Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

phoenix325 · August 2019

Hello po. Ask ko lang po if pwede po ba magpa access ung Computer Engineer sa EA? thanks po sa sasagot.

donyx · August 2019

hi @phoenix325 check mo yung skillcode ng computer engineer dito https://www.anzscosearch.com/mltssl/ para magkaroon ka ng idea kung ano ang assessing body para sa skill na yan. minsan kasi depende rin sa background ng work mo. kung leaning towards engineering at stated na kay EA, go with EA. pero kung leaning towards IT, baka mas appropriate sa ACS.

phoenix325 · August 2019

@donyx said:

hi @phoenix325 check mo yung skillcode ng computer engineer dito https://www.anzscosearch.com/mltssl/ para magkaroon ka ng idea kung ano ang assessing body para sa skill na yan. minsan kasi depende rin sa background ng work mo. kung leaning towards engineering at stated na kay EA, go with EA. pero kung leaning towards IT, baka mas appropriate sa ACS.

Thank you sa input sir. Meron kasi ako agent, sabi nya sa EA daw ako magpa assess. More on IT ung job ko. Mas malaki daw kasi ang chance pag sa EA. Pero nagkakaproblem ako pag gawa ng CDR. ndi ko xa matapos tapos.

donyx · August 2019

@phoenix325 na check nyo na po ba yung MSA booklet? May guide dun para sa buong EA assessment process even paggawa ng CDR and summary statement, baka po makatulong sa inyo para ma-align mo yung skills mo sa requirement ni EA.

jakibantiles · August 2019

Hello po! Mechanical Engineer here. Share ko lang po yung docs and info na sinubmit ko for reference ng mga nasa same category. (Sorry na po agad kung medyo magulo ✌)

Applied for MSA CDR Professional Engr ANZSCO 233512 with Relevant Skills
Date submitted: June 30, 2019
Received outcome letter: Aug 7, 2019

Reason why medyo matagal kahit fast track:
1) July na yata ang pinaka busy nilang season.
2) Vinerify yung school ko sa Dept of Education nila kasi hindi daw listed sa "Country Education Profile"

IELTS - 6.5/6.5/7.5/8.0
PTE - 77/75/77/56
(8 ako sa speaking ng IELTS pero 56 sa PTE! Hahahaha! Ganun kalala pag computer based speaking 😅)
Weekend before exam ako nagreview kaya di talaga pumasok sa superior. Magtetake ulit ako ng PTE para mamax out yung score! Pero sa Johor Bahru na kasi mas mura pa kesa sa pinas at dito sa SG! 4k+ din ang matitipid! Kailangan talaga seryoso sa english test lalo na para sa mga tulad kong konti pa lang ang yrs of work experience. Yan tuloy take 3 hahaha

Naka 4 jobs na ako, 1yr sa Pinas, 3yrs dito sa Singapore. Nilagay ko sa CV ko yung work exp ko from internship to current job. Pero hindi ako nagpasa ng docs para sa 1st and 2nd job ko dun sa employment part sa EA portal.
Hindi ko na sinama yung 1st and 2nd job since tig 2 and 3mos lang yun at hindi ako makapagprovide ng solid na docs at medyo hassle. Nag-alangan ako dun kasi sabi sa MSA kailangan iindicate pati yung period of inactivity, so akala ko kailangan magbigay ng proof ng employment kahit di kasama sa CE. Hindi naman naquestion ng CO.

Total of 4yrs yung work exp ko from CE1
to CE3.
CE1 - about sa completed project na hinandle ko on my 3rd job
CE2 - about sa completed project sa current (4th) job
CE3 - about sa ongoing project sa 4th job

Tips sa paggawa ng CE:
Basahin mabuti yung hinihingi sa summary statement. Dun magbase ng isusulat para may solid na content pag irereflect na sa summary.

Primary Docs:
3rd & 4th job - letter of endorsement and cert of employment

Secondary docs:
3rd job - SSS & Philhealth (yan lang talaga!)
4th job - Work pass in-principle approval from govt (Singapore), work pass, payslips (1 month each year + latest one)

Hindi pa ako maglalodge since magpapa assess pa si hubby for Engineering Technologist. Baka may tips po kayo jan! 😄

Salamat! Nawa'y makatulong. God bless sa lahat! 😊

castm007 · August 2019

> @ms_ane said:
> @cascade wala naman pirmahan siguro (pero wait natin mga kapareho mo na magpapa pick up sa sss). Authorization lang pede na siguro. Atsaka try mo online mas less hassle

Hi @ms_ane good morning uhmm ask ko lang po if meron minimum sss contribution required for the assessment thank you po...

ms_ane · August 2019

hello

@castm007

your assessing body is not after the amount of contribution pero more like looking at it as a proof of employment - so mas mahalaga na if you declared 5 years of work experience sa company A - e maipapakita mo ito sa iyong SSS summary na may reflected contribution ka for 5 years for Company A.

> @castm007 said:
> > @ms_ane said:

>
> Hi @ms_ane good morning uhmm ask ko lang po if meron minimum sss contribution required for the assessment thank you po...
>
>

castm007 · August 2019

Thank @ms_ane for the reply..ahh yung sss contribution is docs long po for local employment...
May i ask narin po @ms_ane lubusin ko na hahaha...ive been working sa iisang company po for 14yrs...nagstart po ako as tech then naging engineer electronic manufacturing po ang company ko...pano po kaya ang career episode ko nun...if may idea po kau...thanks po ulit

ms_ane · August 2019

@castm007 said:

Thank @ms_ane for the reply..ahh yung sss contribution is docs long po for local employment...
May i ask narin po @ms_ane lubusin ko na hahaha...ive been working sa iisang company po for 14yrs...nagstart po ako as tech then naging engineer electronic manufacturing po ang company ko...pano po kaya ang career episode ko nun...if may idea po kau...thanks po ulit

no worries since ang work experience assessment is focused on current 10 years of experience, mas preferable na you recall yung projects na na-lead mo within the 10 year period and yun ang gamitin / i present mo for your career episode.

naigeru09 · August 2019

> @jakibantiles said:
> Hello po! Mechanical Engineer here. Share ko lang po yung docs and info na sinubmit ko for reference ng mga nasa same category. (Sorry na po agad kung medyo magulo ✌)
>
> Applied for MSA CDR Professional Engr ANZSCO 233512 with Relevant Skills
> Date submitted: June 30, 2019
> Received outcome letter: Aug 7, 2019
>
> Reason why medyo matagal kahit fast track:
> 1) July na yata ang pinaka busy nilang season.
> 2) Vinerify yung school ko sa Dept of Education nila kasi hindi daw listed sa "Country Education Profile"
>
> IELTS - 6.5/6.5/7.5/8.0
> PTE - 77/75/77/56
> (8 ako sa speaking ng IELTS pero 56 sa PTE! Hahahaha! Ganun kalala pag computer based speaking 😅)
> Weekend before exam ako nagreview kaya di talaga pumasok sa superior. Magtetake ulit ako ng PTE para mamax out yung score! Pero sa Johor Bahru na kasi mas mura pa kesa sa pinas at dito sa SG! 4k+ din ang matitipid! Kailangan talaga seryoso sa english test lalo na para sa mga tulad kong konti pa lang ang yrs of work experience. Yan tuloy take 3 hahaha
>
> Naka 4 jobs na ako, 1yr sa Pinas, 3yrs dito sa Singapore. Nilagay ko sa CV ko yung work exp ko from internship to current job. Pero hindi ako nagpasa ng docs para sa 1st and 2nd job ko dun sa employment part sa EA portal.
> Hindi ko na sinama yung 1st and 2nd job since tig 2 and 3mos lang yun at hindi ako makapagprovide ng solid na docs at medyo hassle. Nag-alangan ako dun kasi sabi sa MSA kailangan iindicate pati yung period of inactivity, so akala ko kailangan magbigay ng proof ng employment kahit di kasama sa CE. Hindi naman naquestion ng CO.
>
> Total of 4yrs yung work exp ko from CE1
> to CE3.
> CE1 - about sa completed project na hinandle ko on my 3rd job
> CE2 - about sa completed project sa current (4th) job
> CE3 - about sa ongoing project sa 4th job
>
> Tips sa paggawa ng CE:
> Basahin mabuti yung hinihingi sa summary statement. Dun magbase ng isusulat para may solid na content pag irereflect na sa summary.
>
> Primary Docs:
> 3rd & 4th job - letter of endorsement and cert of employment
>
> Secondary docs:
> 3rd job - SSS & Philhealth (yan lang talaga!)
> 4th job - Work pass in-principle approval from govt (Singapore), work pass, payslips (1 month each year + latest one)
>
> Hindi pa ako maglalodge since magpapa assess pa si hubby for Engineering Technologist. Baka may tips po kayo jan! 😄
>
> Salamat! Nawa'y makatulong. God bless sa lahat! 😊

Hello,

Ask ko lang if current job ang ginamit mo, pano ang coe and cdr mo nun? from certain date to present and date ? thanks sa response

jakibantiles · August 2019

@naigeru09
>Hello,

>Ask ko lang if current job ang ginamit mo, pano ang coe and cdr mo nun? from certain date to present and date ? thanks sa response

Hi po. Tama po, yung COE ko "currently an employee of (company) since (commencement date)" yung nilagay ng HR namin. Tapos yung CDR ko nilagay ko rin yung commencement date ng project. Sinabi ko na 75% ng project na yung nahandover at na commission ko.

naigeru09 · August 2019

@jakibantiles thanks a lot po.

RheaMARN1171933 · August 2019

> @taeka_231229 said:
> Hi po! Hihingi lang po ng advise. Nagpasa po kasi ako ng assessment for mechanical engineer pero ito po yung binigay na sagot ng EA:
>
> "You have almost no CPD in mechanical engineering after finishing your bachelor degree and don't seem to have any work experience working as a professional mechanical engineer. Therefore, provided you submit the information requested above, your application will be considered for an outcome of Engineering Technologist (233914)."
>
> Aminado naman po ako na more on sales yung experience ko back in the Philippines. May other way pa po kaya para maconsider ako sa me? pareassess or magpasa ng new career episode? huhu pls help po. Maraming salamat po!

If that’s the case, you might just want to settle with Engineering Technologist since the reality, as what you mentioned, you’ve got not much experience as mechanical engineer. Hence, there is nothing more evidence you can provide. Engineering technologist isn’t too bad, at the moment you’ve got ACT and Victoria as options. Good luck

datch29 · August 2019

Question lang po,

If na assess kana ni EA as professional engineer pwede ka ba ulit mag pa assess pero ibang field of engineering naman?

Salamat po sa sasagot.

jkk32w · August 2019

@phoenix325 said:

Hello po. Ask ko lang po if pwede po ba magpa access ung Computer Engineer sa EA? thanks po sa sasagot.

check if your experience fits the 'computer network and systems engineer' skill. i have a friend na comp e and more on network /IT configurations sia and he went thru ACS for skills assessment. na credit nmn lahat ng experience nia for the skill. eto ung anzsco job desc ng 263111 skill-
Plans, develops, deploys, tests and optimises network and system services, taking responsibility for configuration management and overall operational readiness of network systems, especially environments with multiple operating systems and configurations, and provides troubleshooting and fault-finding services for network problems.

goodluck!

jkk32w · August 2019

@zoe2020 said:

Hello po, ask ko lang po ano po ba ang maximum points you can get from Engineers Australia for Mechanical engineer. Thanks po sa makakasagot.

8yrs above experience as an overseas engineer = 15 pts

8yrs above experience as an australian engineer = 20 pts

phoenix325 · August 2019

@jkk32w said:

@phoenix325 said:

Hello po. Ask ko lang po if pwede po ba magpa access ung Computer Engineer sa EA? thanks po sa sasagot.

check if your experience fits the 'computer network and systems engineer' skill. i have a friend na comp e and more on network /IT configurations sia and he went thru ACS for skills assessment. na credit nmn lahat ng experience nia for the skill. eto ung anzsco job desc ng 263111 skill-
Plans, develops, deploys, tests and optimises network and system services, taking responsibility for configuration management and overall operational readiness of network systems, especially environments with multiple operating systems and configurations, and provides troubleshooting and fault-finding services for network problems.

goodluck!

thanks for your input Sir! Will ask my agent if it will suits my experience.

danj · August 2019

Hi all! I got a positive skills assessment from EA last May 2019. My occupation is IE. Nagpa-add din ako ng assessment for relevant skills to be sure. I was claiming for 5.5 years of relevant experience, which was in a local bank doing IE work i.e., process improvements, Lean Six Sigma. But I was devastated to find out that EA did not recognize those years of experience as relevant to IE. I provided detailed reference letters and 2/3 career episodes related to that bank but I was really surprised why it was not acknowledged as relevant. The assessor sent me a note saying "Please note that work experience in the finance/banking industry will NOT be recognized as relevant skill experience for Industrial Engineer. Please let me know your awareness of this to proceed." I responded that I was not aware of such industry restrictions but the final report still did not reflect my experience. As expected, I didn't get any word from the assessor.

A few questions:

1) Does anybody here know about such industry restrictions for IEs? Anyone here had a similar experience before?

2) Do you suggest that I push for an informal review with EA?

3) Can I claim those 5.5 years of experience once I lodge my EOI, despite the EA result not indicating such years of experience? I understand that DHA will do their own assessment. Is this an accurate statement?

Appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks in advance!

ms_ane · August 2019

hello @danj - thanks for sharing. IE din ako and here are my answers.

A few questions:

1) Does anybody here know about such industry restrictions for IEs? Anyone here had a similar experience before?
- Hindi din ako aware na may industry restrictions pala. As an IE, we pride ourselves for our ability and flexibility to be in whatever industry we like to join in. We can enter finance, manufacturing, technology /IT - maski sa ospital or sa airport - maraming nagagawa at na cocontribute ang IE and are able to excel.
The only explanation I can possibly think is that, for some of these industries (ex banking/ finance) - restrictive ang maari natin ma contribute and the full potential of being an industrial engineer is not exercised. Considering the job description that has been set for Industrial Engineers, only 1 out of the 9 job description ang possibly covered ng experience ng isang IE sa bank/finance industry and this is for below

Establishing work measurement programs and analysing work samples to develop standards for labour utilisation

Similar to your experience for process improvement and Lean Six Sigma.

2) Do you suggest that I push for an informal review with EA?
- EA already provided an answer to your question but it won’t hurt if you would like to have clarification. Para sa iyong peace of mind, knowing na you did everything that you could.

3) Can I claim those 5.5 years of experience once I lodge my EOI, despite the EA result not indicating such years of experience? I understand that DHA will do their own assessment. Is this an accurate statement?

- I don’t recommend claiming for this experience. It will be too risky and may cause you to commit over claiming of points and eventually having your visa application rejected.
May instance recently na approved ng EA ang work experience pero rejected sa DHA.
It is true that DHA conducts their own assessment.
In your case na hindi approved ng EA, it would be too risky to claim for the experience and have DHA decide.
Try to think of it this way, ano ang posibleng mangyari or magbago for DHA to consider your experience given na meron na silang sinusunod na basis na “ experience in banking/ finance is not considered as skilled experience for Industrial Engineer”.
Naka mark na ito sa recent EA application mo whereby the CO have access to and can have another check.

Overall - AU is seeking for skilled experience, and not just work experience. Yan ang ma consider naten as reason.

Find other means to increase your points kung kaya pa. Sayang ang 5 years of experience pero sad to say there’s no way na you could have known of this beforehand, maski ako nagulat. Ano pa kaya ang ibang industry na di pasok? I guess this is something that an experience migration agent would know.

Best of luck sa iyong susunod na steps.

MaceyV · August 2019

Hi! tanong ko lang po if pwede ba ako magpa assess sa EA, I am a graduate of BS in Computing Major in Information Management pero ang work experience ay more than 7 yrs na sa ICT / Telecom Engineer.
Anyone with the same status as I am?

danj · August 2019

@ms_ane said:

hello @danj - thanks for sharing. IE din ako and here are my answers.

A few questions:

1) Does anybody here know about such industry restrictions for IEs? Anyone here had a similar experience before?
- Hindi din ako aware na may industry restrictions pala. As an IE, we pride ourselves for our ability and flexibility to be in whatever industry we like to join in. We can enter finance, manufacturing, technology /IT - maski sa ospital or sa airport - maraming nagagawa at na cocontribute ang IE and are able to excel.
The only explanation I can possibly think is that, for some of these industries (ex banking/ finance) - restrictive ang maari natin ma contribute and the full potential of being an industrial engineer is not exercised. Considering the job description that has been set for Industrial Engineers, only 1 out of the 9 job description ang possibly covered ng experience ng isang IE sa bank/finance industry and this is for below

Establishing work measurement programs and analysing work samples to develop standards for labour utilisation

Similar to your experience for process improvement and Lean Six Sigma.

2) Do you suggest that I push for an informal review with EA?
- EA already provided an answer to your question but it won’t hurt if you would like to have clarification. Para sa iyong peace of mind, knowing na you did everything that you could.

3) Can I claim those 5.5 years of experience once I lodge my EOI, despite the EA result not indicating such years of experience? I understand that DHA will do their own assessment. Is this an accurate statement?

- I don’t recommend claiming for this experience. It will be too risky and may cause you to commit over claiming of points and eventually having your visa application rejected.
May instance recently na approved ng EA ang work experience pero rejected sa DHA.
It is true that DHA conducts their own assessment.
In your case na hindi approved ng EA, it would be too risky to claim for the experience and have DHA decide.
Try to think of it this way, ano ang posibleng mangyari or magbago for DHA to consider your experience given na meron na silang sinusunod na basis na “ experience in banking/ finance is not considered as skilled experience for Industrial Engineer”.
Naka mark na ito sa recent EA application mo whereby the CO have access to and can have another check.

Overall - AU is seeking for skilled experience, and not just work experience. Yan ang ma consider naten as reason.

Find other means to increase your points kung kaya pa. Sayang ang 5 years of experience pero sad to say there’s no way na you could have known of this beforehand, maski ako nagulat. Ano pa kaya ang ibang industry na di pasok? I guess this is something that an experience migration agent would know.

Best of luck sa iyong susunod na steps.

Hi @ms_ane, thank you very much for your inputs, especially on #3. Yup, that industry restriction was a real shocker for us. That's why I decided to share it here, baka may aware sa atin. But in any case, I hope this will also shed some light on EA assessment for our fellow IEs out there who are also in the banking industry and are planning to emigrate. I learned it the hard way so I hope ako na ang last!

We'll stick to our plan B where my wife will be the primary applicant and we'll just claim points for her experience plus hopefully the additional partner points in Nov 2019 -- I know, despite the lackluster results of the Aug 2019 round. But we're still praying that things will get better for all of us. Btw, congrats @ms_ane on your visa grant! God bless you!

ms_ane · August 2019

@danj no worries

tama yan , take it as a minor setback and good thing about sa inyo is may plan b kayo. makikita mo na soon e you’ll be able to work your way through it yan

and while your 5 years of work was not recognized by EA, I am certain na magiging maayos pa din ang work na makukuha mo sa AU - dahil sabi ko nga, ang IE maski san mo ilagay e lumalaban yan

at salamat ulit sa pag share ng iyong experience in an effort to help other IE’s na mabigyan ng heads up regarding this industry restriction.

God bless sa inyo at kung may iba pang katanungan para naman sa application ni wife, wag mag atubiling mag post dito, marami kaming sasagot

mijikaye · August 2019

Hello. Can anyone shed some light on how to send PTE score report to EA? There's no search result found when searching Engineers Australia on the Institution/organization/dept/school field. Thanks.

ms_ane · August 2019

> @mijikaye said:
> Hello. Can anyone shed some light on how to send PTE score report to EA? There's no search result found when searching Engineers Australia on the Institution/organization/dept/school field. Thanks.

- hello

ako dati hindi ko naman sa EA sinend but to Department of Home Affairs (DHA) - DHA - Visa Applications.
Type mo lang DHA sa search bar.

If gusto mo sa EA though, meron dun,
Engineers Australia - Engineers Australia - Test Report Verification
(search bar
country : Australia
leave all else as blank
search bar : Engineers

mijikaye · August 2019

Got it. Thanks @ms_ane

jlaz · August 2019

Hello everyone. I need advice sana regarding sa work experience ko. Is it possible na "ma-credit" yung work experience even without govt docs (sss,pagibig,philhealth,itr)?

Naka-provide na ako ng coe, reference letter, email snapshots. 3 out of 4 of my employers were "startups" kaya di pa nakapagregister sa mga govt agencies.

Mangangarap na lang ba ako na ma-credit mga work experience ko with these companies, or mas maiging wag na? I am thinking na mahihirapan rin ako pagdating naman sa visa application.

Any inputs will be surely appreciated.

Salamat!

Linetdane · August 2019

We are hoping to get a positive assessment from EA for partner points.

My case is I am a graduate of Electrical Engineering and had a 3-year relevant experience, but it was from 2012 to 2015. I am now working in a different field. I am able to provide all the necessary documents to be assessed as Electrical Engineer (ANZSCO 233311) including CDR.

My question is, is it possible to get a positive EA Assessment for a non-recent relevant experience.

Thank you!

bcbv0926 · August 2019

Hello. I need help po. I applied for MSA CDR + RSEA last Aug. 12. I submitted all the necessary documents as fas as I know (SSS, ITR, payslips, COE with JD) and paid for the additional fee for RSEA. I am a Civil Engineer with 6.5 years of experience in Construction field here in the Philippines.

Then I received a positive outcome that my application was granted today, Aug. 22. However, upon checking, my Relevant Skilled Employment was not reflected on the mentioned letter. I checked my EA account and I verified that my application is "granted" and there is no other pending assessment application. Does it mean that my professional employment experience is not approved? What should I do?

Help please. Nakaka-sad.

Thank you.

ms_ane · August 2019

> @bcbv0926 said:
> Hello. I need help po. I applied for MSA CDR + RSEA last Aug. 12. I submitted all the necessary documents as fas as I know (SSS, ITR, payslips, COE with JD) and paid for the additional fee for RSEA. I am a Civil Engineer with 6.5 years of experience in Construction field here in the Philippines.
>
> Then I received a positive outcome that my application was granted today, Aug. 22. However, upon checking, my Relevant Skilled Employment was not reflected on the mentioned letter. I checked my EA account and I verified that my application is "granted" and there is no other pending assessment application. Does it mean that my professional employment experience is not approved? What should I do?
>
> Help please. Nakaka-sad.

>
> Thank you.

- don’t be sad muna, pinaka the best na mag email ka sa EA to verify. Show them your receipt na nag avail ka ng RSEA kasi if alam nila na nag avail ka ng RSEA, it will be reflected sa letter yung result, whether you can claim it or not.

wait din tayo na baka may similar situation dito ng kagaya sayo, para they can give feedback on how to move forward pero gaya nga ng sabi ko, your initial step is to email them to provide explanation. Goodluck.

cielchel · August 2019

Hello. I just received a positive outcome of my EA assessment today, problema lang po yung RSEA binawasan nila ng 2.5 years yung work exp. Di kase ako nakpagprovide SSS/Pagibig/Philhealth from 2013-2015 kase Job order ako sa Government but i add additional info naman na pag JO walang benefits that government employees enjoyed. Sadly 4years lang binigay ni EA.😭
Ang tanong ko po, pwede po ba ako maglodge ng EOI pero nakadeclare p din yung 6.5yrs of work exp? Salamat sa sasagot😬