Architect - Applying as Architectural Draftsperson

jmm · March 2014

@clickbuddy2009 thanks for the reply sir, nasa assessment stage palang po. any suggestion sir? im open to any other suggestions. maraming salamat. god bless us.

jvframos · March 2014

@jmm san po kayo nagpaprocess ng visa nyo sir? Arki din po ako working as well ditto sa Dubai. Kahit naman nagclose na ang WA, nagopen naman sa QLD at ACT so may chance yan sir need nyo lang talaga tutukan ang process

jmm · March 2014

@jvframos sir thank for your reply, WWICS po. kayo po ba? do i need to lower my qualifications as civil draftsman for a brighter result? feb.2014 po ako nag start magpa asses. registered architect po ba kayo sir? many thanks.

clickbuddy2009 · March 2014

Hi @jmm, what do you mean by lowering your qualifications to civil draftsman? I don't think by assigning civil eng'g draftsperson would lower your qualifications, but instead mas lalawak pa nga ang chances mo in the playing field. Been to SG for 7years at mas malaki ang offer ng civil draftsman compared to arki unless ofcourse kung senior ka na or madami kang alam sa pagiging archi draftsman. Same thing here in AU, mas malaki ang offer at mas malawak ang opportunities for eng'g draftsman. Well, I could be wrong. Mas maganda wait natin experiences ng mga kapwa archi draftsperson dito.

I'm an arki grad myself, and I am grateful na civil/ structural na ang mas na-enhance kong skills dahil para lang naman sakin mas marami ang opportunities ko dito. I can shift career to civil, structural, rail, CSD/ mech'l, O&G, or pwede rin balik sa archi. Whereas kung archi draftsperson ka, medyo mahirap lumipat ng C&S lalo na kung wala masyado exposure dito.

Back to your question bro about shifting to civil draftsman, meron ka ba experience sa C&S? Kung wala, di mo rin pwede ipaassess yan. Kung 2years naman ang exp mo as archi draftsman, wala ka din ata makukuhang points nyan sa work exp dahil minimum ang 3years. So ang chance mo para makakuha ng mataas na points for visa application is either wait na mag 3years ang work exp or galingan mo na lang sa ielts. BTW, ilang taon kna pla? Abot na ba for 30points para sa age?

jvframos · March 2014

@jmm, hindi po ako sir... girl po ako.

Architect po ang position ko ditto sa office in Dubai. When I did the skills assessment, I opted to be assessed as architectural draftsman for the very reason na mas madaling makakuha ng positive skills assessment sa vetassess compared to architects Australia dahil architecture in the Phils is not equivalent to architecture in Australia.

And for your question, it doesn't matter if you have your skills assessed as an architectural draftsman or civil draftsman. What's important is you have the documents to prove your skills and experience. I cannot na mas magiging malaki ang advantage mo if you have your skills assessed as civil draftsman kasi ang question lang naman dun is enough ba yung years of experience mo to qualify you to get points. I suggest, kung san ka mas may matagal na experience, yun ang ipaaassess mo. At the end of the day, what will matter most is yung points na makukuha mo. We can be assessed for whatever skills we have for that matter as long as we can produce all the documents necessary to get positive results.

Bottom line is, pagdating mo ng Australia, you can do all sorts of work, may it be architectural works, C&S, mechanical, etc. We are flexible that we can learn anything... it depends na lang sayo how you cope with the change. So I suggest, kung alin yung sa tingin mo mas mataas na points ang makukuha mo then go for it. Worry about the job in Australia later.... taget mo at this point in time is to get the positive outcome. But one thing more, civil draftsman do not require state sponsorship whereas architectural draftsman do. so kung willing kang mag undergo ng state sponsorship for additional points, choose arki, kung di naman, choose civil. Yun lang po.....

jmm · March 2014

@clickbuddy2009 first of all salamat po sa time na nakakapag reply pa kayo hehe. nakuha ko po ung point nyo. thank you. Im only 24 yrs old. - 25 points only. regarding naman sa exp. 2 yrs after grad. not including ung hindi pa ako graduate. cause i heard na di un counted tama po ba? nag stop kasi ako nun for 1 year to work sa outsourced australian projects. siguro po hindi ko na i transfer ng civil drafts. base on your comment kasi more on architectural ako. maraming salamat po sir

jmm · March 2014

@jvframos ay hindi po pala kayo sir sorry po.

maraming salamat maam. marami akong natutunan

ok tama nga ang sinabi mo. ill do it. maring salamat sa inyo malaking tulong po tlga ung comments nyo. by the way san po kayo dito sa dubai?

jvframos · March 2014

@jmm ang office naming is located in Wafi residence at sa Hyder Consulting ako employed. Sa Al Nahda 2 Al Qusais naman kami nakatira. Ikaw san ka ditto sa Dubai?

jmm · March 2014

@jvframos ang layo po pala ng work nyo sa house nyo. sa al rigga po ako nagstay tapos jebel ali ang work. maam thanks. anyway if you want to add my fb account ito po. "https://www.facebook.com/jjm900" ayaw ko lang mag flood masyado dito

. thank you po

rjxref · July 2014

Hi guys, nag aaply din po ako ng 190 thru WWICS. Arki grad din po ako and working here sa Qatar as arki draftsman. According po sa agency ko ung NT ay open po sa 312111 na occupation, pero masyadong maarte sa mga requirements nila lalo na sa evidence of financial capacity. For me, my wife and sa anak ko nag require cla ng 60k aud worth of assets according sa website nila. Its a long shot but is there anybody who can shed light on how to work out on a solution to this?

han_min · July 2014

@rjxref Hi! nakita ko rin open ang NT, pero may nabanggit ba ung agency mo regarding requirements na job offer?

paul25 · September 2014

Hello sa lahat! Kailangan ko lang ng advice or guidance ng mga nakakuha na ng visa nila. Architect applying as Architectural Draftsperson (ANZSCO code 312111). Magpapasa na ako sa vetassess ng complete information ko. Expired PRC lisence since 2013. Nag-take na ako ng IELTS. (OBS 6.0) Ano na ba next move ko? Plano ko kasi sana Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189) ang pasahan ko. Tama ba ako? Salamat ng marami!

poquita08 · October 2014

Hi! newbie here. I have been reading on the posts especially on this thread. Background story: Sis in law already a PR in ACT, just received their Visa flying to AU in January. She invited us to apply for Subclass 189. My husband is the principal applicant, Architecture grad from UST, more than 10 years in the industry. Plan is to have his skills assessed by AACA kaya lang as I was reading this thread, most of the posts opt for VETASSESS as Architectural Draftperson kasi maliit ang chance ma approve sa AACA. kaya lang wala sa SOL ang arch draftperson. What are other options? I need sound advice on this... Thanks a lot guys...

TotoyOZresident · October 2014

Hi! newbie here. I have been reading on the posts especially on this thread. Background story: Sis in law already a PR in ACT, just received their Visa flying to AU in January. She invited us to apply for Subclass 189. My husband is the principal applicant, Architecture grad from UST, more than 10 years in the industry. Plan is to have his skills assessed by AACA kaya lang as I was reading this thread, most of the posts opt for VETASSESS as Architectural Draftperson kasi maliit ang chance ma approve sa AACA. kaya lang wala sa SOL ang arch draftperson. What are other options? I need sound advice on this... Thanks a lot guys...

Ang pagkaalam ko Nakalagay na kahit closed ang skills kapag may kapatid o 1st cousin na nakatira sa ACT puede pa rin mag apply.

Skilled Migration Applicants
The ACT Occupation List determines if the occupation is available for ACT nomination:
• Open Occupations: you can apply for ACT nomination if you meet the nomination criteria.
• Closed Occupations: You may be eligible to apply for ACT nomination if you have close ties (job offer or close family) to Canberra and you meet the nomination criteria.
To determine your eligibility for ACT nomination you must read the ‘Guidelines for applying for ACT nomination’ and make sure that you meet the nomination criteria. See: http://www.canberrayourfuture.com.au/portal/migrating/article/skilled-visas/.

http://www.canberrayourfuture.com.au/workspace/uploads/documents/act-occupation-list-oct-14.pdf

okay yung Architectural draftsperson puede din yung maging designer. Tyaga muna sa mababa as drafter kung makatyempo ng work.

poquita08 · October 2014

Thank you Sir! We can start from all the info you gave. God bless..

thegreatiam15 · November 2014

@TotoyOZresident

BOSSING Any idea kung kelan nagbubukas or kung yearly ba bawat states besides NT and TAS nagbubukas ang 312111?

maraming salamat kelangan ko yung push na to para maging motivated ulet at makakita nang pagasa sa pagsubok na ito HEHE

thegreatiam15 · December 2014

@TotoyOZresident

bossing may idea ka ba sir kung magoopen ang ARCH DP ulet sa ACT?

last time ba gaano siya katagal nagopen?

ito nalang kasi hinihintay ko para makapaglodge nang EOI sana magreopen siya

yearly ba nagbubukas itong occupation na ito? or once in a while lang?

salamat

archbunki · January 2015

hello sa lahat. im new here architectural assistant dito sa sg, but architect sa pinas. im applying as well as architectural draftperson. nasa vetassess na ang aking skill assessment.
sana pumasa ako. hindi ako naka kuha ng coe sa opisina na architectural draftperson ako. mahirap na kasi dito sa singapore ang trabaho, nag submit lang ako ng referral letter galing sa amo ko pero hindi signed and company letter head.
kasi ayaw ko din naman nya malagot sa opisina na naglabas sya ng unofficial letter.

sa mga nag pa vetassess na po. lahat po ba kayo ng submit ng coe na nalalagay agn detailed work as architectural draftman? un trabaho ko po kasi dito di nmn ako draftman lang. kay di din ako maklahingi ng coe na with draftman description. arch'l assistant ay more than drafting ang trabaho ko, lumalabas sa site and attend meeting tapos coordination.

share lang po nya ang experience nyo sa vetassess regarding sa detailed coe.
sorry po naitanong na ito noon.
salamat marami.

thegreatiam15 · February 2015

may update ba sa 312111? : )

Anino78 · April 2015

update po... sa SA po open na.

Im new to the forum po and nagbabasa basa lng ako dati and ngayon preparing my docs for skill assesment na.

Question po: I'm a PR in singapore and been working there for almost 10yrs as archi designer. Pero ngayon nasa pinas na kami ni misis para magpahinga from work stress kasi di kami makabuo. San po ba mas maganda mag-apply ng visa? dito sa pinas or from Sg?
Ung mga coe ko kasi hinihintay ko pa from my former employers sa sg.

Thanks in advance po. Goodluck sa mga april applicants!

thegreatiam15 · July 2015

may update naba sa ACT? hehe

Anino78 · July 2015

Hello mga kapwa architects... musta mga applicants? currently I'm still gathering all my documents for vetassess. Any updates po sa mga kabayan natin na naglodge na? btw, ung sa ACT po open pa din sya as of now.

layao2002 · July 2015

Naglodge na kami last july 6 sa ACT. Crossing our fingers

BenchongDee · August 2015

ACT just released their updated occupation list for 2015 and Architectural Draftsperson skills is already closed! I have lodged our ACT SS application last July 24 and a case officer was just assigned yesterday!

Anyone here the napagsarahan ng occupation while in the middle of SS application? What will be the implications? Itutuloy pa kaya nila ang pag assess ng application namin? Na-stress ako bigla hehe

BenchongDee · August 2015

@BenchongDee
Mukhang wala naman kaso kasi na approved na ACT SS ko kanina..

Azriel · August 2015

ACT just released their updated occupation list for 2015 and Architectural Draftsperson skills is already closed! I have lodged our ACT SS application last July 24 and a case officer was just assigned yesterday!

Anyone here the napagsarahan ng occupation while in the middle of SS application? What will be the implications? Itutuloy pa kaya nila ang pag assess ng application namin? Na-stress ako bigla hehe

NO Implication, you are already in their queue. Good luck sa SS mo