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fromSingaporeToAufromSingaporeToAu SingaporePosts: 23Member
Hi Guys,

Who are Industrial Engineers here?
I am an IE who is currently based here in Singapore. Just got my VISA 189 and is thinking to make the big move next year.

Share naman po kayo about these:

1) What is your job in OZ? We're you able to land an IE job?
2) How long did it take you to find a job? We're you in Au or outside Au when you got hired for it?
3) How is the adjustment period in the workplace? Compared to working as an IE outside Au?
4) How's the pay for IEs in Au?

Salamat and looking forward to what you can share :)
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  • fi0na03fi0na03 WA
    Posts: 175Member
    Joined: Jul 25, 2014
    Following! :)

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 Industrial Engineer
    05.30.2015-IELTS Test-British Council
    06.15.2015-IELTS Result -L8/R9/W6.5/S8
    07.10.2015-Applied for Remarking BC
    10.03.2015-Received Successful Remarking Result: Writing Module changed to Band 7
    01.15.2016-Submitted Requirements to EA for assessment via Fast Track
    02.02.2016-Received Positive EA Assessment
    02.02.2016-Submitted EOI 65pts
    02.03.2016-Received ITA
    02.06.2016-Medicals at Nationwide
    02.11.2016-NBI-HIt! Wait for 15 days
    02.15.2016-Medicals Result-No actions required
    02.24.2016-NBI-Released Clearance
    02.26.2016-Lodged VISA 189
    03.19.2016-Direct Grant Team Brisbane IED 02.15.2017
    06.21.2016-PDOS
    07.22.2016-Big Move!
    09.23.2016-Husband got a job
    12.02.2016-I got a job! Finally!
    "When God leads you to it, He will lead you through it" Thank You Lord!

  • fromSingaporeToAufromSingaporeToAu Singapore
    Posts: 23Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2016
    @fi0na03 wow, good luck on your big move..

    Let us know kapag nakakuha ka na ng job doon ha.. good luck sa job hunting mo, hope makahanap ka agad ng work.

    I'll be making my big move by next year pa, for now e stay muna ako dito SG at mag ipon ng pang buffer sa Au hehe
  • fi0na03fi0na03 WA
    Posts: 175Member
    Joined: Jul 25, 2014
    @fromSingaporeToAu Thank you! curious din ako malaman ang experiences ng iba. So far nagtry ako apply online sa seek.com.au and unfortunately puro rejections hahaha hope i'll have better luck at applying pagdating ko dun with an Oz ad and number na :)

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 Industrial Engineer
    05.30.2015-IELTS Test-British Council
    06.15.2015-IELTS Result -L8/R9/W6.5/S8
    07.10.2015-Applied for Remarking BC
    10.03.2015-Received Successful Remarking Result: Writing Module changed to Band 7
    01.15.2016-Submitted Requirements to EA for assessment via Fast Track
    02.02.2016-Received Positive EA Assessment
    02.02.2016-Submitted EOI 65pts
    02.03.2016-Received ITA
    02.06.2016-Medicals at Nationwide
    02.11.2016-NBI-HIt! Wait for 15 days
    02.15.2016-Medicals Result-No actions required
    02.24.2016-NBI-Released Clearance
    02.26.2016-Lodged VISA 189
    03.19.2016-Direct Grant Team Brisbane IED 02.15.2017
    06.21.2016-PDOS
    07.22.2016-Big Move!
    09.23.2016-Husband got a job
    12.02.2016-I got a job! Finally!
    "When God leads you to it, He will lead you through it" Thank You Lord!

  • fromSingaporeToAufromSingaporeToAu Singapore
    Posts: 23Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2016
    @fi0na03 anong line of work mo as IE?
  • fi0na03fi0na03 WA
    Posts: 175Member
    Joined: Jul 25, 2014
    @fromSingaporeToAu Process Improvement/Lean Manufacturing.how about you po? flexi naman tayo so I really hope di mahirapan.ok lang din sa akin na di talaga related sa current field ko.

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 Industrial Engineer
    05.30.2015-IELTS Test-British Council
    06.15.2015-IELTS Result -L8/R9/W6.5/S8
    07.10.2015-Applied for Remarking BC
    10.03.2015-Received Successful Remarking Result: Writing Module changed to Band 7
    01.15.2016-Submitted Requirements to EA for assessment via Fast Track
    02.02.2016-Received Positive EA Assessment
    02.02.2016-Submitted EOI 65pts
    02.03.2016-Received ITA
    02.06.2016-Medicals at Nationwide
    02.11.2016-NBI-HIt! Wait for 15 days
    02.15.2016-Medicals Result-No actions required
    02.24.2016-NBI-Released Clearance
    02.26.2016-Lodged VISA 189
    03.19.2016-Direct Grant Team Brisbane IED 02.15.2017
    06.21.2016-PDOS
    07.22.2016-Big Move!
    09.23.2016-Husband got a job
    12.02.2016-I got a job! Finally!
    "When God leads you to it, He will lead you through it" Thank You Lord!

  • fromSingaporeToAufromSingaporeToAu Singapore
    Posts: 23Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2016
    @fi0na03 pambihira, may kakompetensya na ako agad sa job application sa australia hahaha, Lean Manufacturing Engineer din ang field ko hahaha... since mauuna ka naman sa OZ, ipasok mo ako sa company nyo ha hehe... goodluck :)
  • fi0na03fi0na03 WA
    Posts: 175Member
    Joined: Jul 25, 2014
    @fromSingaporeToAu wahaha i'm sure mas qualified ka.saan plan mo na state ba? mas marami yata opportunity sa melbourne and adelaide for IEs

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 Industrial Engineer
    05.30.2015-IELTS Test-British Council
    06.15.2015-IELTS Result -L8/R9/W6.5/S8
    07.10.2015-Applied for Remarking BC
    10.03.2015-Received Successful Remarking Result: Writing Module changed to Band 7
    01.15.2016-Submitted Requirements to EA for assessment via Fast Track
    02.02.2016-Received Positive EA Assessment
    02.02.2016-Submitted EOI 65pts
    02.03.2016-Received ITA
    02.06.2016-Medicals at Nationwide
    02.11.2016-NBI-HIt! Wait for 15 days
    02.15.2016-Medicals Result-No actions required
    02.24.2016-NBI-Released Clearance
    02.26.2016-Lodged VISA 189
    03.19.2016-Direct Grant Team Brisbane IED 02.15.2017
    06.21.2016-PDOS
    07.22.2016-Big Move!
    09.23.2016-Husband got a job
    12.02.2016-I got a job! Finally!
    "When God leads you to it, He will lead you through it" Thank You Lord!

  • fromSingaporeToAufromSingaporeToAu Singapore
    Posts: 23Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2016
    @fi0na03 im looking at melbourne and sydney... pero kung saan muna may job opportunity, don na lang muna siguro... actually gusto ko sana mag online app muna while andito sa SG and hopefully makahanap kahit maliit ang chance... ayoko irisk na magpunta agad sa Au tapos mabakante for several months.. pero kung di talaga makakahanap online then no choice but to go to melbourne muna siguro.
  • jkk32wjkk32w Melbourne
    Posts: 682Member
    Joined: Mar 14, 2015
    hello IE's! ;D
    hello mam @fi0na03 active kaparin sa forum ..kudos! pasilip silip nlng ako sobrang busy tlaga mam. busy pa kai digong aahaha

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 || Industrial Engineer
    02.28.2015 || IELTS Test-University of Wollongong Dubai
    03.15.2015 || IELTS Result -L8/R7.5/W7.5/S7.5
    10.04.2015 || Submitted CDR to EA via Fast Track
    10.19.2015 || EA Positive Assessment - Thank Heavens!
    10.19.2015 || Submitted EOI Visa 189 (60 pts)
    11.23.2015 || EOI Auto Updated to 65 pts (8yrs at work)
    11.23.2015 || Received ITA - All Glory to God!
    12.04.2015 || Medical Examination- Nationwide
    12.12.2015 || Lodged Visa 189 / Medical Results Completed
    12.15.2015 || Uploaded all Docs including Form 80s/CVs/PCCs
    01.13.2016 || Direct Grant - All Praises to God.Viva Pit Senyor!
    03.01.2016 || Initial Entry (MEL) for me/baby & Hubby's Big Move
    03.23.2016 || Hubby's First Day of Work! Yipee! :D
    04.15.2016 || Second Visit to AU - MEL & SYD
    07.20.2016 || Hired for AU- Via Online Exams/Skype Interviews
    07.25.2016 || Third Visit to AU
    09.19.2016 || BIG MOVE!
    09.20.2016 || Employed-First Day High.Thank You Good Lord for Everything!

    “Dwell on the beauty of life. Watch the stars, and see yourself running with them.” ~Marcus Aurelius

    "Fate loves the fearless." ~James Russell Lowell

  • fi0na03fi0na03 WA
    Posts: 175Member
    Joined: Jul 25, 2014
    @jkk32w yes busy cge basa about finding work and dos and donts in entering australia lols

    @fromSingaporeToAu yes dapat talaga paghandaan ang big move. malay mo may mahanap ka online. etong si @jkk32w IE din na SG based sa ngayon. marami tayo dito, busy lang cguro ang iba :)

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 Industrial Engineer
    05.30.2015-IELTS Test-British Council
    06.15.2015-IELTS Result -L8/R9/W6.5/S8
    07.10.2015-Applied for Remarking BC
    10.03.2015-Received Successful Remarking Result: Writing Module changed to Band 7
    01.15.2016-Submitted Requirements to EA for assessment via Fast Track
    02.02.2016-Received Positive EA Assessment
    02.02.2016-Submitted EOI 65pts
    02.03.2016-Received ITA
    02.06.2016-Medicals at Nationwide
    02.11.2016-NBI-HIt! Wait for 15 days
    02.15.2016-Medicals Result-No actions required
    02.24.2016-NBI-Released Clearance
    02.26.2016-Lodged VISA 189
    03.19.2016-Direct Grant Team Brisbane IED 02.15.2017
    06.21.2016-PDOS
    07.22.2016-Big Move!
    09.23.2016-Husband got a job
    12.02.2016-I got a job! Finally!
    "When God leads you to it, He will lead you through it" Thank You Lord!

  • jhaybirdszjhaybirdsz Singapore
    Posts: 3Member
    Joined: Jun 29, 2015
    edited June 2016
    Hi po. Pwede po ba pa share ng CDR for IE. IE rin po ako from SG planning on moving to AU. :)) email ko po: [email protected]. Salamat po~

    233513 - Production or Plant Engineer

    04.30.2016-IELTS Test-British Council
    05.14.2016-IELTS Result -L8.5/R9/W7/S7
    12.21.2016 - Submitted CDR via Fast Track
    01.24.2017 - EA Approved
    03.16.2017 - Submitted EOI
    03.29.2017 - Received ITA
    04.17.2017 - Lodged Visa 189
    06.06.2017 - CO Contact - Form 80 and medicals (me and family)
    06.24.2017 - Submitted all docs and Completed medical
    09.11.2017 - Visa grant! God is good~

  • jkk32wjkk32w Melbourne
    Posts: 682Member
    Joined: Mar 14, 2015
    edited June 2016
    fi0na03 said:

    @jkk32w yes busy cge basa about finding work and dos and donts in entering australia lols

    @fromSingaporeToAu yes dapat talaga paghandaan ang big move. malay mo may mahanap ka online. etong si @jkk32w IE din na SG based sa ngayon. marami tayo dito, busy lang cguro ang iba :)

    sa desyerto ng dubai ako based hehe dito muna ako habang sizzling summer pa ..malamig p ngaun sa aussie..sa december nako maglipat mam.


    goodluck @fromSingaporeToAu !!

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 || Industrial Engineer
    02.28.2015 || IELTS Test-University of Wollongong Dubai
    03.15.2015 || IELTS Result -L8/R7.5/W7.5/S7.5
    10.04.2015 || Submitted CDR to EA via Fast Track
    10.19.2015 || EA Positive Assessment - Thank Heavens!
    10.19.2015 || Submitted EOI Visa 189 (60 pts)
    11.23.2015 || EOI Auto Updated to 65 pts (8yrs at work)
    11.23.2015 || Received ITA - All Glory to God!
    12.04.2015 || Medical Examination- Nationwide
    12.12.2015 || Lodged Visa 189 / Medical Results Completed
    12.15.2015 || Uploaded all Docs including Form 80s/CVs/PCCs
    01.13.2016 || Direct Grant - All Praises to God.Viva Pit Senyor!
    03.01.2016 || Initial Entry (MEL) for me/baby & Hubby's Big Move
    03.23.2016 || Hubby's First Day of Work! Yipee! :D
    04.15.2016 || Second Visit to AU - MEL & SYD
    07.20.2016 || Hired for AU- Via Online Exams/Skype Interviews
    07.25.2016 || Third Visit to AU
    09.19.2016 || BIG MOVE!
    09.20.2016 || Employed-First Day High.Thank You Good Lord for Everything!

    “Dwell on the beauty of life. Watch the stars, and see yourself running with them.” ~Marcus Aurelius

    "Fate loves the fearless." ~James Russell Lowell

  • fromSingaporeToAufromSingaporeToAu Singapore
    Posts: 23Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2016
    salamat sa lahat ng nagshare, hope others can share as well :)
  • rika.uyrika.uy Philippines
    Posts: 3Member
    Joined: Sep 05, 2016
    @fi0na03 @fromSingaporeToAu magandang araw po. alam ko po para sa AU po tong forum na to pero nakita ko rin po na sa SG po kayo based hehehe baka po meron din kayo masuggest na position po for engineers in SG. Sa totoo lang po, open po ako to any opportunity, AU man po or SG kasi kailangan po talaga kumayod abroad. Maraming salamat po! Thank you in advance
  • dehtotdehtot Singapore
    Posts: 5Member
    Joined: Sep 21, 2016
    hello guys! newbie here. Me and my husband are both IE and just received our visa last week. Kamusta na? May nakuha na ba kayo work sa Aussie? Dito rin kami SG and naghahanap hanap nadin ng work before moving to Aussie. :)
  • baker06baker06 Philippines
    Posts: 1Member
    Joined: Oct 09, 2016
    @jhaybirdsz
    Hi.. First time to comment po..ive been following this forum for a month now.. May i ask po what is CDR for ie? I.e po husband ko but wla po syang experince.we want to try our luck sana sa aus. Mostly po ba na ggrabt lng ng visa is yung may mga experience? Thank you po..
  • bait0211bait0211 Melbourne
    Posts: 550Member
    Joined: Apr 16, 2013
    @fromSingaporeToAu: kumusta ang Singapore? It's been a long time din na hindi ko navisit ang site na ito sorbing busy na. I'm an IE as well, so far mas prefer talaga nila ang nandito na para mainterview agad. Though wala pa naman akong work, may one month na rin akong naghahanap pure rejections din pero sabi nag try and try. Hindi naman tayo pababayaan ni Lord. May three interviews na din ako pero mas may qualified daw. hehehe. so pasa lang ako ng pasa. Good luck sa job hunting mo and if ever sa Melbourne ka pupunta let me know (PM much better) malay mo I can help you in looking for a house na matutuluyan.

    God Speed!

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 || Industrial Engineer
    06.20.2014 - IDP Singapore IELTS (R- 8; W-7; L- 6.5; S - 6.0)
    09.30.2014 - sent CDR to EA through Singpost
    10.03.2014 - EA received the documents
    12.29.2014 - IDP Singapore IELTS (R- 6.5; W-6.5; L- 8.5; S - 6.5)
    2.12.2015 - received mail from EA dated 2.5.2015 (positive outcome)
    2.13.2015 - submitted EOI (Visa 190 NSW)
    6.3.2015 - PTE Academic exam (failed)
    7.6.2015 - revised EOI (Visa 190 SA)
    7.14.2015 - PTE Academic (passed - thank u LORD!)
    7.17.2015 - PTE (L 83, R 71, S 65, W 79) - submitted new EOI for Visa 189 (65 points)
    8.3.2015 - Received invite to lodge Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) (Permanent) visa application
    8.13.2015 - Lodged Visa Application
    8.17.2015 - SPC Application
    9.3.2015 - NBI
    9.8.2015 - Uploaded SPC and NBI and pictures
    10.6.2015 - Uploaded Form 80
    10.7.2015 - Medical results finalized. All cleared. Thank you Lord!
    10.9.2015 - CO requested for Form 80 for dependent
    10.22.2015 - Golden Email received. Thank you Lord for the VISA grant
    4.11.2016 - Big MOVE to Melbourne
    4.18.2016 - Hubby got a job (Thank you Lord!)
    8.25.2016 - Started looking for a job (If God's will He will provide in the right time)


           PRAY, HOPE & DON't WORRY... :-) PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE
    
  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity Adelaide
    Posts: 2,274Member, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 30, 2013
    @bait0211 oo nga, di ka na masyado visit dito. Baka mapadpad ka sa adelaide, balitaan mo din ako, baka kitakitz tayo

    Assessed Occupation: Industrial Engineer (IE 233511)
    Achieved Goal: Australia PR (Permanent Resident). Thanks God!

    ...sharpening my core gifts now...
    ...working on new, better goals...

    Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ~Luke 6:28~

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    Joined: Dec 27, 2014
    Singning up lang din po dito. IE din po. @bait0211 musta na?
  • bait0211bait0211 Melbourne
    Posts: 550Member
    Joined: Apr 16, 2013
    @yaggieez: hallo there! kumusta? san ka banda my fellow IE mate? :)

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 || Industrial Engineer
    06.20.2014 - IDP Singapore IELTS (R- 8; W-7; L- 6.5; S - 6.0)
    09.30.2014 - sent CDR to EA through Singpost
    10.03.2014 - EA received the documents
    12.29.2014 - IDP Singapore IELTS (R- 6.5; W-6.5; L- 8.5; S - 6.5)
    2.12.2015 - received mail from EA dated 2.5.2015 (positive outcome)
    2.13.2015 - submitted EOI (Visa 190 NSW)
    6.3.2015 - PTE Academic exam (failed)
    7.6.2015 - revised EOI (Visa 190 SA)
    7.14.2015 - PTE Academic (passed - thank u LORD!)
    7.17.2015 - PTE (L 83, R 71, S 65, W 79) - submitted new EOI for Visa 189 (65 points)
    8.3.2015 - Received invite to lodge Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) (Permanent) visa application
    8.13.2015 - Lodged Visa Application
    8.17.2015 - SPC Application
    9.3.2015 - NBI
    9.8.2015 - Uploaded SPC and NBI and pictures
    10.6.2015 - Uploaded Form 80
    10.7.2015 - Medical results finalized. All cleared. Thank you Lord!
    10.9.2015 - CO requested for Form 80 for dependent
    10.22.2015 - Golden Email received. Thank you Lord for the VISA grant
    4.11.2016 - Big MOVE to Melbourne
    4.18.2016 - Hubby got a job (Thank you Lord!)
    8.25.2016 - Started looking for a job (If God's will He will provide in the right time)


           PRAY, HOPE & DON't WORRY... :-) PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE
    
  • bait0211bait0211 Melbourne
    Posts: 550Member
    Joined: Apr 16, 2013
    @IslanderndCity: oo nga. sobra busy sa paghahanap ng work plus the little kid around all the time kaya hirap isingit na magbasa na unlike dati na nasa Singapore ako, anytime pwede ako magbrowse. hehehe. muztah jan Adelaide?

    ANZSCO CODE: 233511 || Industrial Engineer
    06.20.2014 - IDP Singapore IELTS (R- 8; W-7; L- 6.5; S - 6.0)
    09.30.2014 - sent CDR to EA through Singpost
    10.03.2014 - EA received the documents
    12.29.2014 - IDP Singapore IELTS (R- 6.5; W-6.5; L- 8.5; S - 6.5)
    2.12.2015 - received mail from EA dated 2.5.2015 (positive outcome)
    2.13.2015 - submitted EOI (Visa 190 NSW)
    6.3.2015 - PTE Academic exam (failed)
    7.6.2015 - revised EOI (Visa 190 SA)
    7.14.2015 - PTE Academic (passed - thank u LORD!)
    7.17.2015 - PTE (L 83, R 71, S 65, W 79) - submitted new EOI for Visa 189 (65 points)
    8.3.2015 - Received invite to lodge Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) (Permanent) visa application
    8.13.2015 - Lodged Visa Application
    8.17.2015 - SPC Application
    9.3.2015 - NBI
    9.8.2015 - Uploaded SPC and NBI and pictures
    10.6.2015 - Uploaded Form 80
    10.7.2015 - Medical results finalized. All cleared. Thank you Lord!
    10.9.2015 - CO requested for Form 80 for dependent
    10.22.2015 - Golden Email received. Thank you Lord for the VISA grant
    4.11.2016 - Big MOVE to Melbourne
    4.18.2016 - Hubby got a job (Thank you Lord!)
    8.25.2016 - Started looking for a job (If God's will He will provide in the right time)


           PRAY, HOPE & DON't WORRY... :-) PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE
    
  • VirGlySylVirGlySyl Ph
    Posts: 327Member
    Joined: Nov 11, 2016
    Good Day Newbie here, (first comment)
    btw,

    IE din po,
    local experience of 5 years and counting (2,1,2+)
    di ko masasabi yung focus ng work since IE nga pero may prev. companies are all electronics/manufacturing

    Next year po ako kukuha ng IELTS with a target of 8 if else I failed hope to get 7, di ko alam yung 6 (just being positive)

    hingi lang po sana ako ng CDR nyo fellow dreamer and Guide.

    [email protected]

    | IE 233511 | A:30 (until Dec31)| ELA:10 | Q:15 | OWE:15 | = 70

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    Joined: Dec 27, 2014
    @bait0211 eto, sa may southeast area kami. Kamusta naman ang rampa nyo? Kami eto kedyo nakakasabay na sa lamig. Heheh
  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity Adelaide
    Posts: 2,274Member, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 30, 2013
    @VirGlySyl CDR sample sent

    @bait0211 ayos naman po. ka-facebook na yata tayo. ewan. hehe

    Assessed Occupation: Industrial Engineer (IE 233511)
    Achieved Goal: Australia PR (Permanent Resident). Thanks God!

    ...sharpening my core gifts now...
    ...working on new, better goals...

    Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ~Luke 6:28~

  • MadwaxMadwax Woolloongabba
    Posts: 79Member
    Joined: Jun 12, 2015
    Kamusta fellow ie, im here in melb im working as production operator. Medyo matumal kc hiring ng IE pero im still looking for a better job. Hingi ako advice, if i want to study about supply chain or warehouse management saan pwede mag enroll?
  • Ric0618Ric0618 Singpore
    Posts: 15Member
    Joined: Apr 10, 2017
    Hello po fellow IE Mates. Newbie here.

    Hingi po sana ako sample ng CDR.
    IE(Supply Chain background).

    [email protected]

    Thank you po.
  • chu_sechu_se Melbourne
    Posts: 433Member
    Joined: Jun 06, 2013
    @Madwax hello fellow ie..my na kita kna po ba kung saan mkapag pa enrol? balak ko din kasi mag aral.pm mo ako pag my info ka.
    thanx
  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity Adelaide
    Posts: 2,274Member, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 30, 2013
    @chu_se have you checked TAFE?

    Assessed Occupation: Industrial Engineer (IE 233511)
    Achieved Goal: Australia PR (Permanent Resident). Thanks God!

    ...sharpening my core gifts now...
    ...working on new, better goals...

    Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ~Luke 6:28~

  • thecrudesthecrudes Dubai
    Posts: 1Member
    Joined: Feb 07, 2018
    @jkk32w Hi, I'm also based in Dubai...how is the cost of living there compared to Dubai? It's very tough to get and ITA na ata for IEs coz the cut-off mark is already 75 pts to get the ITA.
  • JanleeyanJanleeyan Philippines
    Posts: 1Member
    Joined: Jan 24, 2018
    @IslanderndCity

    Hi Newbie here.. Hingi din po sana ako ng sample CDR. THanks in advance po


    [email protected]
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