Unsuitable for Migration (ACS Result) :(

tiggeroo · March 2016

@ash hi sis, clear ko lang, ung mga work lang ung not closely related but in your letter did it state that you are "unsuitable for migration"?

ash · March 2016

@tiggeroo assessed as unsuitable for migration under 261112 (Systems Analyst) yan un exact na nklagay sa letter.

se29m · March 2016

@ash I think it depends on the school.. Try to do a flow chart for your tor, yung I define ang bawat subjects, baka maassess pa yan na bachelors.. Si boss @furano nagbanggit sakin nyan dati..

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ash · March 2016

@se29m nasa section 3 yun school ko, S.Y.2004 pa. medyo outdated na sa latest technology, itry ko na lang pa assess ulit, sana positive na, medyo kakalungkot lang pa ganun pala mareceived ng result at magastos. thanks :-)

tiggeroo · March 2016

@ash sis can you post more of your result letter? Baka ma identify natin if sa course/school or sa skill requirement ung pwede mapagkuhanan ng suitabikity. Im a bit confused lang sa previous post mo na assessed ka naman as AQF diploma equivalent?

ash · March 2016

@tiggeroo eto yun nsa letter , newbie pa lang ako sa pagproprocess kaya sobra confused tlga ako, thank u so much sa tulong.

Your ICT skills have been assessed as unsuitable for migration under 261112 (Systems Analyst) of the ANZSCO Code.
You have been assessed as not meeting the requirements for professional information technology experience of five (5) years in a field closely related to your nominated skilled occupation.

Your qualification has been assessed as follows:

Your Bachelor of Science from National College of Science and Technology completed March
2004 has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Diploma with a major in computing.
Your work experience has been calculated as follows on the basis of full time employment of at least
20hrs per week:

You have been assessed as not meeting the requirements for professional information technology
experience of five (5) years in a field closely related to your nominated skilled occupation.

Dates: 04/09 - 12/10 (0yrs 0mths)
Position: System Analyst - Not Closely Related to the Nominated ANZSCO

Dates: 01/11 - 02/16 (0yrs 0mths)
Position: Senior Media Monitoring Executive - Not Professional ICT Level Experience

tiggeroo · March 2016

@ash ung degree mo sis assessed as AQF Diploma, due to this, you will need 5 years worth of relevant work experience to satisfy the skill requirement for this. Then after the 5 years, suitable ka na, pero saka palang magsisimula ung bilang for skilled employment na may points.
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/7324/Summary-of-Criteria-2014.pdf

What you will have to work on here is your employment, either give more proof/COE/stat dec through an appeal na related talaga ung work mo sa Systems Analyst, or lipat ka ng occupation, given your course Business Analyst ang isang other option to get the same 5 year requirement, any other occupation "might" move it up to 6 years kasi magiging not closely related na un.
Pwede din reverse sis, based on your employment, doon hahanapin ung occupation (as opposed to the degree), pwede mag pa recommend sa ACS:
"Recommendation Fee
The ACS will provide a recommendation for unsuitable applications which can be rectified by a change in the nominated ANZSCO code or skills application type. Recommendations are not obligatory and applicants can choose to accept or reject any recommendation.
If the recommendation is accepted the applicant will be required to pay an additional $200 fee."

But since fresh pa ung application mo sis, I think pwede mo gawin ung ginawa ni threadstarter na nagemail sa ACS regarding the result kung bakit not closely related lahat ng employment. At this point hindi pa naman ito icoconsider na appeal/review.

ash · March 2016

@tiggeroo hi sis, thank u so much for the suggestions, itry ko sa Recommendation option or change na lng ako ng occupation :-)

guenb · April 2016

@ash hi sis nagreply na case officer mo? Naalala ko lang try mo search sa occupation list ng VETASSESS baka may mg match

https://www.vetassess.com.au/Portals/0/Downloads/qualification_assessment/VETASSESS-General-Occupation-List.pdf?vid=100
Good luck!

pinoytalker · June 2016

Hi guys. Ilang weeks bago niyo nareceive yung CS results niyo?

guenb · June 2016

@pinoytalker sakn 9days lang sia pero lately ngttgal na 2weeks yung result. Madami daw ngpapasa ngayong June.

eric290 · August 2016

Hi @pinoycoder. I hope naayos na ACS mo. I had the same results and nag send ako ng appeal to prove na may enough akong experience. Kasi code ko is 263111 and my school is included sa category 1 schools. Yung experience na binigay ko is 3years and 11months lang. So they required 4 years experience to make it suitable. Nagsend ako ng appeal enumerating why my course is closely related sa code ko.

In the end naging positive results and 2 years lang kinuha nilang experience.

benitos_jr · September 2016

@kittykitkat18 Hi Kitty, parang same scenario ako with your husband. If I am referring correctly at the timeline posted in all your comments. Same school, same course also ECE but my experience is more into IT.

Tanong ko lang, did he have to go through RPL?

Thanks!

kittykitkat18 · September 2016

@benitos_jr hndi sya nagRPL..comp network and sys engr din ba nominated occupation m?

benitos_jr · September 2016

@kittykitkat18 opo, 263111 din. Its good to know kung ganun, hindi na sya nag RPL. Worry ko kasi yang RPL. Im hoping na sana hindi na din ako dumaan dun.

kittykitkat18 · September 2016

@benitos_jr goodluck! Kaya yan..lets hope for the best

benitos_jr · September 2016

@benitos_jr Thanks Thanks!

multitasking · September 2016

@benitos_jr .. im also an ECE grad... then worked on IT.. din na ako nag RPL.. although that was 2012 pa..

benitos_jr · September 2016

@multitasking Thanks Thanks!

Zeroth_11 · March 2017

hello, pwede po kayang less than 1 year experience para makapasok sa au,
ECE grad with cisco certification, currently employed kaso less than 1 year palang

Zeroth_11 · March 2017

@kittykitkat18 hello, pwede pong less than 1 year expi ?

kittykitkat18 · March 2017

@Zeroth_11 not sure kng pde less than 1 yr...matgal tgal na kasi ako hndi updated sa acs..sa eoi lam ko kng lng kng wlang experience na credited bsta pasok pa din sa points

studio719 · March 2017

Zeroth_11 said:
hello, pwede po kayang less than 1 year experience para makapasok sa au,
ECE grad with cisco certification, currently employed kaso less than 1 year palang

baka malabo to. kasi minimum na dinededuct nila na alam ko is 2 years kung section 1 school and closely related ung course. i suggest you gain some more work experience first.

Zeroth_11 · March 2017

studio719 said:

Zeroth_11 said:
hello, pwede po kayang less than 1 year experience para makapasok sa au,
ECE grad with cisco certification, currently employed kaso less than 1 year palang
baka malabo to. kasi minimum na dinededuct nila na alam ko is 2 years kung section 1 school and closely related ung course. i suggest you gain some more work experience first.

wala po kayang way para mkpag work sa au ng less than 1 year expi ?

pinoycoder · April 2017

@Zeroth_11 slim chance, you should add more experience to your belt. just like what @studio719 said, minimum deduction of ACS is 2 years.

Unless you applied for a job directly from PH to AU, and the employer *really really* likes you, and chose to hire you instead of those who studied here for 4 years, spent boatload of cash in their studies and earn a little bit of experience during their internship.

you have 4 choices:

1. Study here and compete with other entry level graduates and other *experienced* professionals, Just an example: my housemate who is from dubai, studied here for 4 years, and until now he doesn't have a job, he's looking for more than a year now.
2. Earn more experience in PH - the same time you are also earning some bucks
3. Marry a local citizen
4. If you have relatives, pa sponsor ka nalang.

anyway, no matter what you choose, you still need to work hard. so yea, welcome to the real world.

von1xx · April 2017

@pinoycoder , hi boss ask ko ln about ACS application, Im ECE grad in section 2 school working in IT now. If lets say I do not have enough experience, considerable pdn ba for bachelor's degree ung course? and for EOI application kahit ndi ideclare ang 5 points for working experience kung hindi abot? tama po ba pagkaintindi ko?

And also, for job description gano po ba dapat kadetail? currently nagccollate nko ng papers ko and I have chance to write the job description for my COE.

Thanks in advance.

Heprex · April 2017

@von1xx I think the result of your assessment will be Unsuitable, since you do not meet the experience requirement. Just my 2cents. sasabihin sayo ni ACS na you do not meet the requirement of minimum employment experience. You can check the 1st page of this thread. just like @pinoycoder situation, he re-apply dahil kulang sya ng 4months sa total number of exp nya.

von1xx · April 2017

@Heprex , thanks sir sa reply, balak ko magpaassess by next year para total exp ko is 4 years 6months, nalilito ln ako sa assessment, yung ACS po ba is for 1. degree 2. work exp ang assessment? and no. 2 is kasama sa assessment for degree?

and dun po sa job description, ako po kasi pnpagawa then submit ko ln daw po sa HR para magawa po uli nila ung COE ko, gano po ba kadetail and pwede ko itailor sa aaplyan kong code?

Heprex · April 2017

@von1xx ACS will assess both education and work exp if education is related to ICT. If non ict related and education mo, and work exp lang ipapa-assess mo, then you will do it via RPL and 6 years ang needed exp at possible na madeduct.

Sa coe mo naman, kung ano mga gunagawa mo dun sa work mo. Yun ilista mo.

I match mo dun sa acs na pdf about description ng work. Hindi dapat ganun mismo, pero same field.

kwonshinhee · June 2017

Got assessment result today and unsuitable din.

Can somebody help me and advise if ipapa review or appeal ko pa?

Ganto case ko:

For some reason, ang sabi sa'kin is 8 years kailangan work experience, when I have a degree (Non-ICT) from a section 1 school. If I remember correctly, ang sabi dapat is 6 years lang pag non-ICT degree.

Have put the below job descriptions (which I and my agent were confident na pwede sa System Anayst), all zero years zero months:

Employer 1 - Nov 2010 - Mar 2012
Analyzes corporate financial statements (Income Statement, Balance Sheet, Cash Flow Statement) and process financial information from company statements for U.S. and major global stock exchanges, inputs into system tool. Works with Methods Team to formulate and document tool inefficiencies, errors, and user requirements. Tests new updates / versions of Estimates tool to collect forecasted financial results provided by analysts and researchers for worldwide companies; Responsible to follow all rules related to work procedures and propose / undergo additional system training when needed or if information is unclear. Provides most accurate information with best timeliness possible. Identifies and communicates with other teams to produce feedback and propose modifications on existing Estimates tool to create more efficient solutions. Responsible for maintaining confidentiality of information dealt with.

Employer 2 -Oct 2012 - Jul 2014

Ensures quality of data across the tool and the database. Ensures that the rates are competitive to industry standards, operations cost-wise, responsible for Service Performance Reviews, escalates foreseen critical and system and internal customer-related issues to management. Works with users to document and report business requirements. Tracks other potential service opportunities and assist in work creation/migration, and protects the integrity of Personal Data when handling, processing and accessing Personally Identifiable Information (PII).

Employer 3 - Jul 2014 - Present

Ensures that sufficient controls and reviews are in place for the balance sheet review. This covers system monitoring in of ownership allocation of accounts, ensuring correct accesses are in place for e-reconciliation system users, working with users to document and report business requirements. Generates monthly and daily reports for monitoring of accounts. Carefully monitors account submissions, monthly reporting of reconciliation results and reporting inefficiencies in system. Coordinates various account control-related activities in eRecon system at a regional level such as account ownership and transfers, as well as benchmark validations. Makes sure that all accounts are reported in the system, provides users with guidance for access, usage, and submission in the system using procedure manuals and screen sharing. Works to propose “Bright Ideas” / system and software solutions to make current process in e-Recon Account Assignment and Monitoring more efficient. Follows up on any unassigned accounts, unreported accounts, or accounts that are not in compliance with e-Recon system reporting requirements.

Can you advise if dapat ba bawasan 'yung nakalagay na description, there are snippets there na match naman talaga sa System analyst description as per ANZSCO, pero baka tinamad na basahin kasi sobrang dami? Detalyado kasi lahat. Or is it really not fit for system analyst?

Posting here, will talk to my agent this week, but I want to know if ever kung ano dapat kong iexpect, if you could advise. Thank you so much, sorry ang haba