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Nababagot na wife ko sa bahay, napagiisip talaga siyang umuwi satin dyan. Sabi ko konting tiis lang or aral ng TAFE para magkaron ng edge. In demand dito sa seek hairdresser isip namin kung magaral siya nun sa tafe.
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Alam ko may rent sa sydney na around $200+ din kaso mga studio type o 1bedroom then medyo malayo ng konte sa city. Yung dati ko kasing officemate ganun ang nirerent ngayon sa Sydney.
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“We can make our own plans, but the LORD gives the right answer.”
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regarding po sa misis niyo, paaralin niyo na lang po siya o maghanap ng part time. Mas makakasira rin sa inyong Australian dream din yun kung uuwi lang si misis kasi doble ang inaalala niyo pag nangyari yun. Kumbaga, mas praktikal na yung sa Australia kayo pareho para sa ikabubuti ng pamilya
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congratz din sayo pre, yup tama ka matindi talaga competition ngayon, tiyaga lang at patience. Sa thursday pa first pay ko akala ko nung friday na. Friday pala bigayan lang ng timesheet.
First time to spend holy week sa abroad, nakaka miss ang pinas.
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auburn yung officemate ko dati $250 1br.
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Sarap na siguro sa Australia, winter na!
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Hi @sohc and everyone in this thread.:) I just registered here in hopes of finding helpful info on job hunting here in au. I migrated last feb and m staying here at west hoxton with my aunt and her family. It's a 45min. travel by train to sydney. I came here with 176 skilled relative sponsored visa. Altho sponsored my visa has no conditions so I can work anywhere. I started looking for work by march, created public profiles in seek.com.au, careerone, mycareer, linkme, iprofile tool where most IT recruiters would access for prospect applicants. With iprofile, recruiters will be one to call you. Btw I used to work for Accenture Phils. as sr. software engr/analyst programmer and was assigned to vb.net/c#-sharepoint projects. I thought it would not take me long to find a job since m in IT. After 5 months of applying so far I only got 4 or 5 initial calls from recruiters and I have not made it yet to face to face interviews. I realized that as much as there are a lot of IT jobs all over major cities in au specially in Sydney they're also technology specific and they're looking for all the latest technologies which I don't have. Also my job before was more of application support/developer for .net. Here it was more of consulting jobs meaning end to end dev't. Good for @sohc since he's into systems/network engr./dba coz it's highly indemand anywhere here. .NET is indemand but you need to have the reqd skills set, exp in particular software and industry. Open source like java and php are highly indemand too but unlike .NET you need to have exp in the latest framework .net 4.0, mvc 3, html 5, ajax, jquery, wcf, wpf, SQL 2008, ssis, ssrs, ssas etc. One culprit why I have not been as lucky must be the format of my resume lolz and I know I really have to upgrade my skills. Right now m enrolled at UTS for the SQL for developers short course wc cost me 720 for just 15 hrs. once a weeknight course. It's actually 800 but I got 10% discount due to my ACS membership. Sorry this is too long already. I really want to get back to work already even if it's just temp. Thanks for reading.
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Hi @Pau92,
I have a friend/old officemate who migrated in Melbourne from sg with his family via state sponsor. Processing just took him 9mos. He's into ETL. Also try to create a profile in seek.com.au ul find lots of IT jobs there and if ur lucky there are recruiters willing to take in applicants with sg permanent resident visa or willing to sponsor like those with TM1 cognos exp.
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If ur looking for employer sponsorship go to http://www.paxus.com.au/-201537/overseas-jobseekers they offer sponsorship. Hope this helps.
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I know the feeling of migrants.I have experienced mopping the floor so that we can able to pay for our weekly rent.Indeed migrating is not for quitters.Kulang na lang umiyak ako ng dugo para mapansin ng employers.To pay it forward,I hope in the future I can help also those pinoy migrants here since my current job is into IT recruitment.Sometimes kasi in looking for a job may kasama ding luck.But nothing beats perseverance and patience plus prayers.If things aren't good as of the moment,just remember that it won't last long.Good luck and God bless to everyone=)
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Dalawang bagay bakit nahihirapan makakuha ng trabaho ang isang Asian as of this writing, firstly, you are directly competing with Brits, Europeans and Americans not to include the Indians and Chinese na binabagsak nila ang presyo nila; secondly, adjustments.
Hindi pa rin nakakaahon ang European market neither Amerika. Ang nangyayari ngayon sa ibat ibang states is sa Adelaide nagpapasukan mga Indians na sila na mismo nagbabayad sa employer para magkaroon ng "local work experience" and ang mga Chinese via real estate investments. The difference kasi is that once nasa ibang bansa na ang culture ng 2 Asians na yan is they help their countrymen pero ang Pinoy hindi. Unfortunately, mahilig ang Pinoy magpataasan ng ihi and hindi nagsasabi ng totoo which translates to false hopes. Binasa ko ang buong thread dito medyo nagulat ako how things were described and explained but I won't get into details. May nabasa din naman ako na tamang suggestions like you need to understand ano ba ang culture dito when it comes to work. You need to research paano ba ang gumawa ng CV ala Aussie way. Kahit tumingin kayo sa www.seek.com.au may section duon na nagsasabi papaano ba sumagot sa isang application:
1. You need draft an application letter. Content should emphasize the required skills as per PD (position description).
2. You need to change the format of your CV. See several samples marami kayong makukuha from internet kahit sa seek or mycareer or careerone meron yan. 4 components dapat meron kayo sa first page ng CV i.e. Career Summary; Career Achievements; Key Competencies; Education and Training. Wag kayo mahilig sa salitang "I" na sinisimulan ang sentence. 2nd and 3rd page dapat nasulat nyo list of job positions, company worked for, key duties and roles and project involvement, if any. Wag masyadong makwento diretso sa punto.
3. Lahat ng makikita nyo na sinasabi sa ads dapat ipasok nyo both sa application letter and sa CV nyo dahil may software na ginagamit ang ilan na pag hindi nagmatch ang keywords kahit saan sa CV nyo hindi kayo mashort list. Meaning: hiningi sa job ads excellent in using MS Project.. dapat masulat nyo yan either sa Key Competencies or anywhere sa CV. Pag sinabi na essential skills dapat lahat yun meron kayo kaya dapat yun ilalagay nyo sa CV nyo, pag sinabing desireable e sana meron kayo dahil mas mapipili ka.
4. You need to customise your CV based on what is required.
Wag kayo mawawalan ng pag-asa. For example, nasa Sydney ka wala kang makita sa Sydney but that doesn't mean hindi ka pwedeng humanap sa ibang region. You just need to check your visa. The reason why a Sydney guy or gal moves to Adelaide, Melbourne or Perth dahil wala silang nakuha sa unang state na pinuntahan nyoa which is Sydney. Dahil praktikal sya kaya hindi nya nilimit sa Sydney options nya. Dapat ganyan din ang mentality ng karamihan.
Blue collar jobs mas malaki bayad kesa sa white collar. IT jobs kung may expertise ka e madali kang makakuha pero kung generalist ka e mahihirapan ka dahil saklaw ng mga caucasians yan. Meaning kung Oracle guru ka in demand ka ikaw ang hahabulin pero kung IT Project Administrator ka or Executive Assistant medyo tagilid dahil ang unang machecheck sa iyo e yung fluency mo sa English so talo na tayo nyan sa Europeans na kalahi nila.
Normal na di kayo mapapansin kung wala kayo dito sa Australia at kung nandito naman kayo dapat wag kayo magstick sa kung ano lang ang isang alam mo kundi dapat iexpand mo pa ang knowledge and skills mo. Maging praktikal dahil sa dulo ng araw pera ang kailangan mo dito hindi uso yung "Wow manager ka pala" dahil dito mas malaki pa ang kitang isang interstate truck driver or fork lifter kesa sa isang manager.
Don't be discouraged sa mga sinasabi ng ilan na mahirap ang buhay sa Australia dahil ang basis nila malamang e sa Pinas may katulong na titingin sa anak mo, may magluluto para sa iyo, madaling tumambay sa kanto at higit sa lahat tagalog ang usapan. Hindi assurance ng continuity ng buhay nyo sa Pinas o Singapore o Saudi o iba ang mangyayari sa inyo dito sa Australia. Kakaunti lang ang makakaexperience nyan at suswertehin ng todo.
The reason why ang mga Pinoy e nag-iisip na dyan din pala sa Pinas pupunta after several years e dahil sa mentality at culture dito pati weather. Masakit sa buto ang lamig hindi pa nga nagsnow. Sino ang magbibigay ng pagkain sa iyo pag may sakit ka at matanda na? Iba ang way of life sa Pinas mas nakakamiss perhaps yan ang ibig sabihin ng ilan pag sinabing mahirap ang buhay. Kung darating ka na may anak dito e siguradong masakit sa likod dahil una depende sa trabaho ng asawa mo kung kaya nya na siya lang ang magwork e for sure 2 kayong magwork para mabigyan nyo ng magandang buhay ang pamilya nyo. After work e mga anak nyo naman iintindihin nyo kasi bawal maiwan ang anak ng walang adult supervision likewise ikaw din ang magluluto etc etc.
Anyway, nalayo na ako sa topic. Ang CV mo ang susi mo sa isang interview. Kung palagay mo di ka makakuha ng interview yan e dahil sa CV mo. Baguhin mo at icompare mo. Mag google ka. Pag na interview ka ng recruiter pero di na nasundan isa lang din yan hindi ka articulate. Remember englishan dito dapat matatas ka so practis din maige wag mahiya. Kung tingin mo kulang ka sa skills mag pa enrol ka dito ng mga short courses. Likewise pag nandito ka na wag ka manghinayang pumasok as volunteer o kahit yung work experience na tinatawag na walang bayad sa mga councils o mga NGO dahil ang kailangan mo is local referess at local work experience. Yan ang dahilan bakit magdadalawang isip sila. Unless hindi ka talaga akma sa pinapasukan mo.
Habang nag-aapply kayo at inaanalyse nyo bakit nahihirapan kayo e samahan nyo ng taimtim na dasal. Again, CV and application letter ayusin at iakma sa job post na inaapplyan, pag di ka makakuha ng interview baguhin mo pa rin. Kung nagkainterview ka naman at di masundan ng client interview yung english mo irecord mo at pakinggan mo so praktis ka and be confident. Lastly while you guys are doing these exercise tumingin kayo ng mga volunteer work and free work experience. who knows dun sa mga offices na yan biglang magkaopening edi bago irelease sa labas e ikaw na muna interviewhin and magkakaroon ka ng instant na referees at malalagay mo sa CV mo na working ka sa Australia , so called local work experience.
remember walang mahirap sa taong masikap. Mas mainam na ishare nyo yung hirap na dinaanan nyo then paano nyo naovercome kaya napunta ka sa situation na yan. WAg mawawalan ng pag-asa.
Kung wala pa kayo sa Australia I suggest mag-praktis kayo maige ng english nyo (verbal) at mag-apply apply kayo para macheck nyo kung papansinin ba kayo ng recruiters o hindi.
Have faith!
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@TinaR, that was a very comprehensive post about CV's
Just on the topic regarding races, I think kahit matapos na ang recession sa Europe, hindi maiiwasan na marami pa rin ang lilipat sa Australia --it's part of globalization. So, for us aspiring to go there, huwag kayo mawalan ng pag-asa...we know our strengths so let's just highlight those...saka hindi lahat ng klase ng trabaho 'game' ang mga Westerners pasukan mga yun so we have our niche in the market hehe.
Besides the CV, I would suggest practicing the conversational skills...di kailangan ng accent, pero malaking bagay yun para mapansin ka ng employer...Come to think of it, yun lang naman talaga ang inherent advantage ng mga westerners sa atin, so if we can prove to them that we are just as good in speaking and writing (and the IELTS results will speak volumes about that)..then fair game na to
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