How does Skill Select Works?

Julz · August 2012

Hello po,

Sa tingin nyo just how slim the chances became for new aspirants with this new immigration process?
My mga nakikita ko sa timeline in less than 6 months approved ang visa, dati ba mynadedeny na visa kahit pasok ang points mo? E yun ceiling wala dn b4 dba po? Sabi sa gov immig blog, ndi raw 22o na mababawasan ang visa grants, its just that kung ano yun mas kelangan nilang skills yun ang bibigyan nila ng visa.

Any idea po sa mga IT professional, i see na abt 8k ang ceiling for them (inclusing software developrs, adminstrator and ICT engr) parang napaka konti nito sa dami ng nag aaply!

bmc_cpu · August 2012

Hi Guys,

Tanong ako. Na invite na po ako to lodge, kaso may konting problema. Yung start date ng college education ko ksi na nalagay ko sa EOI e 1 week later kaysa sa official start date from school. Since na freeze na yung EOI ko dahil sa invitation, di ko na mababago. Do you think safe na ilagay ko pa rin yung start date sa Visa Application same sa EOI para maging consistent? Baka ksi pag nakita nila na magkaiba e magkatrouble pa ako. Pwede ko namang i reason out na na late enrol ako, di ba

. Hindi naman kasi nakalagay sa TOR or diploma yung start date, yun graduation date lang nakalagay.

katie0499 · August 2012

dont worry about it too much.. sa mga susunod mo na lang na fifillupan (form 80 and appliation form, gawin mong consistent.. so lahat same sa nilagay mong info sa EOI.. ang alam ko wala namang doc na ipapasa (ex transcript) na nakasulat kelan ang start day/month ng school.. usually year lang

wynx · August 2012

Reply to @bmc_cpu: congrats at may invitation ka na. ilan po ang claimed points mo, if you don't mind? saka ano pong visa class ang inaapply mo? thanks

bmc_cpu · August 2012

Reply to @wynx:
65 po. Visa 190 po yung inapplayan ko.

bmc_cpu · August 2012

Reply to @katie0499:
oo nga e. Pero kahit nga sa transcript ko wala ring nakalagay na start date, unless tatawag talaga sila sa school about the start day. Magiging consistent na lang ako with the EOI, mukha kasing mas okay maging ganito kesa paiba-iba. By the way, after po pala magbayad sa application, yung form 80 po ba imimail yun, kasama yung ibang certified documents?

wynx · August 2012

Reply to @bmc_cpu: dun po b s 65 points kasama dun ung additional points ng state sponsorship? thanks

lock_code2004 · August 2012

@bmc_cpu - are you asking about the documents for the actual online Visa application?

If yes, then you dont need to mail all the certified documents..
you scan them, and then attached to your application.

After payment, you will get your TRN (transaction reference number), you will use this
to open the link where you will attach all required documents..

Before SkillSlect, you will normally get all this information thru an email, which DIAC will send you after payment.. I hope the process is still the same now.

bmc_cpu · August 2012

Reply to @lock_code2004:
Hi. Actually pagkatapos po ng payment, wala yata silang mail na sinend para sa mga instructions. Nag proceed yung site sa part na mag uupload ka ng mga docs. By the way, yung nakalagay ba dun under sa Next Steps, yung lang ba talaga mga required. Meron din po pala dun part for Health and Character evidence, di po ba after na ma check ng C.O. yun? Mejo mahirap yung uploading, kasi nagkakanetwork error, etc. Kaya yung iba na kahit nakikita ko na sa attachments sa baba, e inuupload ko ulit pag ganung error hanggang wala na yung error at naging required/received yung status nya sa taas (next steps), ganito din po ba sa inyo?

bmc_cpu · August 2012

Reply to @wynx:
opo

bmc_cpu · August 2012

May nagkaproblema din po ba dito na kapag gumamit ka ng maraming "others(specify)", yung nakalagay lang sa taas ay iisa lang?

After po ng uploading, may mag mimail po ba? or maghihintay na lang hanggang magka CO?

ajet02 · August 2012

Good day mga sir, possible po ba na makapaglodge ako kahit ganito ang grades ko sa IELTS? R-6.5, L-7, W-7, S-6? thanks po kung sino man ang makasagot

elle · August 2012

Reply to @ajet02: Possible, that is if your score is 60 kahit 0 ka sa English language ability. You can claim Competent English : 6+ in all 4 components of IELTS

LokiJr · August 2012

Reply to @ajet02: points tested visa po ba ang habol niyo? If so, ano na po points niyo so far kung "0" ang IELTS? Kung 65 above naman nakuha niyo puwede na yan hehe...

ajet02 · August 2012

Thanks po @elle & @LokiJr, suggestion kc ng immigration consultant sakin i can lodge daw kahit ganun ang nakuha kong scores. anyways ito pala yung credetials ko, 3 yrs exp sa Dept of Agri, B.A. Agricultural Eng'r from UPLB with license tsaka i'm 26 years old po. Do you think pasok po ito sa qualifications? Sabi nung immigration consultant sakin I can choose between Subclass 189, 190 or 489 visa. Magpa VetAsses na raw ako eh kinakabahan naman ako baka di rin makalusot yun.

lock_code2004 · August 2012

Reply to @ajet02:

age - 30pts ( 26 yrs old)
ielts - 0 pts
work exp - 5 pts (3 yrs)
education - 15pts (bs degree)
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current total - 50 pts

looks like hindi aabot ang current points mo sa min required na 60pts..
a) kung mag visa 190 po, state sponsorship, that will give you additional 5 points.. (so total 55pts)
b) kung may relative po kayo, you can apply for visa 489 , additional 10pts ( so total will be 60pts)..

check nyo po ang requirements ng vetassess kung pwede na ang current score nyo sa ielts..
kung pwede na, i suggest magsubmit na kayo ng assessment kasi medyo matagal din un.

and while waiting for your assessment result, you can retake your ielts.. para makakuha kayo ng score 7... that means additional 10pts ...

coachella9 · August 2012

Hi po. what's the difference between Visa 175 and 189?

R_Yell · August 2012

@coachella9 hi...175 and 189 are the same, both skilled-independent visa. ONLY that 175 is the previous name of the 189 visa...189 is ung bago na po na skilled-independent visa equivalent sa 175 noon...

please correct me if im wrong...

TasBurrfoot · August 2012

@coachella9 hi...175 and 189 are the same, both skilled-independent visa. ONLY that 175 is the previous name of the 189 visa...189 is ung bago na po na skilled-independent visa equivalent sa 175 noon...

please correct me if im wrong...

Difference for both is that you for the previous 175 visa, you have the liberty to initiate an application for migration itself provided you meet the point requirements.

189 on the other hand needs to submit an Expression of Intent (EOI) - from there, if your EOI stands out from the rest and if your skills are needed in Oz, they will pick out your EOI and invite you to lodge an 189 visa application.

coachella9 · August 2012

@psychoboy - Thanks for the profound explanation.

It seems like the selection is more stringent on 189. That means that you really have to invest in the areas that could give you more points.

coachella9 · August 2012

@R_Yell thanks also

TasBurrfoot · August 2012

@psychoboy - Thanks for the profound explanation. It seems like the selection is more stringent on 189. That means that you really have to invest in the areas that could give you more points.

Correct - all the things that you can improve on (usually IELTS results), kung pwede magretake to get full 20 points retake lang... It can increase your chances lalo na kung border case ka lang sa passing.

Although they have lowered the points to 60 - the fact of the matter is, you need to aim high so you will be invited...

To put it simply, there is competition post July 2012 - goodluck! We just started ourselves...

stolich18 · August 2012

^ yup he's right. Also, you would need to compete with other potential on-shore applicants (applicants holding temporary visas already in AU) who can claim additional points for the # of years they have spent studying or working in AU.

TasBurrfoot · August 2012

The report summarizing the EOI invitations sent as of the selection process last end of July 2012 has already been released; please refer to below link:

http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/report-2012-08/

LokiJr · August 2012

Idagdag ko rin ito sa binigay ni @psychoboy
http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/pdf/skillselect-activity-summary-july-2012.pdf

breakdown yan ng granted EoI sa bawat occupation. Mukhang marami pang opening! hehe

TasBurrfoot · August 2012

I think we may see this as good news:

· 900 invitations for Skilled Independents (subclass 189), comprising 450 on 1 September and 450 on 15 September; and
· 100 invitations for the Skilled Regional (Family) Sponsored (subclass 489), comprising 50 on 1 September and 50 on 15 September.

Details are in the link below:
http://skillselect.govspace.gov.au/2012/08/28/announcement-september-2012-skillselect-invitation-rounds/

All the best everyone!

Geoff · August 2012

Hi Guys, I am not sure where to post this question pero taking my chances. I just recently decided to migrate to AU and now Im in the process of processing my requirements. Meaning 0 pa lang talaga.

I am a graduate of BSECE however I am working in a Technical Call Center company (dealing more in Computer Networking related concerns, more on Network Infrastructure WAN, LAN, VLAN etc). I am a Manager now and been here for almost 10 years. I just want to ask some advice on which Assessment Group should I submit my Assessment Requirements? I'm kinda puzzled if I can submit it thru ACS and if ok, should I select "Skills Assessment" or "RPL Assessment".

If Engineers Australia, hindi ko naman pinapractice yung course ko. And I tried to check on Call Center Manager post, nakalagay VETSSESS ang Assessment Body for this employment.

Do you think I should go on ACS or VETASSESS? Also, confirm ko lang din. If I file for Skill Select Subclass 489 (my cousin is willing to sponsor me), yung 2 years na provision ba ay included na sa 4 years requirement for Citizenship? After the 2 years kase you can file for Permanent Residency 887 and use at least 2 years for the Citizenship.

Hope I can get responses from you experts

Thank you

bmc_cpu · August 2012

@Geoff Kung ano yung skill na i nonominate mo, pa assess ka dun sa corresponding assessing body. Kung may makita kang Skill na ACS ang assessing body at sa tingin mo malapit dun sa work mo, or previous responsibilities mo, then go for it. Like in my case, licensed ECE din po ako, pero malapit sa Software Engineer ang job ko, kaya yun ang ninominate ko at sa ACS ako nagpa-assess. Yun nga lang, 4 years ang required na experience for us ECE's kapag sa ACS, pero no need for RPL. IMO, mas matrabaho magpa assess sa EA dahil sa career episodes (explain mo talaga in detail yung engineering job) whereas sa ACS, compose mo lang yung duties and responsibilities in accordance dun sa definition ng Skill, at lagay mo sa Certificate of Employment (kasama ang ibang required na details like position, start/end dates, etc.), ok na. Positive naman yung result ko from ACS.

RobertSG · August 2012

@Geoff I am no expert, but I will try to give some inputs here. I recently submitted my application to ACS (I am a BSCOE graduate). What makes us common is, I also work from Technical Call Center company for 6yrs, now doing Desktop/Network/Software packaging Support for 2 years and had the same dilemma before my skill assessment submission ( I am still waiting for the result and keeping my positivity here).

The factor that help me decide to which assessment body I should submit my skill assessment is whether the occupation I want to be assess is in SOL (I am aiming for visa 189).

As for your case, if both occupation is in SOL you can go for VETASSESS as you have a higher chance of getting a positive assessment because of your work experience.

For your question "If I file for Skill Select Subclass 489 (my cousin is willing to sponsor me), yung 2 years na provision ba ay included na sa 4 years requirement for Citizenship?"
I don't know the answer. Hehehe!

Good luck to us!

Geoff · September 2012

Thanks @bmc_cpu and @RobertSG actually mas gusto ko magpa assess sa ACS, kase mas madali intindihin yung steps and requirements

I'm not that sure which occupation to select to nominate.

Another question would be, what's the difference between SOL and CSOL? According sa description ng mga visa kailangan mayroon kang inominate occupation na nasa SOL. If I'll be using my title now, wala siya sa SOL however nasa CSOL siya and VETASSESS nga daw ang dapat mag assess. Correct me if Im wrong, CSOL is only applicable if you will be nominated by a State or government, or looking further to enhance your skills by training. So meaning, hindi siya applicable sa akin if I am aiming for migrating and work permanently.

Do you think pwede ko inominate ang Computer Network and Systems Engineer for my qualifications?

For the document na needed, do we need to have it authenticated from Malacanang and DFA?

Thank you in advance