Accountant

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

Hi guys!..need some help…ask ko lang kung pede bang i-nominate ng brother ko ang Accountant (General) with his current line of work as AP / AR Analyst?..He’s a graduate of Accountancy from category 2 school, non-CPA..which assessing body would you recommend (IPA, CPA,ICAA)?...thanks all!

Let your brother assess whether his line of work is more or less the same as that of an Accountant (General) as per ANZSCO definition:

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Product+Lookup/1220.0~2006~Chapter~UNIT+GROUP+2211+Accountants

My wife did CPAA and we dread failing in the Accounting Theory subject but thankfully wala naman naging problema. They say mas lenient ang IPA and ICAA but I will not touch on that as I have no knowledge over it.

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

Hi guys!..need some help…ask ko lang kung pede bang i-nominate ng brother ko ang Accountant (General) with his current line of work as AP / AR Analyst?..He’s a graduate of Accountancy from category 2 school, non-CPA..which assessing body would you recommend (IPA, CPA,ICAA)?...thanks all!

Let your brother assess whether his line of work is more or less the same as that of an Accountant (General) as per ANZSCO definition:

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Product+Lookup/1220.0~2006~Chapter~UNIT+GROUP+2211+Accountants

My wife did CPAA and we dread failing in the Accounting Theory subject but thankfully wala naman naging problema. They say mas lenient ang IPA and ICAA but I will not touch on that as I have no knowledge over it.

akino · February 2013

Hi guys!..need some help…ask ko lang kung pede bang i-nominate ng brother ko ang Accountant (General) with his current line of work as AP / AR Analyst?..He’s a graduate of Accountancy from category 2 school, non-CPA..which assessing body would you recommend (IPA, CPA,ICAA)?...thanks all!
Let your brother assess whether his line of work is more or less the same as that of an Accountant (General) as per ANZSCO definition:

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Product+Lookup/1220.0~2006~Chapter~UNIT+GROUP+2211+Accountants

My wife did CPAA and we dread failing in the Accounting Theory subject but thankfully wala naman naging problema. They say mas lenient ang IPA and ICAA but I will not touch on that as I have no knowledge over it.

Thanks mate!..I'll let him check the link you provided..cheers!

cylin · February 2013

@Brian83 hi! for accountants, required po na maassess ng accounting body regardless if state sponsored or independent. with the new rules implemented, required po ang ielts acad (7 in all) unless you had your assessment before the implementation of new rules.

Hi @stonehenge, san nyo po nakuha ang info above? Cos i am CPA but i'll have Vetassess to assess my education and employment dahil vet ang assessing body ng would be nominated occupation ko (internal auditor). Is it a general rule for Accountants especially with regards to IELTS? Or you're only referring to those practising accountants?

Thanks.

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

@Brian83 hi! for accountants, required po na maassess ng accounting body regardless if state sponsored or independent. with the new rules implemented, required po ang ielts acad (7 in all) unless you had your assessment before the implementation of new rules.
Hi @stonehenge, san nyo po nakuha ang info above? Cos i am CPA but i'll have Vetassess to assess my education and employment dahil vet ang assessing body ng would be nominated occupation ko (internal auditor). Is it a general rule for Accountants especially with regards to IELTS? Or you're only referring to those practising accountants?

Thanks.

Check mo what is the requirements of VETASSESS...

CPAA, ICA and IPAA - these agencies requires an acad IELTS of 7 in all subjects.

VETASSESS for Internal Auditor MAY have a different requirement.

cylin · February 2013

@psychoboy, my purpose is only to clear that it depends sa nominated occupation and the corresponding assessment body of our fellow accountants (i.e. IA-vetassess). Quoted from stonehenge that for accountants required na maassess ng accounting body at kelangan acad ielts ang kukunin.

I hope i have a point regarding this. Para lang po di gumulo ang usapan o baka ako lang ang naguluhan. ^__^

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

@Brian83 hi! for accountants, required po na maassess ng accounting body regardless if state sponsored or independent. with the new rules implemented, required po ang ielts acad (7 in all) unless you had your assessment before the implementation of new rules.
Hi @stonehenge, san nyo po nakuha ang info above? Cos i am CPA but i'll have Vetassess to assess my education and employment dahil vet ang assessing body ng would be nominated occupation ko (internal auditor). Is it a general rule for Accountants especially with regards to IELTS? Or you're only referring to those practising accountants?

Thanks.

Check mo what is the requirements of VETASSESS...

CPAA, ICA and IPAA - these agencies requires an acad IELTS of 7 in all subjects.

VETASSESS for Internal Auditor MAY have a different requirement.
So It depends on the assessing body nga po. Vetassess doesn't require any ielts to process skills and educational qualification. You'd only need ielts when you lodge an application to diac which is pwede na ang gt module for immigration purposes.

I hope i am right.

There you go!! VETASSESS won't need any IELTS pala...

Yes, it depends on who will do your skills assessment.

vhoythoy · February 2013

Sabi nila pwedeng abuting ng 10 years bago maging resident jan sa US ngaun. Marami akong kakilala nanjan din mostly mga nsa audit firms.

Kawawa naman ang IA walng state sponsorship =( Palit na kaya ako ng skillset hhaha
10 yrs is 10yrs.. sa 10yrs na yan.. eh citizen na ako sa AU..
pwede naman bumalik US kung sakali with AU passport na.. awww!!

about IA: kung abot ka nmn ng 60pts without SS.. pwede kana mag visa 189..
hintay ka lang ng konting oras for the visa invitation..

pero un nga, based sa latest skillselect invitation.. ang dami na rin visa189 na 60pts din..
so ayos na rin..

which stage of application na kayo?
goodluck po..

Last check ko nsa 65 or 70 yata, kasi almost 10 years na din exp ko. Ma hinihintay lang akong timing and results before ko mag submit ng docs sa vetassess

Bigfoot · February 2013

Hi Guys, I just want to bring this thread to life.

May we know any accountant here who's already employed in an accounting/finance job in AU and which city you are in?

Care to share your experiences and specialization?

Regards

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

Hi Guys, I just want to bring this thread to life.

May we know any accountant here who's already employed in an accounting/finance job in AU and which city you are in?

Care to share your experiences and specialization?

Regards

Approximately 50 days to go before we head down under so we begin the jobseach - my wife got 2 responses na though saying that they only entertain applicants when they are already in Australia...

Bigfoot · February 2013

@pschoboy, that's great at least there are replies. were these from accounting firms?

God bless on your upcoming move! Hope you keep us updated once your there.

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

@pschoboy, that's great at least there are replies. were these from accounting firms?

God bless on your upcoming move! Hope you keep us updated once your there.

we have not applied directly yet, the 2 responses were from michael page - a HH firm...

stonehenge · February 2013

@cylin hi, sorry for the confusion. I meant for those who nominated General Accountant as their occupation.

wynx · February 2013

@amcasperforu

hello there,

share ko lang po kasi sa ICAA ako nag pa assess ng skill ko, regarding dun sa tanong mo, either skills mo lang ang ipapa assess mo or "combo" meaning kasama ung employment. They will assess if your employment is related to your nominated occupation which in our case is "Accountant"

Sa akin kasi nag pa assess ako ng both skills and employment ko para alam ko kung ilang points ang iki claim ko sa aking work experience. ayaw ko kasi n mag over ako sa pag claim ng points that in the end hindi ko rin kaya mapatunayan or mapanindigan. So just to make sure i decided to avail of the combo assessment ng ICAA.

filipinacpa · February 2013

@amcasperforu

hello there,

share ko lang po kasi sa ICAA ako nag pa assess ng skill ko, regarding dun sa tanong mo, either skills mo lang ang ipapa assess mo or "combo" meaning kasama ung employment. They will assess if your employment is related to your nominated occupation which in our case is "Accountant"

Sa akin kasi nag pa assess ako ng both skills and employment ko para alam ko kung ilang points ang iki claim ko sa aking work experience. ayaw ko kasi n mag over ako sa pag claim ng points that in the end hindi ko rin kaya mapatunayan or mapanindigan. So just to make sure i decided to avail of the combo assessment ng ICAA.

Congratulations! I would like to ask how many are your working experience po? Thanks!

wynx · February 2013

@filipinacpa

i was able to claim ung minimun lang sa work experience ko. kasi ang tinanggap nila ay ung work experience ko dyan sa pinas. ung dito sa abroad, they did not consider it kasi hindi specifically "accountant" ung aking job title. although kung base s responsibility at duties ay accountant naman ang aking position.

cylin · February 2013

@filipinacpa

i was able to claim ung minimun lang sa work experience ko. kasi ang tinanggap nila ay ung work experience ko dyan sa pinas. ung dito sa abroad, they did not consider it kasi hindi specifically "accountant" ung aking job title. although kung base s responsibility at duties ay accountant naman ang aking position.

@wynx, so specific and strict talaga sila about sa job title ano? Tsk! Pambihira naman. hehe..iba din ang job title ko abroad eh.

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

@filipinacpa

i was able to claim ung minimun lang sa work experience ko. kasi ang tinanggap nila ay ung work experience ko dyan sa pinas. ung dito sa abroad, they did not consider it kasi hindi specifically "accountant" ung aking job title. although kung base s responsibility at duties ay accountant naman ang aking position.
@wynx, so specific and strict talaga sila about sa job title ano? Tsk! Pambihira naman. hehe..iba din ang job title ko abroad eh.

I can speak for CPA Australia; di naman sila strict sa job title AS LONG AS yung mga detailed roles and responsibilities mo are in line with how ANZSCO define it. Case in point, si wife applied for accountant general - 5yrs of experience in a job title as external auditor was accepted.

hope this helps!

cylin · February 2013

@filipinacpa

i was able to claim ung minimun lang sa work experience ko. kasi ang tinanggap nila ay ung work experience ko dyan sa pinas. ung dito sa abroad, they did not consider it kasi hindi specifically "accountant" ung aking job title. although kung base s responsibility at duties ay accountant naman ang aking position.
@wynx, so specific and strict talaga sila about sa job title ano? Tsk! Pambihira naman. hehe..iba din ang job title ko abroad eh.
I can speak for CPA Australia; di naman sila strict sa job title AS LONG AS yung mga detailed roles and responsibilities mo are in line with how ANZSCO define it. Case in point, si wife applied for accountant general - 5yrs of experience in a job title as external auditor was accepted.

hope this helps!

@psychoboy kasi naman po External Auditor is under group Accountants po and the same skill set sya so pasok sya sa "closely related" occupation kya po kayo hindi nagkaproblema. But if ang job title mo ay admin/accounts executive kahit na scope mo ay pang accountant it matters i think kasi wala naman sa group ang admin/accounts executive.

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

@filipinacpa

i was able to claim ung minimun lang sa work experience ko. kasi ang tinanggap nila ay ung work experience ko dyan sa pinas. ung dito sa abroad, they did not consider it kasi hindi specifically "accountant" ung aking job title. although kung base s responsibility at duties ay accountant naman ang aking position.
@wynx, so specific and strict talaga sila about sa job title ano? Tsk! Pambihira naman. hehe..iba din ang job title ko abroad eh.
I can speak for CPA Australia; di naman sila strict sa job title AS LONG AS yung mga detailed roles and responsibilities mo are in line with how ANZSCO define it. Case in point, si wife applied for accountant general - 5yrs of experience in a job title as external auditor was accepted.

hope this helps!
@psychoboy kasi naman po External Auditor is under group Accountants po and the same skill set sya so pasok sya sa "closely related" occupation kya po kayo hindi nagkaproblema. But if ang job title mo ay admin/accounts executive kahit na scope mo ay pang accountant it matters i think kasi wala naman sa group ang admin/accounts executive.

@cylin - with all due respect, I don't agree with your comments above. for me it does not make sense that they will specifically not credit you with work experience for the sole reason that you job title does not specify as accountant.

again, i think as long as your detailed roles and responsibilities matches or is closely related to how ANZSCO definite it, you should be okey...

I could be wrong but logically, more importance should be placed on the itemized list of roles and responsibilities rather than your job title diba?

just my 2 cents...

wynx · February 2013

@cylin
siguro para mas sure kung ayos lang sau ay magpa assess k n lang ng both your skills and work experiences sa ICAA. In that case kasi, malalaman kung ilan talga ang points na pwede mo i claim pagdating sa bagay na ito.

Gaya ko ayoko magkamali kung ilan talga ang dapat ko i claim sa aking work experience so i just opted to avail ung combo assessment ng ICAA in order to play safe na lang.

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

@cylin
siguro para mas sure kung ayos lang sau ay magpa assess k n lang ng both your skills and work experiences sa ICAA. In that case kasi, malalaman kung ilan talga ang points na pwede mo i claim pagdating sa bagay na ito. Gaya ko ayoko magkamali kung ilan talga ang dapat ko i claim sa aking work experience so i just opted to avail ung combo assessment ng ICAA in order to play safe na lang.

@wynx - I agree with you on this one. The best person who can be able to determine whether your work experience is relevant or not are the people who have the expertise on your nominated occupation. For your case, it is ICAA, IPA or CPA Australia.

OT - kumusta na pre? lapit na lipad natin, hope you were able to sort our your temporary accommodation...

wynx · February 2013

@psychoboy

Yup, i was able to ask Ms @vangievc if willing pa rin nila ako patuluyin temporarily sa house nila, i moved kasi ung punta ko dun. I originally plan to have my initial entry sa March 20-25, but then because of a little complication sa sched, i changed it to April 13-19 instead. Luckily, willing pa rin naman daw nila ako i accept sa house nila.

Maybe we could meet up sa Melby pag pumunta ako? what do you think?

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

@psychoboy

Yup, i was able to ask Ms @vangievc if willing pa rin nila ako patuluyin temporarily sa house nila, i moved kasi ung punta ko dun. I originally plan to have my initial entry sa March 20-25, but then because of a little complication sa sched, i changed it to April 13-19 instead. Luckily, willing pa rin naman daw nila ako i accept sa house nila.

Maybe we could meet up sa Melby pag pumunta ako? what do you think?

Sure, let me know pafs!!

Either here or FB, cheers mate!!

wynx · February 2013

@psychoboy

i will surely do that

cylin · February 2013

@cylin
siguro para mas sure kung ayos lang sau ay magpa assess k n lang ng both your skills and work experiences sa ICAA. In that case kasi, malalaman kung ilan talga ang points na pwede mo i claim pagdating sa bagay na ito. Gaya ko ayoko magkamali kung ilan talga ang dapat ko i claim sa aking work experience so i just opted to avail ung combo assessment ng ICAA in order to play safe na lang.

@wynx, yes...i'll probably avail the points test advice with Vetassess coz I am not very confident on how the skills asssessment would turn out (ex. Sept 2007-Aug 2010 they might not consider it as 3years, Accounts admin - not the same as accountant skills...etc.). Whatever it is i'm going to try my luck or else wait for the right time. :-)

Ilang taon po pala kayong ngwork sa PH? I'm aware that it is below 5yrs, just wanna know from when to when (month/year). Thanks.

vhoythoy · February 2013

Goodluck sa mga nagapply. Ako'y standby pa muna. Update2 nalang

TasBurrfoot · February 2013

Goodluck sa mga nagapply. Ako'y standby pa muna. Update2 nalang

bakit ka magstandby mr @vhoythoy?

vhoythoy · February 2013

Goodluck sa mga nagapply. Ako'y standby pa muna. Update2 nalang
bakit ka magstandby mr @vhoythoy?

May hinihintay lang akong mga pending applications at the moment. In few months/weeks time at walang nangyari, submit ko na documents ko visa processing application sa Australia. Ready naman na lahat. Wala pang assessment ng vetassess pero medyo confident ako ng konti dun. Pero ayoko muna maglabas ng pera. Around 65-70 rin yata estimated points ko for 189 kung sakali. Wag sana abutan ng July bago luminaw ang paroroonan. haha

On the other note, nakakadrain at stress din talaga ang pagaaply ng job nowadays.