Adding Secondary Applicants (Married/De-Facto/Engaged)

cres_rod · July 2019

@cucci she's 8 y/o.. so we will include her but in the non-migrating family member?
thanks.

cucci · July 2019

@karlboy Ikaw naman ang main applicant, right? If you have the points and your partner does not, all the more na mas mainam na isabay mo na sya sa application rather than have your partner process on her own. The point-system does not apply to dependents of the main applicant.

cucci · July 2019

@cres_rod Medyo tricky kasi nga the intention in there but hampered by the outcome of the court proceedings. Di rin ako sure kung pag sinabi na "non-migrating" eh ang consideration is the present application or it includes the future. Perhaps meron ibang makapag-share who has undergone the same dilemma.

karlboy · July 2019

> @cucci said:
> @karlboy Ikaw naman ang main applicant, right? If you have the points and your partner does not, all the more na mas mainam na isabay mo na sya sa application rather than have your partner process on her own. The point-system does not apply to dependents of the main applicant.

Yup ako po yung main applicant, kaso yung points ko is kulang doon sa required points dahil sa nominated skill pro rata doon po sa link 90 pts na kasi for 189 and 85pts for 489. Baka antayin na lang namin yung November na if single applicant +10 points para umabot ako sa points.

cucci · July 2019

@karlboy I see... if same occupation kayo at magpa-assess din sya, then that's additional 5 points for partner skill... anyway, best wishes on your Aussie journey...

karlboy · July 2019

@cucci said:

@karlboy I see... if same occupation kayo at magpa-assess din sya, then that's additional 5 points for partner skill... anyway, best wishes on your Aussie journey...

thanks po sa tips and sagot sa mga tanong... sobrang nakakatulong talaga if may makausap or mapag tanungan...

snowpy00 · October 2019

Hello I’ll be soon applying for my 476 visa. Na raise ko na ‘tong concern ko sa kabilang thread pero gusto ko lang malaman kumusta yung mga sinama yung de facto nila sa application kahit hindi na satisfied yung living together? Natatakot kasi ako baka kapag dineclare ko na de facto si gf tapos ma insufficient evidence for de facto ay ma reject din ako

cucci · October 2019

@snowpy00 I would suggest na i-process mo na muna ang application mo at sunod na lang si gf as subsequent entrant.

snowpy00 · October 2019

@cucci bali hindi limited yung subsequent entrant sa family under 476? Sa application ko should I put her as my de facto pero not travelling with me muna?

skijom · October 2019

hello po sa lahat magtatanong lang po sana ako tungkol po sa situation namin ni GF. Student Visa po ang meron siya(nasa Australia na po siya) gusto ko po sana pumunta rin ng Australia kaso hindi naman po ako nilagay niya na dependent sa application niya kasi sabi nung agency na family daw ilagay niya. Hindi po kami kasal. Nagtanong tanong narin po kami sa iba ibang agent/agency kaso puro student or dapat kasal daw po kami.

May ibang way po ba ? may nababasa po akong about sa defacto visa pwede po kaya ako sa ganung visa? salamat po

cucci · October 2019

@skijom Check if your relationship falls into the definition of de facto...

What is a De Facto relationship according to Australian Law?
According to Australian Family Law, a De Facto (meaning: in practice) relationship means:

The couple has lived together or apart only on a temporary basis
The partners have a reciprocal commitment to a shared life
The relationship is authentic and will continue in the future
The partners are not related
The couple must have been in the relationship for at least 12 months before applying for the visa
The partners are not legally married
The partners are not related to each other
Partners living together

Living together is a part of some relationships. Here’s what you need to know:

The one-year relationship yardstick doesn’t require the partners to have lived together for the whole period of a year
The Australian authorities appreciate that you and your partner may have had to live apart for a period, due to work or family commitments.
Having said that, the couple has to prove that the separation was temporary, and that they had lived together at some point from the beginning of the relationship.

Evidence to prove De Facto Relationship
Providing the Australian authorities with the history of your relationship is one way to do it. You will have to submit a signed relationship statement that will provide the authorities with all details.

Such a statement should cover:

Details of how, when and where you met your partner
How your relationship developed over time
Proof of commitment when it comes to supporting each other: emotionally, financially and physically
If there was a period of separation due to certain commitments, how you kept close contact even during that time
Your plans for the future as a pair

jd_11 · October 2019

Hello po!

To those who have partners na nag apply for subsequent entrant visa for subclass 476, ano po iyung timeline niyo? So far, ito pa lang po iyung sa partner ko:

Documents sent to Adelaide Office: August 28, 2019
Acknowledgement of Receipt Email from Immi: Sept 6, 2019
Uploaded documents in Immi Account: Sept 9, 2019

We are awaiting for his HAP ID pero wala pa rin pong email from Immi. Anyone who has experience on this please? Maraming salamat!

cucci · October 2019

@jd_11 You can generate HAP ID by logging in to your immi account, click New Application, click Health and enter details of applicant.

jd_11 · October 2019

@cucci thank you po for your response!

bellacomeros · October 2019

Hi Sir and Madam, magask lang po sana sa functional english for spouse. We already lodged our 489 visa and my partner took PTE-Academic yesterday. Bale may isa po syang subtest na 28 ang score pero the rest more than 30 na. Overall nya din is 39. Need po ba na 30 each subtest for functional english or kahit overall 30 lang? Thanks in advance po.

cucci · October 2019

@bellacomeros Ang sabi po sa website ng immigration:

Functional English:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/help-support/meeting-our-requirements/english-language/functional-english

in the 12 months before you applied for the visa, you scored one of the following:
PTE - An overall band score of at least 30 for each of the 4 test components

To be on the safe side po baka pwede kumuha na din sya ng Certificate of English as Medium of Instruction sa school saan sya nag-graduate and submit it together with Diploma and TOR.

bellacomeros · October 2019

Thank you cucci. Bale po yung primary at secondary po need since hindi po sya nakatapos ng college, tama po ba? 1st year lang po kasi naabot nya nung college then nagstop na po sya.

cucci · October 2019

@bellacomeros Sorry am not knowledgeable about the English requirements for 489 primary applicants... normally since need ng skills assessment, if I am not mistaken, English must be proficient... the exact details depends on which assessing body does the skills assessment. For subsequent entrant lang ang proficient english and first year lang natapos nya, di sya mabibigyan ng CEMI which means dapat ma-qualify ang English nya using standard exams like IELTS or PTE.

skijom · October 2019

@cucci said:

@skijom Check if your relationship falls into the definition of de facto...

What is a De Facto relationship according to Australian Law?
According to Australian Family Law, a De Facto (meaning: in practice) relationship means:

The couple has lived together or apart only on a temporary basis

The partners have a reciprocal commitment to a shared life

The relationship is authentic and will continue in the future

The partners are not related

The couple must have been in the relationship for at least 12 months before applying for the visa

The partners are not legally married

The partners are not related to each other

Partners living together

Living together is a part of some relationships. Here’s what you need to know:

The one-year relationship yardstick doesn’t require the partners to have lived together for the whole period of a year

The Australian authorities appreciate that you and your partner may have had to live apart for a period, due to work or family commitments.

Having said that, the couple has to prove that the separation was temporary, and that they had lived together at some point from the beginning of the relationship.

Evidence to prove De Facto Relationship
Providing the Australian authorities with the history of your relationship is one way to do it. You will have to submit a signed relationship statement that will provide the authorities with all details.

Such a statement should cover:

Details of how, when and where you met your partner

How your relationship developed over time

Proof of commitment when it comes to supporting each other: emotionally, financially and physically

If there was a period of separation due to certain commitments, how you kept close contact even during that time

Your plans for the future as a pair

thank you po sa sagot, is it hard po ba to apply for a defacto visa by DoItYourself lang? kasi when we ask agents palagi po nilang sinasagot is dapat po kasal or may anak na . Medyo nawawala na rin po ako nang pag asa. Mukhang priority nila is student visa talaga.

cucci · October 2019

@skijom While it would seem that having a child/dependent in a de facto relationship adds weight and credence to it, we must bear in mind that here in Au, de facto relationship can happen to same sex couples. Taking that into consideration, I believe it is a matter of how you present your relationship specially in a StatDec and being able to prove such declarations with other documentary requirement.

sethcabrera786 · November 2019

Hi! I would like to submit an EOI as single, but in 12-months time, I will be getting married..will there be a change in the EOI-date of effect (i.e. Nov. 8, 2019) if I change my status as MARRIED (nxt yr) EVEN IF my total points would remain as it is? (Single= Spouse with Competent English+ Positive Skills Assessment) Many Thanks!

Kim1014 · November 2019

@ldbaita said:
Hi guys..
Ask ko lng sana kng panu iapply ung defacto for subclass 476?
Hndi n b to ggawin online? Iffill up n lng b ung form 1276? Thanks!

Kim1014 · November 2019

Hi. May nakasagot na po ba nito? Thanks po sa help.

kars · November 2019

Hello po. Maglodge na kami ng bf ko for visa 190. Itanong ko lang po if okay na ang documents na iattach namin for defacto proof

Affidavit of Co-habitation
Joint Certification of Residency from Baranggay
Statements from both sides we have 6
Joint Account Dated 2015
Beneficiary ko siya sa Life Insurance ko
Remittances slips pero 4 lang naitabi ko
Photos by year from 2013 to present
Airline Tickets
Joint of Lease from Bridging Program
Love letters with dates
relationship timeline
Mails in the Same address from Melb.

Wala po kami utilities of same address kasi nakatira po kami sa parents niya.

Sa tingin niyo po ok na ito?
Salamat po

pinoyAussie · November 2019

Good Day Sir/Mam any Insights will be very much appreciated.

I recently lodged my EOI for visa 189 all DIY. To take advantage of the nov 16 additional 10pts for single applicants to claim 80pts.
I stated my relationship status as "never married" which is true but my partner and I are expecting our 1st child this Jan 2020 and now applying for marriage license. We are planning to get civil wed after the ITA(if fortunate) to not affect the claimed points. Ive read that it is more practical to include her in the Initial application as dpendent.
Would this affect my visa application?
Is it better to get married after the ITA or Visa grant?
Can I bring my partner/child along with me even though I initially stated that I am never married?
If i change the nver married status to engaged status would my DOE be queued again at the bottom list?
Thank you very much

claireang · October 2020

@maryowni09 said:
@maryowni09 medyo similar tanong ko sa case mo po. havent submitted my eoi, but di pa kami married. sa question na "Are you bringing a partner.." i plan to tag yes. kaso pag dumating na ITA, di pa kami married, so dapat ba we should get married na bago pa dumating ITA? ano na update sa case mo?

Hi.. andito n kami sa Melbourne. Nakapag big move n kami netong Feb 26, 2019. If you really plan to get married then you need to get married before you lodge your visa. Ok lng n hindi p married but you should tick "yes" during the submission of EOI. Ganyan ginawa ko noon. kaso be prepared dahil sa case nmin, July 28 ako nag EOI, nareceive ko invite Aug 11. So may 2 months ako n dapat kasal n kami. We had our wedding last Sept 8, 2018 kasi kelangan mo din iconsider ung tagal ng release ng PSA certified n marriage certificate which is a requirement upon visa lodgement. Oct 2 kami nag lodge ng visa and dec 13 naman nareceive ang grant.

Hi! I would like to kindly follow up po sana about this scenario. I am currently on the same boat. Aug 6, 2020 kami naglodge ng EOI for visa 189 and 190 for vic. Pero dito pa lang naisip ko na ideretso ideclare as "married" na ako and na "yes" dadalin ko yung partner ko with me. That time alam ko na close pa ang states until October due to pandemic and na may 2 mos kami to get married for our Au application. Engaged na talaga kami with church wedding set to Feb 2021 so pinaaga muna namin via civil wedding. Kasi di kami naglive in ng 12mos kaya mahina ang proof for de facto kahit 5y couple na kami. So Sept 19, 2020 we got married. And hopefully by mid November 2020 makuha na namin yung PSA copy ng marriage certificate at maiready na. Pero with the current situation and recent federal budget announcements, we don't expect na mainvite any time soon until fiscal end years sa July 2021 since offshore kami and 90 pts lang sa visa 190. Ang silver lining is more time mag asikaso ng PSA copy and change of name siguro?

Ang question ko is okay lang ba na dineclare ko kaagad na married ako nung EOI lodge by Aug 6th? Kahit na ang marriage cert namin ay dated ng Sept 19th. Kinakabahan kasi ako baka sabihin nagsisinungaling? Ang justification ko kasi at that time since in 1 month iuupdate ko din into "married" yung EOI ko had I previously put "engaged", ideretso ko na para as is na points ko sitting where it is at hindi na baba pa at maalis sa pila. And if may proof naman ako na mashoshow. As long as before ITA. Hope someone can help enlighten me if what I did was okay lang and di kailangan magalala. Salamat po!

skippermack · October 2020

hello, tanong ko lang po under visa 489 po ako at ang partner ko ay under student visa pwede ko ba siya iapply ng subsequent entrant visa? para po sana magka full owrking rights din siya dito. thank you sa sasagot.