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Posts: 34Member
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Thanks @MumVeng .
Iniisip ko nga rin yan; kaya humihingi din ako ng opinyon dito baka may naka experience na ng similar case. Nanghihinayang kasi ko sa don sa bayad kung same result lang ibigay nila. So I'm hoping sa possibility na baka iba naman ang opinion ng DHA.
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me option ba na i-appeal results ng EA? gawa ka ng statutory declaration lagay mo dun un mga duties and responsibilities mo then, pa pirma mo ung document sa supervisor mo...
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its safe to follow EA
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maliit ang chance na maiba ang opinion ng DHA.
better to appeal or Follow EA..
overclaim is a huge risk
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You have two options po.
1. Informal Review= should be done within 3 months after result.
2. Appeal = if you still have negative outcome after the informal review.
Since it's a requirement issue, I think it would be approved once you give the necessary document. Please check the list of primary and secondary documents needed. Or, contact EA and ask them why the 3 years were not considered and explain you intend to apply for an informal review soon.
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Thanks sa insights @Captain_A, @MumVeng and @jakibantiles.
I'm now curious re those cases nag pa assess ng qualifications sa EA pero hindi nag RSEA (since optional sya).
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Ano nga po ba ang benefit ng RSEA? @RheaMARN1171933
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The benefit is your employment experience has been officially assessed as relevant. It lessens the risk you are over claiming points and gives you that peace of mind that you’re claiming the appropriate experience.
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i did this.
Skills assessment lng no rsea
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Hindi rin ako nag-RSEA, less gastos. Basta ba confident ka sa documents na meron ka and make sure na kumpleto ang mga proof mo ng employment.
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I'm curious about this as well but honestly, it's more worth hearing from people who already have a visa grant and did not undergo RSEA and were able to claim ALL their work experience successfully.
Remember, almost all of us here are confident about our skills and experience but that doesn't necessarily mean DHA and assessing authorities agree with our confidence kahit pa ulanan mo sila ng supposed supporting documents. Their standard is just different from what we think is ok.
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I think wala naman kasi talagang nakalagay sa MSA booklet na required ang RSEA, that's why it's optional. At the end of the day, choice pa rin naman ng applicant if he/she will do it or not. But of course, mas okay talaga na gawin na agad ang RSEA kasabay ng EA assessment para sure na agad and less risk na sa huli.
In your case @icomanman, since ngayon pa lang eh pinuna na ni EA 'yung experience mo and hindi in-acknowledge 'yung 3 years (due to insufficient documents - detailed duties and responsibilities, etc.), baka mas okay nga na mag-RSEA ka. I think 'yung COE with detailed duties and responsibilities ang pinaka-critical na document in proving that your work experience is relevant sa nominated occupation mo. So without it, medyo less talaga ang chance.
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good point. mejo critical na since nagbigay na ng opinion ang EA
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cguro on top of confidence mo s skills and work experience na relevant, dapat clear sa applicant ang requirements para sure sya sa claim nya.
mine was straightforward kaya malinaw sakin ang supporting docs na need ko to claim points
18 Mar '16 IELTS Results
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26 Apr '16 EA Skills Assessment Positive Outcome
06 May '16 PTE-A Exam
07 May '16 PTE- A Results & Submitted EOI
11 May '16 Got ITA
02 Jun '16 Lodge Visa
04 Jul '16 Direct Grant
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@icomanman, question pala:
You were saying pala na 5 years lang ang in-acknowledge ni EA and hindi sinama ang other 3 years. Hindi pa ba RSEA ang ginawa mo?
Napa-check ako bigla sa EA outcome letter ko for my MSA - CDR application, wala naman naka-specify na nag-acknowledge sila ng certain number of years. Pa-confirm nga para malinawan din ako hahaha
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Magandang umaga. Natapos ko na ang dalawang career episodes ko. Isa nlng. Nakikisuyo pa ako sa dati kong katrabaho na hanapin at piktyuran ang documents para magawa ko na din. Question lang po, pano niyo inapproach ang present supervisor/manager niyo sa pagpapapirma ng referral letter/coe? Were you honest about why you need it? Thanks
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Thanks @Captain_A. Yan nga yung point ko; although naiitindihan ko yung impact ng RSEA.
@haringkingking yes, I'm done with the RSEA.
From July 2010 to Oct 2012, isang employer lang ako, pero since matagal na, hindi ko nahanap yong ITR ko ng 2011 (na hiningi nila) so hindi na credit entire 2011.
Then after that, self-employed na ko with complete tax records and client references. Yung kaso from 2014 to 2016, hindi tinanggap ng former supervisor ko yung letter na ginawa ko with the list of duties; although nag bigay sya ng sarili nya endorsement, without the detailed list nga lang. So yan yung iniisip ko: Kailangan ba ni DHA yung detalye ng role mo? Alam nyo naman dito sa pinas, usually standard certificate of employment, title and period lang naka lagay, unless i request mo yung detalyado.
Eto:
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I'm done with the RSEA; optional sya kaya hindi naka lagay sa lahat ng MSA. Anyway, I hope we can keep in touch and maka hingi ng feedback mo after mo ma invite and mag lodge.
Ewan ko, parang sayang pa tuloy binayad sa RSEA? Parang napasama pa ata. hehehe
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Saka kung titingnan mo kasi, mukhang mas maluwag yung requirements from DHA compared sa EA (the reason why I'm asking for those who did not undergo RSEA):
@GreyM sa akin, I asked for letter of reference, including list ng duties. Yung iba nagtanong, kako mag papa assess ako sa EA. Yung iba naman hindi. Yung isa naman former supervisor ko member na ng EA; sa kanya yung pinaka smooth.
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Bakit naman po hindi tinanggap ni former supervisor mo? Grabe naman. Baka po pwede mo i-escalate sa manager or even sa HR. Most likely HR keeps record of your JOB OFFER letter. Baka po pwede uli kayo magrequest formally and then CC to your manager, HR manager.
Whether you ask for a review with EA or not, in the end po, hihingi pa din ang DHA ng documents to support your claim of years of experience. Kaya po no choice kayo but to really get them ready.
Kung wala pong ITR, SSS contri po ay pwede. (Page 28, MSA Booklet)
We are dealing with the government so solid po dapat ang paperwork natin.
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Thanks @MumVeng.
Clarify ko lang po, meron po ako letters regarding doon sa period, as I've mentioned, nag bigay sya ng sarili nya endorsement, 1 formal letter, statement via email. Ok naman sana. But if you read yung requirements ng EA, kailangan don yung "at least 5 main duties and responsibilities", yan yung hindi naka lagay doon.
Re SSS, nag bigay po ako. The assessor specifically asked for the ITR. Although may pay slip naman din ako. Iba rin talaga.
So looking doon sa online EOI form, sa tingin nyo ba sasabihin nilang nag "over claim" ka kung nilagay mo doon yung employment period? Meron naman akong letters and tax records; wala lang talagang list of duties. Sa ngayon, hindi ko tuloy nilagay yon sa EOI ko. Pero iniisip ko parang walang sense kung hindi ko ilagay kasi totoo naman yung employment period na yon. Nag tanong na ko sa isang agent, iwas pusoy din naman ang sagot nya: malalaman daw pag nag pasa na sa DHA...something na alam naman natin lahat siguro.
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Sir, @icomanman, I agree with you po. Siguro po kng hindi kayo nagpa-RSEA, smooth lang na tatanggapin ni DHA yung 8 years mo. Pero kaya yan Sir! Papers lang po yan. It's just their policy po na kapag hindi kumpleto ung primary and secondary mo hindi nila ia-assess. Kaya po yan!
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Yes, Sir. Option 1, kailangan ung details of your job description or you can do Option 2, with Job Offer letter. They're about the same kasi ang gusto nila makita is yung details ng ginagawa natin if this is inline with the ANZCO description.
If they asked specifically for the ITR despite the other documents, you will have to give it or provide a reason why you can't provide it. I sent you a PM po of where you can request it fast. Try nyo po, sana active yung service during this pandemic.
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Got some answers...
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@icomanman Okay gets ko na! Sige balitaan kita kapag na-invite and nakapag-lodge na nako. (SANAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! LORD PLEASE!)
Eto maganda 'yung nahanap ni @MumVeng. "More benefial outcome" daw ang ia-apply hihi. Medyo nagka-kumpyansa rin ako nung nabasa ko hehe
If you will claim it sa EOI, better be ready with the REQUIRED DOCUMENTS talaga. Like in your case, hindi ka lang talaga nakapag-bigay ng detailed COE nung RSEA application mo kaya hindi siya na-acknowledge. And considering optional nga lang ang RSEA, I think, may chance ka pa to prove sa DHA kapag na-invite and nakapag-lodge ka na.
Anyway, hindi rin ako 100% sure. And at the end of the day, it's your decision. Good luck!
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Haha 'yan ang pinaka-challenging na part. Sa experience ko, hindi ko sinabi sa boss ko. Sa HR ako humingi. Meron akong draft na ginawa with my duties and responsibilities para reference lang nila sana pero ang nangyari, 'yun na rin ang ginamit and pinirmahan nila.
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Hi Rellie, san ka nagpa assess? Salamat.
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Nice! Galing naman ni @MumVeng. At least this tells us something. We can now understand why optional talaga ang RSEA. Maraming Salamat sa inyo. Also to you @haringkingking. All the best sa atin!
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All the best din @icomanman! Good luck sa ating lahat!
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hello question lang.. meron po ba dito currently experiencing na more than 2 months result ng EA assessment?