Recognized Philippine Schools by "Australia..."

tootzkie · December 2011

@tootzkie, may PM nga ako sayo paki check mo msg. mo dito sa forum na eto....

Sabi ni insan wag ko raw i-mention ang lastname nya or even firstname. Saka na lang daw kapag visa grant na sya hahahah.

@aldousnow
yup daming isko d2. Napaghahalatang mga anak-pawis na gustong guminhawa sa ibang bansa hahahaha.

icebreaker1928 · December 2011

ah ok thanks! category 2 lang pala. kaya pala di ako binigyan ng Bachelor ng ACS. Advance Diploma lang daw ako.

anong course mo po? school ko kasi nasa category 3 pero equivalent to AU daw ang qualification ko ayon sa ACS... pero wala pa ako lakas ng loob gaya ng lakas loob ni itchan kaya wait ko muna sya

yoteamo_jay · December 2011

Hi All,

may tanong po ako.. under sa occupation code, ikaw po ba ang pipili kung saan kang code? or ung ACS? thanks po

Bryann · December 2011

Section 3 school ko, assessed as equivalent to AQF Diploma major in computing ng ACS.

diwata · December 2011

ah ok thanks! category 2 lang pala. kaya pala di ako binigyan ng Bachelor ng ACS. Advance Diploma lang daw ako.
anong course mo po? school ko kasi nasa category 3 pero equivalent to AU daw ang qualification ko ayon sa ACS... pero wala pa ako lakas ng loob gaya ng lakas loob ni itchan kaya wait ko muna sya

compsci ako sa plm.. nung una nga pinag RPL pa ko eh.. eh nung nakita ko ung format ng rpl eh parang wala ako time gawin. so sabi ko eh pasa nya as is ung papers ko and im ok kahit na ano ang result. nung bumalik eh positive naman kaya lang nga eh Advance Diploma lang.. pede na din.. nagrereview na ko for IELTS at hopefully makapag exam by middle of jan next year

heyits7me_mags · December 2011

@tootzkie, may PM nga ako sayo paki check mo msg. mo dito sa forum na eto....
Sabi ni insan wag ko raw i-mention ang lastname nya or even firstname. Saka na lang daw kapag visa grant na sya hahahah.

@aldousnow
yup daming isko d2. Napaghahalatang mga anak-pawis na gustong guminhawa sa ibang bansa hahahaha.

PM nga eh, hindi naman i-disclose in broad day light baga duman sa PM mo ngani....

aldousnow · December 2011

@yoteamo_jay ikaw pipili. kaya dapat alam mo yung suitable occupation code talaga para sayo. based sa working experience mo.

yoteamo_jay · December 2011

san po ba sya nag bi base? sa job description mo or sa position mo.. kase like sa situation ko.. ang mga naging position ko sa 8 companies are mostly support engineer pero ang ginagawa ko sa work ay system administration.. thanks

itchan · December 2011

ah ok thanks! category 2 lang pala. kaya pala di ako binigyan ng Bachelor ng ACS. Advance Diploma lang daw ako.
anong course mo po? school ko kasi nasa category 3 pero equivalent to AU daw ang qualification ko ayon sa ACS... pero wala pa ako lakas ng loob gaya ng lakas loob ni itchan kaya wait ko muna sya
compsci ako sa plm.. nung una nga pinag RPL pa ko eh.. eh nung nakita ko ung format ng rpl eh parang wala ako time gawin. so sabi ko eh pasa nya as is ung papers ko and im ok kahit na ano ang result. nung bumalik eh positive naman kaya lang nga eh Advance Diploma lang.. pede na din.. nagrereview na ko for IELTS at hopefully makapag exam by middle of jan next year

Actually, hindi ata particular sa sectioning ng school ang ACS but rather course content.. yung sakin was mainly based lang sa subjects defined sa transcript pero assessed as comparable to bachelor degree naman ako with major in computing... hmmm, I'm assuming na kung comsci ka, dapat malakas hatak ng transcript mo... could it be na ung docs ang may kulang na nasubmit mo?

diwata · December 2011

@itchan - siguro nga.. kasi may mga company ako na nagsara na. ok na din sa akin kasi abot naman ako sa 65points basta 7 ako sa IELTS ko... kaya need mag aral ng mabuti

itchan · December 2011

@itchan - siguro nga.. kasi may mga company ako na nagsara na. ok na din sa akin kasi abot naman ako sa 65points basta 7 ako sa IELTS ko... kaya need mag aral ng mabuti

Kayang kaya na yan! Go lang ng go! ahahaha

icebreaker1928 · December 2011

ah ok thanks! category 2 lang pala. kaya pala di ako binigyan ng Bachelor ng ACS. Advance Diploma lang daw ako.
anong course mo po? school ko kasi nasa category 3 pero equivalent to AU daw ang qualification ko ayon sa ACS... pero wala pa ako lakas ng loob gaya ng lakas loob ni itchan kaya wait ko muna sya
compsci ako sa plm.. nung una nga pinag RPL pa ko eh.. eh nung nakita ko ung format ng rpl eh parang wala ako time gawin. so sabi ko eh pasa nya as is ung papers ko and im ok kahit na ano ang result. nung bumalik eh positive naman kaya lang nga eh Advance Diploma lang.. pede na din.. nagrereview na ko for IELTS at hopefully makapag exam by middle of jan next year

Actually, hindi ata particular sa sectioning ng school ang ACS but rather course content.. yung sakin was mainly based lang sa subjects defined sa transcript pero assessed as comparable to bachelor degree naman ako with major in computing... hmmm, I'm assuming na kung comsci ka, dapat malakas hatak ng transcript mo... could it be na ung docs ang may kulang na nasubmit mo?

yup, course content po ang basehan ng ACS... and I believe since compsci dapat comparable rin sa Bachelors degree ng AU...

@itchan - siguro nga.. kasi may mga company ako na nagsara na. ok na din sa akin kasi abot naman ako sa 65points basta 7 ako sa IELTS ko... kaya need mag aral ng mabuti

4 na company na napasukan ko nagsara na rin, puros statutory declaration lang binigay ko.. so far accepted naman nila lahat yun at credited as work experience...

anyway... aral na nga lang sa ielts... goodluck!!!

diwata · December 2011

yup. kaya eto balik estudyante ang drama ko

itchan · December 2011

Actually, hindi ata particular sa sectioning ng school ang ACS but rather course content.. yung sakin was mainly based lang sa subjects defined sa transcript pero assessed as comparable to bachelor degree naman ako with major in computing... hmmm, I'm assuming na kung comsci ka, dapat malakas hatak ng transcript mo... could it be na ung docs ang may kulang na nasubmit mo?

Hmmm, update lang dito sa statement ko na to... I came across one booklet na nidownload ko prior to my ACS skills assessment and it said:

7.1 RECOGNITION AND ASSESSMENT OF ACADEMIC QUALIFICATIONS
For assessment purposes, all qualifications held by an applicant will be considered.
Accredited and Recognised Degrees
"Accredited degree" means a degree awarded by a university to a student who successfully completed a program of study in ICT, which program is recognised after a documentation review and accreditation visit by the ACS.
Accreditation is valid for students enrolling until the end of the year specified in the list of Accredited University Courses for each course.
Unless otherwise stated, accreditation applies only to the Accredited University Courses conducted at the named campuses and locations.
"Recognized degree" means a degree normally awarded by a foreign educational institution, after successful completion of a program of study in ICT, which program has been –
 accredited by the responsible accrediting body in that country, which is a signatory to the Seoul Accord, or
 Evaluated by the ACS as being equivalent to a degree accredited by the ACS or a signatory of the Seoul Accord. These programs do not appear on the list of qualifications formally recognized under the Seoul Accord.
Through the Seoul Accord, the signatories recognize the equivalence of the preparation of graduates of computing education programs accredited by the signatories for professional computing practice at the entry level.
If an applicant's degree falls in one of the categories referred to above the applicant will be assessed as meeting qualification requirements.
If an applicant's degree does not fall in one of the categories referred to above, the ACS will use the current Australian Education International-National Office of Overseas Skills Recognition (AEI-NOOSR) Country Education Profiles (CEP) to establish the educational level of the qualifications held by the applicant. Qualifications other than those listed in the relevant CEP are assessed individually.
A Bachelor or higher degree course undertaken by an applicant granted advanced standing, credit(s) or exemption(s) will only be regarded as undertaken where, in the opinion of the ACS, credit(s) or exemption(s) are given for equivalent subjects (particularly in terms of IT content) taken at an equivalent educational level in an institution of equivalent academic standing.
No advanced standing, credit or exemption given on the basis of qualifications from overseas will be considered in relation to an Australian Graduate Diploma or higher degree qualifications.

Link:
http://www.acs.org.au/public/ska/docs/PASAGuidelinesforApplicants_July 2011 v4.0.pdf

So while ACS doesnt guarantee points para sa educational qualification mo, it did went with yung "official" process of checking with AEI-NOOSR thingy in determining whether your degree is equivalent to AU degree or not (not just checking ung content ng transcript mo). So in a way, I guess unless may sobrang mali lang sa ginawa ng ACS, or may nakitang mali si CO mo sa application mo, dun lang i-ooverwrite ng DIAC yung ruling ng ACS to award you with lesser points... Since I think DIAC will actually do the same process (AEI-NOOSR) to check your qualifications if ever...

On my case, mas nakaka-kaba to kasi:

1. My qualifications doesn't show kung anong campus ang nagawar ng degree ko (main campus ba or extension campus) since considered as 1 school lang yun

2. Yung main campus is section 1, while yung extension campus is section 2 (weird kasi isang school nga lang dapat sila)

soooo... baka akala ng ACS sa section 1 campus ako nagaral bwahahah! tapos makita ng DIAC sa section 2 pala ako... bummer...

Anyhow, additional info lang para sa mga naguguluhan about ACS vs DIAC qualification evaluation... na, hindi namna talaga nakakapagpalinaw ng mga bagay bagay bwahahahah

icebreaker1928 · December 2011

Actually, hindi ata particular sa sectioning ng school ang ACS but rather course content.. yung sakin was mainly based lang sa subjects defined sa transcript pero assessed as comparable to bachelor degree naman ako with major in computing... hmmm, I'm assuming na kung comsci ka, dapat malakas hatak ng transcript mo... could it be na ung docs ang may kulang na nasubmit mo?
Hmmm, update lang dito sa statement ko na to... I came across one booklet na nidownload ko prior to my ACS skills assessment and it said:

7.1 RECOGNITION AND ASSESSMENT OF ACADEMIC QUALIFICATIONS
For assessment purposes, all qualifications held by an applicant will be considered.
Accredited and Recognised Degrees
"Accredited degree" means a degree awarded by a university to a student who successfully completed a program of study in ICT, which program is recognised after a documentation review and accreditation visit by the ACS.
Accreditation is valid for students enrolling until the end of the year specified in the list of Accredited University Courses for each course.
Unless otherwise stated, accreditation applies only to the Accredited University Courses conducted at the named campuses and locations.
"Recognized degree" means a degree normally awarded by a foreign educational institution, after successful completion of a program of study in ICT, which program has been –
 accredited by the responsible accrediting body in that country, which is a signatory to the Seoul Accord, or
 Evaluated by the ACS as being equivalent to a degree accredited by the ACS or a signatory of the Seoul Accord. These programs do not appear on the list of qualifications formally recognized under the Seoul Accord.
Through the Seoul Accord, the signatories recognize the equivalence of the preparation of graduates of computing education programs accredited by the signatories for professional computing practice at the entry level.
If an applicant's degree falls in one of the categories referred to above the applicant will be assessed as meeting qualification requirements.
If an applicant's degree does not fall in one of the categories referred to above, the ACS will use the current Australian Education International-National Office of Overseas Skills Recognition (AEI-NOOSR) Country Education Profiles (CEP) to establish the educational level of the qualifications held by the applicant. Qualifications other than those listed in the relevant CEP are assessed individually.
A Bachelor or higher degree course undertaken by an applicant granted advanced standing, credit(s) or exemption(s) will only be regarded as undertaken where, in the opinion of the ACS, credit(s) or exemption(s) are given for equivalent subjects (particularly in terms of IT content) taken at an equivalent educational level in an institution of equivalent academic standing.
No advanced standing, credit or exemption given on the basis of qualifications from overseas will be considered in relation to an Australian Graduate Diploma or higher degree qualifications.

Link:
http://www.acs.org.au/public/ska/docs/PASAGuidelinesforApplicants_July 2011 v4.0.pdf

So while ACS doesnt guarantee points para sa educational qualification mo, it did went with yung "official" process of checking with AEI-NOOSR thingy in determining whether your degree is equivalent to AU degree or not (not just checking ung content ng transcript mo). So in a way, I guess unless may sobrang mali lang sa ginawa ng ACS, or may nakitang mali si CO mo sa application mo, dun lang i-ooverwrite ng DIAC yung ruling ng ACS to award you with lesser points... Since I think DIAC will actually do the same process (AEI-NOOSR) to check your qualifications if ever...

On my case, mas nakaka-kaba to kasi:

1. My qualifications doesn't show kung anong campus ang nagawar ng degree ko (main campus ba or extension campus) since considered as 1 school lang yun

2. Yung main campus is section 1, while yung extension campus is section 2 (weird kasi isang school nga lang dapat sila)

soooo... baka akala ng ACS sa section 1 campus ako nagaral bwahahah! tapos makita ng DIAC sa section 2 pala ako... bummer...

Anyhow, additional info lang para sa mga naguguluhan about ACS vs DIAC qualification evaluation... na, hindi namna talaga nakakapagpalinaw ng mga bagay bagay bwahahahah

tnx sa info na to... but still ayoko sumugal ng 150K hehehe... waiting for your result mam...
we all hope and pray that it is positive so we can all lodge through this path

Goodluck po.

itchan · December 2011

agree!

On my end naman, try ko ipa-remark yung IELTS ko. I think pwede pang baguhin yung points na nike-claim ko for IELTS kung mabago yung score during the application time period (nakalagay ata sa 175 pdf na pwede magprovide ng english qualification until after 28 days ng CO allocation).

Also, andaming ICT occupations pala sa victoria for state sponsorship (BAT DI KO NAISIP TO NOOON?!?!?! WAAAHH) so, apply din ako ng sponsorship, yun nga lang hindi pwede iconvert na ang 175 to 176, so antayin ko na munang mareject si 175 if ever (WAG SANAAA) bago ako magpanibagong gastos sa 176 (WAAAAHHH)... Pero sana ma-CO allocate na ako bago pa mag July 2012 para magkaalaman na...

NEVER SAY NEVER! haha (at least until funds permit)

Kaya kung ako sayo bro, simulan mo na rin explore state sponsorship!

batman · December 2011

how will i know which group i belong?

batman · December 2011

sa group A group B na sinasabi.

harlan · December 2011

4 na company na napasukan ko nagsara na rin, puros statutory declaration lang binigay ko.. so far accepted naman nila lahat yun at credited as work experience...

hi @icebreaker1928, if closed na un company meron ka pa bang ipinasang docs. maliban don sa Statutory Declaration. Wla na din kc kming naitabing payslip, SSS contribution o khit na anong docs. pra suportahan yang Statutory Declaration na yan. thanks,

icebreaker1928 · December 2011

4 na company na napasukan ko nagsara na rin, puros statutory declaration lang binigay ko.. so far accepted naman nila lahat yun at credited as work experience...
hi @icebreaker1928, if closed na un company meron ka pa bang ipinasang docs. maliban don sa Statutory Declaration. Wla na din kc kming naitabing payslip, SSS contribution o khit na anong docs. pra suportahan yang Statutory Declaration na yan. thanks,

yes mam, marami akong supporting documents... before kasi, mahilig ako magcollect ng mga company id as souvenir... bali hindi ko sinusurender yung id ko, sinasabi ko na lang na nawala tapos bayad na lang ako, adik no hehehehe... hindi ko alam makakatulong pala yun...
tapos mga first month pa lang ako sa company, nanghihingi agad ako ng certificate of employment... wala lang, trip ko lang din, wala pa naman ako plan magmigrate nun, pero gusto ko lang humingi

...
yung mga SSS, ITR, naitago ko rin sa baul... kaya marami ako supporting docs sa mga previous company ko na nagsara...

harlan · December 2011

@icebreaker1928, galing nman! malaking problema pla sa amin yan kc standard na COE lng nsa amin un wlang detailed job description pero my letterhead nman, sayang nman kc 5 yrs. din nagwork don husband ko. Sana mkakuha kmi ng copy ng SSS & PAG-IBIG contribution. Pero problem di na kc sya active member simula ng ngpunta sya ng middle east. Nag-inquire aq sa SSS thru internet, gnyan cguro pag di na active iisnabin ka na, hehehe

burberry · December 2011

hi , pag nasa section 2 ba yung school automatic na 15 pts or depende sa assesing body. Nag assume kasi ako na i wil1 get 15 pts. :-))

tootzkie · December 2011

@burberry
Pag section 1 school, siguradong 15 pts. na. Kapag section 2 or 3, wala pang kasiguraduhan. 50/50 ang chance. Diac ang nagde-decide ng points not the assessing body.

Bryann · December 2011

@tootzkie
Ah so may pag-asa pala na maka-15 pts kahit section 2 or 3 ang school. Although para sure, I assumed na 10 pts lang makukuha ko.

LokiJr · December 2011

^ para po mas malinaw...

Pag Section 1, sigurado na ang 15 points.....pag section 2, kailangan lang ng supporting documents para sa 15 points...pag section 3, kailangan may supporting documents at grade requirement para maka 15 points

jhaine · January 2012

guys pano naman ang La Salle University Dasmarinas san sya pasok?

sipareko · January 2012

^ para po mas malinaw...

Pag Section 1, sigurado na ang 15 points.....pag section 2, kailangan lang ng supporting documents para sa 15 points...pag section 3, kailangan may supporting documents at grade requirement para maka 15 points

thanks @LokiJr
DIAC will not base ung points sa result ng ACS assessment, tama ba?

icebreaker1928 · January 2012

^ para po mas malinaw...

Pag Section 1, sigurado na ang 15 points.....pag section 2, kailangan lang ng supporting documents para sa 15 points...pag section 3, kailangan may supporting documents at grade requirement para maka 15 points
thanks @LokiJr
DIAC will not base ung points sa result ng ACS assessment, tama ba?

yup, maaring sabihin ng ACS na equivalent and comparable ang degree mo sa AU standards pero may disclaimer sila na nasa DIAC ang last decision kung comparable nga o hindi... so better assume na lang talaga na 10 pts sa mga category 2 and 3

sipareko · January 2012

^^ thanks @icebreaker1928
but pag nasa section 1 ang school, sure na agad ang 15pts.

Bryann · February 2012

Yup, swerte yun mga section 1 schools. 15 points na agad. Hirap kasi maghanap ng points, haha. Lalo na if 10 points ka lang sa IELTS. Okay sana if more than 8 years work exp, 15 points din. Ako sakto lang din sa 65 pts if ever. 10 pts lang expect ko sa Education.