Confusion in counting of Partner points (skilled)

Conboyboy · March 2023

Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

jinigirl · March 2023

@Conboyboy said:
Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

Both STSOL and MLTSSL are eligible for 190, so I think you can claim points for each other's skilled occupation.

Conboyboy · March 2023

@jinigirl said:

@Conboyboy said:
Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

Both STSOL and MLTSSL are eligible for 190, so I think you can claim points for each other's skilled occupation.

Meron kasi ganitong note:
"had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation"

So kung primary is STSOL, dapat sa STSOL din yung partner mo?
Kung MLTSSL, dapat dun din sa list ng MLTSSL yung partner?

whimpee · March 2023

My understanding with this is that both occupations that you are claiming points for should be eligible under the same Subclass. For example, if main applicant is applying for 190, the partner's skill should also be available for 190. Applicant cannot claim points if partner's occupation is only available under 491.

When you submit the EOI, you will be asked to enter the ANZSCO code of your partner's occupation and it will recognize if you are eligible to claim points for it. It will give you a summary of points at the end.

RheaMARN1171933 · March 2023

@Conboyboy said:
Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

Can you clarify, are you applying for a visa separately? Or just lodging your EOI. EOI lodgement us not a visa application.

Conboyboy · March 2023

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Conboyboy said:
Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

Can you clarify, are you applying for a visa separately? Or just lodging your EOI. EOI lodgement us not a visa application.

Hi Hi! We intend to lodge the EOI separately and we just want to make we are claiming the points accurately. We are trying to lodge separate EOI so that we have better chances of getting invited.

My wife is under STSOL (only allowed for 190 and not 189) and my nominated occupation is inside MLTSSL (allowed for 189 and 190).

So.... are we able to claim points for each other's EOI application?

RheaMARN1171933 · March 2023

@Conboyboy said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Conboyboy said:
Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

Can you clarify, are you applying for a visa separately? Or just lodging your EOI. EOI lodgement us not a visa application.

Hi Hi! We intend to lodge the EOI separately and we just want to make we are claiming the points accurately. We are trying to lodge separate EOI so that we have better chances of getting invited.

My wife is under STSOL (only allowed for 190 and not 189) and my nominated occupation is inside MLTSSL (allowed for 189 and 190).

So.... are we able to claim points for each other's EOI application?

Both can claim 10 points for 190 and 491. Just enter details on skillselect, it will calculate on its own.

sometimeshaveasked · December 2023

@Conboyboy said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Conboyboy said:
Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

Can you clarify, are you applying for a visa separately? Or just lodging your EOI. EOI lodgement us not a visa application.

Hi Hi! We intend to lodge the EOI separately and we just want to make we are claiming the points accurately. We are trying to lodge separate EOI so that we have better chances of getting invited.

My wife is under STSOL (only allowed for 190 and not 189) and my nominated occupation is inside MLTSSL (allowed for 189 and 190).

So.... are we able to claim points for each other's EOI application?

Hello @Conboyboy, would just like to ask if you claimed points for the partner? I have the same question. I am in MLTSSL and my partner is in STSOL, can I claim for 10 points? my partner has competent English as well. Would appreciate your response. Thank you so much!!

RheaMARN1171933 · December 2023

@sometimeshaveasked said:

@Conboyboy said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@Conboyboy said:
Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

Can you clarify, are you applying for a visa separately? Or just lodging your EOI. EOI lodgement us not a visa application.

Hi Hi! We intend to lodge the EOI separately and we just want to make we are claiming the points accurately. We are trying to lodge separate EOI so that we have better chances of getting invited.

My wife is under STSOL (only allowed for 190 and not 189) and my nominated occupation is inside MLTSSL (allowed for 189 and 190).

So.... are we able to claim points for each other's EOI application?

Hello @Conboyboy, would just like to ask if you claimed points for the partner? I have the same question. I am in MLTSSL and my partner is in STSOL, can I claim for 10 points? my partner has competent English as well. Would appreciate your response. Thank you so much!!

You could claim 10 for 190 and 491. 5 on 189.

Conboyboy · December 2023

Hi Sometimeshaveasked, i have replied your msg.

Auto claim yan basta i - fill up mo yung EOI mo and your partner accordingly. If I remember correctly, 5 pts lang na claim ko sa wife ko since di kami same stream ng STSOL/MLTSSL.

Ako - CPM - MLTSSL
wife - Specialist Manager NEC - STSOL

Good thing sa 190, plus 5 sa partner, plus 5 sa state. Goods na din naka 10 (total 90). HTH

bloombery2020 · June 4

Following this thread and before we proceed on the Vetassess, I would like to ask lang po that if I am an engineer and my wife is a real estate agent and as long as the partner skills are in the system, I can claim for points?

same as the image below,

mathilde9 · June 4

@bloombery2020 said:
Following this thread and before we proceed on the Vetassess, I would like to ask lang po that if I am an engineer and my wife is a real estate agent and as long as the partner skills are in the system, I can claim for points?

same as the image below,

You can claim points as long as you have relevant skills assessment document to provide as proof upon invitation. Otherwise, it's overclaiming of points.

bloombery2020 · June 4

Eto lang po kasi ung confusing sa immi website "had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation" yung word na " same skilled occupation list" po yung medyo confusing..which should I refer to kaya po to check ?

mathilde9 · June 4

@bloombery2020 said:
Eto lang po kasi ung confusing sa immi website "had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation" yung word na " same skilled occupation list" po yung medyo confusing..which should I refer to kaya po to check ?

"Same skilled occupation list" means you and your partner's nominated anzsco must be both eligible for the same visa subclass you are trying to apply for. Depende yan sa subclass na iaaply nyo. Mababasa mo dito sa eligibilty na kelangan ng skills assessment.

Eligibilty:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/skilled-nominated-190#Eligibility

SOL:
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list

Upon quick checking, Real Estate Reps are eligible only for 491 and other employer-sponsored subclasses. 190 and 189 not eligible.

whimpee · June 4

@bloombery2020 said:
Following this thread and before we proceed on the Vetassess, I would like to ask lang po that if I am an engineer and my wife is a real estate agent and as long as the partner skills are in the system, I can claim for points?

same as the image below,

You can only claim for points for 491 but not with the permanent visas.

bloombery2020 · June 4

Thank you po! @whimpee @mathilde9 Will take my chance po for Visa 491, sayang po yung 10 pts.

lisakent86 · June 5

@Conboyboy said:
Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

You and your wife can't claim partner points for each other because your occupations are on different skilled occupation lists (MLTSSL for you and STSOL for her). To claim partner points, both occupations need to be on the same list. Applying separately is still an option, but if you're unsure, getting advice from a migration agent is a good idea.

whimpee · June 6

@bloombery2020 said:
Thank you po! @whimpee @mathilde9 Will take my chance po for Visa 491, sayang po yung 10 pts.

You can still submit EOI for 189/190 even without partner points, unless hindi aabot sa minimum pag wala.

bloombery2020 · June 17

@whimpee said:

@bloombery2020 said:
Thank you po! @whimpee @mathilde9 Will take my chance po for Visa 491, sayang po yung 10 pts.

You can still submit EOI for 189/190 even without partner points, unless hindi aabot sa minimum pag wala.

Currently po submittied EOI and with 80 pts for Visa 189. Waiting since August 2023. Here is the breakdown of pts:

bloombery2020 · June 17

@lisakent86 said:

@Conboyboy said:
Any members with the same dilemma?

I am quite confused on the wording regarding spouse points/ partner skills.

My wife's occupation is listed in Short term skilled (STSOL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

My occupation is listed in Medium and Long term (MLTLSSL). Positive skills assessment obtained. Competent english

Since we are applying separately for visa (to get more chances). Both of us are applying for visa 190 (as wife is not under 189 stream)

Can the short term skilled STSOL wife claim for points from husband who is in the MLTSSL? And vice versa?

The wording in the immi says must be:

“had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation”

I am confused with the technicality of this clause.

Can anyone provide guidance please.

You and your wife can't claim partner points for each other because your occupations are on different skilled occupation lists (MLTSSL for you and STSOL for her). To claim partner points, both occupations need to be on the same list. Applying separately is still an option, but if you're unsure, getting advice from a migration agent is a good idea.

Thank you po. Thinking of consulting to the DHA nga po if ever.

Ozdrims · June 17

For info here lang din:
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
How can I claim 5 points for partner skills assessment for Subclass 189, 190 and 491 visa?
Updated 2 weeks ago
There are maximum 10 points available for partner skills.

If you have a partner who is not an Australian Citizen or permanent resident, then you can obtain the following points for partner skills:

5 points if your partner has minimum Competent English
an additional 5 points if your partner has a skill assessment in an occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list (MLTSSL, STSOL or ROL) as your nominated skilled occupation
There seems to be some confusion around the criteria for the 5 points for partner skill assessment above.

Here is a clear answer, assume "You" is the primary applicant:

If you are applying for 491 State Sponsored visa, your partner can be on any list - MLTSSL, STSOL or ROL
If you are applying for 190 visa, your partner has to be either on MLTSSL or STSOL
If you are applying for 189 visa or 491 Family Sponsored visa, your partner has to be on MLTSSL
You can check Skilled Occupation List here.

Source: Migration (LIN 19/051: Specification of Occupations and Assessing Authorities) Instrument 2019

How do you know it works ?

When you are creating an EOI in SkillSelect and claiming points for partner skills, you will automatically see partner points calculated and added to your EOI score, using the above mentioned logic.

You can check out the Skilled Occupation List to see what list your occupation and your partner's occupation is on.

Source:
https://smartvisaguide.com/frequently-asked-questions/partner-skill-assessment-points-criteria-189-190-491-visa