To include my family or not in the application? Difference between 189 and 190

WantToMigrate · November 2017

Need ko po ng advice. Ang circumstances ko at ng family ko ay maayos naman dito sa HK, I earn annually converted na ay 84,000 AUD. My tax is around 1200 AUD per year only.
Free education for my 3 year old son. Free health care din naman dito HK(pero not high quality).

Nag apply ako ng 189 visa pero ang gusto ko sana if ever ay itry muna ako mag isa magka visa.
Then hanap work sa Australia pero I won't resign here in HK magleleave lang ako.
If makahanap, then I will apply the visa for my family(they will stay in HK until then).
Another option ko ay include them sa visa application ko right now pero medyo magastos.

Ang concern ko po ay ung duration ng application ng visa ng family ko if ever na mauna ko kumuha ng visa ko. Matagal ba bago ko sila makuha?

May difference ba kung 190 visa kunin vs 189 in terms of visa application for my family?
Ano po ba ang magandang strategy dito?

heycoachputmein · November 2017

when you apply for a permanent visa, you will be asked to provide a list of non-traveling dependents.
when you have been granted a permanent visa and have decided to bring your family in AU, the AU Immi will use the list you provided in your previous application as their basis.

Matagal ba? yes, because they will have to undergo medical (if required), provide documents etc etc. I-add mo pa yung 'standard processing times' ng AU immi then will be for a significant amount of time.

diff between 190 vs 189 in terms of your family's visa applications? NONE as far as I know.

jenlara · December 2017

Considered po ba ang parent (mom) na 60y/o retired from govt institution? How many years po kaya ang process and what kind of visa need iapply? Thankyouu!

batman · December 2017

@WantToMigrate just an opinion/comment:

if you are interested to migrate make sure you have concrete reason why. once you started your plan theres no looking back. pero kong nanghihinanyang ka sa maiiwan mong kinikita baka di kapa ganun ka decided.

I don't think its a good idea na leave muna tpos hanap work kasi yung eagerness mo na maka hanap ng work doon wont be 100% kasi alam mo may babalikan ka pa. this just my opinion din. since gumastos ka na kumuha ng PR visa focus ka na sa new life in new location.

better kasama na family sa application. pede naman sila maiwan pero with visa na. if yun ang plano nyo.

189 and 190 same process and requirements. afaik.

try consult professionals (agents) to get also professional advice on top of information here.

AustralianDreamVisa · December 2017

jenlara said:
Considered po ba ang parent (mom) na 60y/o retired from govt institution? How many years po kaya ang process and what kind of visa need iapply? Thankyouu!

Are you planning to include your mom as a dependent in your visa application? or do you already have a visa and looking for visa options for your mom?

AustralianDreamVisa · December 2017

WantToMigrate said:
Need ko po ng advice. Ang circumstances ko at ng family ko ay maayos naman dito sa HK, I earn annually converted na ay 84,000 AUD. My tax is around 1200 AUD per year only.
Free education for my 3 year old son. Free health care din naman dito HK(pero not high quality).

Nag apply ako ng 189 visa pero ang gusto ko sana if ever ay itry muna ako mag isa magka visa.
Then hanap work sa Australia pero I won't resign here in HK magleleave lang ako.
If makahanap, then I will apply the visa for my family(they will stay in HK until then).
Another option ko ay include them sa visa application ko right now pero medyo magastos.

Ang concern ko po ay ung duration ng application ng visa ng family ko if ever na mauna ko kumuha ng visa ko. Matagal ba bago ko sila makuha?

May difference ba kung 190 visa kunin vs 189 in terms of visa application for my family?
Ano po ba ang magandang strategy dito?

tama si @batman, walang difference and 190 at 189 in terms of family.

For me, its better to include them in your application now. It will be more costly and the pathway to PR for your wife and kid will be longer if you include them later on. Partner application costs ~7k tapos processing time is more or less 2 years Temporary visa pa lang un. while if you qualify for 189/190 now you can include them as dependents for ~3k AUD (wife + kid)

mhej · December 2017

depende sa role mo and if income is foremost. sa liit ng tax mo diyan sa HK, mas malaki pa rin in effect ang take home pay mo vs what you will earn here. Unless of course, yung work mo diyan, when translated to Australia is more than $84K per annum significantly (ie. $150K+)

WantToMigrate · December 2017

Tama po kayo, hindi ako 100% na decided na mag migrate sa Australia unang una na ung iiwan ko na buhay dito sa HK.
Pangalawa din po ung mga nababasa ko sa forums at quora n mahirap maghanap ng work if walang local(Australian) work experience sa mga first timers.
I will include my family sa application as adviced.
Medyo malaki laking gastos nga pala talaga to.
Salamat po sa mga advice.