the Visa 190...
and then sympre, kung kailangan mo magapply ng SS, you will apply on the state website..

katlin924

@lock_code2004 Grabe naman yung sa Engineer's assessment! Bakit di pa kasali ang work experience dun sa una? Gastos Buti sa ACS meron dun ung AQF chorva tpos yung years of experience. So makita kagad ng DIAC yung educ + work experience.

Good luck sa mga nag-apply.

cchamyl

@lock_code2004 thank you... you are always helpful talaga...

honeybunny

Hi good morning guys. I found this forum very helpful. I have a few questions with regarding my application.

DIAC's definition of "closely related employment" to the nominated occupation. DIAC defines closely related employment as paid employment of at least 40 hours per fortnight in an occupation in the same Unit Group of ANZSCO (Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations) as the nominated occupation. This implies that the employment should be at the same skill level as the nominated occupation and should draw on a similar skill set and subject matter. Usually closely related employment is in the same industry. The employment must also match the lead statement in ANZSCO for the nominated occupation.

nalilito talaga ako sa same unit group ng ANZSCO

For example yung Pharmacist (yun ang unit group) may subsections siya (Retail, Hospital, Industrial) kung ang nominated occupation mo is Retail Pharmacist; automatic hindi ba nila ica-count ung experience mo sa Hospital or Industrial para makuha mo yung points sa GSM?

Paano pag sinabi talaga ng assessing authority (Australian Pharmacy Council) na wala kang experience as Retail Pharmacist? Pero it's up to the DIAC pa rin to decide if bibigyan ka ng points (positive scripting lang ba un at wag ka na dapat umasa sa points?)

Ayoko kasi magfile ng application tapos denied lang din ung visa tapos non-refundable pa ung 3060 AUD.

At ano po ba ung number ng DIAC na pwede tawagan from the Philippines?

Thank you in advance!!!

lock_code2004

@honeybunny - welcome po sa forum..

tama po, kung anu man po ang work experience nyo as a Pharmacist, it will be considered in your total work experience...

based on your submitted documents (COE and Job Descriptions), your assessing authority (APC) will be able to provide opinion kung reletad/closely related po ang work experience nyo sa unit group. it will be stated in the assessment result, which will be the basis of DIAC in awarding points..

So example ang nominated mo ay Retail Pharmacist, most of your work experience should demonstrate this, tapos meron kayong ibang work exp sa Hospital and Industrial, at may proof naman kayo (COE+JD, payslip), then icoconsider po yan ng APC at DIAC..

of course, make sure na ang mga documents nyo, especially ang COE+JD ay aligned sa definition ng nominated occupation nyo... for sure nabasa nyo na ang link below..

UNIT GROUP 2515 PHARMACISTS
Occupations:
251511 Hospital Pharmacist
251512 Industrial Pharmacist
251513 Retail Pharmacist

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/Lookup/3990595242B6635ACA2575DF002DA757

honeybunny

Ang problem po kasi; hindi naman nagbigay ng opinion ang APC kung related/closely related siya. Bahala na daw ang DIAC pag ganun. Paano po kaya yun?

lock_code2004

Ang problem po kasi; hindi naman nagbigay ng opinion ang APC kung related/closely related siya. Bahala na daw ang DIAC pag ganun. Paano po kaya yun?

ah okay.. personal opinion po, clear nmn po ang definition ng ANZSCO kung ano ang Pharmacist.. if you believe na covered yun ng job description nyo, at pumasa kayo skills at educational qualification ng APC, then ma-credit lahat yan ng DIAC..

when i say "clear naman ang definition ng Pharmacist", i mean wala naman kayong kaparehong job.. unlike ung mga IT, medyo overlapping ang mga defintion ng IT analysts...

so i think, kung anu man ang experience nyo sa tatlong specialization ng Pharmacist yan, at nakalagay naman po sa DIAC kung anu ang definition nila ng related/closely related, then walang problema...

honeybunny

thank you po sa sagot ninyo. Mag eexpire na kasi ung invitation ko sa March 8, 2013. Ayoko naman waste ung opportunity. God Bless po!

lock_code2004

thank you po sa sagot ninyo. Mag eexpire na kasi ung invitation ko sa March 8, 2013. Ayoko naman waste ung opportunity. God Bless po!

ah so may positive assessment na po pala kayo... akala ko magstart pa lang..
anu po ang nkalagay sa mga work experience nyo?

honeybunny

Last question po, ano po immigration hotline dito sa Pilipinas?

honeybunny

halo siya na industrial, regulatory at sales... (manufacturing supervisor ako tas naging company pharmacist for regulatory affairs)

lock_code2004

Hndi po sa pinas ang processing center ng skilled visa application.. But incase you want just google australian embassy..

honeybunny

i know its either adelaide or brisbane ung processing centers; pero i just want to give them ring just in case. Ano po kaya yung tatawagang number from here to aus?

lock_code2004

Here is what I have.. I'm not sure kung updated eto:
CONTACTING GSM PROCESSING OFFICES

After reading the information at the beginning of this letter on Skilled Migration priority processing arrangements and expected timeframes for the processing of applications, should you have any enquiry relating to your GSM application please use the online enquiry form available on our website at: http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/forms/gsm/post.htm.
In Australia you can call 1300 364 613 and from outside Australia by calling +61 1300 364 613 between 9 am and 4 pm Monday to Friday.

For general enquiries you can call 13 18 81 between 9 am and 4 pm Monday to Friday.

peach17

guys, nagcchange po ba yung Status ng attachments nyo from Required to Received?
nagtataka kasi ako, yung iba nagcchange to Received.
yung iba remains at Required status.

Hindi po ba talaga sabay sabay nagcchange yung status ng attachments?
kahit sabay sabay nman sila (same date) inupload?

ganun din po ba sa case nyo?

nalooka

question, what if I checked 189 (60 pts) and 190 (65 pts), is there a chance that I will receive an invite for 190 instead of 189? Meron na bang naka experience ng ganun? TIA

katlin924

@Peach17 - Yup ganon tlga.. minsan kse hihingin nila yung mga docs na yon. Minsan naman di din nila ni-uupdate. hahaha! Pero wag ka msyado mag-rely dun sa status once na kontakin ka ni Case Officer

@nalooka - I think so possible yn kse the higher the points the better

TasBurrfoot

question, what if I checked 189 (60 pts) and 190 (65 pts), is there a chance that I will receive an invite for 190 instead of 189? Meron na bang naka experience ng ganun? TIA

You will not get a 190 invitation UNLESS you apply for State Sponsorship...

lock_code2004

question, what if I checked 189 (60 pts) and 190 (65 pts), is there a chance that I will receive an invite for 190 instead of 189? Meron na bang naka experience ng ganun? TIA

@nalooka.. hopefully hindi ka pa nalooka..

i guess ang question nyo is: if you select visa 190 (with SS) sa EOI, kahit hindi kayo direct mag-apply ng State Sponsorship, possible ba na ang State ang mag invite sa inyo?

kung yan po ang question nyo.. the answer is "Yes"..
that is why the system is called SkillSelect, even employers.. or states can view your EOI, and they can invite anyone...

but still, this is NOT yet a visa invitation, it will be an invitiation for "POTENTIAL STATE SPONSORSHIP".. after nyo mag-reply sa knila, at masatisfy nyo ang mga requirements.. then they will give you the SS 5pts, and saka pa alng din kayo iinvite for VISA lodging..

lock_code2004

question, what if I checked 189 (60 pts) and 190 (65 pts), is there a chance that I will receive an invite for 190 instead of 189? Meron na bang naka experience ng ganun? TIA

You will not get a 190 invitation UNLESS you apply for State Sponsorship...

not the VISA invitation..
pero pwede po .. that happened to one of our members.. @saintluke..
direct invitation from the State to apply for SS..

nalooka

thank you sa replies nyo. Ganun pala yun, akala ko for visa na kagad pag nainvite ng 190 kaya kelangang nakaready na yung SS approval.

peach17

so ibig po ba sabihin, kahit nag attach na tyo ng mga documents sa visa application, possible pa rin na hingin ulit yun ng CO?
So issend ulit natin sa CO via email?

katlin924

Yup @peach17, weird yung mga yon. Di ko lam bket eh. Ako kse non, nagpadala na ng BioPages ng passport pero hiningi pa din. Labo! hahaha. Binigay ko na lang ulit yung docs. Wala namang issue yon pag ganon. nakakapagtaka lang pero kung on-hand naman yung mga docs mo, send mo lang ulit. Pag may tanong ka naman, ang best gawin.. i-attach mo yung doc na hinihingi tapos sa body ng email mo, may clause na..

"I've attached the document you've requested. I would like to know if there has been some problems with the previous document I've sent? If you could inform me of the reason so that I can understand it, that would be great."

Hahahah! Parang ganyan lang. If you can think of a better way to ask, mas okay. Bsta bottom line, i-send mo pa rin yung gusto nilang doc tapos saka ka magtanong.

P.S. make sure yung i-send mong doc eh tlagang tama ah..

peach17

thanks sis @katlin924 for the advice. gagawin ko yan when the time comes hehe.

yung sa passport ba, yung first page lang yung ni scan mo?

TasBurrfoot

so ibig po ba sabihin, kahit nag attach na tyo ng mga documents sa visa application, possible pa rin na hingin ulit yun ng CO?
So issend ulit natin sa CO via email?

YES, it happened to me... I thought I managed to submit all (except my NBI clearance which was still in transit during that time) but when the CO contacted me, he asked again for some documents.

I told him it was already sent and he acknowledged naman na there are some problems sa eVisa system, wherein some docs uploaded may not be viewed from their end.

Bottomline is, don't lose sleep over it... Upload what you can and what you think is necessary. When the time comes that you will have an IO, they will ask naman the documents that they need in order to proceed in assessing your application.

katlin924

thanks sis @katlin924 for the advice. gagawin ko yan when the time comes hehe.

yung sa passport ba, yung first page lang yung ni scan mo?

Yup! Yung BIO page lang..

peach17

cge thank you again sis @katlin924 and @psychoboy.

parang di pa nga ganun ka stable and evisa system nila.
sa paglodge nga namin ng visa application, inabot kami ng 4 hrs.
kasi lagi nag hhang and nag ffreeze yung screen.

TasBurrfoot

cge thank you again sis @katlin924 and @psychoboy.

parang di pa nga ganun ka stable and evisa system nila.
sa paglodge nga namin ng visa application, inabot kami ng 4 hrs.
kasi lagi nag hhang and nag ffreeze yung screen.

That is normal @peach17 - there came a point that I already gave up on the eVisa system and naghintay nalang sa CO.

peach17

sana magawan na nila ng paraan yun

TasBurrfoot

sana magawan na nila ng paraan yun

If you are OC about it, you can try to wake up very early in the morning and try uploading... As per experience, mas mabilis pag-ganun...