Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

vannsia · March 2019

jaybee said:
hi guys.. pa help naman. need ko tulong, regarding kung saan pwede pagawa cdr. may na draft na ako hindi ko lang matapos tapos kasi sobrang busy ng work..

Thanks po in advance..

Hi @jaybee I suggest you make your own CDR, from MSA booklet "The career episode, being written in your own words, will also provide evidence to the assessor of your communication skills" mahirap pa baka ung gagawa ng CDR mo eh magcopy lang from other sources, magaling magcheck ang EA ng plagiarism. So I suggest complete your CDR, then ipaproof read mo lang. But as much as possible do it on your own, use the instruction as your guide. Just my two-cents.

ms_ane · March 2019

@jaybee I agree with @vannsia - you can never be sure sa mga CDR services - kasi most likely generic information lang ang macoconstruct nila for you. Imagine it as someone who will do the project report for you, para sa isang project na very little information lang ang meron sya - sounds not right I think. parang hindi feasible and hindi nya macacapture yung essence ng project na ginawa mo and even though they guarantee na they won’t copy - you can’t be certain on that. Upon review and then EA flags your cdr as similar to other cdr’s - medyo mahirap iexplain yan and you will take the blame on that kasi di mo naman din pede sabihin sa EA na “pinagawa ko lang yan”.

Honestly, lahat tayo busy sa work - but if you really want this - you will make and sacrifice time, we all did here sa forum - and kung naitawid namin, kayang kaya mo din syempre!

CDR preparation and completion is a way of selling yourself as an Engineer as well. Mas less yung kaba knowing na you gave your all and talagang pinagbuti mo ang pagprepare nito. Tayo nga na mismong nag take ng lead sa project, oftentimes we find ourselves na nahihirapan to put together our cdrs, yung mga third party services pa kaya? lalo na pagdating sa summary statement - dun ako kinomang maigi e.
Kaya mo iyan kapatid. Paglaanan lang ng oras and identify your goals and priorities. Gawin ang drafts ng cdr before and while on the way to work, during lunchbreak, at pauwi sa bahay. ganyan ang ginawa ko plus on weekends I’ll ask my family na we can go outside pero tambay muna sa coffeeshop (dala dala ko ang CDR notebook ko palagi)

ms_ane · March 2019

@jaybee and cdr services doesn’t come cheap. sayang pera

zirko · March 2019

ms_ane said:
@jaybee I agree with @vannsia - you can never be sure sa mga CDR services - kasi most likely generic information lang ang macoconstruct nila for you. Imagine it as someone who will do the project report for you, para sa isang project na very little information lang ang meron sya - sounds not right I think. parang hindi feasible and hindi nya macacapture yung essence ng project na ginawa mo and even though they guarantee na they won’t copy - you can’t be certain on that. Upon review and then EA flags your cdr as similar to other cdr’s - medyo mahirap iexplain yan and you will take the blame on that kasi di mo naman din pede sabihin sa EA na “pinagawa ko lang yan”.

Honestly, lahat tayo busy sa work - but if you really want this - you will make and sacrifice time, we all did here sa forum - and kung naitawid namin, kayang kaya mo din syempre!

CDR preparation and completion is a way of selling yourself as an Engineer as well. Mas less yung kaba knowing na you gave your all and talagang pinagbuti mo ang pagprepare nito. Tayo nga na mismong nag take ng lead sa project, oftentimes we find ourselves na nahihirapan to put together our cdrs, yung mga third party services pa kaya? lalo na pagdating sa summary statement - dun ako kinomang maigi e.

Kaya mo iyan kapatid. Paglaanan lang ng oras and identify your goals and priorities. Gawin ang drafts ng cdr before and while on the way to work, during lunchbreak, at pauwi sa bahay. ganyan ang ginawa ko plus on weekends I’ll ask my family na we can go outside pero tambay muna sa coffeeshop (dala dala ko ang CDR notebook ko palagi)

This sums it all up

Thanks @ms_ane .

datch29 · March 2019

Got my positive skill assessment today from EA.

Bachelor degree
Professional Engineer - Production and Plant Engineer
RSEA - 8 Years

Salamat sa tulong at pag sagot sa mga tanong ko @jijolly @donyx @JHONIEL @ms_ane @hopeful_Z @gibo43 @zirko @zyrita

hopeful_Z · March 2019

@datch29 congrats sir!

ms_ane · March 2019

congrats @datch29 - berigud!

JHONIEL · March 2019

@datch29 congrats bro! Submit ka na ng EOI

donyx · March 2019

congats! @datch29 EOI ka na

mamertz · March 2019

Congrats @datch29
Sa tagumpay ng isa, nakikiisa ang lahat sa kasiyahan.

Good luck and God bless sa next step.

tigerlance · March 2019

@zirko

zirko said:

jonathan7082 said:
@zirko Sir good day..question lang po regarding sa reference letter. Enough na po ba yun letter to be printed in a band paper kahit hindi na ba sa letter head ng dati mong company? Can you share please sample of your reference letter..Thanks and hoping for your response.
Hi @jonathan7082 I assume you already read through this - https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/sites/default/files/Membership/MSA/MSA Booklet March 2018 03102018.pdf

At Page 28:

1. PRIMARY DOCUMENTS
Reference letter on official company letterhead to:
 Indicate 5 main duties undertaken, job title or
position;
 Indicate the exact period of employment
(commencement and completion dates);
 Be endorsed and dated by the manager/direct
supervisor/HR Section (with official telephone & email
address);
 Indicate full or part-time with number of work hours;
 Pay rate;
 Include the company’s stamp if applicable

If without letterhead, then it is not a reference letter as above. Your next option is a statutory declaration by your manager or senior colleague.

Ang hirap kunin itong part na ito, paghihinalaan ka talaga na aalis ka sa company. Dapat
may batas, na pwede silang magbigay ng ganito yearly hehe

jsjabaan · March 2019

Hello po! Question lang po. Im currently preparing my List of Continuing Professional Development (CPD) po. I had my Cisco Certification for three years (2015-2018). D ko na po narenew or d na ako nakapag take to advance my certification. Is it ok to include expired certification sa CPD ko po. Thank you.

mugsy27 · March 2019

@jsjabaan sa pagkakaalam ko po CPD are trainings, seminars or even self studies (relating to your work) that you did during your employment, pero tignan naten comments ng ibang members na batikan na hehehe

zirko · March 2019

jsjabaan said:
Hello po! Question lang po. Im currently preparing my List of Continuing Professional Development (CPD) po. I had my Cisco Certification for three years (2015-2018). D ko na po narenew or d na ako nakapag take to advance my certification. Is it ok to include expired certification sa CPD ko po. Thank you.

@jsjabaan Mention the title of training attended towards that certification, rather than the certification itself. In my case, the CPD list that I submitted was all trainings and seminars. Certificates were enumerated in my CV.

donyx · March 2019

@jsjabaan I included some certificate courses sa CPD pero these courses are different from Cisco, more on DCS at PLC programming yung sakin and walang expiry. I even included fire fighting training for industrial plants and some personal development programs, wala naman naging issue kay EA.

jsjabaan · March 2019

Thanks for the input @zirko and @donyx. For my expired Cisco certification kasi ng self study lang ako bale books and mga videos lang and forums. Im not sure pano ko mailalagay un sa CPD hahaha!

jsjabaan · March 2019

Additional question po. Sa summary statement po kasi eto nalang d ko nafifillout. Any simplified explantion po kung ano po sana ibig sabihin ng mga items na yan. Thank you!

PE2.3 Application of systematic engineering synthesis and design processes
PE2.4 Application of systematic approaches to the conduct and management of engineering projects

donyx · March 2019

@jsjabaan pwede mo indicate yung number of hours na ginawa mo on your self study.

jsjabaan · March 2019

@mugsy27 un nga po eh! most of mga CPD na pwede ko ilagay eh self study. Im not sure po pano ko un ilalagay na date, venue and duration hehehe! I even applied for short courses tru coursera kaso d ko mga natapos haha.

zirko · March 2019

jsjabaan said:
Additional question po. Sa summary statement po kasi eto nalang d ko nafifillout. Any simplified explantion po kung ano po sana ibig sabihin ng mga items na yan. Thank you!

PE2.3 Application of systematic engineering synthesis and design processes
PE2.4 Application of systematic approaches to the conduct and management of engineering projects

PE2.3 Application of systematic engineering synthesis and design processes
-Hardcore engineering.

PE2.4 Application of systematic approaches to the conduct and management of engineering projects
- Soft skills, e.g. project management, engineering economy, sustainability, etc.

herlynD · March 2019

Good day everyone po

meron na po ba dito mga mechenaical engr na ngpaassess lng for membership sa EA?
hingi lng po sana ako ng opinion and advise nyo kung worth it ba na mgpamember pa sa EA para may advantage kahit pano sa job hunting pagdating ng AU?

anastasia.salvador · March 2019

Pa advice naman po. Baka may similar sa case ko. Ang work ko po is QC Engineer sa gas company. I am planning to have my skills assessed as Production Engineer I have experience in handling calibration of equipment as well. Then the rest more on project management na experience ko and QA/QC, pwede ko po kaya ilagay sa CDR yung mga projects done for customer? Like fabrication of skids/installation of pipelines..

mugsy27 · March 2019

jsjabaan said:
@mugsy27 un nga po eh! most of mga CPD na pwede ko ilagay eh self study. Im not sure po pano ko un ilalagay na date, venue and duration hehehe! I even applied for short courses tru coursera kaso d ko mga natapos haha.

gawan mo na lang ng estimate... ganun din nmn ginawa ko dati..

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donyx · March 2019

@anastasia.salvador pwedeng pwede po yan. similar background here, yun nga lang kami ang client ng EPC during the expansion project ng refinery. I included 1 CE na part nung expansion project na yun, I was an instrumentation engr that time. A part of my role is to do SATs and QA/QC particularly sa construction works at bench calibration ng field instruments prior site installation. You can include that experience, for sure.

enginiyer · March 2019

datch29 said:
To All,

Info lang po baka may naka miss out.

Engineers Australia will be upgrading its IT infrastructure at the end of March.

When will this happen?

Engineers Australia’s online portal will be temporarily made unavailable during 22- 25 March. During this time, you will not be able to log in to EA’s Portal to initiate, submit or continue your application.

How will this impact me?

If you intend to initiate a new application, we recommend that you postpone initiating your application until 1 April, at which time all maintenance operations will be finalised. However, we are aware that delaying is not always an acceptable option. In this case, please make sure you finish your submission and pay for your application before 22 March.
If you have an unsubmitted (unpaid) application that remains so after 22 March, your application will be cancelled. If you wish to pursue your current unsubmitted application, we recommend that you finish and submit it before this date. Otherwise you will need to lodge the application again once the services are restored.
If you have lodged an application prior to 22 March or have an in-progress application in the system before this date, the assessors will continue to process your application and will communicate with you via email to ask for additional information when required. Once these applications are completed you will receive the outcome as usual.
If you are not under strong time constraints we recommend postponing submitting any new applications until 1 April. This will minimise the impact on your applications.

https://engineersaustralia.org.au/For-Migrants/Migration-Skills-Assessment/Migration-Announcements

Hello mga sir! I am new to this and planning to migrate in OZ, I read the statement of sir datch29 so I will postpone my application for assessment. Any new advise or tips po para sa newbie? Bale April 2 nako mag start nang application. Maraming salamat sa inyo!

donyx · March 2019

@enginiyer firstly check mo yung skill na mostly appropriate sa background mo. (https://www.anzscosearch.com/11-march-update/) In parallel, check mo na rin yung points na kailangan mo for that skill kung ano ang minimum points na kailangan para ma-invite and check kung ilang points na ang pwede mo makuha on your current status. (https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/skilled-independent-189/points-table)

Then prepare the requirements for the assessment. Kung EA ang assessing body ng skill mo, prepare the necessary documents for skills assessment particularly yung Competency Demonstration Report (CDR) and English exam. Lahat po ng requirements mababasa mo sa MSA Booklet ng Engineers Australia. (https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/sites/default/files/2018-04/MSA Booklet - March 2018.pdf)

Kapag may positive outcome na ang skills assessment, you can now submit an Expression of Interest (EOI).

mister.hyde · March 2019

Hi Everyone, newbie here. Sorry, hindi ko sure if appropriate to ask this question sa thread. If not pasensiya na in advance. So, nagpprepare po sana ako for acs skill assessment. 2 of my previous employers ceased operations na. Pero naka-usap ko HR managers and willing sila to provide reference letter with letterhead. Pwede ko ba gamitin yun for assessment even though dated siya recently and closed na yung company? Again, sorry if wrong thread po. Thank you!

enginiyer · March 2019

@donyx napaka helpful mo talaga sir.. Ask ko lang bakit nag PTE-A ka pa po?

donyx · March 2019

@enginiyer hindi kasi enough yung IELTS ko para makakuha ng superior score kaya kumuha ako ng PTE-A. Ginamit ko lang yung IELTS para sa sa english requirement ng EA.